Have you ever caught anything?

[winkywanky]

25yrs of punting, on and off.

Twice I've had a gonorrhoea scare. On both occasions the WG concerned informed me immediately they realised they had a problem (one was symptom-free but had a positive result from a routine test, the other had developed symptoms between regular tests).

On both occasions I immediately got tested but proved to be negative.

[Marsh Mitch]

Some women in FBSM massage parlours don’t clean themselves after a session. The men’s liquid particles from penis are left on the body even after a little wash with water when doing a B2B.

This is what I suffered from a Thai lady I liked. With the same body she plays on your little Johnny ... it itched very bad for a week. That is all I ever had. Nothing nasty so far.

[winkywanky]

Some women in FBSM massage parlours don’t clean themselves after a session. The men’s liquid particles from penis are left on the body even after a little wash with water when doing a B2B.

This is what I suffered from a Thai lady I liked. With the same body she plays on your little Johnny ... it itched very bad for a week. That is all I ever had. Nothing nasty so far.

What did you actually catch?

[Marsh Mitch]

What did you actually catch?

I didn’t go for any inspection with sexual health clinic to conclude what it is about but this is the closest to something I have nearly caught but surely it was from the B2B massage. Since then I always ask the girls to take bath before B2B or I wear a condom myself.

[winkywanky]

I didn’t go for any inspection with sexual health clinic to conclude what it is about but this is the closest to something I have nearly caught but surely it was from the B2B massage. Since then I always ask the girls to take bath before B2B or I wear a condom myself.

You had an itchy cock for a week after seeing a girl for body to body, and you didn't get it checked out?

You may indeed have caught something 

[Marsh Mitch]

You had an itchy cock for a week after seeing a girl for body to body, and you didn't get it checked out?

You may indeed have caught something 

It didn’t ring to my mind then. Recently all my tests came negative after an encounter I had 4 months ago. All good now.

[LLPunting]

You had an itchy cock for a week after seeing a girl for body to body, and you didn't get it checked out?

You may indeed have caught something 

Or he could have had a reaction to a new soap or just been washing his dick too much.   

[LLPunting]

It didn’t ring to my mind then. Recently all my tests came negative after an encounter I had 4 months ago. All good now.

This isn't the Thai girl you're talking about so you had a meet with someone else, and what made you go to the clinic this time?

[winkywanky]

Or he could have had a reaction to a new soap or just been washing his dick too much.   

True, but it coincided with his B-to-B visit.

[LLPunting]

True, but it coincided with his B-to-B visit.

Never come away from a meet and couldn't wash the stink or guilt or shame off yourself no matter how long you spent in the bath/shower?

[Marsh Mitch]

Or he could have had a reaction to a new soap or just been washing his dick too much.   

Haha No .....

[winkywanky]

Never come away from a meet and couldn't wash the stink or guilt or shame off yourself no matter how long you spent in the bath/shower?

There was one such occasion, and I believe I documented it in great detail in the smelly fanny thread a few weeks ago.

The girl's fanny was indescribably fetid, it was as if something had crawled up there and died. I guess vaginosis? Luckily the only part of me to come into direct contact with it was two fingers on my right hand, but I kid you not, however hard I scrubbed with scented soap when I got home, it took two whole days to totally get rid of it  .

[Longshot]

Trichomoniasis recently off a wg I saw

Has this one too.  No ill effects for men but can be serious to women if you pass it on to your OH.

[holeymoley]

from a wg? perhaps some thrush from owo, but i snogged her too plenty and my mouth didnt go icky...

from a handful of civvies, chylmidia, UTI and a gentile wart in my pee hole, from the same girl the last two. i tend to spray abit when i piss now  from when they froze it off.

oh and ive had smell transfered onto me too. which isnt good when thats not a pleasent smell... (also from civvie)

Excuse my ignorance but what is “ smell “ transfer, I’m assuming it’s not perfume...............

[myothernameis]

Excuse my ignorance but what is “ smell “ transfer, I’m assuming it’s not perfume...............

