How long was it from "natural" performance to needing the little blue pill?

[southcoastpunter]

A question please to guys that take the little blue pill because they need to, to get an erection as opposed to "helping to last longer etc...... How long was it for you between being "all ok" and needing some help?

I am now just in my 60's and 4 weeks ago I would have said - "never taken it and never had any need to. Everything always worked well,  no problems". However in the last 4 weeks, out of 4 attempts with a lady, i have had one partial success but 3 failures.

Can the need for "assistance" come on that fast? It that "normal"? How long was it for you from "everything ok" to "needing help"?

Any comments appreciated.

[Gustav Klimt]

I started to take the little blue pill when I was 64. The problem gradually got worse over 18 months. Started to have a problem with 1 in 4 punts to eventually 3 in 4. At first I could still get it up, but the problem was maintaining it. Final straw for me was when I was with a regular who I'd never had a problem with, but this time I just couldn't get up. She tried every trick in the book to help me, but to no avail. I'm sure that part of my problem was psychological in that after the first time it was always at the back of my mind. GP thought the same because in my blood test my testosterone level was still high. Been taking it now for 2 years with 100% success. Book an appointment with your GP & get it checked out. Mine was extremely helpful & gave me plenty of advice.

[signy]

Problem is that there is also a psychological aspect. You struggle to get an erection during a punt; next time you worry about it and so it gets worse. In this case, you will often find it relatively easy to get/maintain an erection when wanking, but struggle with an escort. It is like having first time nerves all over again, but every time.

That's how it started for me, and I found that the blue pill helped with that as well. Sort of, I have taken the blue pill, so I must be able to get a good erection, and lo and behold...

[willie loman]

so many men on here seem to think that taking viagra is a sign of failure, but its actually quite good for your health in general, google it. i am 63, and have been taking it for 15 years, read an article by an urologist who took one every day even if he wasnt having a sexual encounter.

[GreyDave]

so many men on here seem to think that taking viagra is a sign of failure, but its actually quite good for your health in general, google it. i am 63, and have been taking it for 15 years, read an article by an urologist who took one every day even if he wasnt having a sexual encounter.

  This might well be antedotal ... I used 25mg -30mg to start with once or 2 a week I experianced difficulty peeing ie interrupted flow  needing to go frequently and at night my cum shot is a drop or two    I found on a few occassions I was not getting the lasting hard on and un wisely started mixing Tadafil daily and poping 30mg  ( I brought 100mgs and split them ) before punts until eariler in the year before lock down or was it last year??? grey moment I got the shite scared outta me I thought I was having a heart attack and felt dredful I wrote on hear about it it was a soho I did...

Anyways now I take 50mg half a 100mg pill with a pint of water over 10 mins about 2hrs before punt or indeed shagging OH I try to have a light meal 2hrs before I avoid chesee alcholic drinks and fatty stuff result stiff nes of savoly achived after 5mins to get up and the iron bar 4-5mins into performance The Cum shot is still a dribble but the feeling is shaking and convulising requiring a day to be able to cum again     BEST THING IVE NOTICED is this and the freeflow of my pee again  I cant tell you how uncomfatable it was standing and the flow being weak and wanting to push it out    also I am mild astmatic  ... Christ  after 2hrs the effect it has on my breathing is like eating a Foxes Glacier Mint its just huge glups of fresh air I am tempted to say almost as good as an orgasam ( I think the Astmatic guys on here will know that feeling its better than the Ventolin puffer  age wise I started taking the blue pill occasional 10 years ago for the added performance it gave me as a 50 year old the 1st punt I did with it was the WG who recomended useing it for anal was Lisa ff ..I can still remember that Mirrored room and the postions I fucked JT`s Mum in  from that moment I was sold on the stuff  Kamagra jells were I good but gave me a hell of a head ache ... I would say its a slow road down the use of it but to be fair the control it gives you and the time you can stay hard with out pressure is what I like I can just about do what my OH calls a Poked Uff in the morning unaided or a flagging uff in the evening with out it ...thats why its my freind of choice when punting now Theres nothing like banging cheap Hungarian who after youve changed postions half a dozen times on still with the stiffy asking you " Mein got Vat hav u taken your sooo hard"  I love it 

[winkywanky]

so many men on here seem to think that taking viagra is a sign of failure, but its actually quite good for your health in general, google it. i am 63, and have been taking it for 15 years, read an article by an urologist who took one every day even if he wasnt having a sexual encounter.

