SAAFE Forum

[Markc]

I remember seeing a thread recently where a SP wouldn’t see a client because she worked out he was a
member of this site. So l was wondering does anyone ever look at the SAAFE Forum site ( Support and Advice
for escorts ) ? I actually found that before finding this site.

It’s interested to see what they like from clients and what they don’t like from us. It also has a section to describe
your last booking which is always an interesting read.

As advice anyone using AW and this site make sure your user names are very different. For example on AW my
username is my first name followed by the year l was born in and my username on this site is my middle name followed
my the letter C which is a random letter l picked.

If anyone is interested look at the escorts site and see what you think.

[Blackpool Rock]

Sorry mate don't know if you do leave AW feedback but if you do then anyone with any sort of interest in doing so could probably quite easily work out your correct name and what region you live in 

[Lou2019]

I remember seeing a thread recently where a SP wouldn’t see a client because she worked out he was a
member of this site. So l was wondering does anyone ever look at the SAAFE Forum site ( Support and Advice
for escorts ) ? I actually found that before finding this site.

It’s interested to see what they like from clients and what they don’t like from us. It also has a section to describe
your last booking which is always an interesting read.

As advice anyone using AW and this site make sure your user names are very different. For example on AW my
username is my first name followed by the year l was born in and my username on this site is my middle name followed
my the letter C which is a random letter l picked.

If anyone is interested look at the escorts site and see what you think.

Old news  SAAFE has been discussed at great length numerous times here.
Wouldn’t just a random name be a better option  sorry I just find any connection to your real details is a bad naive choice.

[daviemac]

If anyone is interested look at the escorts site and see what you think.

We all know what escorts put on saafe and the opinions of punters they post on there if you are really interested then put SAAFE in the search box on the right and read any one of the 50 threads about it. There's probably more but the search is set to return 50 results.

Edit

Just noticed, you use your real name and real date of birth?????   

[Lou2019]

We all know what escorts put on saafe and the opinions of punters they post on there if you are really interested then put SAAFE in the search box on the right and read any one of the 50 threads about it. There's probably more but the search is set to return 50 results.

Does the search function need to be illuminated with flashing lights lol

[daviemac]

Does the search function need to be illuminated with flashing lights lol

I sometimes think so, just had another one, started a thread asking if anyone had seen a masseuse, 10 seconds to put the name in the search and the answer is there.

Credit where credit's due though, he did post a link to who he was asking about, most don't and leave you to guess. 

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Yes its intresting reading like if your bored, and if your extremly bored mumsnet is well sometimes beyound the pale with what they think about men who even would think  of using escorts, first advice given  is to LTB Leave The Bastard and get yourseld tested for STI's, makes me wonder does that!...

[Lou2019]

Yes its intresting reading like if your bored, and if your extremly bored mumsnet is well sometimes beyound the pale with what they think about men who even would think  of using escorts, first advice given  is to LTB Leave The Bastard and get yourseld tested for STI's, makes me wonder does that!...

Gosh the man hating MumsNet! never ceases to amaze me. Why anyone would ask for advice from a bunch of strangers on the future of their relationship is beyond me. It’s always the mans fault too  never the frigid wife. I could go on forever about the subject lol

[anonymouse72]

I do have the occasional check on there. The warnings and wasters can sometimes be a bit disturbing and quite an eye opener. And before any clever sod asks no I've never been listed on there

[finn5555]

Isn’t it the same old witches on that forum stirring their cauldrons 


The majority of pro$$ies on there are well past their sell by dates 

[FiveKnuckles]

just read the last few pages for the thread 'Slow at the minute or just me?'.   those girls really feeling the pinch at the moment and telling each other not to drop prices.  so dusty phone syndrome does exist       

[Blackpool Rock]

just read the last few pages for the thread 'Slow at the minute or just me?'.  those girls really feeling the pinch at the moment and telling each other not to drop prices.  so dusty phone syndrome does exist     

Yeah so they make fuck all but can sleep happy knowing they haven't compromised their "principles" 

[chadpitt]

just read the last few pages for the thread 'Slow at the minute or just me?'.   those girls really feeling the pinch at the moment and telling each other not to drop prices.  so dusty phone syndrome does exist     

I get a kick out of reading that thread. Dropping prices is the obvious thing to do. It's basic supply and demand. They're just stupid and lazy. Instead of doing more work and courting regulars they insist on pushing their prices up and delivering fewer services.

[southcoastpunter]

It's basic supply and demand.

I don't think its that simple. there are issues/concepts of "self worth" ( i am worth this amount and i won't do it for less) and comparative worth (if she is worth that so am i).

i suspect it not just prices that are affecting demand but virus concerns too and some people still working from home and OH's around etc

[Marmalade]

I get a kick out of reading that thread. Dropping prices is the obvious thing to do. It's basic supply and demand. They're just stupid and lazy. Instead of doing more work and courting regulars they insist on pushing their prices up and delivering fewer services.

