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Offline Lizzie_Lockhart

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I'll say this though, the thread has grown legs.... now, who's got the greasy hair and the long leather coat? :D

That bit does sound a lot like a few ex boyfriends of mine...

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now, who's got the greasy hair and the long leather coat? :D

I like tying a lass up.
 I've got my own rope

Aahh, question answered  :sarcastic:  :lol:

Offline mrfishyfoo


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Cheeky twat.  :P :P

I'm bald.  :hi: :hi:

Bald? With a greasy beard?

That means you've got an upside down head... even better  :sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic:

Thanks for this... there's mileage with this one  :lol:

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Bald? With a greasy beard?

That means you've got an upside down head... even better  :sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic:

Thanks for this... there's mileage with this one  :lol:

You have the fish on a hook, reel him in !   :D

Offline mrfishyfoo

You have the fish on a hook, reel him in !   :D

Nah...I'm going to go eat worms at the end of the garden now instead.  :sarcastic: :sarcastic:

Offline cueball

You have the fish on a hook, reel him in !   :D

He's got his own rope  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




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Doesn't he look tough in his action slacks  :sarcastic: :sarcastic:
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Nah...I'm going to go eat worms at the end of the garden now instead.  :sarcastic: :sarcastic:

Whens your next ego rub due, your fan club are getting techy.

He's got his own rope  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Awaiting the indiana jones style entrance on a future review. 

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Oooh no....

I'm not into anything round the throat or breath play as I I've witnessed how this can go horribly wrong.

For clarity I was taught this technique in a former life for self defence and I've seen it used incorrectly. Very dangerous if done by an "amateur" without proper supervision.

I agree that this is potentially dangerous, but proper placement and technique reduce that significantly. Often people don't understand the underlying anatomy, don't know where to avoid, where to target, and often exert too much pressure.

I've 35+ years experience in Judo, BJJ, etc, 25+ years experience in kink, and there are a couple of additional personal details I won't be posting on a public forum. Without this training and experience I wouldn't touch this stuff, but in various contexts I've choked out literally  hundreds of people with absolutely no concerns or problems. I don't recommend this type of play generally though.

Offline Picti


I don't.... he's made me sound like a mischievous little urchin :D

Well you did the "crime" of trying to bait the "weirdos" so I simply thought - how would Crimewatch describe you? I was actually aiming for imp rather than urchin though, maybe one of these  :diablo: would've helped.

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He's got his own rope  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




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Doesn't he look tough in his action slacks  :sarcastic: :sarcastic:

The Metal God! \m/


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The Metal God! \m/

Best I could do when I searched ''bald,bearded upside down headed leather coat wearer''on Google  :D

Offline Zimbaman


In my opinion a SUB lass is just a lass that enjoys being used within her boundries, nothing fancy, just that.

To me, I see the male dom as a greasy haired weirdo in a long leather coat, an introverted real life personality with few if any friends, trying to live out paid fantasies to mask real world failings.

What do you lads think?

An interesting question. Your description of a male dom is exactly my view of men that pay for sex. Or at least it was until I, erm.. started paying for sex. I've had to re asses who I consider to be the greasy haired weirdos, and a couple of years ago I would have agreed with you. Then I started wondering what a bit of Dom sub play would be like (from both sides). Not something I've yet done, although it's on the list!

To quote little finger... "all desires a valid to a man with a full purse"

I'd like to add the obvious caveat about those with illegal interests still being greasy haired weirdos...

Offline mrfishyfoo

....I was actually aiming for imp rather than urchin though, maybe one of these  :diablo: would've helped....


I was thinking this....

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Offline mrfishyfoo

You have him on a hook now reel him in fishypoo and dom him.

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Ha !! Ha !!

No thanks I'll stick with pussy.  :hi: :hi:

Offline cueball

You have him on a hook now reel him in fishypoo and dom him.

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He's got his own rope ya know  :sarcastic: :sarcastic:





Offline mrfishyfoo

Is that you with a rug on your head and a shave?

Oooh a guessing game.  :P :P

Try again.

Offline cueball

Oooh a guessing game.  :P :P

Try again.

