To write two positive reviews or not?

[iq129]

As much as I would love to write two positive reviews after my three not so good ones, I am having second thoughts. The last thing I want to do is to be selfish and not contribute to this lovely forum via genuine and honest reviews. The only thing holding me back is that the selfish ungrateful whores are the ones that will mostly benefit. The moment they see a good review about themselves these sluts become arrogant and raise their prices. Basically, they bite the hand that feeds them.

[Fuzzyduck]

So the 2 positive experiences are with and "selfish ungrateful whores"? I think you have some personal issues you need to resolve.
Do the reviews. They will be judged on their own merits.

[PilotMan]

Definitely got some personal issues going on there.

You would be better off paying a shrink rather than a "selfish ungrateful whore".

[Waterhouse]

As much as I would love to write two positive reviews after my three not so good ones, I am having second thoughts. The last thing I want to do is to be selfish and not contribute to this lovely forum via genuine and honest reviews. The only thing holding me back is that the selfish ungrateful whores are the ones that will mostly benefit. The moment they see a good review about themselves these sluts become arrogant and raise their prices. Basically, they bite the hand that feeds them.

You come across as a Class A wanker. 

If you don't agree with an SPs rate, look elsewhere.  IMO if you feel that way towards the girls who are in this profession, the simple answer is to stop visiting them, go for a wank instead and keep your money and your vitriol to yourself.

[Londonpunter30]

Very few of them even read this forum.. writing reviews is what this place is about.. if you see someone review them

If this is how you feel about the girls you see maybe this life isn't for you

[kuck]

You're calling them "selfish ungrateful whore" for providing positive experiences? Both of them? What were you expecting? That'd they'd fall madly in love with you? Or not charge you?

Out of interest, do you call your negatives  "selfish ungrateful whores" too? Or do they get a pass?

[Hobbit]

You are definitely coming across as a class a wanker. First of all, if you didn't want to write a review then why mention this on the forum? Clearly, you have some issues with you are not explaining. This forum is not for the light-hearted nor is it for anyone that doesn't want to write reviews. I would suggest you find another forum like "Mumsnet" as that might be best suited to you. 

[Hobbit]

Very few of them even read this forum.. writing reviews is what this place is about.. if you see someone review them

I think you might be wrong on this one. You will find that quite a lot of them know about and read this forum. These girls are not as naive as you think they are.

[iq129]

I am very sorry but most people have got me wrong. The two ladies I saw were lovely and they are worthy of positive reviews. The point I am making is that a lot of girls push up their prices when they become popular as a result of seeing their positive reviews on here. This point has been made before in this forum. In my opinion that is selfish of them. They are not rewarding us for helping them gain recognition but are thinking of a personal gain by increasing their prices. That's where selfishness comes in.

[iq129]

You come across as a Class A wanker. 

If you don't agree with an SPs rate, look elsewhere.  IMO if you feel that way towards the girls who are in this profession, the simple answer is to stop visiting them, go for a wank instead and keep your money and your vitriol to yourself.

You've completely misunderstood me here, and so have others. Of course, I agree with the particular SP's rate, as otherwise I would not have booked her in the first place. It is the rate afterwards that I am talking about. The rate that gets a spike due to positive reviews, not the rate at which I see them.

[Waterhouse]

The point stands. 

Just because you see them at 'rate A', if they increase their rate to 'rate B' after a run of good feedback and positive reviews, I don't see that as being selfish at all. It comes down to testing the market, knowing your customer base, and supply & demand.  These girls are running a business, well speaking about the independent ones that is, and the cost of living and renting in London is horrendous. The sensible girls don't usually take the piss with rates, and the ones who do usually end up loosing bookings or with a 'dusty phone', and lowering them again.

And if you don't want to give the wrong impression or be 'misunderstood', then don't use derogatory terms like "selfish ungrateful whores".  It makes you sound like a right cunt.

[iq129]

The point stands. 