A really smelly pussy, or very bad BO

[holeymoley]

A really smelly pussy, or very bad BO

 

[markballoon]

I got really smelly fingers one time.  I had a can of aerosol de-icer in my car so I sprayed it on my hands.  The smell soon went

[WASA38]

There was one such occasion, and I believe I documented it in great detail in the smelly fanny thread a few weeks ago.

The girl's fanny was indescribably fetid, it was as if something had crawled up there and died. I guess vaginosis? Luckily the only part of me to come into direct contact with it was two fingers on my right hand, but I kid you not, however hard I scrubbed with scented soap when I got home, it took two whole days to totally get rid of it  .

In my experience the most effective way to eliminate bad bio-odours from the fingers is to wash hands with soap in warm water containing a little hypochlorite bleach. 1% is strong enough. Then rinse with clean water..

[Paris69]

If you're not being screened for HIV every say 6 months as a matter of course whilst punting then you need to do more than "get a test" when a girl tells you "you need an AIDS test".  Go read up on HIV, how soon it might take to manifest and how long it can take for you to test positive.  "One and done" does not clear you.  Fingers crossed you are indeed clear.

Thanks for the advice.
I didn't just get one test then all is okay......  My posts, on most subjects tbh are detail light - they are more of an outline; so anyone reading them fills in gaps which aren't there.

But genuinely, thanks anyway...   

[CV31Lad]

Perhaps someone could help, met a girl off Tinder a while back, shagged on our second 'date' which is a huge result for me lol, but a short time after I noticed a small scab like thing on my dick. Since then it has healed to some degree. Not sure if this is an STI or what?

[cotton]

I got really smelly fingers one time.  I had a can of aerosol de-icer in my car so I sprayed it on my hands.  The smell soon went

I dont really get the whole anti pussy smell vibe , i like the smell of pussy and for me driving home with the smell of pussy on your fingers sets you up for a great post punt wank , but if de-icer floats your boat so be it 

[daviemac]

I dont really get the whole anti pussy smell vibe , i like the smell of pussy and for me driving home with the smell of pussy on your fingers sets you up for a great post punt wank , but if de-icer floats your boat so be it 

There's a whole world of difference between the arousing natural smell of a pussy and the fishy smell with BV. But If that's what does it for you fair dos.

[winkywanky]

Perhaps someone could help, met a girl off Tinder a while back, shagged on our second 'date' which is a huge result for me lol, but a short time after I noticed a small scab like thing on my dick. Since then it has healed to some degree. Not sure if this is an STI or what?

Firstly, I hope you haven't fucked anyone since you first became aware of your scabby nob, secondly, you need to get tested asap.

Is it still there, to some degree? In any case you should get a check at a GUM clinic. It might be a genital wart, it might be something else. But you should get checked.

And if you do have something, anyone you fucked after your Tinder date needs to hear from you, as well as your Tinder date herself.

[cotton]

There's a whole world of difference between the arousing natural smell of a pussy and the fishy smell with BV. But If that's what does it for you fair dos.

If we imagine there is a range of smells from perfect clean natural smell to completely gross at the other end i think i must err towards liking a wider range than alot of memebers cos ive smelt hundreds of pussies and only twice has the smell been so overwhelming that ive been put off,  Having said that ive not smelt any pussy that smells like fish and i can appreciate just the thought of that sounds revolting , so maybe ive just been lucky.  Ive smelt pussy that barely smells at all which id guess you might equate to clean natural pussy and ive also smelt pussy that has quite a rich aromatic , almost sweet salty smell which personally i dont object to , ok i like it 
Even the 2 pussies that i had to retreat from i didnt think the smell was unpleasant as such , just too strong.

[CV31Lad]

Firstly, I hope you haven't fucked anyone since you first became aware of your scabby nob, secondly, you need to get tested asap.

Is it still there, to some degree? In any case you should get a check at a GUM clinic. It might be a genital wart, it might be something else. But you should get checked.

And if you do have something, anyone you fucked after your Tinder date needs to hear from you, as well as your Tinder date herself.

Thanks for the advice pal, it's more a very small scar now than a scab but it did cause some concern. The girl herself claimed not to have had sex for about a year so unlikely she has anything but you're right it's better to be safe than sorry. This forum offers up some very good advice as its not the kind of thing you would tell a mate!

