Members who don't submit reviews.

[Monsieur69]

This morning I posted on the Jamie Oliver thread and was asked why I had submitted no reviews but could find the time to write a lengthy "article" on our Jamie. A relevant question in the circumstances and here are my reasons.
First of all this site is about Punting / using prostitutes or Service Providers as they are also known. It is not exclusively about reviews and reviewing SPs. The Reviews section is one of 5 Main sections and I have contributed to the other 4 quite a few times.
" OK smartarse " I hear you say " Those of us who have taken many for the team have risked a load of dosh on sorting out the good from the bad and all your type do is lurk and never contribute a review"
In other words I am a parasite.
Secondly.
In my defence , and possibly for others, I have only used an Adultwork based SP once and will never do so again. It's just not my thing. I don't do FS anyway I prefer massage. I am over 65 and have issues with ED. I find the whole FS thing stressful and I don't enjoy it. I want to get relief for my " stress" and spend some time with a much younger pretty lady.
So I am not anything like the "typical" UKP member.
Thirdly.
When I find a good SP I stick with her. I have had 50 + sessions with several SPs and I am quite happy with them. So I don't need continually to be fed with real time information on who is new and who is hot. I occasionally read a review but it is likely to be about a party as I have never had the courage to go to one and they hold a sort of voyeuristic fascination for me.
Final point: I was over 50 when PCs came into use in Offices and am capable of logging on and posting but I wouldn't have a clue
how to do set up a review.
As I would like to contribute some relevant information I would like to share my experience of FBSM suppliers who I rate in the Greater London area. A review, as I understand it, cannot feature several SPs at the same time so I will post info in Regional Punting - Greater London.
In conclusion- thanks to all those who have made multiple reviews or indeed any reviews at all.

[Davido0007]

As long as you are contributing in some way (which you are), then I don't see the massive problem with no reviews. Lots of other ways to help out just by general advice.

[DannyJames]

As long as you are contributing in some way (which you are), then I don't see the massive problem with no reviews. Lots of other ways to help out just by general advice.

I agree, but occasionally there is a member who likes to think they are higher up the hierarchy because of their review count. They forget that there is admin, then there is the rest of us.

Lots of members contribute advice beyond reviews, I agree. I've learned a lot from posters such as Nik, Smiths, JRC, CoolTiger, to name just a few, but from the advice they have given outside of their reviews. I'm sure their reviews are helpful, but they are generally for locations I'm not likely to punt in.

[Davido0007]

I agree, but occasionally there is a member who likes to think they are higher up the hierarchy because of their review count. They forget that there is admin, then there is the rest of us.

Lots of members contribute advice beyond reviews, I agree. I've learned a lot from posters such as Nik, Smiths, JRC, CoolTiger, to name just a few, but from the advice they have given outside of their reviews. I'm sure their reviews are helpful, but they are generally for locations I'm not likely to punt in.

Yeah. This isn't a videogame where you rank up with reviews. xD I am guessing I would only be a Private First Class by my review count. Although I would totally play it if it existed.

[cueball]

Aaahh... reviews... again.

Unlikely as this may sound I don't actually have any problem with none reviewing members. I do enjoy seeing contribution from all.

What gets up my nose is the none contributing lurkers who all of a sudden post asking for the best recommendations. To me, ukp is an information exchange, whether it be reviews, warnings, opinions and laughs for that matter.

FWIW I actually enjoy writing a review. Yes, I do it to share but I also do it because I enjoy writing it.

But... my trusted buddies who I share info and recommendations with via pm before it gets on the boards are all review contributing members.

It has to be said though... don't be surprised if you get very little help or advice on here if you've put very little in, that's not directed at any one member in particular though.

[Steely Dan]

Don't write them if you don't want to.  But have a thick skin if you don't.  Because these reasons make no sense.

-There is no such thing as a normal punter.  Just because we are not like you, don't think we are like each other. We are all special.
-FBSM is equally valid to FS.
-You cant write them since you have too many to review and the rules say one per post?  Just write about one then. Saying you can't write any since you have too many you could write makes no sense.
-There is no software needed or computer skills.  It is just posting a note in a different area. 

Reviews are the core of this site.  Other things are fine but they are not the core.

Do or do not.  But don't make up false reasons.

