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[Jim Panzee]

Sounds like a pompous prick if you ask me.

I genuinly thought it was a woman poster masquarading as a bloke with the haughtiness and bitchyness of his posts in this thread.

[dandaley]

With regards infoseeker's comments about AW feedback, I think he is correct. Dani's statement, that AW feedback is "totally worthless", is quite ridiculous. Dani is saying that there is absolutely no worth to the feedback system.

Thirty feedbacks from AW usernames that I believe to be genuine? A very good indicator. Negative/neutral/feedback only comments, again often very useful. Hidden feedback. Very useful. A girl who has been a member for years, with no mobile number, and no feedback? Suspicious and useful. A girl advertising as a prossie, but only feedback for cam. Useful info. Sometimes you can tell (by name changes and the such) that a profile has been changing hands. Useful information.

And I don't believe that infoseeker was claiming it's perfect, just that it has (or, at least, can) have a use.

"Totally worthless"? Nonsense 

i agree with you AW if looked upon in the right way is a useful tool.

[a10]

Sounds like a pompous prick if you ask me.

I genuinly thought it was a woman poster masquarading as a bloke with the haughtiness and bitchyness of his posts in this thread.

+1. Good chance the ban ends up being longer than 24 hours pretty soon too.

[cockneybstrd]

Sounds like a pompous prick if you ask me.

I genuinly thought it was a woman poster masquarading as a bloke with the haughtiness and bitchyness of his posts in this thread.

Male or Female they did sound like a pompous cunt.

I am still convinced someone emailed that stupid schoolgirl kate with the link to the review. Which was a cuntish thing to do. As they would have known what would have happened when she rocked up. Made her look like a right mentalist and a stupid young pro$$ie.

[Jim Panzee]

Male or Female they did sound like a pompous cunt.

I am still convinced someone emailed that stupid schoolgirl kate with the link to the review. Which was a cuntish thing to do. As they would have known what would have happened when she rocked up. Made her look like a right mentalist and a stupid young pro$$ie.

I like how you put her in her place with the Pig in dress garnering positive feedback comment.  

[vorian]

Male or Female they did sound like a pompous cunt.

I am still convinced someone emailed that stupid schoolgirl kate with the link to the review. Which was a cuntish thing to do. As they would have known what would have happened when she rocked up. Made her look like a right mentalist and a stupid young pro$$ie.

Totally agree,  she was obviously totally clueless about UKP and seem confused about a lot of punting matters,  the whole OWO thing stank of advice from SAAFE.

To ask about photography was incredibly stupid as her email will now be bombarded with pimps/nutters offering services. Still a good lesson for any prossie lurkers how not to do it.  Customers should come first.

[smiths]

Male or Female they did sound like a pompous cunt.

I am still convinced someone emailed that stupid schoolgirl kate with the link to the review. Which was a cuntish thing to do. As they would have known what would have happened when she rocked up. Made her look like a right mentalist and a stupid young pro$$ie.

On the other hand Kate showed how she really thinks so that might help other punters thinking about punting with her think twice. Once she heard about UKP if she were smart she would of sussed it out before posting. Like so MANY before her her anger got the better of her. It all stems from an attitude of how dare these people on this forum speak about me like this. Wake up and smell the roses as this is the future of punting is my advice to such people.

[wristjob]

Awank feedback is 90 per cent total bollocks.  All this fucking 'Wow, she's the greatest girl I've ever met cannot wait to return!' crap 

I saw a girl in Derby called Mercedes who had sixty positive feedbacks.
She was one of the most skanky useless prossies, working from one of the most disgusting hovels it's ever been my displeasure to meet and visit (and I've met and visited some!  ).

mercedes4you? Had her on my hotlist forever, never had the displeasure. Some of her photos look nice - some less nice. Not many of them have changed in years though.

1200 feedback now too.

[NIK]

mercedes4you? Had her on my hotlist forever, never had the displeasure. Some of her photos look nice - some less nice. Not many of them have changed in years though.

1200 feedback now too.

She was fucking wank mate and the place she worked from looked like it was condemned. Emaciated and sniffing. Even marks on her arms which she explained by saying she was diabetic.   
Another punter confirmed my shit experience.

[NIK]

We know Dani is one of your favourites, but if she speaks bollocks then I will call her on it. I don't have a personal problem with her, and PM'd in the past to say just that. Ask her if you want 

She does say what she thinks punters want to hear though and there are plenty who fall for it.

Strange as it may seem I don't have favourites, but this isn't the first time you've had a dig at her recently.

Anyway I don't want to get into another slanging match, but I agree with her that AWank feedback is largely useless. Maybe not the 100% she suggests, but I would agree probably 90%.
Then as you know I have very little faith in AW per se.

