members with zero reviews who claim experience.

[freeze44]

People are perfectly free to act like a cunt and others are free to call them out.

As for being called out on reviews, it happens to all of us. We review to help other punters, not for the thanks we get, which is rare. You really do have to be able to take it IMO. Reviewing to be ‘liked’ is a bit pointless. It’s maybe not ‘fair’ but it does weed out some overly sensitive fluffies. It’s the way the board is kept clean, unlike other boards that are concerned ‘what prossies might think’ or the reviewer loving his own ego and story-telling abilities.

So if you get called out on your review, maybe remember this. If you’re genuine it does show eventually. Just have the balls to see it through. Stand up for yourself, and stick to facts.

Exactly this. Think some find it difficult to understand. You give, you get and then get what here for...top punts! Quid pro quo.

People also learn from being called out. Before coming to UKP most are familiar with AW and prossie-type reviews: that style is slanted and not a particularly critically honest style of writing. Experience mostly shows that trying to help such newcomers ‘gently’ doesn’t work very well, although admittedly there has been a phase when some have been too rough on newcomers. Just try not to annoy everyone with endless, never-ending requests for info or shouting your mouth off without anything to back it up.

It’s not against the ‘rules’: just bad manners if you can’t respect the ethos of the board. 

Exactly this...quid pro quo

[arrons222]

What are ‘the type of girls not reviewed on this site’?

The reviews seem to cover a particular section of the market I.e. Budget to moderately priced SPs, who are therefore more likely to see a higher volume of clients. I am by no means making a value judgement about them or the punters who see them. It's simply that, given the larger number of guys that see them, its easier to write a review about them without identifying yourself. They also seem more willing to accept the review culture than some other SPs.
I have absolutely no scruples in posting a damning review of an SP who clearly and substantially is a con artist, but I see no benefit in giving a detailed analysis of a positive booking with someone I respect and hope to see again without her thinking for the entire 4 hour booking that I'm that prick that went into a grotesque level of detail about the size of her labia.

[HughLoad]

The reviews seem to cover a particular section of the market I.e. Budget to moderately priced SPs, who are therefore more likely to see a higher volume of clients. I am by no means making a value judgement about them or the punters who see them. It's simply that, given the larger number of guys that see them, its easier to write a review about them without identifying yourself. They also seem more willing to accept the review culture than some other SPs.
I have absolutely no scruples in posting a damning review of an SP who clearly and substantially is a con artist, but I see no benefit in giving a detailed analysis of a positive booking with someone I respect and hope to see again without her thinking for the entire 4 hour booking that I'm that prick that went into a grotesque level of detail about the size of her labia.

good post!

[Moby Dick]

Please tell me more about her beef curtains 

The reviews seem to cover a particular section of the market I.e. Budget to moderately priced SPs, who are therefore more likely to see a higher volume of clients. I am by no means making a value judgement about them or the punters who see them. It's simply that, given the larger number of guys that see them, its easier to write a review about them without identifying yourself. They also seem more willing to accept the review culture than some other SPs.
I have absolutely no scruples in posting a damning review of an SP who clearly and substantially is a con artist, but I see no benefit in giving a detailed analysis of a positive booking with someone I respect and hope to see again without her thinking for the entire 4 hour booking that I'm that prick that went into a grotesque level of detail about the size of her labia.

[The Film Director]

The reviews seem to cover a particular section of the market I.e. Budget to moderately priced SPs, who are therefore more likely to see a higher volume of clients. I am by no means making a value judgement about them or the punters who see them. It's simply that, given the larger number of guys that see them, its easier to write a review about them without identifying yourself. They also seem more willing to accept the review culture than some other SPs.
I have absolutely no scruples in posting a damning review of an SP who clearly and substantially is a con artist, but I see no benefit in giving a detailed analysis of a positive booking with someone I respect and hope to see again without her thinking for the entire 4 hour booking that I'm that prick that went into a grotesque level of detail about the size of her labia.

No need to go into 'grotesque levels of detail' about anything just describe the services you got, how you rated them and why (at a level of detail you're comfortable with).  Simples 

[Marmalade]

No need to go into 'grotesque levels of detail' about anything just describe the services you got, how you rated them and why (at a level of detail you're comfortable with).  Simples 

+1

It’s a danger we all face. Keeping it simple as FD has just suggested helps. And leaving it say a week or even two so that it could be anybody. You don’t need to include details of different positions and all the soft porn some characters write. Time spent, how much, briefly which services, accuracy of profile to what you got, decency of venue. Whether she’s fat/thin and approx age (honestly not flatteringly) and some sort of link. You won’t have been the only punter no matter how infrequent she sees (or tells you she sees) other punters. So your identity is not disclosed. If you are still worried, less is more as long as the basics are there.