Just because you see them at 'rate A', if they increase their rate to 'rate B' after a run of good feedback and positive reviews, I don't see that as being selfish at all. It comes down to testing the market, knowing your customer base, and supply & demand.  These girls are running a business, well speaking about the independent ones that is, and the cost of living and renting in London is horrendous. The sensible girls don't usually take the piss with rates, and the ones who do usually end up loosing bookings or with a 'dusty phone', and lowering them again.

And if you don't want to give the wrong impression or be 'misunderstood', then don't use derogatory terms like "selfish ungrateful whores".  It makes you sound like a right cunt.

Advice taken, understood and appreciated. No hard feelings. Take care.

[PLeisure]

You've completely misunderstood me here, and so have others. Of course, I agree with the particular SP's rate, as otherwise I would not have booked her in the first place. It is the rate afterwards that I am talking about. The rate that gets a spike due to positive reviews, not the rate at which I see them.

You're suggesting a scenario that hasn't actually happened yet 
Do you think that your impending review will be so earth-shattering - rather like the orgasm you gave her  - that she feels compelled to increase her rate in the belief that she can filter out the undesirables and enjoy more clients like yourself?

And so what if it does? Plenty more WGs to discover. Which is why this forum exists, dumbass.

The thread title says it all... 'attention-seeker' 

[iq129]

You're suggesting a scenario that hasn't actually happened yet 
Do you think that your impending review will be so earth-shattering - rather like the orgasm you gave her  - that she feels compelled to increase her rate in the belief that she can filter out the undesirables and enjoy more clients like yourself?

And so what if it does? Plenty more WGs to discover. Which is why this forum exists, dumbass.

The thread title says it all... 'attention-seeker' 

Actually it has already happened. I saw a lovely girl by the name of sashalexxx at a time when she was getting constantly positive reviews, and almost immediately after those reviews her price rose from £150 per hour to £170 per hour.

[PLeisure]

Actually it has already happened. I saw a lovely girl by the name of sashalexxx at a time when she was getting constantly positive reviews, and almost immediately after those reviews her price rose from £150 per hour to £170 per hour.

And so what if it does? Plenty more WGs to discover. Which is why this forum exists, dumbass.

[Foxtail17]

As much as I would love to write two positive reviews after my three not so good ones, I am having second thoughts. The last thing I want to do is to be selfish and not contribute to this lovely forum via genuine and honest reviews. The only thing holding me back is that the selfish ungrateful whores are the ones that will mostly benefit. The moment they see a good review about themselves these sluts become arrogant and raise their prices. Basically, they bite the hand that feeds them.

Just review them, that’s what this forum is for. They won’t be the first or last to raise their rates.

[PilotMan]

The point stands. 

Just because you see them at 'rate A', if they increase their rate to 'rate B' after a run of good feedback and positive reviews, I don't see that as being selfish at all. It comes down to testing the market, knowing your customer base, and supply & demand.  These girls are running a business, well speaking about the independent ones that is, and the cost of living and renting in London is horrendous. The sensible girls don't usually take the piss with rates, and the ones who do usually end up loosing bookings or with a 'dusty phone', and lowering them again.

And if you don't want to give the wrong impression or be 'misunderstood', then don't use derogatory terms like "selfish ungrateful whores".  It makes you sound like a right cunt.

Couldn't agree more.

These girls are running a business and if they still do a great job with an unappreciative cunt like iq129 then they deserve a medal, not just a price increase.

If a girl works really well and get lots of positive reviews, she will probably get lots of bookings. In turn she would be business savvy to increase her prices or at least test the market and deservedly so as her just reward.

It's selfish and naive to think this shouldn't happen.

[Californian]

Actually it has already happened. I saw a lovely girl by the name of sashalexxx at a time when she was getting constantly positive reviews, and almost immediately after those reviews her price rose from £150 per hour to £170 per hour.

It’s not directly because of the positive reviews. I’m sure the positive reviews led to more calls. So she had excess demand with a limited supply. There are two ways to manage this. Have a long waiting list or increase prices to tamp down demand. In her situation I would do the same as that’s the revenue maximizing move. Either way you end up with some unhappy punters.