[James999]

AW feedback, a lot of it is fake and crap, but if you know how to use it then it is very useful, for example if you've seen a particular type of girl and have a view on her and follow feedback others have made on her, if their opinions match yours you can reverse search who else they have seen, as such you have quantifiable valid feedback you can rely on (pretty much)

AW is shit in many ways but light years ahead of any alternative 

[shagbambi]

for example if you've seen a particular type of girl and have a view on her and follow feedback others have made on her, if their opinions match yours you can reverse search who else they have seen, as such you have quantifiable valid feedback you can rely on (pretty much)

+1

[Rochdull lad]

AW feedback, a lot of it is fake and crap, but if you know how to use it then it is very useful, for example if you've seen a particular type of girl and have a view on her and follow feedback others have made on her, if their opinions match yours you can reverse search who else they have seen, as such you have quantifiable valid feedback you can rely on (pretty much)

AW is shit in many ways but light years ahead of any alternative 

+1

Imo, this is the best thing about AW Feedback.  I used to have a "If you liked her, . . ." Hotlist based on this method.

[Dani]

As I explained before I was talking to Kate about feedback on clients being useless regarding her feeling charging more for no feedback over feeling safer with guys with feedback.
Feedback left for punters means nothing as so much of it is useless rubbish.  You see girls leave glowing feedback on a guy then leave really bad notes in the notes section saying what she really felt. 
Feedback states, wow amazing so sexy great tongue, had so much fun, yet his notes read, this guy removed his condom three times whilst in doggy and in the end I had to throw him out.  Reading that makes clients feedback totally useless and I have seen it done hundreds of times.  I know girls who only leave good feedback as they don't want a negative on theirs as it may affect their work, no matter how awful the client actually was.  So in my opinion AW feedback on punters is useless. 

I did try and explain this again last night but obviously did not make it clear enough for some..  Kate had said no one had helped her or given her any advice so she made mistakes so I tried to tell her that thinking positive feedback on clients made her safe was a mistake as it is worthless.  Very few girls will leave a negative for fear of getting it in return.  That makes the whole thing from our perspective a waste of time.  I did not say AW feedback on prossies was useless although unless you know the person who wrote it you cannot be sure it is genuine as I have seen so many that have obviously written it themselves with fake punter profiles

It is a completely flawed system as both sides don't want to leave negative for fear of getting it back.  Even Ebay cottoned that doesn't work and got rid of feedback on buyers so that honest feedback could be left without worrying about a false negative in return.
How many girls have great feedback yet do a runner with the money?  They only get away with it as they still keep getting good feedback

I also apologise for using the word totally.  I was tired and didn't think that one person would take it quite so literally.  How about mostly useless instead.  My fault for posting so late

[Tjkooker]

If you take a cock for a living I'm sure a bit of banter/abuse on forum should be easily ignored. If you bite expect it in heaps though. This is a punting forum for punters to say what they think.

[Dani]

I love the point made that I only post what punters want to hear.  Unfortunately as there is such a variety on here that would be impossible.  I post what I feel which obviously makes one or two feel uncomfortable that a prossie actually does have her own mind and doesn't need to have tantrums when she disagrees with something.  I don't agree with quite a lot posted on here but as I have nothing positive to add I just don't post.  If I posted on everything I disagreed with I would get dragged into pointless arguments so I don't bother as that would just lead to me being banned

[akauya]

I regret going to be early last night now.

Anyway, what I want to know is what "spannerish tendencies" means? Fluffy I'm guessing, right?

Shall we add it to the UKP Dictionary?

[James999]

Dani has a problem, using 300 words when 20 would do 

[grandmaster-ram-rod]

Dani has a problem, using 300 words when 20 would do 

I think she has to much time on her hands   

[Sedlmayer]

I regret going to be early last night now.

Anyway, what I want to know is what "spannerish tendencies" means? Fluffy I'm guessing, right?

Shall we add it to the UKP Dictionary?

No - stupid Mancspeak. If you mean fluffy say fluffy FFS - where does "spannerish" come from? (Actually, don't answer that because I don't actually fucking care)

[JV547845]

I think we started using the word spanner in the play ground in the 80s after the Teachers clamped down on the word spacker, from spastic

[yorkshire123]

I always thought calling someone a spanner was a polite way of saying your a fucking idiot.
But on googling it its from someone been a tool.
Fuck knows what this has to do within the context Info was using it?

Also whilst googling look who cropped up selling insurance 

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[mattylondon]

AW feedback, a lot of it is fake and crap, but if you know how to use it then it is very useful,

And that is the key. It's how you use it, in addition to a bit of cross referencing. Even though I consider a great deal of it unreliable, I'd rather see it on a prossies profile than not. At least it provides me with something to reference, even if most of it is shite! UKP is a far more reliable indicator.