[cueball]

my post was more general but SD does make sure valid points in his post above monsy

[sushi]

Pretty much in the same boat as the OP, I see one SW occasionally but she is all but retired and not longer advertises and I guess not to most posters tastes. I don't contribute to the reviews but there again I don't use them, I only post in the general thread or the off topic.
I understand its annoying to those who have ventured and TOFTT to be told later down the line someone knew she was a time waster or a bait and switch. I agree its only fair to expect members to contribute if they are active and benefiting from others reviews.

[Steely Dan]

Pretty much in the same boat as the OP, I see one SW occasionally but she is all but retired and not longer advertises and I guess not to most posters tastes. I don't contribute to the reviews but there again I don't use them, I only post in the general thread or the off topic.
I understand its annoying to those who have ventured and TOFTT to be told later down the line someone knew she was a time waster or a bait and switch. I agree its only fair to expect members to contribute if they are active and benefiting from others reviews.

This is a valid reason.  If you don't have relevant FS or FBSM experiences to share, then of course you can't write reviews.  But the OP did not offer this as one of his reasons.

[Spunky34]

I have no problem with people who don't write reviews, with the following exceptions:

1) People who only post to ask for advice/recommendations on who to see, if they never do anything but this they are taking without contributing anything.
2) People who don't post reviews but then pop up (usually in replying to a neutral/negative review from someone else) saying 'yes, I saw her a while ago and I also didn't have a good time' - someone who had the opportunity to save another punter from a bad experience and chose not to.  To me, that is contrary to the spirit of the site.

[threechilliman]

I have no problem with people who don't write reviews, with the following exceptions:

1) People who only post to ask for advice/recommendations on who to see, if they never do anything but this they are taking without contributing anything.
2) People who don't post reviews but then pop up (usually in replying to a neutral/negative review from someone else) saying 'yes, I saw her a while ago and I also didn't have a good time' - someone who had the opportunity to save another punter from a bad experience and chose not to.  To me, that is contrary to the spirit of the site.

Spot on. Exactly as I see it as well.

tcm

[twwb]

People who don't post reviews but then pop up (usually in replying to a neutral/negative review from someone else) saying 'yes, I saw her a while ago and I also didn't have a good time' - someone who had the opportunity to save another punter from a bad experience and chose not to.  To me, that is contrary to the spirit of the site.

I haven't been using this site actively for very long but this is definitely the most annoying thing I see on here. I think negative reviews are more important than positives tbh and choosing to not warn other users about a bad service is pretty bad.

[Spacecowb0y]

As others have said,this site is about information exchange, primarily of sex workers and massueses.
Even a short paragraph may help another punter avoid or book a service.
Your reasons are your own,but reviews are the lifeblood of any punting forum.

[Silver Birch]

I have no problem with people who don't write reviews, with the following exceptions:

1) People who only post to ask for advice/recommendations on who to see, if they never do anything but this they are taking without contributing anything.
2) People who don't post reviews but then pop up (usually in replying to a neutral/negative review from someone else) saying 'yes, I saw her a while ago and I also didn't have a good time' - someone who had the opportunity to save another punter from a bad experience and chose not to.  To me, that is contrary to the spirit of the site.

This sums up my thoughts in a nutshell, especially No2

[Brazilian Martian]

I have little time for people that dnt review unless they provide other valuable Intel. But what pisses me off is when people say they dnt like writing reviews or when they chime in and piggyback off someone's else, with yeah I've seen her she gives a good service or yeah I saw her last week/year she's an awful SP.

[pumps]

OP your being a bit sensitive - folks here are passionate about reviews as it's the heart & back bone of the forum imo, it's what makes the place great and better than all those other forums. **cough** prossienet **cough**

obviously with your personal circumstances your not quite suited to FS reviews, although there's nothing stopping you from leaving massage based reviews I guess...., (I haven't bothered to check) but I doubt your post history consists of numerous posts asking.... "where can I find?" "who can recommend" " Who has seen xxx?"

It's those poster which have been member's for years, longer than me in some cases that only come on to retrieve info and never feedback that get the stick.

[Mansell]

I have no problem with people who don't write reviews, with the following exceptions:

1) People who only post to ask for advice/recommendations on who to see, if they never do anything but this they are taking without contributing anything.
2) People who don't post reviews but then pop up (usually in replying to a neutral/negative review from someone else) saying 'yes, I saw her a while ago and I also didn't have a good time' - someone who had the opportunity to save another punter from a bad experience and chose not to.  To me, that is contrary to the spirit of the site.

