don't expect you will get either any time soon
I'm sure you're right Chris.
Actually this thread is an interesting example of how this forum has morphed over the last couple of years. When I joined, a claim of whiteknighting or touting, however tenuous, would almost always result in a rapid ban - even when the claim was clearly wrong.
Nowadays the claims are few and far between, those that are made are rarely upheld - and the members who make them tend to end up with egg on their faces.
Its yet another example of how this forum is becoming far more tolerant and pleasant - and more realistic in its overview