So what’s ‘stupid’ about that? There are always people willing to pay, so if they have less customers the obvious thing is to charge those customers more. That’s reality.

This is a very old argument that comes up quite often. 

[Taggart]

just read the last few pages for the thread 'Slow at the minute or just me?'.   those girls really feeling the pinch at the moment and telling each other not to drop prices.  so dusty phone syndrome does exist     

When it comes to marketing themselves, many WGs don’t have a clue. Overly long profiles, awful photos of random body areas and a list of do’s and dont’s as long a your arm and wanting £200/hr. Deluded.

Glad business is crap. They need to wake up. Fresh photos and a less demanding price is a start. Oh, and drop prices too.

[Taggart]

I don't think its that simple. there are issues/concepts of "self worth" ( i am worth this amount and i won't do it for less) and comparative worth (if she is worth that so am i).

i suspect it not just prices that are affecting demand but virus concerns too and some people still working from home and OH's around etc

Ah, the overinflated ego bit…because I’m worth it. No, because you think gullible men will pay your crazy price. But most of us won’t🤣🤣

As for point 2, yes it’s bloody hard to ‘escape’ while WFH, let alone having a covert shit, shower and shave as it will lead to the “Oh, where you going…who are you meeting” 🤬

[daviemac]

Ah, the overinflated ego bit…because I’m worth it. No, because you think gullible men will pay your crazy price. But most of us won’t🤣🤣

I see you haven't since 2015.   

[chadpitt]

So what’s ‘stupid’ about that? There are always people willing to pay, so if they have less customers the obvious thing is to charge those customers more. That’s reality.

This is a very old argument that comes up quite often. 

That is again stupid. By charging their customers they make themselves less competitive. Not all those customers will pay more so your left with a smaller customer base who have lots of other options.

With people having less disposable income because of inflation, the last thing they want is to pay more for greedy, lazy, entitled hookers.

[Straightsix]

Ah, the overinflated ego bit…because I’m worth it. No, because you think gullible men will pay your crazy price. But most of us won’t🤣🤣

But they do, judging by the reviews. Having said that it does depend on your budget. Although I could pay £100 for half an hour, I won't.

I have some regulars that have seen me for years. Even though i only see them every few months, even at £30 a ride I have paid them more by revisits than a one time well known expensive SP.

[fisherofsouls]

Ah, the overinflated ego bit…because I’m worth it. No, because you think gullible men will pay your crazy price. But most of us won’t🤣🤣

As for point 2, yes it’s bloody hard to ‘escape’ while WFH, let alone having a covert shit, shower and shave as it will lead to the “Oh, where you going…who are you meeting” 🤬

Ah the benefits of having a gym membership You "have to go to a meeting" so "might as well fit in a workout" at the nearby David Lloyd.  She is happy you are working out, you can get as sweaty as you like at the punt, then pop into the club for a shower

[Fkk]

Ah the benefits of having a gym membership You "have to go to a meeting" so "might as well fit in a workout" at the nearby David Lloyd.  She is happy you are working out, you can get as sweaty as you like at the punt, then pop into the club for a shower

Like your thinking.

[Straightsix]

Ah the benefits of having a gym membership You "have to go to a meeting" so "might as well fit in a workout" at the nearby David Lloyd.  She is happy you are working out, you can get as sweaty as you like at the punt, then pop into the club for a shower

....6 months later your gut is still hanging over your trousers.

[chatman]

Ah the benefits of having a gym membership You "have to go to a meeting" so "might as well fit in a workout" at the nearby David Lloyd.  She is happy you are working out, you can get as sweaty as you like at the punt, then pop into the club for a shower

I have been doing this for years, just off to the gym for a swim! I should look like Adam Peaty by now!   
I take my towel and swim shorts, have a shower at the SP's place (so no club visit needed), come home with everything wet!
My fav SP's know the routine too, so remind me to have a shower & even ask if I want a dash of bleach for that authentic swimming pool smell! 

[lamboman]

& even ask if I want a dash of bleach for that authentic swimming pool smell! 

You really haven't been to a pool for ages,bleach 

[sparkus]

The thread on Gumtree ads on there is interesting - some SPs think their ads are being pulled by Gumtree after either being pro-actively called by Gumtree staff who ask them if they provide extras or by Chinese medicine shops reporting them to drive local rivals away. 

There's quite a few blatant ads up on Gumtree now (after years of easily triggered bans eg. 'That flower looks like a vulva, you're banned!') so I'm a bit sceptical about this.