This 'info' person, clearly tipped of that prossie. Probably via the other board which was mentioned.

It's always the same old story. Punter writes a review or posts a comment about a prossie. Sometimes critical. Sometimes not. Then some smarmy cunt of of punter (usually a non posting lurker) tips the prossie off. For the most part, to suck up and curry favour. Prossie gets wound up, unwisely joins and spouts a load of bollocks, including slating punters and is then swiftly banned.

[dandaley]

I think she has to much time on her hands   

is she the only wg left on here ffs , why 

[akauya]

I always thought calling someone a spanner was a polite way of saying your a fucking idiot.
But on googling it its from someone been a tool.
Fuck knows what this has to do within the context Info was using it?

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Yes (about the tool/idiot meaning) that's why it threw me when the Info guy was using it in a different context...

[infoseeker]

I didn't know I was "banned" since I was done for the night and only got the chance to come back now.

Anyway looks like some valid points were made especially by Daffodil and Dani admitted that saying "totally worthless" was an exaggeration.
BUT
I would also concede I was only saying Adultwork feedbacks is not "totally worthless" for punters, as some have mentioned above it can even be useful IF you know what you are doing and we are talking about negatives as well.
Dani has made an important distinction above in that she was talking to Schoolgirl Kate from the perspective of escorts in which case perhaps she is right, I don't know, she'd know better then me and the rest of us non-escorts.

Maybe we can all be right, we need a group hug emoticon at this stage, this picture will have to do.

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[infoseeker]

Feedback left for punters means nothing as so much of it is useless rubbish.  You see girls leave glowing feedback on a guy then leave really bad notes in the notes section saying what she really felt. 
Feedback states, wow amazing so sexy great tongue, had so much fun, yet his notes read, this guy removed his condom three times whilst in doggy and in the end I had to throw him out.

Hi Dani,

What is notes?
Can a Seeking Services on Adultwork see what is written in his notes?

Thanks

[akauya]

I didn't know I was "banned" since I was done for the night and only got the chance to come back now.
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Funny how your 24 hour ban changed your attitude. You sound less of a dick now 

[smiths]

I didn't know I was "banned" since I was done for the night and only got the chance to come back now.

Anyway looks like some valid points were made especially by Daffodil and Dani admitted that saying "totally worthless" was an exaggeration.
BUT
I would also concede I was only saying Adultwork feedbacks is not "totally worthless" for punters, as some have mentioned above it can even be useful IF you know what you are doing and we are talking about negatives as well.
Dani has made an important distinction above in that she was talking to Schoolgirl Kate from the perspective of escorts in which case perhaps she is right, I don't know, she'd know better then me and the rest of us non-escorts.

Maybe we can all be right, we need a group hug emoticon at this stage, this picture will have to do.

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Really, well the post admin quoted mentioning the ban for trolling was yours where you told others not to post except Dani. Its not your business what others post. I for one didnt appreciate it and will post as suits ME not you.

[Sedlmayer]

Really, well the post admin quoted mentioning the ban for trolling was yours where you told others not to post except Dani. Its not your business what others post. I for one didnt appreciate it and will post as suits ME not you.

Hear, hear. If you're genuine I'd go a bit steady for a while if I was you.

[Daffodil]

As I explained before I was talking to Kate about feedback on clients being useless regarding her feeling charging more for no feedback over feeling safer with guys with feedback.
Feedback left for punters means nothing as so much of it is useless rubbish.  You see girls leave glowing feedback on a guy then leave really bad notes in the notes section saying what she really felt. 
Feedback states, wow amazing so sexy great tongue, had so much fun, yet his notes read, this guy removed his condom three times whilst in doggy and in the end I had to throw him out.  Reading that makes clients feedback totally useless and I have seen it done hundreds of times.  I know girls who only leave good feedback as they don't want a negative on theirs as it may affect their work, no matter how awful the client actually was.  So in my opinion AW feedback on punters is useless. 

I did try and explain this again last night but obviously did not make it clear enough for some..  Kate had said no one had helped her or given her any advice so she made mistakes so I tried to tell her that thinking positive feedback on clients made her safe was a mistake as it is worthless.  Very few girls will leave a negative for fear of getting it in return.  That makes the whole thing from our perspective a waste of time.  I did not say AW feedback on prossies was useless although unless you know the person who wrote it you cannot be sure it is genuine as I have seen so many that have obviously written it themselves with fake punter profiles

It is a completely flawed system as both sides don't want to leave negative for fear of getting it back.  Even Ebay cottoned that doesn't work and got rid of feedback on buyers so that honest feedback could be left without worrying about a false negative in return.
How many girls have great feedback yet do a runner with the money?  They only get away with it as they still keep getting good feedback

I also apologise for using the word totally.  I was tired and didn't think that one person would take it quite so literally.  How about mostly useless instead.  My fault for posting so late

A prossie offering a prossie advice? Hmmm, isn't that what saafe is for? 

