Service providers posting on this site

[Scottish_Kara]

I'm brand new sweetie.

Just to clarify though, I am by no means complaining about the site or its moderation as it's clearly a very finely balanced topic. My point was more about whether other members found the simpering comments endearing or annoying

You sound like a bitchy girl.

[hungrypunt]

The opening gambit of mentioning English Rebecca made me think perhaps AgentTrance, previously Health and Fitness.

The opening gambit made me think BELL END stalker troll

[EnglishRebecca121]

late to the party .,, im going for health and fitness returns as i remember he emailed me and called me sweetie just like the "dude" here

if you dont like me or any other wg posting put us on ignore... its really that simple, if admin didnt like me being here he would just ban me.

[EnglishRebecca121]

Returning member or not, the OPs right.  Most hookers have very little worth contributing and any involvement is a thinly veiled attempt to tout, even if its just dropping their name.

Rebecca is the biggest twat in whoreland and like a fucking wasp at a picnic round here.

Charmer,id rather be a twat then be seeing wgs who offer bareback

[LLPunting]

I'd rather have SPs here involved in useful debate that helps us to have a better experience punting than a bunch of hateful fucks who think that being a credible punter (and a macho man) is all about indiscriminately calling SPs cunts and twats.  These blowhards are likely the sort that treat SPs badly in encounters and spoil the subsequent experience for the rest of us. 

OP wades in here with zero credibility and proclaims to know the intent of what's written by SPs and deems it to be abhorrent yet then demurs to the judgement of Admin that SPs can have a reasonable voice here. 

[Blackpool Rock]

I'm afraid your post kind of proves my point. Self depreciating and deferring to 'more seasoned members'.

Ah well, perhaps it's just a difference in taste.

At least Lewis will likely appreciate your contribution. He likes the beaten down housewife vibe

Basically you have no credibility on here and appear to be a trollish previously banned member, nice try signing up a couple of months ago and waiting to post once you thought you had slipped in under the radar 

Even the girls posting on this thread have called you out as a twat 

Is this you 




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[Bogof60]

I'd rather have SPs here involved in useful debate that helps us to have a better experience punting than a bunch of hateful fucks who think that being a credible punter (and a macho man) is all about indiscriminately calling SPs cunts and twats.  These blowhards are likely the sort that treat SPs badly in encounters and spoil the subsequent experience for the rest of us. 

OP wades in here with zero credibility and proclaims to know the intent of what's written by SPs and deems it to be abhorrent yet then demurs to the judgement of Admin that SPs can have a reasonable voice here.

Was going to post something similar but the above summed it up perfectly.

[Moby Dick]

I don't mind SPs on here. Can be quite entertaining.
Is it touting? Certainly raises their profile/brand awareness but of the profiles I have checked I ain't interested, not my types so far.

Been checking out this site a bit too often! It's quite addictive...

One thing that I've noticed whilst reading through the site is that occasionally service providers pitch in an attempt to ingratiate themselves by commenting in the meekest, mildest way possible as if they want to show they're on 'the punter's side'. English Rebecca comes to mind.
I get that they perhaps want to tout (without appearing to do so) but it just comes across as a bit pathetic. It's essentially the equivalent of a punter going on Saafe and attempting to cosy up to the girls by agreeing with everything they say. In that case, I'd think the punter was being a spineless wanker and I feel the same about simpering SP's on here. There's something about their lack of loyalty to their own side that is deeply unattractive.

Does anyone actually find their brown-nosing endearing?

[finn5555]

Some pro$$ies are tolerable on here and contribute to the site others like ER spout bullshit and tout in a discreet enough way they don’t get banned 

[timsussex]

any posting by a WG is advertising - the old adage that there is no such thing as bad publicity probably holds true for WGs Even a bareback post will draw a certain sort of punter

Just look at how many negatives some girls build up on here - you would have thought that after the first couple she wouldn't  have any business

However provided its not in your face touting I think having WGs on here is by and large beneficial - mind you they will need a thick skin

[arrons222]

I agree. But it is a clear attempt by him to win people over by appearing like Bertie Big Bollocks. I've seen it before the real irony is the people who are genuine don't need to post bollocks, by all means I love seeing new and interesting topics being posted by new members, this isn't one of them it's been done to death and it's a clear "all prossies are cunts, eh lads?" thread.