[winkywanky]

Thanks for the advice pal, it's more a very small scar now than a scab but it did cause some concern. The girl herself claimed not to have had sex for about a year so unlikely she has anything but you're right it's better to be safe than sorry. This forum offers up some very good advice as its not the kind of thing you would tell a mate!

I would suggest do not believe something a random girl off Tinder says to you (any more than she should believe anything a random guy says to her).

You are responsible for your own sexual health, so developing a scab on your nob after what is essentially random sex should see you straight on the phone to make a GUM appointment.

You should still get checked even now, whatever caused the scab is liable to still be in your body, ready to pass on to someone else. I don't really know how to say it any more clearly, you should go get yourself checked  .

[norwichfunseeker]

Excellent advice WW, There is absolutely no substitute for professional medial opinion.

I have recently been checked out during lock down, and was all clear. However they did pick up something else, that they referred me to my GPs for (they gave me a letter for my GP to give details too). The GP appointment has resulted in a hospital referral.

So not picked anything up from punting- but its essential to get checked out. Properly.

The postal kits are great, but can only be used if you're symptom free, is my understanding.

Stay safe   

[signy]

It has been said many times here, but worth reiterating. UK GUM clinics are incredibly professional and non-judgmental. You might be worried about the outcome, but you should never be worried or hesitant about visiting and getting checked.

[norwichfunseeker]

funny isnt it - we will quite happily get our bits out in front of an unknown SP, and even pay for the pleasure, but some seem reluctant at the GUM clinics, infront of trained professionals! 

[LLPunting]

funny isnt it - we will quite happily get our bits out in front of an unknown SP, and even pay for the pleasure, but some seem reluctant at the GUM clinics, infront of trained professionals!

"Problem" is being on your best form is frowned upon at GUMs and they always keep the magnifier I bring when I'm not.

[norwichfunseeker]

you could always tell them its 'swollen'

[LLPunting]

you could always tell them its 'swollen'

"It just won't go down nurse, no matter how much I try to relieve it."

"Would you like me to fetch Hector, our care assistant?  He's very good at that."

"Oh!  You're a genius miss, look, it's getting smaller already!"

[aaron010]

Just booked a home test kit after reading some of the comments 

If the SP takes prep (for HIV) does that not cover the punter as well? As she would not be infected - she then cannot transfer the virus to another person?

I always ensure I am wrapped but, met this Thai woman a couple of months back (not reviewed - not worth it) and she was grinding on my little fella while giving a B2B. Occasionally her bits were fresh on my bits. Was not thinking clearly at that time and now I am paranoid that I might have caught something. Oh ffs...

[cotton]

Just booked a home test kit after reading some of the comments 

If the SP takes prep (for HIV) does that not cover the punter as well? As she would not be infected - she then cannot transfer the virus to another person?

I always ensure I am wrapped but, met this Thai woman a couple of months back (not reviewed - not worth it) and she was grinding on my little fella while giving a B2B. Occasionally her bits were fresh on my bits. Was not thinking clearly at that time and now I am paranoid that I might have caught something. Oh ffs...

Correct if someone is on prep then they cannot transmit hiv if they themselves are hiv+ve , or if they are hiv -ve then they are protected against catching the virus of someone who is hiv+ve.
Getting tested once in a while is a good idea for your peace of mind , more for things other than hiv , everything 

[daviemac]

Just booked a home test kit after reading some of the comments 

If the SP takes prep (for HIV) does that not cover the punter as well? As she would not be infected - she then cannot transfer the virus to another person?

I always ensure I am wrapped but, met this Thai woman a couple of months back (not reviewed - not worth it) and she was grinding on my little fella while giving a B2B. Occasionally her bits were fresh on my bits. Was not thinking clearly at that time and now I am paranoid that I might have caught something. Oh ffs...

Why not? reviews are what the site is all about. What make you think reviews aren't worth it.   

[mightymunce]

I've had a couple of experiences of a broken condom and nothing adverse arose then. The first time I was more shocked to see what looked like a garden slug as I withdrew. The lady knew exactly what it was and reassured me.