Aaahhh right, it's your next review  :sarcastic:

Cummeth the man cummeth the other man too  :sarcastic: :sarcastic:

That'll be your own rope in that pic won't it  :sarcastic:

Offline mrfishyfoo

Aaahhh right, it's your next review  :sarcastic:

Cummeth the man cummeth the other man too  :sarcastic: :sarcastic:

That'll be your own rope in that pic won't it  :sarcastic:

Oooh you're very cold now.  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Offline cueball

Oooh you're very cold now.  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Not as cold as the poor gimp in your pic tied up on your kitchen floor.... at least give him his frock back  :sarcastic:

Shynuthorny69

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If anyone tries to gag me they better be very confident of the restraints as they risk losing the hand if I can get free lol... I actually ahve that on my Fetlife profile  :lol:

I'm into breathplay but not to that extent.  I like the lightheaded feeling and the way my lips go tingly when I bite them, as well as the psychological effect of being restrained in that way.  I tend to tap out before I go sleepyby though lol

xx

I love breath play too again not to the point of passing out, but love the completely helpless feeling of restrained asphyxiation... Do you offer domme services?

Offline Picti

I love breath play too again not to the point of passing out, but love the completely helpless feeling of restrained asphyxiation... Do you offer domme services?

It depends on the type of breath play. With anything involving breath restriction I don't progress to loss of consciousness as that's taking the hypoxia (and changes in blood chemistry) too far. The carotid strangles involve a completely different mechanism of action.

Smkrslave

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There is a lot more to the fetish scene than that, though you're not wrong about a large percentage of "doms" just looking for a chance to exercise control in the bedroom as a way to make up for lacking control in the outside world.

There are BDSM Doms and subs who are into the discipline and punishment side of things, so the whips and chains and canes etc.

There are Bigs and littles (like Daddy Dom/little girl) dynamics that are more about the little regressing to a younger state and having the Big care for them

There are Sadists and Masochists into inflicting and receiving pain respectively, there is often overlap between this group and the BDSM-ers.

There are primals which is what I would class myself as if I had to have a label.  So I enjoy a bit of a fight before and during sex with my partner and will often involve biting, scratching, having my hair pulled, being held down etc. I do also enjoy being spanked with a variety of tools but if someone wanted me to count them and say "thank you" after each one I'd tell them to shove the implement they were using up their arse!  I'm also what's known as a brat, a submissive who antagonises their Dom for fun.

That's all in my private life, in escorting I do BDSM sessions and submit quite nicely.  So far I've met with:

A young dom who thought he was Mr Grey but had no idea what he was doing and would likely injure a less experienced girl if she wasn't confident in calling him out on what he was doing wrong,

An experienced Dom who brought his own kit, that was a fab time

A sadist who was just out to inflict pain for his own sexual gratification.  As we had established boundaries and he responded to my safeword I had no problem with this booking as I have a masochistic streak

As a natural sub (when I'm not feeling bratty!) I look to please and fulfill desires which I think translates well into escorting, but I'm also really good at telling which clients are naturally dominant and have even suggested to some that they might like pulling my hair while I give a BJ or spanking me while in doggy position.

This has turned into a bit of a novel as a reply, sorry!  I did my psychology dissertation on the dynamics of a kinky relationship so I could talk for hours on the subject lol

xx

You sound fab. You should post a link!

Offline NigelF

You sound fab. You should post a link!

The rules clearly state that WGs aren't allowed to tout for business on here (even, I presume, if asked by a punter). In this instance I'll do it for her (note that I've never seen her so I have no idea if she's any good): External Link/Members Only

In future, it's best just to search for the WG's name on here yourself or even on UKE or directly on AW.

vw

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You sound fab. You should post a link!

More successful touting by product placement by Lizzie, lets hope her and the other deniers admit they only post to tout.   :sarcastic:

Smkrslave

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The rules clearly state that WGs aren't allowed to tout for business on here (even, I presume, if asked by a punter). In this instance I'll do it for her (note that I've never seen her so I have no idea if she's any good): External Link/Members Only

In future, it's best just to search for the WG's name on here yourself or even on UKE or directly on AW.

Thanks, always nice to bend a rule here and there. Not too many though lol - too much arbitrary judgement on here lol

Offline mrfishyfoo

....too much arbitrary judgement on here

If you don't like it on here you can always FUCK OFF !!!

vw

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If you don't like it on here you can always FUCK OFF !!!

He went.

