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How much prostitutes earn revealed in largest study of its kind into the UK's sex workers

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Offline Paris69

The average figure is like the average price of a house.. There is a huge disparity... A pointless figure tbh.

WG earnings will include the £20 street girl and the 'high roller WG who charges £££££
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Have I skim read that right

They refer to it being poorly paid, but from what I read I've just seen the figures of 27k and 20k and often less than 10 hrs per week to get to that figure.

Glad the education industry, and that's what it is now lets not kid ourselves, is using its time so effectively with such reports.

I'd wager the average SP who works anything resembling a working week earns far more than that per year.

Offline Spacecowb0y

Yeah but come on, look what they do to earn (for argument sake £50k).

Online lewisjones23

Yeah but come on, look what they do to earn (for argument sake £50k).

they could always go get a proper job and earn that sort of money ..... oh hang on  :music: :hi:

Offline Spacecowb0y

That would require a 40 hour week and good fortune or education.
Easier to hire out what God gave them I guess.

Offline Will2k

Not seeing tax paid, probably zero, and length working and what they may have moved on to

Offline Belly_Fluff

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The Internet Makes Life Better and Safer for Sex Workers. Obviously.
A large new study out of the U.K. proves it.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Impossible to say how much pro$$ies earn, there are so many factors to consider such as does she work from home or rent a flat for business.
I used to have a regular who worked from home and the flat was paid for out of benefits, she only advertised on Adultwork so whatever she took was profit, £50 K a year was more than possible, all tax free.  :hi:

Offline Jimmyredcab

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A large new study out of the U.K. proves it.

Not really, Peter Sutcliffe would now use the internet to find his victims instead of kerb crawling.  :thumbsdown:

Offline myothernameis

Girl I used to see in the Glasgow parlours in the mid 80's; reckon she could earn around £20,000, and she was a very popular girl

If she was working now, reckon she could earn in excess of £40,000+

Offline itk

Not really, Peter Sutcliffe would now use the internet to find his victims instead of kerb crawling.  :thumbsdown:

And less likely to be seen, easier to turn up at an address rather than crawl the RLD.

Offline itk

A WG who I saw a few years back said she made in excess of £50000 each year, that needed to pay for the rent of the flat but that was it. Chances are though they blitz it all on holidays and lavish items without thinking their career isn’t a long one.

Offline Paris69

Just a quick calculation based on a good WG who is professional, and doing it as her job.

WG charging £150ph and working four days pw - seeing 4 clients a day, over a 40 week year.

150x4x4x40 + £96k per year..

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Offline NIK

Most surveys are bollocks as they rely on people telling the truth.
Surveys about what people earn - unless it can be independetly verfied - are total bollocks.
Surveys about paid sex are total bollocks.
Put the two together and you have total total bollocks.  :D

Complete waste of time, money and effort. They will never accurately know how many prossies there are or how many men pay for sex. What about someone who has only prossied a coupleof times a year? Does she count?  I haven't paid for sex since August? Do I count? If I was asked today if I pay for sex I would have to say no. The same if I was asked three months ago. If I was asked three months hence the answer may be different. Although I doubt it!   :D Apart from blokes I have met through punting hardly any other males I know have told me they have paid for sex. A couple of mates in the dim and distant past. I still know these pair and neither as far as I am aware has punted for over 25 years. Both reckon it's a waste of money rather than abstaining for moral reasons. Do they count?

These 'surveys' can never be more than probably wildly inaccurate estimates. However, if anything, like with most things - population, illegal immigrants, crime figures - the number of prossies and punters will most likely be higher than those published. With regard to earnings this will be even harder to estimate. Yes a good popular, organised prossy can easily earn £50,000+ a year. However many are not as busy as we often think and are thoroughly disorgnaised.
I have hardly ever failed to get an appointment because someone was too busy. Whilst a parlour girl might be lucky to clear £200 a day, particularly if there are numerous girls there and few punters. She will need 4- 5 clients per day, which doesn't sound many, but if she is competing with 3/4 other girls isn't always achieveable. The majority also don't work every day so they are probably on average ish earnings £20 - £30k. It is of course also highly unreliable. Many times I have been in parlours with 3, 34 or even 5 girls sitting around waiting.

As I say probably very few work every day. They don't want to get a sore fanny!  :D
« Last Edit: January 27, 2018, 10:53:26 am by NIK »

Offline S.X. MacHine

Just a quick calculation based on a good WG who is professional, and doing it as her job.

WG charging £150ph and working four days pw - seeing 4 clients a day, over a 40 week year.