Also I confess there was a time when I revisited a woman after a break of several years and we were both so glad to see each other that neither of us realized that I'd slid into her uncovered.
(At least I didn't realize and she never protested). When after 15 minutes or so of thrusting I suddenly realized I'd not rubber-ed up I apologized wholeheartedly. But she was very good about it and we continued but not to completion.

So far I've not had any problems thank goodness.

I've had a skin tab taken off my willy and I've an encapsulated cyst on my scroat which is totally benign, Neither are attributed to sexual congress with anyone but I am always very careful.

Garden slug WTF?

[Hungarian Lover]

Seeing as some of us are being honest on here goes, I caught a dose of Gonorrhea from one of my earlier punts  I had no symptoms but they showed up on my next clinic test and from memory i was given a large pill and a jab. As on all my punts I always take my own condoms (so far most but not all girls let me use them) so the only way
 I imagine I caught this was from oral sex on the girl. This was in the early days of my punting life, the main things I looked for in the girls profiles were- young, Hungarian and with long black hair, obviously can't check now who was doing BB or not so I admit that I didn't look as to whether they offered BB as I didn't think at the time that it was an issue as I supplied condoms. I think I visited her twice and her mate twice and with hindsight I think there were signs that they were doing BB before returning home. Her mate on my second visit said she wasn't feeling to well (but could have been other woman issues) but when I was with the first girl the Lisa there was no mention of condoms but I had my own supply so didn't think twice about that. This is going back to early days in 2014, since then I don't remember going down on any escort girls and unlikely to do so, I do enjoy doing oral on a girl but unless I'm ever in a steady relationship, unlikely at my old age then never. I've been to the STI clinic for check ups many times since, all clear. So that's sixty old punts so far and maybe because a lot of the girls are not what you would say are upmarket escorts that maybe I should stump up more cash in the future for a better class of escorts although whether that would make them any cleaner or not is debatable.

Removed as per rule #25.

[winkywanky]

Just booked a home test kit after reading some of the comments 

If the SP takes prep (for HIV) does that not cover the punter as well? As she would not be infected - she then cannot transfer the virus to another person?

I always ensure I am wrapped but, met this Thai woman a couple of months back (not reviewed - not worth it) and she was grinding on my little fella while giving a B2B. Occasionally her bits were fresh on my bits. Was not thinking clearly at that time and now I am paranoid that I might have caught something. Oh ffs...

If she takes Prep regularly and exactly as she should then yes, you are also protected.

But why would you trust someone you don't know, if they tell you they're on Prep? On a paid-sex encounter, where you're likely to never see her again?

On a punt YOU are responsible for doing all you can to protect yourself, no one else 

In any case, Prep only protects from HIV, and statistically you're far more likely to catch some other STI like gonorrhoea or chlamydia.

[Hungarian Lover]

Sorry, 50 odd. 

[Doc Holliday]

Correct if someone is on prep then they cannot transmit hiv if they themselves are hiv+ve , or if they are hiv -ve then they are protected against catching the virus of someone who is hiv+ve.
Getting tested once in a while is a good idea for your peace of mind , more for things other than hiv , everything 

No that's not correct. PrEP is an antiviral drug regime intended to be taken by HIV negative people to protect them should they come into contact with someone who is HIV positive. If someone is diagnosed HIV positive they will not be following a PrEP regime, but a different drug regime to reduce their viral load even though both regimes may share some of the same medication types.

If you are having sex with someone who is HIV positive you would need to be the person using PrEP as prophylaxis or maybe PeP if knowingly exposed to someone who is HIV positive.

If the person who is HIV positive has successfully reduced their viral load with antiviral medication then the chances of transmission are also extremely low but this may take many months of treatment to occur.

Also you can never use the expression 'cannot transmit'. Prep has proved highly effective, but is very dependent on strictly following the regime especially in women. Even then it is not 100%. If the regime is not closely adhered to this effectiveness may drop down to as low as 80%.

This is why regular testing for your HIV status is so important if you are engaging in high risk sexual activity.