Of course there may be aware of actual instances of this happening.  But I'm guessing most calls made by desperate sounding men panting "How much for a happy ending?!" are the real thing, I've overheard enough in my time while face down on a massage table (or in bed).

[Taggart]

I see you haven't since 2015.   

Correct. Reason (medical) was aired in another thread. Have an all clear now!

[Fuzzyduck]

just read the last few pages for the thread 'Slow at the minute or just me?'.   those girls really feeling the pinch at the moment and telling each other not to drop prices.  so dusty phone syndrome does exist     

I got a random text from someone I saw fairly recently (not yet reviewed) who was clearly looking to drum up business. I asked her if things were quiet and she confirmed she'd had quite a few cancellations over the last week or so.

[suttonporksword]

I had never been on there until today and was attracted by this post. Have to say a lot of the posts on there had me in bits. All men are wankers with no morals or standards of behaviours- coming from women who rely on these men for their livelihood. I guess we are guilty of generalising but if escorts kept to bookings less men would cancel and Visa versa, just as an example. Not sure I would be openly staring significant earnings on there as many seem happy to do

[Watts.E.Dunn]

I had never been on there until today and was attracted by this post. Have to say a lot of the posts on there had me in bits. All men are wankers with no morals or standards of behaviours- coming from women who rely on these men for their livelihood. I guess we are guilty of generalising but if escorts kept to bookings less men would cancel and Visa versa, just as an example. Not sure I would be openly staring significant earnings on there as many seem happy to do

Yes they bitch about time wasters, we grumble about lack of comms and no shows and B&S and i suspect thats not going to change anytime soon;!....

[Straightsix]

Reading the posts on the forum I can convincingly state the the girls are transactional.
Nobody ever admits "the client looked homeless yet he fucked me hard enough that i came 3 times and squirted too. He then walked out without even saying "thank you". What a wanker"

[Lou2019]

Reading the posts on the forum I can convincingly state the the girls are transactional.
Nobody ever admits "the client looked homeless yet he fucked me hard enough that i came 3 times and squirted too. He then walked out without even saying "thank you". What a wanker"

transactional, as in relating to the conducting of business? who’d have thought it 

[Straightsix]

transactional, as in relating to the conducting of business? who’d have thought it 

That's right, open your legs and insert coins. I don't blame you for thinking it's anything else. 

[sparkus]

Reading the posts on the forum I can convincingly state the the girls are transactional.
Nobody ever admits "the client looked homeless yet he fucked me hard enough that i came 3 times and squirted too. He then walked out without even saying "thank you". What a wanker"

But there is a thread on there about what to do if a client looks/is homeless (I did wonder, having once stood behind two at a reception as they quibbled over pound coins...)

[Straightsix]

But there is a thread on there about what to do if a client looks/is homeless

Haha! I can imagine the confusion, as if it wasn't a given. 'Stilton cock or loss of earnings?'

(I did wonder, having once stood behind two at a reception as they quibbled over pound coins...)

.....obviously this cheap hotel didn't have tea and coffee facilities.

[sparkus]

Haha! I can imagine the confusion, as if it wasn't a given. 'Stilton cock or loss of earnings?'
.....obviously this cheap hotel didn't have tea and coffee facilities.

In the case I'm referring to (which was a long gone 'sauna') the duo were both in clothes they'd clearly slept in, which were very greasy and stinky, as were they.  Obviously no WG would want to provide services to street drinkers who hadn't bathed in ages.  I also didn't want anyone there to go near them then me!

In any case they had their fight and one said "It's alright, you go in front pal", so that I did.  And had a quality session with Italian redhead Roxana (first of many meetings).

[Straightsix]

In any case they had their fight and one said "It's alright, you go in front pal", so that I did.  And had a quality session with Italian redhead Roxana (first of many meetings).

Do you think the tramps had banged the shit out of your regular there? Did you kiss her?

[sparkus]

Do you think the tramps had banged the shit out of your regular there? Did you kiss her?

They weren't allowed in it seems (not least as they clearly didn't have enough money).

[Straightsix]

They weren't allowed in it seems (not least as they clearly didn't have enough money).

A tag team would have been a great review.

[sparkus]

A tag team would have been a great review.

They barely looked able to use opposable thumbs and basic tools, never mind an electronic device.

[Mr_Shins]

It will never happen (as far as I see) that an escort is happy to discuss their pricing structure with us.

Escorting Hub (which replaced UK escorting) became the site where essentially punters and providers can interact but it's almost taboo to discuss there. "These are my rates, others pay them, don't argue"...  I have also noticed that pretty much every London-based escort on there charges around £250 an hour and I won't pay that - why should I, I can get a very good service for a lot less - they'd have to convince me they are better than some of the best escorts who charge £160 for an hour.