150x4x4x40 + £96k per year..

Based on my personal observations, the WGs on £150 per hour are likely to be a lot less busier than the ones on £120.
Secondly, I suspect the majority of punts are for half hours only. Thirdly, there is a lot of 'down time' involved between punts, I suspect, so four a day may be a bit on the high side.. As with any business activity, there will be good periods and also quieter times.
Maybe there is a 'super WG' somewhere on £96k, but I doubt it represents the majority.

Offline Cum_again

And girls have to pay for the flat/hotel too.

Having said that, I once visited a girl who was using it to pay to put her two kids through private school and pay the mortgage on a three bedroom semi in the south east...

So, I can’t imagne she was doing that on £27k....

Her reviews on here are dreadful too...  sounds like you can make it pay if you want too...

Offline Fredbone

I like the comment “total bollock” why would they tell the truth. Plus what is salary - money paid by clients or profit (i.e. less all costs, rent, payment to agents.......).

The stated average is £400 per week or three / four punt per week, so most are very part time or not telling the truth - I know which I are voting for.

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Thinking about this but from a slightly different angle, for the average parlour worker, it isn't really the "good earner" that it once was. When I started punting it was £10 on the door and a menu system of charging in the room normally from £25-£60. Considering £70 was quite a chunk of my wages in those days, early 80's, Today the parlour charges are similar or even less, but I could earn as much in a day as I did in a week back then. With minimum wage, higher personal tax allowances, tax credits etc etc, maybe a legit job and way of life would seem more appealing, no stress of leading a double life, fear of being outed etc. I've known parlour girls who on quiet days have been lucky to break even, when they've paid there travelling expenses and "tip" to the receptionist etc.
When you work out potential earnings of £/hr x clients x days worked etc, don't forget a lot aren't the best organised, if they don't find the job easy they might just earn x amount to cover their costs and call it a day. When you see on a profile "fully booked today" it looks better than "I can't be arsed working today"

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On a slightly different subject of Chat Girls, or if you want to be frank "telephone prostitutes" some of the girls on the TV Channels like Babestation, Studio etc are reportedly earning up to £100000 per year and they don't have intimate one to one contact, nice little earner.
It is a very cold and depressing way to relieve oneself and can be as costly as seeing a girl in the flesh, I know some of the TV girls do Escort, AG on BS offers "services" in Wales, AR on S also in East London, others also but have no info.
But back to earnings, I would estimate that most working girls are aiming to earn between £300-£500  per week as a minimum, those that are established probably fit this framework if not exceed.

Offline Brokenshed

Regardless of how much they earn, most i have seen are clueless about money. They almost always waste it on clothes, shoes, bags, cars, holidays. Of the women ive seen, only 2 have had a mortgage
 Its sad to see some 45 year old whose been whoring for 15 odd years, living in private rented accomadation.
In a country of financially illiterate, whores rate the highest.
I went off one regular, cos i started feelng sorry for her. Constantly in debt, and constantly wasting her earnings. She opened her legs, or mouth, turned cum into money, and money into shit. Poor cow.

Offline S.X. MacHine

Regardless of how much they earn, most i have seen are clueless about money. They almost always waste it on clothes, shoes, bags, cars, holidays. Of the women ive seen, only 2 have had a mortgage
 Its sad to see some 45 year old whose been whoring for 15 odd years, living in private rented accomadation.
In a country of financially illiterate, whores rate the highest.
I went off one regular, cos i started feelng sorry for her. Constantly in debt, and constantly wasting her earnings. She opened her legs, or mouth, turned cum into money, and money into shit. Poor cow.

Oh, the unintended irony of it!
Whores 'waste it' on clothes, shoes etc, whereas you spend it on hiring whores. Delicious. What is the return on your wise invesment? At least they have shoes at the end of it; all you might have is the clap!

Offline adamza

Regardless of how much they earn, most i have seen are clueless about money. They almost always waste it on clothes, shoes, bags, cars, holidays. Of the women ive seen, only 2 have had a mortgage
 Its sad to see some 45 year old whose been whoring for 15 odd years, living in private rented accomadation.
In a country of financially illiterate, whores rate the highest.
I went off one regular, cos i started feelng sorry for her. Constantly in debt, and constantly wasting her earnings. She opened her legs, or mouth, turned cum into money, and money into shit. Poor cow.

Unless you ask every girl you see whether they have a mortgage (which I would find bizarre) and they all reply truthfully, I feel like that figure of 2 might be slightly off

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From my experience the best ones will work hard for a few years and probably will earn close to or over 100k a year. If they have any sense they start to reduce their work as they have saved enough. The ones that can't manage money or have a drug addiction will need to keep getting fucked 40+ times a week past 50 years old.