Surely you're taking the pish?

Or maybe he was? 

[winkywanky]

A question please to guys that take the little blue pill because they need to, to get an erection as opposed to "helping to last longer etc...... How long was it for you between being "all ok" and needing some help?

I am now just in my 60's and 4 weeks ago I would have said - "never taken it and never had any need to. Everything always worked well,  no problems". However in the last 4 weeks, out of 4 attempts with a lady, i have had one partial success but 3 failures.

Can the need for "assistance" come on that fast? It that "normal"? How long was it for you from "everything ok" to "needing help"?

Any comments appreciated.

Sorry to hear this. It does seem a little sudden doesn't it?

Can you still get and maintain an erection in other circumstances, eg with porn etc?

But probably a good idea to contact your GP in any case. Good luck.

[zulu1964]

Following Castration was offered on NHS along with HRT,was about 36 months till needed to use.

[Home Alone]

Thinking back, I was 60 when, to mis-quote Princess Diana, "there were three of us in this punt": Me; the SP; and Mr. Floppy.

[willie loman]

i take  100 mg up to 2 hours before a shag, sometimes my routine will involve a visit to the gym, ive noticed that with comparatively little effort on the bike, my heart rate goes up to 140, without viagra it takes a good half hour to achieve this.

[luv2kiss54]

Thinking back, I was 60 when, to mis-quote Princess Diana, "there were three of us in this punt": Me; the SP; and Mr. Floppy.

One look at Camilla would give me an instant floppy 

[Doc Holliday]

.. ive noticed that with comparatively little effort on the bike, my heart rate goes up to 140, without viagra it takes a good half hour to achieve this.

That is slightly concerning? Is your BP stable? I would get that checked out 

[winkywanky]

i take  100 mg up to 2 hours before a shag, sometimes my routine will involve a visit to the gym, ive noticed that with comparatively little effort on the bike, my heart rate goes up to 140, without viagra it takes a good half hour to achieve this.

Why do you see that as necessarily a good thing? 

You're taking a drug which is a strong vasodilator, your blood vessels all open up, so your BP drops and your heart is having to work harder (pump faster) to maintain it.

Depending on your age and overall condition, routinely taking Viagra as some kind of lifestyle choice (rather than simply targeting a strong erection for impending sexual activity) may be doing you more harm than good. I think you're playing a dangerous game if you see it so trivially.

[Doc Holliday]

You're taking a drug which is a strong vasodilator, your blood vessels all open up, so your BP drops and your heart is having to work harder (pump faster) to maintain it.

Theoretically yes, but in practice healthy individuals with no medication, should show only minimal changes to their normal heart rate and blood pressure when taking sildenafil. This is both resting and with exercise. That's why I suggested maybe getting things checked?

[willie loman]

Theoretically yes, but in practice healthy individuals with no medication, should show only minimal changes to their normal heart rate and blood pressure when taking sildenafil. This is both resting and with exercise. That's why I suggested maybe getting things checked?

in the past doctors have commented on my low resting heart rate, in an approving manner, and my bp was take  recently. I take it before having a sexual encounter and sometimes i will visit the swimming pool or gym as part of a pre shag routine, i assumed that getting your heart rate up during exercise was one of the points of doing it.

[willie loman]

Why do you see that as necessarily a good thing? 

You're taking a drug which is a strong vasodilator, your blood vessels all open up, so your BP drops and your heart is having to work harder (pump faster) to maintain it.

Depending on your age and overall condition, routinely taking Viagra as some kind of lifestyle choice (rather than simply targeting a strong erection for impending sexual activity) may be doing you more harm than good. I think you're playing a dangerous game if you see it so trivially.

i have read of one urologist who takes viagra daily regardless of whether he is planning a sexual encounter. He was happy to write this in a sunday paper about ageing, it wasnt something someone told me in the pub. though i appreciate your advice.