[iq129]

It’s not directly because of the positive reviews. I’m sure the positive reviews led to more calls. So she had excess demand with a limited supply. There are two ways to manage this. Have a long waiting list or increase prices to tamp down demand. In her situation I would do the same as that’s the revenue maximizing move. Either way you end up with some unhappy punters.

What a nice, friendly and politely worded reply. Thanks for not calling me an unappreciative cunt like the previous person did.

[The Film Director]

What a nice, friendly and politely worded reply. Thanks for not calling me an unappreciative cunt like the previous person did.

Pots and kettles spring to mind.

[Waterhouse]

Pots and kettles spring to mind.

Either selective or goldfish memory, clearly seems to have forgotten the "nice, friendly and politely worded" phrase he used to describe SPs and Escorts ealier on.

Just an attention seeker.

[JayEZ2K]

As much as I would love to write two positive reviews after my three not so good ones, I am having second thoughts. The last thing I want to do is to be selfish and not contribute to this lovely forum via genuine and honest reviews. The only thing holding me back is that the selfish ungrateful whores are the ones that will mostly benefit. The moment they see a good review about themselves these sluts become arrogant and raise their prices. Basically, they bite the hand that feeds them.

Thanks for posting the Negative reviews so far. Negative reviews are very helpful in that they saves punters from having a bad punt, and it also disincentivizes poor service (and keeps bad SPs from taking our money). Negative reviews are especially helpful for those of us who like to explore uncharted territory. As for positive reviews, you shouldn't need to worry about price raising. Typically it would take many positive reviews and their phones ringing off the hook with more people than they could comfortably accommodate before they raise their prices. (That said, even shite SPs will sometimes raise their prices.)

As for the psychology; most of the SPs are just working, earning a living. Sure they make good money, but as long as they provide a good service then there's no reason to think negatively about them.

[smiths]

There is an option a punter can choose when doing positive reviews, don't do them until you have had your fill of the WG so what then happens once a positive review is done on here makes no odds. For punters to decide what suits them of course.

I have taken this option many times in recent years after I have previously experienced some WGs putting their prices up and/or becoming virtually impossible to book as suited me. This has especially been the case with some UKP forum darlings for example Ameera who was easy to book initially and charged me £120 for the hour but after a few positives on here became impossible for me to book as suited me and her rates went up. Now such WGs are cashing on while they can obviously, great for them, bad for me.

With negative reviews I always do them near to when the punt or attempted punt occurred or didn't occur.

[Colston36]

I am very sorry but most people have got me wrong. The two ladies I saw were lovely and they are worthy of positive reviews. The point I am making is that a lot of girls push up their prices when they become popular as a result of seeing their positive reviews on here. This point has been made before in this forum. In my opinion that is selfish of them. They are not rewarding us for helping them gain recognition but are thinking of a personal gain by increasing their prices. That's where selfishness comes in.

First of all. by no means all girls put up prices after positive reviews. I see 5 regularly; all get positive reviews; none have put up rates in the last two years. You are not only wrong but mean-spirited, envious and, as others have pointed, more than a little deranged.

[iq129]

First of all. by no means all girls put up prices after positive reviews. I see 5 regularly; all get positive reviews; none have put up rates in the last two years. You are not only wrong but mean-spirited, envious and, as others have pointed, more than a little deranged.

Did I say all girls? Where? Please show me? You have quoted my words and it is clear from them that I said a lot of girls and not all girls. How is that wrong, mean, envious, etc.?

Some of the guys in here have accused me of being an attention seeker. If so, then you have fallen into this trap and have given me and this thread the very attention that I was seeking. Well done!

I am NOT going to spend a Sunday arguing over petty things and having tit for tat responses. Let me enjoy my Sunday and you enjoy yours.

Anyone is most welcome to say what they like, do what they like, swear at me or whatever. I have better things to do on a Sunday, so I will not reply. Goodbye.