[Doc Holliday]

But why would you trust someone you don't know, if they tell you they're on Prep? On a paid-sex encounter, where you're likely to never see her again?

On a punt YOU are responsible for doing all you can to protect yourself, no one else 

Yes if you are going to engage in high risk sexual activity with a stranger you would need to consider PrEP for yourself. In line with my previous post her status is unknown irrespective of her declaring she follows a PrEP regime.

[winkywanky]

Yes if you are going to engage in high risk sexual activity with a stranger you would need to consider PrEP for yourself. In line with my previous post her status is unknown irrespective of her declaring she follows a PrEP regime.

Thanks for your above clarification Doc, about Prep only really reliably protecting the person who actually takes it, not necessarily their sexual partner.

And in general, certainly amongst the Gay community, plus the TS community which is effectively within the perimeter of that in terms of anal sex and HIV risk, there is this over-reliance on Prep as if it in some way protects you from all STIs. It most certainly does not of course, and although HIV is seen as the lifelong affliction (which it pretty well is), nevertheless gonorrhoea, syphilis, chalmydia, genital warts and all the rest are not only unaffected by Prep in terms of transmission, the over-reliance on Prep as some kind of panacea leads to a sense of 'safe barebacking' for many which is very far from reality. Some strains of these other diseaes are becoming antibiotic-resistant which is a very serious state of affairs.

[cotton]

No that's not correct. PrEP is an antiviral drug regime intended to be taken by HIV negative people to protect them should they come into contact with someone who is HIV positive. If someone is diagnosed HIV positive they will not be following a PrEP regime, but a different drug regime to reduce their viral load even though both regimes may share some of the same medication types.

If you are having sex with someone who is HIV positive you would need to be the person using PrEP as prophylaxis or maybe PeP if knowingly exposed to someone who is HIV positive.

If the person who is HIV positive has successfully reduced their viral load with antiviral medication then the chances of transmission are also extremely low but this may take many months of treatment to occur.

Also you can never use the expression 'cannot transmit'. Prep has proved highly effective, but is very dependent on strictly following the regime especially in women. Even then it is not 100%. If the regime is not closely adhered to this effectiveness may drop down to as low as 80%.

This is why regular testing for your HIV status is so important if you are engaging in high risk sexual activity.

Yeh doc , i was using PREP as a generic term for hiv meds generally , but yeh your obviously correct that while the drugs used are the same the regimes and nemenclature will be diferent.
Basically my understanding of hiv drugs/PREP is
If taken by someone who is hiv -ve as prep it protects against becoming infected.
If taken by someone who is hiv +ve as hiv meds it protects against transmission.

[winkywanky]

Yeh doc , i was using PREP as a generic term for hiv meds generally , but yeh your obviously correct that while the drugs used are the same the regimes and nemenclature will be diferent.
Basically my understanding of hiv drugs/PREP is
If taken by someone who is hiv -ve as prep it protects against becoming infected.
If taken by someone who is hiv +ve as hiv meds it protects against transmission.

I don't think that's correct? 

I did a Google search and couldn't find anything to that effect. If you already have HIV then taking antiretroviral drugs is the only way that I could find to reduce your viral load to indetectable (and therefore untransmissible). Prep won't do that.

[cotton]

I don't think that's correct? 

I did a Google search and couldn't find anything to that effect. If you already have HIV then taking antiretroviral drugs is the only way that I could find to reduce your viral load to indetectable (and therefore untransmissible). Prep won't do that.

The drugs used in prep and hiv meds are the same.
So my understanding of the drugs used in the diferent regimes is ;
If taken by someone who is hiv -ve as prep it protects against becoming infected.
If taken by someone who is hiv +ve as hiv meds it protects against transmission. (antiretroviral hiv drugs if you prefer)

[winkywanky]

The drugs used in prep and hiv meds are the same.
So my understanding of the drugs used in the diferent regimes is ;
If taken by someone who is hiv -ve as prep it protects against becoming infected.
If taken by someone who is hiv +ve as hiv meds it protects against transmission. (antiretroviral hiv drugs if you prefer)

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Seems you are right in that Prep contains two antiretroviral drugs which have been used previously to treat people who have HIV  .