[Doc Holliday]

i assumed that getting your heart rate up during exercise was one of the points of doing it.

It is indeed, but it was the large half hour discrepancy between reaching the same heart rate readings that I was concerned about. Anyway you seem to have it covered? 

[exhippy]

I have been taking generic viagra for 5 years. I am nearly 70. It has improved dramatically my ability to stay hard. But I am still dependent on the woman actually caring enough to hold me, hug me, kiss me. If one of those doesn't happen all the chemicals in the world won't help. However in February on the last day of my trip to South America, in Buenos Aires, I had a seeking arrangement meet in my flat. The girl arrived in my room, grabbed me, snogged me passionately, and I had instant hard. I forgot to take my pill, and I sustained my erection for over an hour. She was no looker, but wow she was wonderful - an 18 year old medical student from Venezuela. She messaged me later with amazing compliments (mind you she came around 8 times). You might think I am boasting, and a little fluffy but after this dreadful year I look back at that meet up (and my others in Argentina and Foz (Brazil) with great joy.

[daviemac]

It is indeed, but it was the large half hour discrepancy between reaching the same heart rate readings that I was concerned about. Anyway you seem to have it covered? 

The time it takes one's heart rate to return to normal is a good indicator of fitness levels.

My resting HR remains at a steady 70/71 even after taking sildenafil. 

[winkywanky]

Theoretically yes, but in practice healthy individuals with no medication, should show only minimal changes to their normal heart rate and blood pressure when taking sildenafil. This is both resting and with exercise. That's why I suggested maybe getting things checked?

That's possibly why you're a doctor(ish) and I'm not  .

OK then: I very occasionally take Viagra, why does my heart rate go berserk when I'm about to partake in a paid sexual event with a very hot WG who in the normal run of things, wouldn't give me a second look?






...aaah, I think I just realised   

[MikeGee]

I think I'm maybe at the start of thinking about taking a little blue pill. I've not had a punt since January because of this virus, but still having a wank maybe 4/5 times a week. Sometimes it can take a good 10/15 minutes of watching porn to get hard enough, then other times only a few minutes. One thing I have noticed is the lack of "Morning Glory", the way it was a few years ago I could raise the bedsheets with my hard on. Now I am very rarely hard when waking up. I suppose the thing to do is have a session with a favourite SP and see what happens.

What do people suggest I do? Should I mention it to the Doctor?

[daviemac]

I think I'm maybe at the start of thinking about taking a little blue pill. I've not had a punt since January because of this virus, but still having a wank maybe 4/5 times a week. Sometimes it can take a good 10/15 minutes of watching porn to get hard enough, then other times only a few minutes. One thing I have noticed is the lack of "Morning Glory", the way it was a few years ago I could raise the bedsheets with my hard on. Now I am very rarely hard when waking up. I suppose the thing to do is have a session with a favourite SP and see what happens.

What do people suggest I do? Should I mention it to the Doctor?

Make some useful contributions to the forum???      On your other point why bother a doctor with a medical issue when all the answers are on a punting review site. 

[HS4000Kestral]

Problem is that there is also a psychological aspect. You struggle to get an erection during a punt; next time you worry about it and so it gets worse. In this case, you will often find it relatively easy to get/maintain an erection when wanking, but struggle with an escort. It is like having first time nerves all over again, but every time.

That's how it started for me, and I found that the blue pill helped with that as well. Sort of, I have taken the blue pill, so I must be able to get a good erection, and lo and behold...

This was my experience - I pay £60 for a WG and about £1 for a LBP - If I pay the £1 extra I get a much better experience - I also find that I'm still hard even after I've come so can carry on pounding away

[Hungarian Lover]

I think I'm maybe at the start of thinking about taking a little blue pill. I've not had a punt since January because of this virus, but still having a wank maybe 4/5 times a week. Sometimes it can take a good 10/15 minutes of watching porn to get hard enough, then other times only a few minutes. One thing I have noticed is the lack of "Morning Glory", the way it was a few years ago I could raise the bedsheets with my hard on. Now I am very rarely hard when waking up. I suppose the thing to do is have a session with a favourite SP and see what happens.