[KentAde]

Actually it has already happened. I saw a lovely girl by the name of sashalexxx at a time when she was getting constantly positive reviews, and almost immediately after those reviews her price rose from £150 per hour to £170 per hour.

How  do you know Sasha has raised her prices due to UKP glowing reviews? I have seen her numerous times and am trying to again this week...sooooo...am going to drop into the chat about her price rise and see what she says. She does know about UKP, but I can't believe she would just increase due to this site..... 
Watch this space....

[iq129]

How  do you know Sasha has raised her prices due to UKP glowing reviews? I have seen her numerous times and am trying to again this week...sooooo...am going to drop into the chat about her price rise and see what she says. She does know about UKP, but I can't believe she would just increase due to this site..... 
Watch this space....

From what I gather, UKP is the best advertising WGs get, and generally they do know about UKP, so I did make a reasonable assumption from this. Please let the readers know what Sasha has to say about the significant price rise.

[earlgreyman]

I am very sorry but most people have got me wrong. The two ladies I saw were lovely and they are worthy of positive reviews. The point I am making is that a lot of girls push up their prices when they become popular as a result of seeing their positive reviews on here. This point has been made before in this forum. In my opinion that is selfish of them. They are not rewarding us for helping them gain recognition but are thinking of a personal gain by increasing their prices. That's where selfishness comes in.

It's a buyers market, WG's can easily out-price themselves but they have to stay competitive even if they are 5 star. If they do up their rates too high and don't care about losing the numbers, then they usually prefer rich clientele and that market on its own is niche. Good reviews aren't just about giving the WG's a glowing report and giving them a big head and i agree it does happen, but it's about helping the forum know who the good and bad ones are.

Do this forum a favour and write the report whether positive or negative - it all helps. Ta.

[iq129]

It's a buyers market, WG's can easily out-price themselves but they have to stay competitive even if they are 5 star. If they do up their rates too high and don't care about losing the numbers, then they usually prefer rich clientele and that market on its own is niche. Good reviews aren't just about giving the WG's a glowing report and giving them a big head and i agree it does happen, but it's about helping the forum know who the good and bad ones are.

Do this forum a favour and write the report whether positive or negative - it all helps. Ta.

I have written a positive review of Sasha.

[smiths]

How  do you know Sasha has raised her prices due to UKP glowing reviews? I have seen her numerous times and am trying to again this week...sooooo...am going to drop into the chat about her price rise and see what she says. She does know about UKP, but I can't believe she would just increase due to this site..... 
Watch this space....

No idea what this Sasha has done but its certainly the case some WGs have increased their prices after getting a number of positive reviews on here. In 1 case a "punter" advised a WG to raise her prices but keep him on the old rate, she took his advice and did raise her prices but didn't keep him on the old rate, net effect, ALL her punters had to pay more.

With so called forum darlings UKP can bring many punters to them, Michelle Independent being a prime example. Before getting reviews on here she was based in Chingford and charging £100 an hour, after getting a number of positive reviews her rates started to go up and she moved initially to the West Kensington area.

[iq129]

No idea what this Sasha has done but its certainly the case some WGs have increased their prices after getting a number of positive reviews on here. In 1 case a "punter" advised a WG to raise her prices but keep him on the old rate, she took his advice and did raise her prices but didn't keep him on the old rate, net effect, ALL her punters had to pay more.

With so called forum darlings UKP can bring many punters to them, Michelle Independent being a prime example. Before getting reviews on here she was based in Chingford and charging £100 an hour, after getting a number of positive reviews her rates started to go up and she moved initially to the West Kensington area.

Absolutely. Very well written reply with a real life example.

[iq129]

The more I dig into past reviews and price hike discussions on this board, the more I feel that it is us guys that are contributing to our own problem, i.e. price increases well above inflation.

With over 30 positives, Sasha is no doubt a forum darling. I do suspect this board has contributed to her price hike.