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Am always surprised how often punters overestimate the earnings of the girls, the truth is there are way more girls wanting to sell sex, than punters wishing to buy, very few of the girls manage to accumulate regulars, without regulars, you are almost better off working in a min wage job. The majority of girls throw in the towel, cos there just isn't the money in it. I know a well reviewed girl, charging lowish rates, and some days has only one 30 minute booking, yes she has her good days, but 4 punters at 150 a shot, happens once a blue moon, not every day.

Offline OakTree

Regardless of how much they earn, most i have seen are clueless about money. They almost always waste it on clothes, shoes, bags, cars, holidays. Of the women ive seen, only 2 have had a mortgage
 Its sad to see some 45 year old whose been whoring for 15 odd years, living in private rented accomadation.
In a country of financially illiterate, whores rate the highest.
I went off one regular, cos i started feelng sorry for her. Constantly in debt, and constantly wasting her earnings. She opened her legs, or mouth, turned cum into money, and money into shit. Poor cow.

Oh, the unintended irony of it!
Whores 'waste it' on clothes, shoes etc, whereas you spend it on hiring whores. Delicious. What is the return on your wise invesment? At least they have shoes at the end of it; all you might have is the clap!


Haha that’s very good....The truth of it is, I myself could of paid outright for a second home by now if I hadn’t frittered it away. That said, I don’t need a second home.  :)

Offline JonasG

Am always surprised how often punters overestimate the earnings of the girls, the truth is there are way more girls wanting to sell sex, than punters wishing to buy, very few of the girls manage to accumulate regulars, without regulars, you are almost better off working in a min wage job. The majority of girls throw in the towel, cos there just isn't the money in it. I know a well reviewed girl, charging lowish rates, and some days has only one 30 minute booking, yes she has her good days, but 4 punters at 150 a shot, happens once a blue moon, not every day.

Yeah reading the saafe forum you can tell most of them are bored stiff waiting by the phone.

Offline NigelF

Oh, the unintended irony of it!
Whores 'waste it' on clothes, shoes etc, whereas you spend it on hiring whores. Delicious. What is the return on your wise invesment? At least they have shoes at the end of it; all you might have is the clap!

I think his point is that they waste their money before they even own the important things such as a house. He's not saying he doesn't "waste" his money but he is saying he does it after he's bought his house, car etc.

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My guess would be above £50k as a minimum. If you take into consideration what a stripper would earn in a place like the Axe then a WG would surely earn more. 6-10 dances at and average of £30 (as th night goes on, more likely to be upstairs) = £300. 2 x £1 in the jar dances average of £50 = £100. Fees to the Axe? Maybe £100???

So on a standard Thursday-Saturday night a stripper is earning £300 a night, so £900 over a weekend and that's in the Axe!

These are completely made up figures but I wouldn't be surprised if they are pretty close to the truth.

WG's doing 3 punts a day for 4 days a week will be earning £1200 as a minimum

Offline Brokenshed

Unless you ask every girl you see whether they have a mortgage (which I would find bizarre) and they all reply truthfully, I feel like that figure of 2 might be slightly off
Don't tell me, you never get asked what your job is.
I always say estate agent. Amazing the amount a girl will blabber on about her rent, neighbours, landlord, the council, mortgages. It truly becomes a "Girlfriend experience", when the snogging, licking, sucking and fucking is punctuated by chat about housing between bouts.

Offline Fredbone

My answer in I work in IT, that ends the conversation.

Offline Cunning Punt

Am always surprised how often punters overestimate the earnings of the girls, the truth is there are way more girls wanting to sell sex, than punters wishing to buy, very few of the girls manage to accumulate regulars, without regulars, you are almost better off working in a min wage job. The majority of girls throw in the towel, cos there just isn't the money in it. I know a well reviewed girl, charging lowish rates, and some days has only one 30 minute booking, yes she has her good days, but 4 punters at 150 a shot, happens once a blue moon, not every day.

Better off working minimum wage? Hardly.  :rolleyes:

There are a lot of escorts but there are also a lot of punters and I would guess that no more than about 20% of SPs working in the UK are any good.

Therefore, there is always demand for escorts who provide a good service at a reasonable rate, particularly in 'deserts' - and those who do stand to make a lot of money, as has been said. They don't even have to be all that attractive.

If they have a dusty phone, then they are either providing a poor service or charging too much, or, more often than not, both.

