Blue Pill - side effects

[shyboy1]

I’ve heard a few stories about possible problems that can crop up using Viagra/Sildenfal if you don’t need it to get an erection, anyone know if there’s anything in it?
Bit of an explanation - I use Viagra when punting as I find it helps me to last longer and recover quicker after orgasm.
I can get and maintain an erection without it but was cumming too quickly and the pill helps control that.
Can using ED drugs in this way be harmful to performance in the long term?
SB

[Home Alone]

And what do all the other threads on here about Viagra to say about that, OP?

[Pete556]

I’ve heard a few stories about possible problems that can crop up using Viagra/Sildenfal if you don’t need it to get an erection, anyone know if there’s anything in it?
Bit of an explanation - I use Viagra when punting as I find it helps me to last longer and recover quicker after orgasm.
I can get and maintain an erection without it but was cumming too quickly and the pill helps control that.
Can using ED drugs in this way be harmful to performance in the long term?
SB

Go chat through it with your doctor - don't ask for advice like this on this forum.

[Beamer]

Go chat through it with your doctor - don't ask for advice like this on this forum.

Good advice. This is a great forum but members may or may not be a medically qualified source.

[shyboy1]

And what do all the other threads on here about Viagra to say about that, OP?

Nothing about this particular point as far as I know or I wouldn’t have asked the question.

[shyboy1]

Go chat through it with your doctor - don't ask for advice like this on this forum.

I’m thinking of doing just that but there are some very knowledgeable members on here judging by some of the answers on previous threads so thought it’d be worth asking if anyone else has any experience with using the pills for this purpose.
I’ve read that other posters have experienced reduced sensitivity when taking Viagra which fits in with why it helps me last longer, but they are taking it to help achieve an erection so there  may be different longer term effects for my type of use.

[Doc Holliday]

The largest increase in sales of ED meds in recent times, has been 18 to 45 year old males where less than 10% actually have true ED compared to say over 70% of over 60s. Recreational use is massive. The psychological dependency this results in is also a major issue and is a ticking time bomb for many. I have been there myself, albeit fairly briefly and well over a decade ago, but managed to 'kick the habit'.

I know of 16 /17 year olds using it ... FFS!

Regarding reduced sensitivity and therefore lasting longer, you will find little in the scientific literature about this, but anecdotally this is very well reported. This tends to affect the first orgasm to a lesser degree but subsequent ones can be almost impossible for many despite a strong erection. This also applied to myself and was an incentive to stop using.

In short if you don't need ED meds don't use them. However there are added performance issues in punting due to fear of 'wasting your hard earned'.

[daviemac]

I’ve heard a few stories about possible problems that can crop up using Viagra/Sildenfal if you don’t need it to get an erection, anyone know if there’s anything in it?
Bit of an explanation - I use Viagra when punting as I find it helps me to last longer and recover quicker after orgasm.
I can get and maintain an erection without it but was cumming too quickly and the pill helps control that.
Can using ED drugs in this way be harmful to performance in the long term?
SB

So you are prepared to risk you health on the say so of random punters on an internet forum who claim to be informed on the subject.      Apart from anything else different people react differently to drugs, just because they work OK for one doesn't mean they will work OK for another.

The only person you should be asking is your GP, he has all your medical records in front of him.

[AnthG]

Go chat through it with your doctor - don't ask for advice like this on this forum.

Can I add an addendum to this. As you will be wasting your GPs time making an appointment just to ask this question the OP wants answered

Go and ask any local pharmacist. They would actually be a lot more skilled on the effects of drugs. It is their speciality and there are drives for simple ailments to ask your Pharmacist over going to your GP due to the shortage of GPs.

I remember one time my GP prescribed me something, and my Pharmacist actually went before giving me it, this cannot be right and phoned up my GP and got the dosage changed. The Pharmacist was right, my GP wrong.

From the NHS website

"As qualified healthcare professionals, Pharmacists can offer clinical advice and over-the-counter medicines for a range of minor illnesses, such as coughs, colds, sore throats, tummy trouble and aches and pains. If symptoms suggest it's something more serious, pharmacists have the right training to make sure you get the help you need. For example they will tell you if you need to see a GP.
All pharmacists train for 5 years in the use of medicines. They are also trained in managing minor illnesses and providing health and wellbeing advice. Many pharmacies are open until late and at weekends. You don't need an appointment – you can just walk in.

Most pharmacies have a private consultation room where you can discuss issues with pharmacy staff without being overheard."