[Jeffe]

The more I dig into past reviews and price hike discussions on this board, the more I feel that it is us guys that are contributing to our own problem, i.e. price increases well above inflation.

With over 30 positives, Sasha is no doubt a forum darling. I do suspect this board has contributed to her price hike.

If a sp provides a consistently good performance and she gets the reviews to reflect this then as far as I’m concerned she’s earned the right to set her price. If she goes too high then she risks fewer bookings, her choice. The tone of your original post comes across pretty vile in my opinion and your subsequent attitude rather selfish, if you don’t want to pay a girls price then don’t visit but I think as in other professions people should have the right to get “market price”. You seem rather grudging of some girls success in their careers.

Reviews on here help guide punters, so contribute good or bad but ultimately it’s all our own choice on who and how to part with our hard earned cash. Perhaps some sp’s might use positive buzz on here to raise prices but if they don’t back it up with performance then it won’t last

[dobob]

The more I dig into past reviews and price hike discussions on this board, the more I feel that it is us guys that are contributing to our own problem, i.e. price increases well above inflation.

With over 30 positives, Sasha is no doubt a forum darling. I do suspect this board has contributed to her price hike.

To carry your argument to its logical conclusion, all UKP reviews would be neutral or negative and UKP would become useless. You should have more trust in market forces.

Cheers!

[Waterhouse]

The more I dig into past reviews and price hike discussions on this board, the more I feel that it is us guys that are contributing to our own problem, i.e. price increases well above inflation.

With over 30 positives, Sasha is no doubt a forum darling. I do suspect this board has contributed to her price hike.

I wouldn't agree that she's a 'forum darling', and how do you know her price hike wasn't because her rent has drastically increased in the E14 area? It's between Canary Wharf and close to the O2 and greedy landlords can charge a rent premium well over and above what would be the norm for east London.

As other's have pointed out, if a girl provides a consistently good service and has the looks to boot, then she's entitled to align her prices to the market rate and/or that of other comparable providers, and if she goes OTT or gets complacent, then she'll end up losing clients and having to rethink her strategy and lower her rate again to attract customer interest once more.

[iq129]

If a sp provides a consistently good performance and she gets the reviews to reflect this then as far as I’m concerned she’s earned the right to set her price. If she goes too high then she risks fewer bookings, her choice. The tone of your original post comes across pretty vile in my opinion and your subsequent attitude rather selfish, if you don’t want to pay a girls price then don’t visit but I think as in other professions people should have the right to get “market price”. You seem rather grudging of some girls success in their careers.

Reviews on here help guide punters, so contribute good or bad but ultimately it’s all our own choice on who and how to part with our hard earned cash. Perhaps some sp’s might use positive buzz on here to raise prices but if they don’t back it up with performance then it won’t last

The first two sentences were perfect and were debated in a kindly fashion. Then it was almost exclusive attacks and harsh accusations. I expressed my opinion, and opted to seek others’ views. The harshest accusation is about me holding grudges against successful girls. Sasha is a successful girl and I posted a positive review. She’s raised her price to beyond my budget, so I will not see her. That’s all there is to it. End of story.

I don’t know what all the fuss is about if I feel that excessive positive reviews and over praising the forum darlings leads to a price increase? Smiths, a punter with a huge post tally seemed to agree with my views and he cited Michelle as an example. I have done the same. This is a forum to express opinions and I don’t think I have broken any forum rules whilst doing so, so why are we seeing a mountain out of a molehill?

This board has many other threads on the same topic so what’s the problem with this one?

I shall stick to my opinion that praise via this forum tends to lead to price increases. It’s my opinion, but just an opinion and I could be wrong. Regardless, we should post truthful negative, neutral and positive reviews according to our own experiences. I posted a positive review because I gave credit where it was due, even though I felt that I shall be contributing towards a further eventual price increase by Sasha. This is hardly what one would call as selfish and grudging behaviour.

Thanks for reading the above.