What do people suggest I do? Should I mention it to the Doctor?

I would suggest stop wanking so much and knock the porn on the head, give it a while then punt with a well rated girl from here.

[ico23]

I'd been debating whether to try a little "assistance" for the past few months. I had no problem getting hard, but maintaining it was the issue I thought. So, purchased some Sildenafil 25mg from Menschems to try as the lowest dose seemed a good place to start. Took one tablet about an hour before enjoying the results with the wife.  Got to say, seemed to work a treat ! I'm mid 50's .

[Lambretta61!!]

Had the snip at 40 and never the same after that,  been taking low dose viagra for last 5 years,  helps.

[winkywanky]

Had the snip at 40 and never the same after that,  been taking low dose viagra for last 5 years,  helps.

In what way, do you mind me asking? Was your erection affected?

[Lambretta61!!]

More difficult to get and maintain. Dr said all was fine but if I had known it would affect performance as it has, I would never have had it done and even considered reversing it.  Everyone different I guess! 

[winkywanky]

More difficult to get and maintain. Dr said all was fine but if I had known it would affect performance as it has, I would never have had it done and even considered reversing it.  Everyone different I guess!

From the 61 in your nickname and the age at which you had a vasectomy, you may have been sat across from me in the same waiting room at Marie Stopes, Ealing  .

It sounds to me as though you were psychologically affected by being vasectomised. I think there's virtually no evidence for it to affect a man physically unless there'd been a bad surgical mistake? Those reasons may be to do with why you had it done, whether you felt coerced by a partner, or did you feel in some way emasculated? I'm really sorry to hear this.

There's no effect on testosterone levels or anything like that, it's purely disconnecting the balls from the sperm delivery tubes (the vas deferens). The only physical effect really is that it can reduce the ejaculatory load by around 10% or so.

But it's good that Viagra has saved your bacon so to speak, or in this case, your pork  .

[Thephoenix]

From the 61 in your nickname and the age at which you had a vasectomy, you may have been sat across from me in the same waiting room at Marie Stopes, Ealing  .

It sounds to me as though you were psychologically affected by being vasectomised. I think there's virtually no evidence for it to affect a man physically unless there'd been a bad surgical mistake? Those reasons may be to do with why you had it done, whether you felt coerced by a partner, or did you feel in some way emasculated? I'm really sorry to hear this.

There's no effect on testosterone levels or anything like that, it's purely disconnecting the balls from the sperm delivery tubes (the vas deferens). The only physical effect really is that it can reduce the ejaculatory load by around 10% or so.

But it's good that Viagra has saved your bacon so to speak, or in this case, your pork  .

I had my vasectomy quite young aged 30.
I'd accompanied my wife to the doctors to provide moral support, as we'd decided that we didn't want any more children and she wanted to enquire about tubal ligation.
I emerged from the surgery 20 minutes later having been persuaded by the doctor that vasectomy was a better option and easier to perform.

I found that erections and enjoyment were improved, possibly because of the removal of anxiety about unwanted pregnancies.

On the subject of possible psychological problems, I remember a friend who had a vasectomy and later on decided to become a catholic so he could attend mass with his wife and family. He apparently had to have various discussions with the old parish priest, and was quite anxious about the churches teaching on contraception.
Even though he'd had the vasectomy years before out of consideration for his wife who had experienced difficult pregnancies and a series of miscarriages, it was suggested to him that he had sinned and needed to go to confessions.
That had quite a big psychological impact on his erections and performance at the time.
(Don't want to start big religious debate...just giving an example)

It's about 50 years since I had the snip, and never had any problems except for coming across some reports years ago about a possible link to cardiovascular disease.
As I've been diagnosed with peripheral arterial disease,  it does make me wonder.

[winkywanky]

I had my vasectomy quite young aged 30.
I'd accompanied my wife to the doctors to provide moral support, as we'd decided that we didn't want any more children and she wanted to enquire about tubal ligation.
I emerged from the surgery 20 minutes later having been persuaded by the doctor that vasectomy was a better option and easier to perform.