Spot on  agree totally.

[Titti Tatti]

Monsieur. I am not a young man and I appreciate a SENSUA£ massage.  I will review the best I've found once she s  back from her Russian holiday


Please lets see yours

[ERIC_SHUN]

I'm over 60 and whilst I still do some FS I usually go for the sensual massage as well. For that reason I would very much appreciate your recommendation however brief. Reviews don't need to be War and Peace.

[mediumjoe]

Monsieur , like  you I am hopeless with computers but if you can post replies you can post a review, at the top of every page it says post review just fill it in it's a doddle.  It doesn't matter that it's  a massage and hand relief,  it's all good information to somebody else on here. Joe

[Jimmyredcab]

It is not a condition of membership that you post reviews -------------------- but to say you don't know how to is absolute cobblers. 

[NIK]

I don't post reviews anymore, because you have to punt to review. 

[Jamesthegreat78]

Quite reassuring to read this post today having been cited in much the same way myself yesterday. Apparently, just adding comments, however useful then may be, invalidates your opinion! Only serial reviewers are respected it seems. It's amazing how quick people are to jump on those they deem aren't conforming to certain 'rules'. Here's a link to the thread I contributed to yesterday...

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=125756.0

[Bangers and Gash]

I don't post reviews anymore, because you have to punt to review. 

I'm sure you could scrape together £30 to visit one of those much publicised brothels round your manor? 

 

[LurkNoMore]

A review is a review even if it short! you do not have to go into great detail just the basics, but a report on a bad girl could save me money.

[Brazilian Martian]

A review is a review even if it short! you do not have to go into great detail just the basics, but a report on a bad girl could save me money.

 + 100

If you have time to post comments, then you have time to post a review I'm no longer going to respond to info from members with no reviews. Why should i do all the dog work and they contribute fuck all with regards to helping punters out, I know punting is a selfish hobby but it's still good to give back.

[NIK]

I'm sure you could scrape together £30 to visit one of those much publicised brothels round your manor? 

I'd sooner cut my cock off with a rusty knife and shove it up my arse. 
If it was free they'd have to pay me to go! 

[Marmalade]

In my defence , and possibly for others, I have only used an Adultwork based SP once and will never do so again. It's just not my thing. I don't do FS anyway I prefer massage. I am over 65 and have issues with ED. I find the whole FS thing stressful and I don't enjoy it. I want to get relief for my " stress" and spend some time with a much younger pretty lady.

When I find a good SP I stick with her. I have had 50 + sessions with several SPs and I am quite happy with them.

As I would like to contribute some relevant information I would like to share my experience of FBSM suppliers who I rate in the Greater London area. A review, as I understand it, cannot feature several SPs at the same time so I will post info in Regional Punting - Greater London.
In conclusion- thanks to all those who have made multiple reviews or indeed any reviews at all.

It's fine to review your massage sessions. If you review them separately it makes it easier for others to find them (unless you want to keep them to yourself). I have sometimes reviewed several together (often after doing them separately) in the general section and that simply because it allows punters to see your standards of comparison.

If you run up a lot of posts over a long time I think some people will inevitable throw some stick at you occasionally. You will have to live with it or answer it. But the forum tends to be quite good at discriminating. They want to know that you are a genuine punter (it doesn't matter if 'typical' or not) and don't write rubbish.

One last thing -- it's not really a 'chat' forum: it's a forum for exchanging info on paid sex and helping punters get value for money with paid sex. Maybe you have something to contribute in that way (there are plenty of members your age I suspect). The chat sections about general rubbish, coffee and politics etc, seem to be there as a bonus for contributing punters. Otherwise the site would be overloaded with non-punters.

Admin runs UKP with his own money. It's a service to punters after people got fed up with the fake review sites and prossie-run sites. There's no advertising or donations so no objective of getting members numbers up just for the sake of it.

Best of luck!

[mash]

If you dont punt, what is the point in visiting a punting site to chat randomly about off topic stuff. I was a regular on prossienet and posted reviews there back in the day but when I stopped punting for a few years I stopped visiting the site.

I'm not gonna join a gardeners forum if I dont have a garden to talk about current affairs am I?!

[Marmalade]

If you dont punt, what is the point in visiting a punting site to chat randomly about off topic stuff. I was a regular on prossienet and posted reviews there back in the day but when I stopped punting for a few years I stopped visiting the site.