£150ph is a very high rate and no wonder a lot of the SPs charging that rate don't get much custom.

« Last Edit: February 05, 2018, 09:42:14 pm by Cunning Punt »

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Better off working minimum wage? Hardly.  :rolleyes:

There are a lot of escorts but there are also a lot of punters and I would guess that no more than about 20% of SPs working in the UK are any good.

Therefore, there is always demand for escorts who provide a good service at a reasonable rate, particularly in 'deserts' - and those who do stand to make a lot of money, as has been said. They don't even have to be all that attractive.

If they have a dusty phone, then they are either providing a poor service or charging too much, or, more often than not, both.

£150ph is a very high rate and no wonder a lot of the SPs charging that rate don't get much custom.
I charge that rate and I don't get much custom, in fact I hardly get any. Most here will say I charge too much, but reducing my rates to below average for outcalls didn't work for me either.
I make much more money in my very low paying full-time job per month than I do as an escort.

Offline Cunning Punt

I charge that rate and I don't get much custom, in fact I hardly get any. Most here will say I charge too much, but reducing my rates to below average for outcalls didn't work for me either.
I make much more money in my very low paying full-time job per month than I do as an escort.

Your big problem is you don't offer regular incalls, not helped by the fact your rates have been quite high - as has been pointed out to you on UKE.

If you offered regular incalls, reduced your hourly rate to max £120ph, offered a 30mins option and maintained a good level of service, I think you would get a decent amount of custom.

You may not want to do that and that's your choice but it isn't surprising you don't much custom; girls who do all the above do quite well.


Offline NigelF

I charge that rate and I don't get much custom, in fact I hardly get any. Most here will say I charge too much, but reducing my rates to below average for outcalls didn't work for me either.
I make much more money in my very low paying full-time job per month than I do as an escort.

I agree with Cunning Punt (post above). Outcalls is just way too limited, especially when you also take into account the various agencies who offer outcalls in addition to girls on AW (many of whom also do incalls).

High rate (or at least above average), outcall only, over 30s only, only available limited and variable hours (due to your full time job) and fairly limited service range/likes list - all means that you that you can't really expect much custom. I'd have thought being based in London might mitigate some of that but on the flip-side there is a lot of choice for punters in London so it'll be hard for you to stand out.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2018, 10:28:07 pm by NigelF »

Offline DOUGLAS56

I charge that rate and I don't get much custom, in fact I hardly get any. Most here will say I charge too much, but reducing my rates to below average for outcalls didn't work for me either.
I make much more money in my very low paying full-time job per month than I do as an escort.

Varied time in my opinion is a killer.  In business you have to be predictable and customers know that on this so so days and time I am always available.


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I agree with Cunning Punt (post above). Outcalls is just way too limited, especially when you also take into account the various agencies who offer outcalls in addition to girls on AW (many of whom also do incalls).

High rate (or at least above average), outcall only, over 30s only, only available limited and variable hours (due to your full time job) and fairly limited service range/likes list - all means that you that you can't really expect much custom. I'd have thought being based in London might mitigate some of that but on the flip-side there is a lot of choice for punters in London so it'll be hard for you to stand out.
I've actually tried most of those suggestions and they don't work for me. I've tried incalls and I've tried £120. I've even lowered my outcall rate to £120, and I've had more options in my list.
I see your point about the variable hours.

Offline NigelF

Varied time in my opinion is a killer.  In business you have to be predictable and customers know that on this so so days and time I am always available.

+1

To help mitigate the varied timings, if the WG puts up a timetable of when they'll be available (during the current week) it's much more likely to get me to pick up the phone. It sounds weird but honestly sometimes I really can't be arsed and like to know there's good chance I'll be able to get a booking before I even try to make one.

Offline DOUGLAS56

+1

To help mitigate the varied timings, if the WG puts up a timetable of when they'll be available (during the current week) it's much more likely to get me to pick up the phone. It sounds weird but honestly sometimes I really can't be arsed and like to know there's good chance I'll be able to get a booking before I even try to make one.

I concur on the timetable and I dont think its weird I like to know I am guaranteed a booking too and not having to scramble for a plan B or C.

Offline Cunning Punt

I've actually tried most of those suggestions and they don't work for me. I've tried incalls and I've tried £120. I've even lowered my outcall rate to £120, and I've had more options in my list.
I see your point about the variable hours.

Yes, but you seem to offer incalls sporadically and while I don't look at your profile that regularly, I've noticed your rates have varied between £140-£170. Most potential clients would need to add at least £60 to that for a hotel room as they can't host at their place, which makes a punt with you unaffordable for most punters.