[Doc Holliday]

So you are prepared to risk you health on the say so of random punters on an internet forum who claim to be informed on the subject.      Apart from anything else different people react differently to drugs, just because they work OK for one doesn't mean they will work OK for another.

The only person you should be asking is your GP, he has all your medical records in front of him.

Normally I would agree with you and I frequently point people in that direction, but with regard to this particular question knowing your medical history is not really that relevant. Most GP’s will be (or should be) au fait with regard to the problems of recreational use and dependency and can advise you accordingly. That said many GP’s are dishing them out like smarties, rather like they did with antidepressants in the past.

However the use of sildenafil in relation to delaying ejaculation (and possible use in PE) is a much more specialist area. I certainly knew far more about it that my GP some years ago based on scientific research of something which there isn’t much of, personal experimentation and also a huge amount of anecdotal evidence from punters on forums together with SPs, over a 15 year period which your average GP (or pharmacist) will not normally access

[daviemac]

Normally I would agree with you and I frequently point people in that direction, but with regard to this particular question knowing your medical history is not really that relevant. Most GP’s will be (or should be) au fait with regard to the problems of recreational use and dependency and can advise you accordingly. That said many GP’s are dishing them out like smarties, rather like they did with antidepressants in the past.

However the use of sildenafil in relation to delaying ejaculation (and possible use in PE) is a much more specialist area. I certainly knew far more about it that my GP some years ago based on scientific research of something which there isn’t much of, personal experimentation and also a huge amount of anecdotal evidence from punters on forums together with SPs, over a 15 year period which your average GP (or pharmacist) will not normally access

This is the problem though, I don't know you or anything about you, you might be the world leader in this field but to me you are another punter on a punting forum. If I go to my doctor I know he is qualified and I talk to him face to face. If he gets it wrong and something happens, what he has done is documented and I have some form of redress.

The main thing that my doctor has over anyone else is access to my full medical history, can you tell me what effects any drug might have on the heart condition I have.   

Each to their own but if I want medical advice I don't ask on a punting forum.

[Doc Holliday]

Each to their own but if I want medical advice I don't ask on a punting forum.

Neither do I 

[20jay]

The largest increase in sales of ED meds in recent times, has been 18 to 45 year old males where less than 10% actually have true ED compared to say over 70% of over 60s. Recreational use is massive. The psychological dependency this results in is also a major issue and is a ticking time bomb for many. I have been there myself, albeit fairly briefly and well over a decade ago, but managed to 'kick the habit'.

I know of 16 /17 year olds using it ... FFS!

Regarding reduced sensitivity and therefore lasting longer, you will find little in the scientific literature about this, but anecdotally this is very well reported. This tends to affect the first orgasm to a lesser degree but subsequent ones can be almost impossible for many despite a strong erection. This also applied to myself and was an incentive to stop using.

In short if you don't need ED meds don't use them. However there are added performance issues in punting due to fear of 'wasting your hard earned'.

OT Say Doc, can I have back your old avatar pic , because I cant stop starring those tits 

[GreyDave]

I went to my Drs a 30 something Asian girl who actual told me this was a waste of NHS time as the medication could be got from Pharmacists now after a breif check , I felt A , embaressed B, angry C worried that theconsultation would get me marked as some sort of sex pest talking about this subject with a woman half my age from a diffrent culture ,,,she really did not give a S***

So this sensible post re posted is helpful if your that concerned there are Mens clinic sites where you can book and see in person and have the health check the med records are made aware to your drs with your permission I have no underlying problems other than getting older and it helps fun days some guys it might cause problems I am rapidly approaching 60 now  I have used for 5-8 years the one thing I notice now is my recharge time 10hrs after pop  ...still able to get hard 20 mins after butto cum well thats getting difficult in same day

Taken from another contributors...

"As qualified healthcare professionals, Pharmacists can offer clinical advice and over-the-counter medicines for a range of minor illnesses, such as coughs, colds, sore throats, tummy trouble and aches and pains. If symptoms suggest it's something more serious, pharmacists have the right training to make sure you get the help you need. For example they will tell you if you need to see a GP.
All pharmacists train for 5 years in the use of medicines. They are also trained in managing minor illnesses and providing health and wellbeing advice. Many pharmacies are open until late and at weekends. You don't need an appointment – you can just walk in.

Most pharmacies have a private consultation room where you can discuss issues with pharmacy staff without being overheard."