But I think I’ve said all I want to on this thread. People can take the hint or not.

[piotrskut]

Please tell me more about her beef curtains 

will never be able to look at Aunt Bessie in the same way again   

[Moby Dick]

Not good enough - banned for being a troll

I guess I will never find out why his pro$$ie is better than the rest we see. I wonder if she had gold plated her flaps.

good post!

[Rome66]

Been at this m'larky for 30 odd years , dodging between phoneboxes trying not to look dodgy lol. Signed up here recently and dared to try my 1st post/review. No advice forum or direction and yes it  crashed and burned.  Out came the playgound bosses to try and shoot me down, "shitstirrer" blah blah...all because they totally misread where I had been, then the tail enders even tried to bring me down because I texted while driving....jeez. so I kinda empathise with those on here who  are wary of entering the fray. But it is a good laugh all the same.

And dont mention that im parked in a loading zone currently.   

[piotrskut]

You don't get the point, if he is not punting what is he doing on this site?
If he is punting why is he not doing reviews?
Or is he just a leech taking and not giving?

lots of people don't punt all the time, and as ive said loads of times i punt when i can, when money/time and anxiety let me.  I've also done a review of the last time I punted, so im not leeching. Ive started one thread about asking for a recommendation for a lapdance/fuck combo but posters got the wrong end of the stick of what i was asking, so I gave up and let it die.  i've also replied to others asking for information as im trying to contribute whatever way i can.  thought that was the general idea. i haven't acted on any info i've got here cos of my situation so if anything i've given more than i've taken.  now would you lads like to put down the pitchforks?

[snaitram99]

I think some are a bit too quick to jump on new members re posting reviews. Give people a chance to find their way around. My first review was 8 mths after joining and although made some posts before that, lurked for about 3 mths first.

[Moby Dick]

That's fine, it's when members have been here for years, make comments about who they have seen but don't review anyone. Just trying to point out that their credibility in some case is dubious, and they would be trusted more if they did a review.

I think some are a bit too quick to jump on new members re posting reviews. Give people a chance to find their way around. My first review was 8 mths after joining and although made some posts before that, lurked for about 3 mths first.

[freeze44]

That's fine, it's when members have been here for years, make comments about who they have seen but don't review anyone. Just trying to point out that their credibility in some case is dubious, and they would be trusted more if they did a review.

Good point and an interesting thread. As been said we were all new once and my experience has been good.

I get that some feel there some stick given out although it's also annoying when those who have not contributed ask others to do all the work for them and think the comments given to these are both to get them to do some work themselves and also show others how this site works.

Without the challenge and need to weed out pimps/fakes/fluffies this site would not be half as helpful. And is fucking hilarious at times to! 

[Steely Dan]

Signed up here recently and dared to try my 1st post/review. No advice forum or direction and yes it  crashed and burned. 

What do you mean no advice?
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[Steely Dan]

seems to me the admins weed out the trolls reasonably quickly so if you feel someone is leeching just ignore them instead of wading in - that person who you think is a leech now maybe won't bother posting because they got turned on by people who feel they are more experienced/better placed to comment.

Don't agree.

It is Admin, not 'admins'.  One hard working guy.  How can this be? He relies a great deal on self moderation.  And it works.  So in fact it is everyones duty to call out the leeches, pimps, fan boys and liars.  Many go away when called out.  This is good.  The level of moderation is very low - so this allows us to post all sorts.

If anyone is too delicate to take a few pixels, I am happy if they fuck off.  We get the 'be nicer to newbies, or UKP wont grow' idea every few years.  But we are the same as always.  And UKP keeps growing.  (And as others have pointed out, we are quite nice really - just the one or two call-outs per week are usually quite memorable and amusing.  There are far more 'thank you for your reviews' s than there are 'you sound like a pimp' posted.)

[Rome66]

 Cheers an excellent link and very helpful.   
I should have done the lurking technique for several weeks or months and not been so keen to jump right in , then I would probably have picked up more pointers or the link.

[Londonpunter30]

How about people like this wanker

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=38305

Three years on the forum, has clearly punted and yet not offered anything back to the forum

[last_days_of_logan]

How about people like this wanker

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=38305

Three years on the forum, has clearly punted and yet not offered anything back to the forum

spot on

[PLeisure]

Here are some further examples of what this thread is rallying against.

This member joined end of December 2015. Probably a low level punter, there's just four posts to his name so far. Nothing wrong with that; it may be that he's following marmalade's advice and lurking quietly due to minimal contributions. All good so far.
Yesterday, he posts a standard thread topic at 2.16pm.
At 2.23pm, he then posts a review, scant with detail... no idea of fee paid, time spent, just a comment on her oral technique: "jesus christ, she was insane. Probably the best blowjob from a punt i've ever had."