As has been stated, your variable hours and rates don't help you. To make things work, you need to offer incalls, a reasonable price that you stick and similar hours for a sustained period of time, week after week, so potential clients can be certain of your MO and plan ahead.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2018, 09:07:34 pm by Cunning Punt »

Offline Rick2468

My guess would be above £50k as a minimum. If you take into consideration what a stripper would earn in a place like the Axe then a WG would surely earn more. 6-10 dances at and average of £30 (as th night goes on, more likely to be upstairs) = £300. 2 x £1 in the jar dances average of £50 = £100. Fees to the Axe? Maybe £100???

So on a standard Thursday-Saturday night a stripper is earning £300 a night, so £900 over a weekend and that's in the Axe!

These are completely made up figures but I wouldn't be surprised if they are pretty close to the truth.

WG's doing 3 punts a day for 4 days a week will be earning £1200 as a minimum

About 10 years ago I used to be friends with the porn star Victoria Brown. (I was hoping I would get to meet some of her mates on nights out but never happened). She worked at a Strip Club, I think in Reading, and used to bring in £1,000s each night. I recall a story about a guy who just kept coming back because he was addicted to her and he spent £4,000 in one night. Far too much and not even any sex.

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Any joy a strip club gave you becomes academic after you get into punting lol.


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Yes, but you seem to offer incalls sporadically and while I don't look at your profile that regularly, I've noticed your rates have varied between £140-£170. Most potential clients would need to add at least £60 to that for a hotel room as they can't host at their place, which makes a punt with you unaffordable for most punters.

As has been stated, your variable hours and rates don't help you. To make things work, you need to offer incalls, a reasonable price that you stick and similar hours for a sustained period of time, week after week, so potential clients can be certain of your MO and plan ahead.
I used to get two outcalls per week. Now I'm lucky if I get one a month. Thanks for the tips though. I'll have to try to sort something out re: regular incalls...hard because of my job.
Cheers.
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Offline Brokenshed

I used to get two outcalls per week. Now I'm lucky if I get one a month. Thanks for the tips though. I'll have to try to sort something out re: regular incalls...hard because of my job.
Cheers.
£1 in the glass for a strip is ok.
But £20 for a 3 minute private dance?
Or £40 for a "special dance" where you can touch the dancer is pretty pointless, if you can cam pay for a full service for £50 for 20 minutes.

Offline thundercrackerxx

Not really, Peter Sutcliffe would now use the internet to find his victims instead of kerb crawling.  :thumbsdown:

And probably be quickly tracked down via either internet or phone records from contacting her to arrange the meet.

Offline NigelF

And probably be quickly tracked down via either internet or phone records from contacting her to arrange the meet.

It's really not that hard to cover your tracks on the internet if you know what your doing. Same with the phone. A PAYG SIM (bought in cash) with top ups in cash should more than suffice for normal use although if you were being hunted for murder you'd need to keep switching things up and do a bit more pre-planning on the phone front but it wouldn't be too hard.

Offline tazz

Think this depends widely on how well the escort is reviewed. Met plenty in london who make £3 to 5 k a week as they have great reviews. I can imagine others who offer a poor service or only work part time dont make anywhere near that.

Offline OutForJustice80

I've actually tried most of those suggestions and they don't work for me. I've tried incalls and I've tried £120. I've even lowered my outcall rate to £120, and I've had more options in my list.
I see your point about the variable hours.
Not to put too fine a point on it but there are WGs who I expect to have an orderly queue forming for their services and there those who I expect to have a... more niche appeal. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but there is a template to what is “conventionally attractive” and you don’t exactly fit that mould.

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Met plenty in london who make £3 to 5 k a week as they have great reviews.

Very few will be earning anywhere near that kind of money  :rolleyes:

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Not to put too fine a point on it but there are WGs who I expect to have an orderly queue forming for their services and there those who I expect to have a... more niche appeal. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but there is a template to what is “conventionally attractive” and you don’t exactly fit that mould.
In other words, you think I'm ugly. No need to try to be diplomatic.
I don't think I'm ugly. Obviously I won't be everyone's type, obviously some guys don't go for black women. There are still lots of guys who do. I only seek one or two outcalls per week. That should be easy in London but for some reason it's not. In my first year I was getting regular bookings. I was getting lots of enquiries and I even turned down lots of guys because I didn't want to see more than one person in a day. Now I wish I had bloody accepted those bookings.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2018, 04:59:34 pm by Rochelle »