I know piss is piss , why would it not be, you can believe what ever you like, no problem there, but like others , what ever it may be , I and others enjoy it, just like when the s p’s tell you how great you are, it’s all about the fantasy and illusion, in that moment , you believe to get off. Simple as that, we lie to ourselves, Thay lie to us, equals orgasm , that’s all it is.