I found that erections and enjoyment were improved, possibly because of the removal of anxiety about unwanted pregnancies.

On the subject of possible psychological problems, I remember a friend who had a vasectomy and later on decided to become a catholic so he could attend mass with his wife and family. He apparently had to have various discussions with the old parish priest, and was quite anxious about the churches teaching on contraception.
Even though he'd had the vasectomy years before out of consideration for his wife who had experienced difficult pregnancies and a series of miscarriages, it was suggested to him that he had sinned and needed to go to confessions.
That had quite a big psychological impact on his erections and performance at the time.
(Don't want to start big religious debate...just giving an example)

It's about 50 years since I had the snip, and never had any problems except for coming across some reports years ago about a possible link to cardiovascular disease.
As I've been diagnosed with peripheral arterial disease,  it does make me wonder.

Very interesting Phoenix.

I don't want to get into a theological debate either, but let's face it, Catholicism is shit isn't it?

I hadn't heard of any possible link to cardiovascular disease, and although I don't have any medical training I can't imagine why that might be? But nevertheless, I am now going to frantically trawl the internet for hours on end!   

[Thephoenix]

Very interesting Phoenix.

I don't want to get into a theological debate either, but let's face it, Catholicism is shit isn't it?

I hadn't heard of any possible link to cardiovascular disease, and although I don't have any medical training I can't imagine why that might be? But nevertheless, I am now going to frantically trawl the internet for hours on end!   

To put your mind at ease it was an old report, and something to do with a possible auto immune response.
More recent reports examining men who had vasectomies twenty years previously found no links to cardiovascular disease or general mortality rates.

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As my vasectomy was 50 years ago I do sometimes wonder if my poor little sperm buddies, having been trapped all those years in their testicular prison camp, have finally managed to build an escape tunnel leading to my femoral artery.

50 years of firing blanks has been a joy .

[Lambretta61!!]

I have heard that before. Winkywanky about it being psychological,  I am fairly level headed about things and didn’t think this was the case, but who knows. I did have a partner who got pregnant despite supposedly on the pill. Late on, so had it done because of this as some distrust! 
I had testosterone levels checked and blood tests and was told all was fine. Maybe that effected me more than I thought but I have moved on from that but still have issues where I only get a semi without help.

[Home Alone]

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I don't want to get into a theological debate either, but let's face it, Catholicism is shit isn't it?

...

As one who has lapsed from that 'faith', I couldn't agree more with you, ww. When I look back at the gullible young me, I can't believe how much rubbish from the pulpit I swallowed.

There's so much hypocrisy about them. The OH was a 'Non-catholic' and we were planning to get married in the church she attended at the time. But to assuage my parents, I wanted to have a priest involved in the ceremony. We were told we had to get permission from the local Bishop before that could happen. The local priest we saw to start the process off interviewed us and told us he didn't think the circumstances of her previous marriage, we'd be able to get that permission.

About a year later, I heard he'd had to resign because he'd got a parishioner pregnant!! At least, I suppose he wasn't fiddling with little altar boys!

Sorry to take this off-topic but, as you can probably tell, it still rankles nearly 40 years on.

[winkywanky]

To put your mind at ease it was an old report, and something to do with a possible auto immune response.
More recent reports examining men who had vasectomies twenty years previously found no links to cardiovascular disease or general mortality rates.

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As my vasectomy was 50 years ago I do sometimes wonder if my poor little sperm buddies, having been trapped all those years in their testicular prison camp, have finally managed to build an escape tunnel leading to my femoral artery.

50 years of firing blanks has been a joy .

I guess the other thing to consider, is that 50 yrs ago you walked around with your balls in a wheelbarrow for a week afterwards, just like Buster Gonad  .

I had mine done 20 yrs ago, and for me the only real bodily trauma was stupidly going back to work the very next day (should have left it a day, if only to avoid the why are you walking funny gags), and also the smell of frying pork wafting up my nose as the ends of my vas deferens were cauterised    .