Actually, "all prossies are cunts, eh lads?" was not the point at all. My observation was more to do with the submissive tone and content of SPs posts on the forum when compared with those of punters.
The subtext of my original post was to suggest that many SPs who contribute adopt a meek persona on the site in the hope of being more attractive to potential punters or at least not offensive to potential punters. I was simply making the point that, to me at least, those types of contributions are useless because for one they come across as disingenuous and secondly, the cowed woman that they portray is not attractive to me or I suspect others.
As I said, I wouldn't have much respect for a punter snuffling around Saafe like a whipped dog, and for me, the same applies to SPs who do the same on here.

[tynetunnel]

I'd rather have SPs here involved in useful debate that helps us to have a better experience punting than a bunch of hateful fucks who think that being a credible punter (and a macho man) is all about indiscriminately calling SPs cunts and twats.  These blowhards are likely the sort that treat SPs badly in encounters and spoil the subsequent experience for the rest of us. 

OP wades in here with zero credibility and proclaims to know the intent of what's written by SPs and deems it to be abhorrent yet then demurs to the judgement of Admin that SPs can have a reasonable voice here.

My thoughts exactly.

[Ali Katt]

Actually, "all prossies are cunts, eh lads?" was not the point at all. My observation was more to do with the submissive tone and content of SPs posts on the forum when compared with those of punters.
The subtext of my original post was to suggest that many SPs who contribute adopt a meek persona on the site in the hope of being more attractive to potential punters or at least not offensive to potential punters. I was simply making the point that, to me at least, those types of contributions are useless because for one they come across as disingenuous and secondly, the cowed woman that they portray is not attractive to me or I suspect others.
As I said, I wouldn't have much respect for a punter snuffling around Saafe like a whipped dog, and for me, the same applies to SPs who do the same on here.

Do you have Aspergers? Serious question, you can't write for shit, I'm still none the wiser to what you mean. You think prossies on here are fake and you don't like submissive women?

[Kinkykate78]

I'm not on here to tout, that's what UKE is for to a certain extent. Some of us might appear meek because we are toeing the line because we value our membership here and would rather not get banned for being aggressive or touting.
Sometimes we do have something to contribute that is helpful. I read on here for market research, where best to find out what to do and what not to do than straight out of prospective customers mouths, especially ones who are not sugarcoating it to please us? Also, if you are brave and can handle the criticism, reading your own reviews can give you constructive criticism on where your strengths lie and where you need to improve.

 I keep abreast of reviews and discussions in my area because here is an important resource for example to find out who is barebacking in my area and try and avoid their clients where I can, and also to keep up on which escorts have a professional attitude and play safe, who would be fine to duo with.
Also, this probably is specific to me, but I also very very occasionally book escorts myself and I have in the past received advice on here. I just can't review because being an escort myself that is a conflict of interest.

Hope this answers your question as to why some of us escorts might be on here, rather than being "turncoats" to our own kind.

Pretty much this.  I rarely post here but it’s good to do research as such

[piotrskut]

actually i quite like the pro$$ies posting on here, as you get more of an idea of their attitude than a bollocks profile on AW.  some come across as engaged and intelligent, and others dumb as fuck.  i try to avoid the dumb as fuck ones (when i finally get to punt), even if they are smoking hot.

[arrons222]

Do you have Aspergers? Serious question, you can't write for shit, I'm still none the wiser to what you mean. You think prossies on here are fake and you don't like submissive women?

No. I don't.
What exactly are you not getting? In the simplest terms I can think of here it is again. You know when you see some punter posting stuff on websites sucking up to SPs and agreeing with everything they say and not calling them out when they are in the wrong? What do you think of those kinds of people? I think of them as quite pitiable creatures. The SPs on UKP are the female equivalent. Just like I think those men come across as a bit pathetic, the same applies to SPs. I don't really want to shag someone who I view as being pathetic. 
It's not attractive which is ironic given that the only reason they would possibly sign up using their escorting name would be to come across as attractive to punters.

[vw]

No. I don't.
What exactly are you not getting? In the simplest terms I can think of here it is again. You know when you see some punter posting stuff on websites sucking up to SPs and agreeing with everything they say and not calling them out when they are in the wrong? What do you think of those kinds of people? I think of them as quite pitiable creatures. The SPs on UKP are the female equivalent. Just like I think those men come across as a bit pathetic, the same applies to SPs. I don't really want to shag someone who I view as being pathetic. 
It's not attractive which is ironic given that the only reason they would possibly sign up using their escorting name would be to come across as attractive to punters.