[shyboy1]

So you are prepared to risk you health on the say so of random punters on an internet forum who claim to be informed on the subject.      Apart from anything else different people react differently to drugs, just because they work OK for one doesn't mean they will work OK for another.

The only person you should be asking is your GP, he has all your medical records in front of him.

No I’m not prepared to risk my health as I’m not a simpleton.
But also I don’t wish to waste my time or my GP’s unless I feel it’s important enough.
I was just seeking other punters experiences and opinions which could be helpful in deciding whether to bother my gp and also what questions I should be asking him.
It’s a forum, that’s what it’s for. If you haven’t an opinion or relevant info move on, why bother getting involved.
Thanks Doc for your comments, unfortunately I’m not a 16 year old but a mid 50’s Salad dodger and as you said I just felt I needed a bit of help to get the most from my punts. I will check with the GP next time I see him for something else but as I only punt about once a month I don’t think I have too much to worry about for now.
SB

[daviemac]

No I’m not prepared to risk my health as I’m not a simpleton.
But also I don’t wish to waste my time or my GP’s unless I feel it’s important enough.
I was just seeking other punters experiences and opinions which could be helpful in deciding whether to bother my gp and also what questions I should be asking him.
It’s a forum, that’s what it’s for. If you haven’t an opinion or relevant info move on, why bother getting involved.
Thanks Doc for your comments, unfortunately I’m not a 16 year old but a mid 50’s Salad dodger and as you said I just felt I needed a bit of help to get the most from my punts. I will check with the GP next time I see him for something else but as I only punt about once a month I don’t think I have too much to worry about for now.
SB

In my post I questioned your reasoning in trusting punters on a punting forum with medical advice, I pointed out that drugs affect people in different ways and that the only person you should be asking is your GP.

Can you explain how that is not an opinion and relevant to your question.     Just because it might not be what you want to hear doesn't mean it isn't relevant.

FWIW when I told my GP I had ED they did 7 different blood tests to rule out any underlying cause.

[shyboy1]

In my post I questioned your reasoning in trusting punters on a punting forum with medical advice, I pointed out that drugs affect people in different ways and that the only person you should be asking is your GP.

Can you explain how that is not an opinion and relevant to your question.     Just because it might not be what you want to hear doesn't mean it isn't relevant.

FWIW when I told my GP I had ED they did 7 different blood tests to rule out any underlying cause.

Your post was not really relevant to the subject I was asking about and neither was it a relavant opinion as I was in no way seeking a medical diagnosis. If I wanted that I would obviously see a medical professional.
In fact from what I can see your post was just an excuse for a thinly veiled insult.
 ie -  (wacko imoji)
Which I couldn’t really care less about but for the fact that it’s patronising shite like that which puts members off from sharing their opinions and experiences which kind of defeats the object of an informal information sharing forum.
SB

[shyboy1]

Can I add an addendum to this. As you will be wasting your GPs time making an appointment just to ask this question the OP wants answered

Go and ask any local pharmacist. They would actually be a lot more skilled on the effects of drugs. It is their speciality and there are drives for simple ailments to ask your Pharmacist over going to your GP due to the shortage of GPs.

I remember one time my GP prescribed me something, and my Pharmacist actually went before giving me it, this cannot be right and phoned up my GP and got the dosage changed. The Pharmacist was right, my GP wrong.


From the NHS website

"As qualified healthcare professionals, Pharmacists can offer clinical advice and over-the-counter medicines for a range of minor illnesses, such as coughs, colds, sore throats, tummy trouble and aches and pains. If symptoms suggest it's something more serious, pharmacists have the right training to make sure you get the help you need. For example they will tell you if you need to see a GP.
All pharmacists train for 5 years in the use of medicines. They are also trained in managing minor illnesses and providing health and wellbeing advice. Many pharmacies are open until late and at weekends. You don't need an appointment – you can just walk in.

Most pharmacies have a private consultation room where you can discuss issues with pharmacy staff without being overheard."

Thanks AnthG. I agree that’s a good point about pharmacists ( can’t say that word without thinking of The Fall  )
Our local one is very helpful and knows his stuff but I think I’d be more comfortable asking my GP next time I go for an appointment.   

[AnthG]

Our local one is very helpful and knows his stuff but I think I’d be more comfortable asking my GP next time I go for an appointment.   

You could as an alternative, go for a checkup at the Gum clinic. The Doctors there will know a lot more about it given it is their expertise.

Just throwing it out there.