This site is of course for punters and SAAFE for escorts but punters can read the posts as you don't need to sign up to join. Escorts there generally are not using their professional names so you don't know who they are.

Yes, there are probably a lot of "timewasters". Enquiring and then not booking in my opinion though is not timewasting.

[LLPunting]

... Enquiring and then not booking in my opinion though is not timewasting.

This is particularly true.  If the girl's unable to make the sale from the initial interaction then she's failing in her seduction/marketing.  Shitty, dismissive and/or perfunctory comms that doesn't always answer the simple questions asked does nothing to encourage a punter's sense of how the actual meet will go.

[Lou2019]

This is particularly true.  If the girl's unable to make the sale from the initial interaction then she's failing in her seduction/marketing.  Shitty, dismissive and/or perfunctory comms that doesn't always answer the simple questions asked does nothing to encourage a punter's sense of how the actual meet will go.

That is nonsense there are men who make a hobby out of contacting us for their amusement or to gain wank fodder. Timewasters are a thing nothing to do with out seduction/marketing.

[Lou2019]

That is nonsense there are men who make a hobby out of contacting us for their amusement or to gain wank fodder. They have absolutely no intention of making a booking. Timewasters are a thing nothing to do with our seduction/marketing.

[finn5555]

This is particularly true.  If the girl's unable to make the sale from the initial interaction then she's failing in her seduction/marketing.  Shitty, dismissive and/or perfunctory comms that doesn't always answer the simple questions asked does nothing to encourage a punter's sense of how the actual meet will go.

Totally agree they need to work harder there is a colossal amount of pussy to be had and when parting with the kind of money they expect nowadays they should make more of an effort 

[Mr_Shins]

That is nonsense there are men who make a hobby out of contacting us for their amusement or to gain wank fodder. Timewasters are a thing nothing to do with out seduction/marketing.

Maybe some do, but maybe others are generally enquiring? For me, I have a very specific request, I can't just ask SP if she is available at a specific time then book. And it can be more complicated than simply stating the basics.

You need to remember that a lot of the time, the first session will be a test for whether I will book her again. If you don't deliver on the first session it will also be your last with me, and as you should know, repeat business is key. (If it isn't for you, you're probably doing something wrong)

[Lou2019]

Maybe some do, but maybe others are generally enquiring? For me, I have a very specific request, I can't just ask SP if she is available at a specific time then book. And it can be more complicated than simply stating the basics.

You need to remember that a lot of the time, the first session will be a test for whether I will book her again. If you don't deliver on the first session it will also be your last with me, and as you should know, repeat business is key. (If it isn't for you, you're probably doing something wrong)

I think two subjects are getting a bit blurred, I was talking about hobby timewasters, not SPs performance etc

[daviemac]

It will never happen (as far as I see) that an escort is happy to discuss their pricing structure with us.

Escorting Hub (which replaced UK escorting) became the site where essentially punters and providers can interact but it's almost taboo to discuss there. "These are my rates, others pay them, don't argue"...  I have also noticed that pretty much every London-based escort on there charges around £250 an hour and I won't pay that - why should I, I can get a very good service for a lot less - they'd have to convince me they are better than some of the best escorts who charge £160 for an hour.

This site is of course for punters and SAAFE for escorts but punters can read the posts as you don't need to sign up to join. Escorts there generally are not using their professional names so you don't know who they are.

Yes, there are probably a lot of "timewasters". Enquiring and then not booking in my opinion though is not timewasting.

There's parts of SAAFE that you need to be registered and signed in to see.

[Blackpool Rock]

This is particularly true.  If the girl's unable to make the sale from the initial interaction then she's failing in her seduction/marketing.  Shitty, dismissive and/or perfunctory comms that doesn't always answer the simple questions asked does nothing to encourage a punter's sense of how the actual meet will go.

On the contrary I would say it gives the punter a good sense that the punt could well turn out shit 

That is nonsense there are men who make a hobby out of contacting us for their amusement or to gain wank fodder. Timewasters are a thing nothing to do with out seduction/marketing.

I do also agree with your point however that genuine enquiries and then not booking is one thing and the genuine fantasist timewasters who want to talk and wank are what spoils it for the genuine punters and also the girls 

[sparkus]

That is nonsense there are men who make a hobby out of contacting us for their amusement or to gain wank fodder. Timewasters are a thing nothing to do with out seduction/marketing.

I don't doubt it but I don't get what gratification could be had from it.

A brothel I'd visited for years suddenly plummeted in quality due to a change of management, so I kept walking. The maid then said "You're not one of these men who just come here to look are you?" No madam, I'd not expose myself to risk in walking in and out of a well known brothel just to see bored pasty women in their skimpies. But I wondered who on earth would