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Offline Colston36

@Estats

I disagree. First of all your saying that the QE (money printing) will lead to inflation but so far it hasn't because we have rock bottom interest rates and consumer behaviour has changed. People are working in their pajamas and making their own sandwiches instead of wearing expensive suits and splurging at Starbucks. That behaviour is unlikely to return in full.

Secondly your saving there's pent up demand and that might be true, but libidos don't increase over time far from it. People may have begun to loss the urge.

Your saying that punters are usually better off which I agree with. However there are still punters who would have been furloughed, layed off or seen a downturn in business. Either way they're not not all better off and that may force them to decrease their spending on hobbies.

The last point about supply I agree that Brexit will be a disincentive. However tourists can still stay a considerable amount of time and the rest of the Eurozone is also gonna be screwed by the lockdowns. There's only so many hookers Germany can take on. Local girls might join the profession even with the spread of Only Fans as that's becoming increasingly saturated. Seeing as the pandemic has screwed Gen Zs the hardest young girls won't have a lot of options.

I admit prices have increased since the start of this chaos but we're in the eye of the storm right now. Furlough is about to end and businesses are thinking of moving jobs across the pond because of all these customs changes. Retail is dying and more and more young people are entering the job market.  So there's more downward pressures at to come.

You are mistaken. As far back as history goes there has been inflation. When I was young I could get paralytic on under 50p (10/-). The first mini cost £500. A lady of the night I lived with made £50,000 in 5 years. The equivalent today would be well over a million.

Offline Nacholibre

You are mistaken. As far back as history goes there has been inflation. When I was young I could get paralytic on under 50p (10/-). The first mini cost £500. A lady of the night I lived with made £50,000 in 5 years. The equivalent today would be well over a million.

I'm sorry but your analogy is just not remotely realistic

Lilith was far more close to the facts

Most WG's at best cover their current costs, send money home and maybe a few luxuries

A small few will have investments like Lilith alluded

I don't think it will be the same again for years

Already talking about revaccination later this year due to new variants

Social distancing.. the risk to the older community continuing to be in the headlines....the time taken to vaccinate globally

And ofcourse the austerity measures coming

Like I said. There will be a high end escort market and then a far bigger low end market due to ops having to be more frugal

Just my thoughts
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Offline Paris69

Just thought i'd throw a couple of random details into the pricing structure, mix.

An Elephant & Castle WG I know incredibly well advertises at £1k for an overnight. She then advertises an overnight special at £800; but she tells me she never gets it and the usual rate is £500-ish.

She is struggling to pay her £2,400pm rent..... then last week, Bingo! She took in £3k in 6 days.

No logic to any of this during a pandemic: And as someone said earlier in the post, the Covid precautions they claim to take are window-dressing. We know it; they know it
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Offline Nacholibre

Just thought i'd throw a couple of random details into the pricing structure, mix.

An Elephant & Castle WG I know incredibly well advertises at £1k for an overnight. She then advertises an overnight special at £800; but she tells me she never gets it and the usual rate is £500-ish.

She is struggling to pay her £2,400pm rent..... then last week, Bingo! She took in £3k in 6 days.

No logic to any of this during a pandemic: And as someone said earlier in the post, the Covid precautions they claim to take are window-dressing. We know it; they know it

So when you average it out over the 12 months
Probably paying her way with a little extra

A couple of big rollers to save the day
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Offline seandana

I'm sorry but your analogy is just not remotely realistic

Lilith was far more close to the facts

Most WG's at best cover their current costs, send money home and maybe a few luxuries

A small few will have investments like Lilith alluded

I don't think it will be the same again for years

Already talking about revaccination later this year due to new variants

Social distancing.. the risk to the older community continuing to be in the headlines....the time taken to vaccinate globally

And ofcourse the austerity measures coming

Like I said. There will be a high end escort market and then a far bigger low end market due to ops having to be more frugal

Just my thoughts

You seem to be doing a lot of ass kissing for Miss Noir in your posts , I think she would prefer if you booked her and paid for this service.

Offline jay121

Good Sps are always going to be busy as they will have their regulars and also  new punters to compliment the regulars. What they make or don't make does not really concern me as long as they provide a good service.

Offline Nacholibre

You seem to be doing a lot of ass kissing for Miss Noir in your posts , I think she would prefer if you booked her and paid for this service.

Only seen her once
And personally I find she is quite blunt in her posts
Slight air of arrogance even though we OPs pays the bills

BUT her point about wgs was pretty much on point and she offers a good service

No need to kiss her ass. Unless I'm paying for it
And I might do once lockdown over
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Offline seandana

Only seen her once
And personally I find she is quite blunt in her posts
Slight air of arrogance even though we OPs pays the bills

BUT her point about wgs was pretty much on point and she offers a good service

No need to kiss her ass. Unless I'm paying for it
And I might do once lockdown over

I must have missed your review. :unknown:

Offline Nacholibre

I must have missed your review. :unknown:

Ha ha joker 😂

Saw her once a while ago but will book as soon as lockdown over....if I can get a booking I would like to see her new boobies....