People do call them out, do you have a example to back up your claims?   


some snowflakes however like to call calling out vitriol. 

[Ali Katt]

No. I don't.
What exactly are you not getting? In the simplest terms I can think of here it is again. You know when you see some punter posting stuff on websites sucking up to SPs and agreeing with everything they say and not calling them out when they are in the wrong? What do you think of those kinds of people? I think of them as quite pitiable creatures. The SPs on UKP are the female equivalent. Just like I think those men come across as a bit pathetic, the same applies to SPs. I don't really want to shag someone who I view as being pathetic. 
It's not attractive which is ironic given that the only reason they would possibly sign up using their escorting name would be to come across as attractive to punters.

Thanks for explaining it. I don't think you are a woman in disguise like some have accused you of, I do think you are trying to appear intelligent when you haven't mastered basic syntax and form, which is why I presumed you were in some way autistic. What is becoming evidently clear is you have posted a thread that doesn't make any sense in terms of motive. The irony being if it was a sycophantic attempt to cosy up to punters by appearing like a big man it has backfired.

Nobody on here has defended bad behaviour on the threads I read, which is admittedly very few. As we know we all like different things a crap shag to one member might be good to another. I think the escort has a right to defend herself and share an opinion. It's obvious who is touting, who needs to wind their neck in and who is white knighting. As has been said the admin is good and these are dealt with quickly. There are many reasons for escorts signing up which have been explained to you and it isn't just to tout or to brown nose punters. I've had some good advice on here from escorts, both related to punting and non related.

[hungrypunt]

getting a bit boring now. If you dont like anyone on this forum, man or woman, just use the ignore feature

[DrConners]

Have you been on this site before?

Errm yes. Sorry, have I said something out of turn?

what name?

Name?

The boss meant "were you previously a member here? And if so, what name did you then use?"

the name before you used here. 

Now the play dumb routine 

Apologies, I misunderstood. I've never been a member before but I've been browsing for the past few weeks.

Tripped yourself up there 

That's more like it Lewis! What are your rates?

Poor attempt at deflection.

Agreed. Her's are the most annoying I saw

Oh really 

I'm brand new sweetie.

Not what you said at reply #4 

Whatever - You've managed to get your card marked after just 2 months of membership. Congrats 

Tick Tock.

[Horizontal pleasures]

Been checking out this site a bit too often! It's quite addictive...

One thing that I've noticed whilst reading through the site is that occasionally service providers pitch in an attempt to ingratiate themselves by commenting in the meekest, mildest way possible as if they want to show they're on 'the punter's side'. English Rebecca comes to mind.
I get that they perhaps want to tout (without appearing to do so) but it just comes across as a bit pathetic. It's essentially the equivalent of a punter going on Saafe and attempting to cosy up to the girls by agreeing with everything they say. In that case, I'd think the punter was being a spineless wanker and I feel the same about simpering SP's on here. There's something about their lack of loyalty to their own side that is deeply unattractive.

Does anyone actually find their brown-nosing endearing?

I look forward to your first review, whether it is a lady who is on here or another one. Speedily and in our days please.

[Ali Katt]

I look forward to your first review, whether it is a lady who is on here or another one. Speedily and in our days please.

I think you've got more chance of making the beast with two backs with Dianne Abbot than that happening.

[Waterhouse]

I'd rather have SPs here involved in useful debate that helps us to have a better experience punting than a bunch of hateful fucks who think that being a credible punter (and a macho man) is all about indiscriminately calling SPs cunts and twats.  These blowhards are likely the sort that treat SPs badly in encounters and spoil the subsequent experience for the rest of us. 

OP wades in here with zero credibility and proclaims to know the intent of what's written by SPs and deems it to be abhorrent yet then demurs to the judgement of Admin that SPs can have a reasonable voice here.

Spot on.  Couldn't have put it better myself.

Truth to tell I like to see some of the SP's posts as they can be interesting and informative; a good example comes from Tailseeker and her knowledgeable posts around STIs and such like.