[daviemac]

Your post was not really relevant to the subject I was asking about and neither was it a relavant opinion as I was in no way seeking a medical diagnosis. If I wanted that I would obviously see a medical professional.
In fact from what I can see your post was just an excuse for a thinly veiled insult.
 ie -  (wacko imoji)
Which I couldn’t really care less about but for the fact that it’s patronising shite like that which puts members off from sharing their opinions and experiences which kind of defeats the object of an informal information sharing forum.
SB

I stand by what I said, in my opinion anyone who asks for advice on medical matters on a punting forum is an idiot. (asking 'Can using ED drugs in this way be harmful to performance in the long term?' is seeking medical advice).

It's a known fact medication can affect different people in different ways and the best people to ask about such matters are medical professionals.

[Winker121]

You could as an alternative, go for a checkup at the Gum clinic. The Doctors there will know a lot more about it given it is their expertise.

Just throwing it out there.

Useful suggestion!

[Doc Holliday]

You could as an alternative, go for a checkup at the Gum clinic. The Doctors there will know a lot more about it given it is their expertise.

Just throwing it out there.

Actually no .. their expertise is Genitourinary medicine with a large emphasis on venereology. ED is one of those branches of medicine/surgery (of which there are many) which has some overlap and a degree of 'competition' by consultants. Some GUM consultants and clinics have ED as a sub speciality, but the normal referral pathway from a GP for ED would be a consultant urologist. If you are attending for an STI screening the GUM clinic will deal with that alone and will generally be reluctant to discuss erectile dysfunction advising instead that you should seek an appropriate referral pathway.

[Gordon Bennett]

Don't pills, tablets and medicines normally come with a very lengthy and comprehensive instruction and information leaflet? Might be worth reading it to see what it says.

[Doc Holliday]

Don't pills, tablets and medicines normally come with a very lengthy and comprehensive instruction and information leaflet? Might be worth reading it to see what it says.

They do indeed but it won't answer the specific questions raised in the OP.

External Link/Members Only

[winkywanky]

I went to my Drs a 30 something Asian girl who actual told me this was a waste of NHS time as the medication could be got from Pharmacists now after a breif check , I felt A , embaressed B, angry C worried that theconsultation would get me marked as some sort of sex pest talking about this subject with a woman half my age from a diffrent culture ,,,she really did not give a S***

That is absolutely fucking appalling, and if the boot were on the other foot you'd be reporting her for ageism or racism, or both.

She's is bang out of order for talking to you like that. Disgraceful.

[millbush]

If you cum too quickly take Priligy,worth every penny.

[GingerNuts]

If you cum too quickly take Priligy,worth every penny.

Medice, cura te ipsum.

[OakTree]

I use a very low dose as insurance 25mg cut in half and the only side effect I get is a headache later in the day.

I'm actually thinking of not bothering with them anymore because of that.

[Strawberry]

That is absolutely fucking appalling, and if the boot were on the other foot you'd be reporting her for ageism or racism, or both.

She's is bang out of order for talking to you like that. Disgraceful.

I don't think this is reserved to punters and ED medications, female relative in an older age range was advised she could save the NHS some money by buying prescribed items on the high street.

[smellychip]

To answer your question, I get a) thirsty, and b) a light headache which kicks in a few hours later but is manageable. Occasionally I also get a little flushed/warm but again that last for a couple of hours or so

[millbush]

Medice, cura te ipsum.

For £10 a pill I'd rather not cure myself.

[GingerNuts]

For £10 a pill I'd rather not cure myself.

And I doubt very much you're a physician and yet you're "prescribing" drugs.

[millbush]

And I doubt very much you're a physician and yet you're "prescribing" drugs.

Not sure what the point of your post is I'm not prescibing anything,I am a doctor though so can prescribe drugs.

[GingerNuts]

Not sure what the point of your post is I'm not prescibing anything,I am a doctor though so can prescribe drugs.

You're posting on a forum recommending a drug to all and sundry regardless of the cause of their problem or medical history.

If you really are a doctor I imagine this could get you into some professional difficulty.

[millbush]

You're posting on a forum recommending a drug to all and sundry regardless of the cause of their problem or medical history.

If you really are a doctor I imagine this could get you into some professional difficulty.

FYI drugs are not administered by me or any other registered bodies without a consultation,I've recommended a treatment that is all,if you had a headache I might suggest paracetamol.
Can't see why you are making an issue.