Been watching a lot of Narcos on Netflix and that's also got me in the mood for the Brazilian influx of WG's
Just not sure about them. I like a good Latina but seems risky

On another note...has anyone ever met Bia in the past?

She was a super hot Brazilian working in London a few years ago...quite possibly the fittest wgbive ever shagged
Saw her many times

Think she is still on twitter will dig out the link if I can
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Offline seandana

Ha ha joker 😂

Saw her once a while ago but will book as soon as lockdown over....if I can get a booking I would like to see her new boobies....

Been watching a lot of Narcos on Netflix and that's also got me in the mood for the Brazilian influx of WG's
Just not sure about them. I like a good Latina but seems risky

On another note...has anyone ever met Bia in the past?

She was a super hot Brazilian working in London a few years ago...quite possibly the fittest wgbive ever shagged
Saw her many times

Think she is still on twitter will dig out the link if I can

 :dash: :dash:

Offline Paris69

So when you average it out over the 12 months
Probably paying her way with a little extra

A couple of big rollers to save the day

Yeah, though i know in her good week it was just your average Joe, working punter. She is v v attractive in my eyes, but she doesn't really attract the high rollers. Probably her personality thing.

Over a year; kinda gets by, with very little to nothing ever spare - but that's as much to do with her expensive 'habits' tbh...

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Offline Nacholibre

Ha ha joker 😂

Saw her once a while ago but will book as soon as lockdown over....if I can get a booking I would like to see her new boobies....

Been watching a lot of Narcos on Netflix and that's also got me in the mood for the Brazilian influx of WG's
Just not sure about them. I like a good Latina but seems risky

On another note...has anyone ever met Bia in the past?

She was a super hot Brazilian working in London a few years ago...quite possibly the fittest wgbive ever shagged
Saw her many times

Think she is still on twitter will dig out the link if I can

Found her...Bia...searched on here

Used to see her during 2014-2017

Fit as fuck

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Offline LilithNoir

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Slight air of arrogance even though we OPs pays the bills

Gosh, have this issue time and time again both in the prozzer mode and the vanilla mode  :D

Sorry if you felt that way, it wasn’t my intention and sometimes unfortunately can come across different to intended or meant to. Most likely there wasn’t deliberate malice behind it. I’m just blunt and focus to provide service for agreed fee without too much kiss assery. That esssstra bby  :wackogirl:

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Offline Nacholibre

Gosh, have this issue time and time again both in the prozzer mode and the vanilla mode  :D

Sorry if you felt that way, it wasn’t my intention and sometimes unfortunately can come across different to intended or meant to. Most likely there wasn’t deliberate malice behind it. I’m just blunt and focus to provide service for agreed fee without too much kiss assery. That esssstra bby  :wackogirl:

Touche
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Offline petermisc

Do you have any tangible proof to back this sweeping statement up, or are you just talking out of your arse again  :unknown:
I have already pointed to the splurge in reviews that occurred after lockdown one ended as proof of the pentup demand that a lockdown causes.  If you are going to start demanding proof, where is your tangible proof that I am wrong?  When someone has to resort to profanities, it is a sure sign that they have nothing to argue with. 

Out of the general population, the evidence shows that more have gained financially from the lockdown than have lost.  It is not unreasonable to deduce that the same applies to that slice of the population who punt.  Unless you have anything other than profanities to argue otherwise.

Offline vindici

If you are going to start demanding proof, where is your tangible proof that I am wrong?  When someone has to resort to profanities, it is a sure sign that they have nothing to argue with.

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If you assert something without evidence, then the onus is on you alone to prove it.

What can be asserted without evidence, can also be dismissed without evidence.

Offline petermisc

Overseas WGs may dip but the Eurozone isn't exactly doing great either. They can still come to the UK on holiday visas. There's also the fact than many domestic girls will join the biz as unemployment ramps up.
Agreed, foreign girls have always been able to come and work in the UK in the way you suggest.  However, although they could come, in practice not many did.  Before Poland joined us in the EU, the great majority of WGs were homegrown talent.  For the last decade or more, the majority of WGs have been from overseas, particularly Poland, Hungary and latterly Romania.  Although I have no doubt that the number of domestic girls will increase, I find it very hard to believe that is going to go anywhere near matching the loss in imported girls. 

At a time when prices are rising, those who are convinced that they are going to drop need to explain what is going to change to cause them to drop.  We are already suffering the effects of lockdown, and as far as I can see, the end of lockdown release of pentup demand is only going to make price drops less not more likely.