[nigel4498]

OP, there are SP's who do make a useful contribution.
When I joined UKP over four years ago there was one SP, Dani, who posted regularly.
She was a very good example of what a SP could bring to the forum.
Her posts were always informative and balanced. A great help to punters on many aspects.

[Amethyst86]

Hi guys I have been keeping up with this thread because I find it interesting to know what you actually think.

I find it disappointing they way that some members of UKE and UKP come across on this site.
I will say though that I was answering a question on my review thread and I got mouthed off at for being on this site and told to F off. I'm just like...really?!..You seem to hate sp that much?

I can understand why many on here come across as meek because apparently you don't have to do feck all to get bollocked!
I mean FFS would you really go up to someone face to face and dare say those things?!

[vw]

Hi guys I have been keeping up with this thread because I find it interesting to know what you actually think.

I find it disappointing they way that some members of UKE and UKP come across on this site.
I will say though that I was answering a question on my review thread and I got mouthed off at for being on this site and told to F off. I'm just like...really?!..You seem to hate sp that much?

I can understand why many on here come across as meek because apparently you don't have to do feck all to get bollocked!
I mean FFS would you really go up to someone face to face and dare say those things?!

Well touting is not welcome hence the reaction you got this is a punters site not an escort promotion site   

[Amethyst86]

Yes on another thread because I had literally just joined and didn't realise about the policies.
Before he started I had already written an apology about that. Like I said in what I wrote, I  really didn't mean to offend anyone and I really don't want people to think bad of me because I didn't read the policies and know about that.

So I am sorry about putting myself on the other thread I really didn't mean to break the rules but it seems like he's carrying it on for the sake of being offended.

[vw]

Yes on another thread because I had literally just joined and didn't realise about the policies.
Before he started I had already written an apology about that. Like I said in what I wrote, I  really didn't mean to offend anyone and I really don't want people to think bad of me because I didn't read the policies and know about that.

So I am sorry about putting myself on the other thread I really didn't mean to break the rules but it seems like he's carrying it on for the sake of being offended.

Why moan about the reaction to your rule breaking then?   

[mrfishyfoo]

Hi guys I have been keeping up with this thread because I find it interesting to know what you actually think.

I find it disappointing they way that some members of UKE and UKP come across on this site.
I will say though that I was answering a question on my review thread and I got mouthed off at for being on this site and told to F off. I'm just like...really?!..You seem to hate sp that much?

I can understand why many on here come across as meek because apparently you don't have to do feck all to get bollocked!
I mean FFS would you really go up to someone face to face and dare say those things?!

YES I FUCKING WOULD !!!!

This is a punters site and there are rules.

..........and no I don't hate SP's you cheeky twat. If I did why the fuck would I spend £1000's of my hard earned podging them ?? Suggest you shut the fuck up as making unfounded accusations like that will get you even more shit than what you are getting now.

[mrfishyfoo]

Why moan about the reaction to your rule breaking then?   

Pro$$ie logic of course. 

[Ali Katt]

Thanks for explaining it. I don't think you are a woman in disguise like some have accused you of, I do think you are trying to appear intelligent when you haven't mastered basic syntax and form, which is why I presumed you were in some way autistic. What is becoming evidently clear is you have posted a thread that doesn't make any sense in terms of motive. The irony being if it was a sycophantic attempt to cosy up to punters by appearing like a big man it has backfired.

Nobody on here has defended bad behaviour on the threads I read, which is admittedly very few. As we know we all like different things a crap shag to one member might be good to another. I think the escort has a right to defend herself and share an opinion. It's obvious who is touting, who needs to wind their neck in and who is white knighting. As has been said the admin is good and these are dealt with quickly. There are many reasons for escorts signing up which have been explained to you and it isn't just to tout or to brown nose punters. I've had some good advice on here from escorts, both related to punting and non related.

I'm still waiting for a reply back Arrons. I think you have some passive aggressive disorder towards women.

[Heph]

OP, there are SP's who do make a useful contribution.

I'd rather have SPs here involved in useful debate that helps us to have a better experience punting than a bunch of hateful fucks who think that being a credible punter (and a macho man) is all about indiscriminately calling SPs cunts and twats. These blowhards are likely the sort that treat SPs badly in encounters and spoil the subsequent experience for the rest of us. 

Needed saying.
The current arrangement mostly works well enough - bar the occasional reflexive dismissiveness from some punters.