[Thephoenix]

I guess the other thing to consider, is that 50 yrs ago you walked around with your balls in a wheelbarrow for a week afterwards, just like Buster Gonad  .

I had mine done 20 yrs ago, and for me the only real bodily trauma was stupidly going back to work the very next day (should have left it a day, if only to avoid the why are you walking funny gags), and also the smell of frying pork wafting up my nose as the ends of my vas deferens were cauterised    .

I was living overseas at the time and the procedure was performed at the local doctor's surgery.
Before being given a general anaesthetic I was introduced to about 6 curious young female medical students, which came as a surprise and I remember hoping that I wasn't his first victim.
Thankfully it was ok, but I certainly remember the bruising and discomfort, particularly as my job at the time involved wearing an all in one boiler suit that unfortunately had shrunk in the laundry.

I also remember going back for my final follow up appointment to get my little certificate giving me the all clear. I was running late and had forgotten to take a sample.
The nurse directed me to the toilet with a specimen tube and asked me to perform.
After about 2 minutes thinking of Bridgette Bardot I was able to emerge looking rather flushed and embarrassed with the required solution still warm when I handed it over.

No doubt these days that would be a popular scenario for Pornhub where the nurse came with me to provide encouragement, but sadly didn't happen for me.

I remember you could buy 'vasectomy' ties at the time.
 I assume the idea was that by wearing it at the local dive on Saturday nights,  you would attract more talent.
More of a novelty item really, and in any case my Mrs wouldn't buy me one.

[winkywanky]

A vasectomy tie 

[Thephoenix]

A vasectomy tie 

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[winkywanky]

IOFB?

I'd have thought IAFB, I Am Firing Blanks 

[Thephoenix]

IOFB?

I'd have thought IAFB, I Am Firing Blanks 

I only fire blanks.

[Waterhouse]

Had the snip at 40 and never the same after that,  been taking low dose viagra for last 5 years,  helps.

Hi... what dosage are you taking - is it a daily dosage or just when you need it for a session?   

[Lambretta61!!]

50mg. Started on 25 mg.  Tried taladenfil as well  less headache with that but get stuffy nose

[OakTree]

I only ever use a blue pill in paid sexual encounters. I only take 25mg and sometimes I half that.

The way I look at it is if I'm paying two to three pound a minute I want some insurance. Personally I think if you are paying for fucks you'd be mad not to have a back up.

[Logamimo]

When Ed happens quickly its usually because of performance anxiety. Once you fail to get hard enough for sex you begin to worry about the situation and then it happens the second and third time etc. It's happened to me, and I found the solution was relaxation therapy, which reduces anxiety levels. I'm 67 and I can still do it without having to resort to the blue pills, even though I've also had protate surgery in the last twelve months..

[Waterhouse]

50mg. Started on 25 mg.  Tried taladenfil as well  less headache with that but get stuffy nose

50mg... I'm assuming you only take it when needed and not on a daily basis?  Reason for asking is because my local pharmacist mentioned to me he has some customers who are prescribed daily sildenafil (presumably for unlicensed use?).

Cheers.

[daviemac]

50mg... I'm assuming you only take it when needed and not on a daily basis?  Reason for asking is because my local pharmacist mentioned to me he has some customers who are prescribed daily sildenafil (presumably for unlicensed use?).

Cheers.

It can be used to treat Pulmonary hypertension though I believe it's normally taken as an oral suspension.

[Clitheroelad]

50mg. Started on 25 mg.  Tried taladenfil as well  less headache with that but get stuffy nose

Im prescribed 20mg of Tadalafil. Sildenafil gave me horrible headaches and generally feeling like shit, although Tadalafil can sometimes affect my balance a little.

[Lambretta61!!]

Yes I only use 50 mg as required.   Have just got some 5 mg taladenfil. Daily to try

[leftback1957]

Last couple of years noticed a drop off, and not able to keep hard enough to do the deed. Now 65 and decided to take the plunge bought 50mg sildenafil.
Bit nervous of taking it, but hopefully will get me back in the saddle

[Lambretta61!!]

Should be fine with that !