Whether they are in the same amount/combination as medication which someone with existing HIV would take to reduce their viral load, I don't know?

Perhaps drugs for the two separate applications are effectively exactly the same and simply labelled differently, but do you know for sure?

[cotton]

^ Yeh i was using prep as a catch-all term for hiv drug meds generally and the doc correctly pointed out that someone who is hiv +ve wont be on the "drugs" in the manifestation known as PREP , they will be on a manifrstation of the drugs in the form administered to hiv +ve patients.
So basically as per my original post if someone is on hiv meds then they cannot transmit hiv if they themselves are hiv+ve (assuming their viral load is undetectable), or if they are hiv -ve then they are protected against catching the virus of someone who is hiv+ve. (Using hiv meds for the catch all term for hiv meds.)

[Doc Holliday]

The drugs used in prep and hiv meds are the same.
So my understanding of the drugs used in the diferent regimes is ;
If taken by someone who is hiv -ve as prep it protects against becoming infected.
If taken by someone who is hiv +ve as hiv meds it protects against transmission. (antiretroviral hiv drugs if you prefer)

No that's an oversimplification. Firstly let me clarify we are talking about low risk levels.

Let’s assume that person A is engaging in frequent high risk sexual activity and therefore taking PrEP. (this will be a daily dose combination of tenofovir and emtricitabine which are two of the drugs which may be used to treat HIV).

Lets assume that unfortunately they are either unlucky or don’t take it properly and they become HIV+. Until they are tested they will not know of such and therefore pose a risk to person B unless person B is also taking PrEP to reduce their personal risk. The PrEP regime of person A is no longer relevant in terms of protecting B.

Once tested positive you would assume person A stops unsafe sex (at the very least) and begins a full blown antiretroviral treatment (ART) which can be quite a complex cocktail in comparison to PrEP and tailored to an individual. ART is a highly specialised field of medicine. If and when the treatment proves successful and the viral load is almost entirely suppressed, that person would then pose an extremely low risk to others. That can take some time.

It is that period when the PrEP has failed to protect A, but they are unaware they have become HIV+, that person A is a risk to person B, as neither A or B is aware of A’s HIV status. Hence if you are regularly practicing very high risk sexual activity for everyone's benefit very frequent testing of HIV status is needed.

[daviemac]

Can I just remind people by all means say what you have caught but do not name the person you think you may have caught it from.

25 Allegations of sexually transmitted diseases
Past incidents have shown such extreme and damaging allegations to be malicious and from troublemakers. Therefore, it is generally not acceptable to make such allegations against others.

[cotton]

No that's an oversimplification. Firstly let me clarify we are talking about low risk levels.

Let’s assume that person A is engaging in frequent high risk sexual activity and therefore taking PrEP. (this will be a daily dose combination of tenofovir and emtricitabine which are two of the drugs which may be used to treat HIV).

Lets assume that unfortunately they are either unlucky or don’t take it properly and they become HIV+. Until they are tested they will not know of such and therefore pose a risk to person B unless person B is also taking PrEP to reduce their personal risk. The PrEP regime of person A is no longer relevant in terms of protecting B.

Once tested positive you would assume person A stops unsafe sex (at the very least) and begins a full blown antiretroviral treatment (ART) which can be quite a complex cocktail in comparison to PrEP and tailored to an individual. ART is a highly specialised field of medicine. If and when the treatment proves successful and the viral load is almost entirely suppressed, that person would then pose an extremely low risk to others. That can take some time.

It is that period when the PrEP has failed to protect A, but they are unaware they have become HIV+, that person A is a risk to person B, as neither A or B is aware of A’s HIV status. Hence if you are regularly practicing very high risk sexual activity for everyone's benefit very frequent testing of HIV status is needed.

Yeh im sure its possible to write a medical thesis on ifs and buts and i dont dispute what a highly specialised field of medicine it is and thats all very impressive , but that isnt what i was trying to do , i was just saying in the simplest terms that hiv meds protect both a hiv -ve person from becoming infected and a hiv +ve person from infecting others.