[Ali Katt]

It's a topic in itself, but many women don't understand how men communicate with one another. Men rarely discuss feelings and instead use banter and what the Americans call "busting balls" to display emotion, it is incredibly subtle if you are uninitiated, but different how to a woman's subtlety which goes over my head a lot of the time.

[arrons222]

I'm still waiting for a reply back Arrons. I think you have some passive aggressive disorder towards women.

I didn't see much point. You still don't appear to have understood the thrust of my discussion point. Feel free to ask your caseworker to translate it into moron for you.

[vw]

I didn't see much point. You still don't appear to have understood the thrust of my discussion point. Feel free to ask your caseworker to translate it into moron for you.

So H&F why do you do fake malicious reviews? 

[Ali Katt]

I didn't see much point. You still don't appear to have understood the thrust of my discussion point. Feel free to ask your caseworker to translate it into moron for you.

You have serious issues son. You're either showboating and playing at being the hard man otherwise you are a previously banned member.

[Metalgear2018]

I didn't see much point. You still don't appear to have understood the thrust of my discussion point. Feel free to ask your caseworker to translate it into moron for you.

Wow no need to start insulting people!

[Ali Katt]

Wow no need to start insulting people!

Fair's fair, I insulted him as well.

[Metalgear2018]

Fair's fair, I insulted him as well.

Fair play

[hungrypunt]

this forums just full of wankers...know alls. tossers th8ck fuckers. pansies...people who think they are hard men and the odd spattering of intelligent thoughtful blokes.

OH WAIT...thats life...

[S_holmes]

This is Admin’s site and it is Admin’s rules - it’s pretty clear:

“The site allows service providers to be members, but there is no tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude towards punters. Service providers must respect the ethos of the site. The site is not a chat platform between clients and service providers”

End of.

Don’t like it - go elsewhere.

[EnglishRebecca121]

I didn't see much point. You still don't appear to have understood the thrust of my discussion point. Feel free to ask your caseworker to translate it into moron for you.

what a cunt you are.

[Moby Dick]

what a cunt you are.

Sorry I couldn't resist: "do you practice that phrase in front of the mirror?". Oops did I really say that? Sorry

[EnglishRebecca121]

Sorry I couldn't resist: "do you practice that phrase in front of the mirror?". Oops did I really say that? Sorry

 

[DrConners]

I didn't see much point. You still don't appear to have understood the thrust of my discussion point. Feel free to ask your caseworker to translate it into moron for you.

Your the moron obviously as you freely embrace the term 

Now we've established your a returner still not willing to fess up as to who you were ?

Your unable to answer a straight forward question - for fear of the repercussions obviously.

    

[Branny]

Did you post as an SP before OP?

[elnukky]

Did you post as an SP before OP?

I was wondering the same. It would explain the bitchy tone.

[PLeisure]

OP seems to have abandoned his own thread... 

[SlamBoy]

It is all starting to make sense now. The OP "Arrons222" is probably a previously banned member. Or just a freeloading troll. He was talking bullshit on another thread he started over the last couple of days and I took him to task for not posting reviews despite his claims to extensive experience:

Look above. Serious UKP members get f*cked off with this freeloading sh*t. Post a review and stop being "that guy'.

Why are you so reticent to write one? Normally, the "lurkers" (i.e. parasitic voyeurs) who never review turn out to be pathetically sad individuals who come here to live vicariously and jerk off at reading other people's experiences - because they never actually have any of their own. Is that what's going on? Either admit it, or start reviewing.

He probably has such extensive experience but won't post reviews, because he has already done his reviews before he was previously banned. 

Either way, English Rebecca got it absolutely right:

what a cunt you are.

 

[arrons222]

what a cunt you are.

I can see that singling you out may have offended you but really, what is so offensive about the general point I was making? A cursory look through the threads will attest to the fact that SP members behave (and often treated) differently to non SP members and for my tastes at least, the subservient persona adopted by SP contributors is not attractive. It's not that I think SPs can't make a valuable contribution, it's that i would find such contributions more valuable if there was not such a sense that SPs are continually moderating their comments so as not to disagree with anyone 'established'.
The fact that I am branded a cunt simply for pointing out the above yet members who make highly derogative generalisation about SPs are not branded the same by SP members kind of proves my point.