Anyway welcome back cueball.   :hi:

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Anyway welcome back cueball.   :hi:

 :hi:

The cage is bursting at the seems  :lol:

It were either come back or get eaten alive by a tribe of gruel munching sweat monsters  :lol:

This bloody hot weather has made rivers of munter sweat in the cage  :lol:

vw

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:hi:

The cage is bursting at the seems  :lol:

It were either come back or get eaten alive by a tribe of gruel munching sweat monsters  :lol:

This bloody hot weather has made rivers of munter sweat in the cage  :lol:

Any Subs in the cage?    I would love to explore my cage dominance. 

Offline cueball

Any Subs in the cage?    I would love to explore my cage dominance.

You want a Sub?

 You want to be a dOM?

 Have you got the necessary greasy hair, introverted personality, leather goth boots and string. And you must look tough in your bedroom mirror (until mum shouts upstairs teas ready)....

You must meet the dOM criteria above   :lol:

And don't forget the reviews, they must be about you you you  :lol:

Otherwise, you'll have to be like the rest of us.... SANE   :sarcastic:

vw

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You want a Sub?

 You want to be a dOM?

 Have you got the necessary greasy hair, introverted personality, leather goth boots and string. And you must look tough in your bedroom mirror (until mum shouts upstairs teas ready)....

You must meet the dOM criteria above   :lol:

And don't forget the reviews, they must be about you you you  :lol:

Otherwise, you'll have to be like the rest of us.... SANE   :sarcastic:

I think will give that a miss then and continue the dOM spotting.   

Offline cueball

I think will give that a miss then and continue the dOM spotting.

A wise move imo  :D

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Right then team, another question has popped in my head....

What the fuck is this SUB / dom thing all about?

In my opinion a SUB lass is just a lass that enjoys being used within her boundries, nothing fancy, just that.

To me, I see the male dom as a greasy haired weirdo in a long leather coat, an introverted real life personality with few if any friends, trying to live out paid fantasies to mask real world failings.

I'm possibly wrong, I stand to be educated  :sarcastic:

What do you lads think?
Had a look at your reviews and you seem more into GFE boy girl type experiences, the same as me. You must have encountered a girl who was more submissive than others.

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To the OP, it's about the sub giving control to the Dom and trusting the Dom to act within boundaries.
Everyone is different of course, but (as a sometime Dom) it gets me off because the sub has put herself in a position of trusting me to use her as a plaything to our mutual pleasure.
Ultimately the sub is in total control of what does and does not happen. As a Dom I find it hugely exciting to be given a toy and to know that provided I don't step outside of pre agreed boundaries, I can do whatever I like. For the sub, she gets off knowing she's pleasuring me, and that she will get her pleasure in due course (though usually with a bit of orgasm denial along the way  :D)

It's kind of hard to explain, that's the best attempt I can muster right now. I get why people don't get it and don't understand WHY the above is exciting - it just is.
In the same way I don't understand the appeal of watersports, hardsports, period play etc. I get some people like that stuff, but I'll never understand why.

Each to their own.

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To the OP, it's about the sub giving control to the Dom and trusting the Dom to act within boundaries.
Everyone is different of course, but (as a sometime Dom) it gets me off because the sub has put herself in a position of trusting me to use her as a plaything to our mutual pleasure.
Ultimately the sub is in total control of what does and does not happen. As a Dom I find it hugely exciting to be given a toy and to know that provided I don't step outside of pre agreed boundaries, I can do whatever I like. For the sub, she gets off knowing she's pleasuring me, and that she will get her pleasure in due course (though usually with a bit of orgasm denial along the way  :D)

It's kind of hard to explain, that's the best attempt I can muster right now. I get why people don't get it and don't understand WHY the above is exciting - it just is.
In the same way I don't understand the appeal of watersports, hardsports, period play etc. I get some people like that stuff, but I'll never understand why.

Each to their own.
Would you say a girl who calls herself a sub and likes slightly rough sex is the same as what you mention?

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Not sure I understand the question, but no I don't think that's necessarily the same thing.
Rough sex is rough sex. It usually (in my experience) forms part of sub/Dom play but isn't in and of its own the definition of sub/Dom. There are a lot of other elements such as humiliation, bondage, punishment etc which come into play as part of a true sub behaviour. Not all have to be present and I guess it's down to individual judgement at the end of the day.
But I don't think someone saying "I'm a sub because I like a good pounding" necessarily understands the scene. Just my opinion.

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But I don't think someone saying "I'm a sub because I like a good pounding" necessarily understands the scene. Just my opinion.

So who decides what the scene is?

Are there master doms in long leather coats that decide what the scene is?   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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So who decides what the scene is?