[daviemac]

FYI drugs are not administered by me or any other registered bodies without a consultation,I've recommended a treatment that is all,if you had a headache I might suggest paracetamol.
Can't see why you are making an issue.

You're suggesting a drug without giving any indication of usage, side effects or who can or can't take it and you say you are a doctor, yeah right.

For anyone thinking of just getting it from the internet this might be useful.

 

Most adult men can take Priligy, however it's not recommended for men over 65 years of age because its safety and effectiveness haven't been studied in this age group.

Priligy is not suitable for:

People with significant heart problems, such as heart failure, heart valve problems, heart block, sick sinus syndrome, angina or a history of heart attack.

And I get criticised for pointing out the folly of asking for medical advice on here.

[GingerNuts]

FYI drugs are not administered by me or any other registered bodies without a consultation,I've recommended a treatment that is all,if you had a headache I might suggest paracetamol.
Can't see why you are making an issue.

What daviemac said.

If you're a doctor the GMC would have a field day with you for giving medical advice on a forum.

[maxxblue]

Not sure what the point of your post is I'm not prescibing anything,I am a doctor though so can prescribe drugs.

Not another Walter Fucking Mitty 

[shyboy1]

I use a very low dose as insurance 25mg cut in half and the only side effect I get is a headache later in the day.

I'm actually thinking of not bothering with them anymore because of that.

Thanks Oaktree. I might give that a try.
I find a 25mg pill is still working well into the next day so half a pill might be a better option 

[shyboy1]

You're suggesting a drug without giving any indication of usage, side effects or who can or can't take it and you say you are a doctor, yeah right.

For anyone thinking of just getting it from the internet this might be useful.

 
And I get criticised for pointing out the folly of asking for medical advice on here.

But I didn’t take that suggestion from millbush as him prescribing or diagnosing anything, just a helpful suggestion of something he finds useful that I can look into and check out myself if I think it might help.
However in my case I would never consider taking any form of drug or pill or potion that wasn’t prescribed or recommended by my GP.  But all this info and the suggestions from members gives me more options that I can discuss with him if the time comes.

[shyboy1]

If you cum too quickly take Priligy,worth every penny.

Thanks millbush. Not heard of that one, I’ll do a bit of research on that 

[millbush]

Thanks millbush. Not heard of that one, I’ll do a bit of research on that 

Your GP should be able to prescribe it,PE is what Priligy is manufactured for.

[GingerNuts]

But I didn’t take that suggestion from millbush as him prescribing or diagnosing anything, just a helpful suggestion of something he finds useful that I can look into and check out myself if I think it might help.

How can you read his post that way? He made an unqualified statement; medical advice plain and simple.

If you cum too quickly take Priligy,worth every penny.

[GingerNuts]

Your GP should be able to prescribe it,PE is what Priligy is manufactured for.

Have you been prescribed it?

[king tarzan]

I got a sinus infection using this shit.

[waynekerr600]

That is absolutely fucking appalling, and if the boot were on the other foot you'd be reporting her for ageism or racism, or both.

She's is bang out of order for talking to you like that. Disgraceful.

Completely agree. Piss poor GP. She could easily have helped. I would have complained.

[20jay]

I got a sinus infection using this shit.

.... sinus infection caused on viagra ? Okay i don't use it but I can't imagine that . Probably this girl infected you.

[guymids-72]

I’ve heard a few stories about possible problems that can crop up using Viagra/Sildenfal if you don’t need it to get an erection, anyone know if there’s anything in it?
Bit of an explanation - I use Viagra when punting as I find it helps me to last longer and recover quicker after orgasm.
I can get and maintain an erection without it but was cumming too quickly and the pill helps control that.
Can using ED drugs in this way be harmful to performance in the long term?
SB

I use Viagra as a "insurance policy" after one punt where I struggled to get up for a second pop.
Stuffed up nose and slight headache are the worst symptoms I've had.

[Strawberry]

.... sinus infection caused on viagra ? Okay i don't use it but I can't imagine that . Probably this girl infected you.

Some users tell me they get a stuffy nose, experience sinus congestion as a side effect. OK not an infection but still an effect.

[daviemac]

Your GP should be able to prescribe it,PE is what Priligy is manufactured for.

With you being a doctor can you give me an idea of the consequences of someone taking this after buying it online, (presuming they are one of many who don't bother reading the small print) and have a quite serious heart condition.     

I have just checked and all you do is tick a few boxes, tell a few lies (like many have done to buy sildenafil) and you have it.