[Global_Punter]

Excuse my ignorance folks, are we allowed to review an SP twice ? better still what if the first review was a neg and you decided to plunge again & had a better session - how does it come across now writing a positive review ? that was the question he asked that got me reading the thread but nobody has given a straight answer. 

I look forward to a better response, thanks in advance

[Jeffe]

As much as I would love to write two positive reviews after my three not so good ones, I am having second thoughts. The last thing I want to do is to be selfish and not contribute to this lovely forum via genuine and honest reviews. The only thing holding me back is that the selfish ungrateful whores are the ones that will mostly benefit. The moment they see a good review about themselves these sluts become arrogant and raise their prices. Basically, they bite the hand that feeds them.

Well the above seems pretty grudging to me but whatever

[The Film Director]

Excuse my ignorance folks, are we allowed to review an SP twice ? better still what if the first review was a neg and you decided to plunge again & had a better session - how does it come across now writing a positive review ? that was the question he asked that got me reading the thread but nobody has given a straight answer. 

I look forward to a better response, thanks in advance

The second bullet under the heading 'reviews'

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=1.0

[Global_Punter]

The second bullet under the heading 'reviews'

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=1.0

* Only one positive review thread can be posted for a service provider by one member per 12 month period, the exception is if the new positive review is for a threesome (or more) booking. This 12-month restriction only applies to positive reviews, not neutral or negative (they can be posted anytime after a positive review). During the 12-month period a member can add their new positive reviews to their existing review thread in the form of a reply.

 Danke

[Waterhouse]

Well the above seems pretty grudging to me but whatever

Sluts is not the original phrase he used to "generally" (his word) describe SPs and Escorts. He's obviously asked for it to be changed by Admin/Mods because of the flack he's taken due to it.

[Londonpunter30]

Question for the OP, how did you come to pick Sasha for s booking ? Presumably it was from reading several positive reviews on here.  That's the point of this site and shows why you should review EVERYONE you meet not just the negs

[iq129]

Question for the OP, how did you come to pick Sasha for s booking ? Presumably it was from reading several positive reviews on here.  That's the point of this site and shows why you should review EVERYONE you meet not just the negs

Exactly. It was Sasha’s reviews here that influenced my decision to see her, and I am glad I did. She’s fantastic. I am not 100% convinced about AW reviews and feedback but reviews and comments on this board are very accurate, barring those touting ones and some obviously fake ones.

Yes, we should at least attempt to review everyone we see, time permitting. I will post my other pending review in the next couple of days.

[earlgreyman]

I have written a positive review of Sasha.

Thank you, Sir!

[KentAde]

From what I gather, UKP is the best advertising WGs get, and generally they do know about UKP, so I did make a reasonable assumption from this. Please let the readers know what Sasha has to say about the significant price rise.

OK, just to close off this portion of this thread, I met Sasha again yesterday, and the first thing we talked about was her price rise......and she immediately said "oh yes, someone told me about the comments on UKP" and I read them.....
It would seem her price rise is merely due to the rent increase on her place in South Quay. Must say it is a lovely flat, with huge bedroom and en-suite facilities, and is her home it would seem, so maybe we can give her a little bit of slack... 
Anyway, if you guys are not bored with all her reviews, I'll stick one on later... 

[smiths]

OK, just to close off this portion of this thread, I met Sasha again yesterday, and the first thing we talked about was her price rise......and she immediately said "oh yes, someone told me about the comments on UKP" and I read them.....
It would seem her price rise is merely due to the rent increase on her place in South Quay. Must say it is a lovely flat, with huge bedroom and en-suite facilities, and is her home it would seem, so maybe we can give her a little bit of slack... 
Anyway, if you guys are not bored with all her reviews, I'll stick one on later... 

I don't see a link between a WGs premises and giving them a little bit of slack. Presumably a WG or her pimp choose the premises and know what its going to cost them just as punters know what an honest WG is charging so either agrees to pay her rate or not.

As to what seems to be the case, i take what WGs tell me with a huge pinch of salt.