I'm not gonna join a gardeners forum if I dont have a garden to talk about current affairs am I?!

Someone who just masturbates at the thought of rhododendrons might. 

[catweazle]

I'm with Marmalade in post #27.

There's members on here with literally thousands of posts, and reviews in the single figures, with the last one three years ago. I don't feel they are ' contributing' in the spirit of the forum. A three year old review isn't much help today. By all means comment on other posts but add to the live reviews to help others make informed choices.

[cueball]

I have no problem with people who don't write reviews, with the following exceptions:

1) People who only post to ask for advice/recommendations on who to see, if they never do anything but this they are taking without contributing anything.
2) People who don't post reviews but then pop up (usually in replying to a neutral/negative review from someone else) saying 'yes, I saw her a while ago and I also didn't have a good time' - someone who had the opportunity to save another punter from a bad experience and chose not to.  To me, that is contrary to the spirit of the site.

Agreed

Good post

[madeinwales56]

Maybe UKP could be organised in a way that you need to have posted a minimum number of reviews before you are able to view reviews. Just a thought ...

[threechilliman]

Another irritation are members with no reviews and very few posts who PM you asking for info on a certain girl. They get ignored.

tcm

[pumps]

Another irritation are members with no reviews and very few posts who PM you asking for info on a certain girl. They get ignored.

tcm

OHHHH DONT GET ME STARTED ON THOSE GUYS!.

one time I gave one of those the benefit of the doubt, then within hours later the prossie was signed up on the forum mouthing off that my review miss represented her and I shouldn't be sharing her photos from AW PG.

when asked how she found her way to the forum....She then claimed she googled herself, but I highly doubt that.

[cueball]

Another irritation are members with no reviews and very few posts who PM you asking for info on a certain girl. They get ignored.

I don't seem to get many of those these days  must be something I said 

[Steely Dan]

Quite reassuring to read this post today having been cited in much the same way myself yesterday. Apparently, just adding comments, however useful then may be, invalidates your opinion! Only serial reviewers are respected it seems. It's amazing how quick people are to jump on those they deem aren't conforming to certain 'rules'. Here's a link to the thread I contributed to yesterday...

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=125756.0

You got a hard time not since you have no reviews, but because you were being a White Knight and defending an escort from a negative comment.  A girl you never reviewed.  You could have 100 reviews of other escorts.  But when you WK an escort that you have not reviewed many still find this annoying.

The best way to be fair to girls that give you a good service is to review them.  Not to wait until another has a bad time and say 'but I didn't'.  Almost as bad as waiting until one of us has a bad time and saying 'yeah me too.'

That is because a review is not only about the rating.  Your positive experience may have helped that other punter avoid her if not what he wanted. Or to get his expectations in line. You not only missed the opportunity to help that punter by posting a review, you taunted him after the fact with your WK comment.

So in my view we value useful comments from those with 0 and 100 reviews.  But dislike WKs of all flavours.

[pumps]

Quite reassuring to read this post today having been cited in much the same way myself yesterday. Apparently, just adding comments, however useful then may be, invalidates your opinion! Only serial reviewers are respected it seems. It's amazing how quick people are to jump on those they deem aren't conforming to certain 'rules'. Here's a link to the thread I contributed to yesterday...

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=125756.0

I didn't even click the link you posted as you were whining too much, that was until I read steely dans' comment, which I fully agree with.


Just here to say FLOL that you got called out by englishrebecca of all the possible members of this forum, that's hilarious and shameful 

[Horizontal pleasures]

Maybe UKP could be organised in a way that you need to have posted a minimum number of reviews before you are able to view reviews. Just a thought ...

+1
just like no sending private messages or viewing some confidential folders until .... not sure until what.

[Horizontal pleasures]

+ 100

If you have time to post comments, then you have time to post a review I'm no longer going to respond to info from members with no reviews. Why should i do all the dog work and they contribute fuck all with regards to helping punters out, I know punting is a selfish hobby but it's still good to give back.

+1
they know who they are, 'helpful' or censorious put-down comments and no evidence of a review which really can be helpful. How do you know which SPs to avoid unless you read my reviews .... All those lurkers, voyeurs and wise guys need to share also.

[Neal69]

I am more of a reader than a poster.

I have gained some great information from this site that has improved my punting experience no end.