Are there master doms in long leather coats that decide what the scene is?   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The Dom isn't the deciding factor, the sub is. BDSM has certainly crept into the mainstream slowly but surely (anal used to be considered a kink, now it's a regular vanilla thing, spanking is going that way as well).

A hard fuck is just a hard fuck, few in the scene would consider that kinky (some might, but they're mostly tourists). BDSM has many branches and levels, but it ultimately comes down to a handing over of control.

It's more easy to recognise at the higher levels: chastity, shibari, whipping, caning, puppy/horse play, human toilets, piercing suspension, latex fetishists, etc. Less so at the more subtle levels, especially for those who don't use all the fancy dressings that come with so much of bdsm.

Sure there are plastic doms, tourists, scene queens, and other fakers. But that's true for every group.

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The Dom isn't the deciding factor, the sub is. BDSM has certainly crept into the mainstream slowly but surely (anal used to be considered a kink, now it's a regular vanilla thing, spanking is going that way as well).

A hard fuck is just a hard fuck, few in the scene would consider that kinky (some might, but they're mostly tourists). BDSM has many branches and levels, but it ultimately comes down to a handing over of control.

It's more easy to recognise at the higher levels: chastity, shibari, whipping, caning, puppy/horse play, human toilets, piercing suspension, latex fetishists, etc. Less so at the more subtle levels, especially for those who don't use all the fancy dressings that come with so much of bdsm.

Sure there are plastic doms, tourists, scene queens, and other fakers. But that's true for every group.

Well who decides what's in and whats out, sounds very cult/religion like to me.  Often her when things go wrong that those were not real doms. 

You mention higher levels, who decides what qualifies as a higher level?

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To the OP, it's about the sub giving control to the Dom and trusting the Dom to act within boundaries.
Everyone is different of course, but (as a sometime Dom) it gets me off because the sub has put herself in a position of trusting me to use her as a plaything to our mutual pleasure.
Ultimately the sub is in total control of what does and does not happen. As a Dom I find it hugely exciting to be given a toy and to know that provided I don't step outside of pre agreed boundaries, I can do whatever I like. For the sub, she gets off knowing she's pleasuring me, and that she will get her pleasure in due course (though usually with a bit of orgasm denial along the way  :D)

It's kind of hard to explain, that's the best attempt I can muster right now. I get why people don't get it and don't understand WHY the above is exciting - it just is.
In the same way I don't understand the appeal of watersports, hardsports, period play etc. I get some people like that stuff, but I'll never understand why.

Each to their own.
Thanks. I think some girls I've seen are probably more passive than sub then. I think I understand.

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Well who decides what's in and whats out, sounds very cult/religion like to me.  Often her when things go wrong that those were not real doms. 

You mention higher levels, who decides what qualifies as a higher level?

BDSM does attract a fair number of arseholes and idiots. Especially now with the in thing being a slave not a submissive. Subs set hard and soft limits, whereas slaves aren't supposed to have limits, but supposed to do whatever their Master/Mistress wants. Which obviously leads to problems.

It also used to be the view that you should "put in your time". Try the other side a least once, so you had an idea of what you were asking of the other. Watch professionals/take classes to learn how to use tools and equipment properly.

Or newbies trying to jump straight to high levels and messing things up. I've straight up grabbed tools out of baby Doms hands because they've gone to strike my joints/small of my back/stomach - all agreed don't hit areas in the scene for how much injury you can cause.

Levels are determined by how common it is, how risky it is, how extreme it is. To give an idea:

Hand spanking - low level: fairly common, not risky, not extreme.
Crop - mid level: reasonably common, risk of minor injury if not done right, not that extreme.
Caning - high level: not that common, high risk of injury if done wrong, viewed as reasonably extreme.
Bull whip/single tail - Top level: very rare, extreme risk of injury, very extreme.

Then there's also the end result, no colouration<pink/red skin<bruises<welts<broken skin.

Breath play is a more interesting one, that's always high level, the risk of causing brain damage/killing someone is very real. Especially as a lot of people don't realise you're not supposed to compress the windpipe, but do carotid compression or smothering (cover mouth and nose). The latter is the safest because it's easiest to break the seal, and you don't risk damaging any of the delicate structures in the neck. But it's still bloody dangerous.

I mean, even when you know everything and are experienced and skilful, fuck ups do still happen. It's just a matter of weighing and minimising risk, while upping reward. And not doing the high and top level kinks you like too often.