How is this useful? 
It's telling us next to nothing. And yet, off the back of this hastily written review - possibly to mitigate any criticism of leaching for info - he's now requesting for more SPs with good oral skills.
He's since gone quiet after LLP put him right as to how the forum works.

And is probably following this thread, in which the OP, another leach who joined in June 2015, keeps urging the forum for recommendations. He even admits that he's had a great experience with one WG, and ignores subsequent posts asking for a review.

Yes, the review counts are low - and that always draws attention. More so if members have been here for several years now. But the reviews seem to be strategic... either to continue access to the site for another 30-90 days, or to deflect from criticisms of leaching.

But, seriously... one review. In three years? And then requests for intel.
I don't think so 

[Punchdrunk]

Lots of leeches on here who don't offer anything, this idiot being a prime example of the kind more than happy to take advantage of the people who get out there and share.



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[Londonpunter30]

How about people like this wanker

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=38305

Three years on the forum, has clearly punted and yet not offered anything back to the forum

And now banned for White knighting

[jbpunts74]

Great discussion, lots of intelligent points made eloquently, plus the usual spear-chucking and chest-prodding as the testosterone overflows once more on UKP.

I've contributed further up this thread, explaining why I'm still a zero-reviewer. Right at this moment I'm recovering from an op, so I reckon I'll be raring to go in about a month. In the meantime I browse UKP, add anything which might be of value to the odd thread, and most of all look for comments and reviews about girls from my immediate area (Wakey / Barnsley).

Just an average punter, happy to have found a resource, and grateful to the Admin for setting it up, as well as to (most of) the quasi-admins who help to police this place voluntarily.

If I had one wish, it would be that the veteran posters are just a *little* nicer and more welcoming to first-time posters, without getting the suspicious hat on so quickly. This doesn't always happen, but sometimes I do read a post from a newbie who gets jumped on (usually something around 'use the fucking search, that's what it's there for'), and think to myself "Christ, that was a bit harsh....".

There's a slightly bullying approach to newcomers on UKP which I found a little off-putting when I joined, I'll be honest. Certain long-time members on the Yorkshire boards, where I spend most of my time, have a swagger which verges on self-importance, and I think that's unhelpful. Others are brilliant, of course, so as with all life it's swings and roundabouts.

I have maybe a dozen punts from the last four years which I could post a Review about, but I'm not 100% sure that any of them are still available, or easily findable. I'll look into that a bit, and will post a historical one if I'm sure that the WG is still around.

[Andrewpan1980]

well!! Any replys for the none reviewers!!! 

Intel need not be encapsulated in a review.

I do a lot of punting abroad, and I see I don't have access to foreign threads anymore. So cannot share my experience.

[last_days_of_logan]

Intel need not be encapsulated in a review.

I do a lot of punting abroad, and I see I don't have access to foreign threads anymore. So cannot share my experience.

its helps us weed through the mass amount of information on the site.

intel gets lost VERY easily if not organised and only found in random posts in random threads in random locations

plus if you can post it in a random location its just as easy to put the review up for community ease

if you dont do any punting locally and do not ask for favours etc and you dont use the site to your benefit then this thread isnt targetting you

but just out of curiousity.....if you only punt abroad and you have not access to the foreign section...what do you use the site for? Off topic stuff i presume?

[last_days_of_logan]

Intel need not be encapsulated in a review.

I do a lot of punting abroad, and I see I don't have access to foreign threads anymore. So cannot share my experience.

i mean your brand new as well so you still have a LOOOONG while to go before you are looking like a leech. This thread isnt really aimed at very new comers who are just finding their feet introducing themselves etc

[Andrewpan1980]

i mean your brand new as well so you still have a LOOOONG while to go before you are looking like a leech. This thread isnt really aimed at very new comers who are just finding their feet introducing themselves etc

Visit London a few times. I registered to see if girls have reviews or comments on them. Other countries allow this without needing to register.

[Moby Dick]

Intel need not be encapsulated in a review.

I do a lot of punting abroad, and I see I don't have access to foreign threads anymore. So cannot share my experience.

You are a new member. Welcome. Let me help explain
The point of doing a review is to ensure the information is readily available for other members. It goes towards an overall score for that SP and everyone can glance through and decide to make a booking. Reading every post on every thread does not have the same outcome, can waste a lot of time, and when you do find a piece of what may be useful information (i.e. she did services for punter X but not punter Y,) and you see punter  X has no reviews against his name then I question if the information is reliable.
So far your 7 posts do not help me. No problem you are new. Take your time to learn how this site works, before making posts, but at some point to gain contribution credibility please review. There is little point requesting information back until you do this.