Offline petermisc

If you assert something without evidence, then the onus is on you alone to prove it.

What can be asserted without evidence, can also be dismissed without evidence.
Agreed, and if you read the rest of my post, you will have seen that I had already provided evidence.  If someone doesn't like the evidence, then the onus is to disprove it.

Offline chadpitt

Agreed, foreign girls have always been able to come and work in the UK in the way you suggest.  However, although they could come, in practice not many did.  Before Poland joined us in the EU, the great majority of WGs were homegrown talent.  For the last decade or more, the majority of WGs have been from overseas, particularly Poland, Hungary and latterly Romania.  Although I have no doubt that the number of domestic girls will increase, I find it very hard to believe that is going to go anywhere near matching the loss in imported girls. 

At a time when prices are rising, those who are convinced that they are going to drop need to explain what is going to change to cause them to drop.  We are already suffering the effects of lockdown, and as far as I can see, the end of lockdown release of pentup demand is only going to make price drops less not more likely.

Bruh the Bank of England already said that most people who saved up are gonna either stash it away or pay of debt. So much for pent up demand.

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Unemployment is still set to rise and that'll include some poor punters too. Right now Government is printing money to keep zombie companies afloat and save jobs. But furlough is set to expire in April and Rishi Rich wants to start taxing self employed people some more. Only some people will go bananas and go stomping and romping. The rest will either be broke as hell or lost the urge.

Offline Nacholibre

Bruh the Bank of England already said that most people who saved up are gonna either stash it away or pay of debt. So much for pent up demand.

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Unemployment is still set to rise and that'll include some poor punters too. Right now Government is printing money to keep zombie companies afloat and save jobs. But furlough is set to expire in April and Rishi Rich wants to start taxing self employed people some more. Only some people will go bananas and go stomping and romping. The rest will either be broke as hell or lost the urge.

+1

The OP market will shrink after an initial spike
I still believe you will have a top end segment for affluent OPs or still financially ok

And then a much bigger low end market

The mid market I believe will have to price realign...

For me...£80/£130 for average WG's is now taking the piss
Very very VERY few who are worth it in my opinion
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Offline estats

Do you have any tangible proof to back this sweeping statement up, or are you just talking out of your arse again  :unknown:

I do think we are starting to see very strong data that the youngest are worst hit economically in this. 16-24 year olds are 3 times more likely to be out of work than any other age group. 25-34 year olds 30% more likely to be unemployed than the next age group. They depend on jobs less secure at this time and moving forward, not to mention lost times in education for future generations.

QE pumps up values of assets, ownership of this is much more highly distributed in older people, average age ownership is now mid 30's, up from 20's just over a decade ago.

So hopefully we can agree, the under 34's are more likely to be worse off now and moving forward, than previously. And by data older (35+) people are more secure in employment and more likely to have larger assets and those are more lilkely to be supported by government policy. The data supports this.

Data on average client age is much harder to find. However, the data I can find indicates the likelyhood of purchasing some form of sexual service increases with age (around 1% under 24, up towards 10-15% 40+). A canadian study also indicated 70% of clients had a college or degree education. So again the evidence does suggest the average client profile is older and most likely from a professional background or secure employment.

So I do think we are seeing evidence the average client, who is older, is more likely to have assets and a secure employment position, now and moving forward, and we can start to draw a conclusion demand in the market will hold stable as and when we normalise society. Demand is much more likely to weaken in those areas that depend on income from lower age groups, nightclubs, for example.


Offline petermisc

+1
The OP market will shrink after an initial spike
I still believe you will have a top end segment for affluent OPs or still financially ok
And then a much bigger low end market
The mid market I believe will have to price realign...
For me...£80/£130 for average WG's is now taking the piss
Very very VERY few who are worth it in my opinion
Agree with all you say. 

While I agree that there is going to be an increased lower end demand, I think the problem will be with the supply.  We have relied very much on Roms and Brazilians to supply the lower end of the market.  I think those currently working are those who chose to stay here and sit out the lockdown (probably paid cash upfront to get here, and need to earn it back before they can afford to return home) but eventually many are going to return home.  Who is going to replace them?  I doubt that the strict border controls are going to be relaxed anytime soon.  There will likely be extra homegrown talent, but they have traditionally filled the middle to upper price ground.  I doubt that there will be many willing to accept Rom prices.

I agree about the rise in prices.  Just like I am never going to pay £1 for a single cup-cake no matter how tasty it might look, there are price levels for punting that just go against the grain.  However, I am beginning to feel a bit like the elephant watching the watering hole steadily drying up.  There are steadily fewer SPs in my price range that I consider worth seeing, and West Mids in particular is very dry at present.