I do try to review to put something back into a site that I have gained so much from.

I'm afraid that there is a definite waft of bullshit in the OP post. As has been said before " If You can post a comment you can post a review". Not everyone punts the same and even if your punts are Massage and HR then at least you could let others know that the WG does actually exist ( ie not a PG scam) and does actually supply the service that is advertised.

IMHO Reviews are the lifeblood of this site. All the rest is just so much window dressing.

N

[Brazilian Martian]

+1
they know who they are, 'helpful' or censorious put-down comments and no evidence of a review which really can be helpful. How do you know which SPs to avoid unless you read my reviews .... All those lurkers, voyeurs and wise guys need to share also.

+100

[Marmalade]

I am more of a reader than a poster.

I have gained some great information from this site that has improved my punting experience no end.

I do try to review to put something back into a site that I have gained so much from.

I'm afraid that there is a definite waft of bullshit in the OP post. As has been said before " If You can post a comment you can post a review". Not everyone punts the same and even if your punts are Massage and HR then at least you could let others know that the WG does actually exist ( ie not a PG scam) and does actually supply the service that is advertised.

IMHO Reviews are the lifeblood of this site. All the rest is just so much window dressing.

Pretty good points. I first started getting info when travelling abroad from ISG. It made me feel inclined to give back in proportion to what it had given me. I feel much the same about UKP although in the early days it was mostly out of a spirit of support for the hard won perseverance and efforts of Nik and the guy who now owns the site. I just think don't abuse something.

[PLeisure]

OP, if you have any sense of perspective, you'd have to agree that your poor attempt at excusing yourself from reviewing wasn't especially successful.

Here, let the Wiki assist... External Link/Members Only 

[Northerndave666]

So far no response from the King of non-reviewing James999. I believe he has a post count of over 10,000 and zero reviews. None of his posts are even about punting,  Why would you post on a punting board when you don't punt?

So yes OP, it's great that you contribute to the board on punting matters, but you see WG's and don't post reviews and then use some old pony about not knowing how to (but you can post on here....eh?).

As the mighty WHAM! would have put it : "They told me marriage was a give and take, Well, you've shown me you can take you've got some giving to do"

[Brazilian Martian]

So far no response from the King of non-reviewing James999. I believe he has a post count of over 10,000 and zero reviews. None of his posts are even about punting,  Why would you post on a punting board when you don't punt?

So yes OP, it's great that you contribute to the board on punting matters, but you see WG's and don't post reviews and then use some old pony about not knowing how to (but you can post on here....eh?).

As the mighty WHAM! would have put it : "They told me marriage was a give and take, Well, you've shown me you can take you've got some giving to do"

To be fair to James999 he does contribute a lot to this site he can spot touts, white knight, and trolls a mile off. I'm sure he can speak for himself but that's just my opinion and others have said he has given them recommendations 

[shagbambi]

Despite being a pachyderm and not being good with computers  the OP has managed to write a very good and reasoned defence of his lack of reviews.  I think that would be the skill set required for his first review of an FBSM that he has experienced.  The multiple review he suggests is a very lazy way of trying to catch up on his homework. Hopefully the dog does not eat it.

[GolfNut]

Interesting conversation going off on this review https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=126343.0;all

We've got one leech sticking up for another one defending his right to post absolute crap 

[tesla]

So far no response from the King of non-reviewing James999. I believe he has a post count of over 10,000 and zero reviews. None of his posts are even about punting,  Why would you post on a punting board when you don't punt?

So yes OP, it's great that you contribute to the board on punting matters, but you see WG's and don't post reviews and then use some old pony about not knowing how to (but you can post on here....eh?).

As the mighty WHAM! would have put it : "They told me marriage was a give and take, Well, you've shown me you can take you've got some giving to do"

admin has said some members on here are allowed to have two profiles, ie a separate one for reviewing due to the other being known.
I have no idea who these people are, but maybe think before calling someone out on non reviewing

[Mr Farkyhars]

I'm afraid that there is a definite waft of bullshit in the OP post. As has been said before " If You can post a comment you can post a review"

Unless perhaps the OP has seen the occasions, more than a few, when people have been criticised for the style and (lack of) content in a review. I could understand a relative newbie thinking twice in those circumstances - but in response I say that there is a guide to review-writing on here, and if you have omitted something, we will query specifics so it doesn't need to stop you reviewing altogether.