And where does she say she thinks it makes her safe by only seeing guys with feedback? I can't see it on any of her posts here and on her AW profile it says it's to try and weed out time wasters. Perhaps being young and fit means she gets so many enquiries she can afford to be picky, unlike more rotund and older prossies. Surely even you can see that if she has two enquires, one of which is an anonymous phonecall and the other is an email from a guy with plenty of feedback from genuine prossies, the latter will be less likely to be a time waster?

AW feedback, for both punters and prossies, has its value. It does require a basic level of intelligence to use it constructively though 

[infoseeker]

Hi Dani,

What is notes?
Can a Seeking Services on Adultwork see what is written in his notes?

Thanks

Does anyone else know what "notes" is?
Isn't this big news that from what Dani is saying Adultwork has hidden system of feedback of sorts that Escorts are seeing on punters... I for one am intrigued and would like to know more.

Thanks

[CoolTiger]

Does anyone else know what "notes" is?
Isn't this big news that from what Dani is saying Adultwork has hidden system of feedback of sorts that Escorts are seeing on punters... I for one am intrigued and would like to know more.

Thanks

On main UKP page, search under "hidden notes" and you should get 30+ threads. They contain ample information as to how they are set up, and how you can find out what is written about you.

[infoseeker]

On main UKP page, search under "hidden notes" and you should get 30+ threads. They contain ample information as to how they are set up, and how you can find out what is written about you.

Hi CoolTiger, Thanks for that won't get the time to look into it right now, but will on weekend.  Will post here if I have queries.

Ps: Don't know if you recall but we PMed a bit a few months back about the elusive but beautiful External Link/Members Only she has logged into her aw but not checked messages... or as you mentioned perhaps it is Mr Omar who is logging in.  Will let you know if I hear from her.

[yorkshire123]

Ps: Don't know if you recall but we PMed a bit a few months back about the elusive but beautiful External Link/Members Only she has logged into her aw but not checked messages... or as you mentioned perhaps it is Mr Omar who is logging in.  Will let you know if I hear from her.

This is not a dig at Info as i have seen others do it, am i been naive again? I thought PM was private message & by definition should be kept private between the members concerned & anything untoward reported to the mods?
Or maybe i just need a shag.

[vorian]

This is not a dig at Info as i have seen others do it, am i been naive again? I thought PM was private message & by definition should be kept private between the members concerned & anything untoward reported to the mods?
Or maybe i just need a shag.

Sounds right to me, perhaps on both counts.

[smiths]

This is not a dig at Info as i have seen others do it, am i been naive again? I thought PM was private message & by definition should be kept private between the members concerned & anything untoward reported to the mods?
Or maybe i just need a shag.

Depends on the circumstances in my view. I was PMd by low life scum on here who ran GP Parties and made that public, they tried to bribe me with the offer of a free party.

IMO if both posters dont mind its not a problem obviously, in this case CT hasnt posted as of yet so no idea if its a problem to him. But if Infoseeker didnt get CTs agreement to divulge they had PMd in the past if thats true Info is well out of line.

[CoolTiger]

I didn't have a problem with his post above, and I have today replied to him by PM.

To digress a little:
Over the years, I have learnt the hard way to PM only trusted members with info I did not want to post openly. So far, only one twat turned against me about a year ago, by going public on other forums and accusing me of filing fake reports on here and on AW, and trying to reveal my identity (which he failed with big time, as he got most facts wrong).

I did inform Admin, but he had already been banned on here by then.

Since then, for all newbies, most of the time, I tend to provide info, usually on any of my punts, which they needed more info on (as infoseeker did with Zara-Louise) or further details of any profiles I may have posted on.

On average, I tend to receive 3~4 PMs a day, enquiring about posts or links I have posted or commented on, mainly in the East Midlands section. It is not something I set out to do when I joined, but I enjoy posting on this forum and am glad to help out anyone avoid a bad punt, or worse still, any scam or fake profiles (mainly newbies). Quite often some of the experienced members may also send an enquiry by PM.

Most experienced posters follow the etiquette Smiths mentioned above, but nevertheless, I would still avoid posting any info that could backfire on me in the future. I hardly post on topics such as politics, religion, etc. so I tend to stay out of the way of any ping pong banter on here, so have hardly fallen out with any members.

[infoseeker]

In this case I had just sent CoolTiger a PM asking for latest info on a girl that he had already posted about on the open forum... so I guessed right he wouldn't mind, that was a few months back (see I'm not a total newb on here) it was just a coincidence that he posted on here and I recognised his username.

But it is good to hear the views of others what is appropriate and acceptable behaviour on here... I wouldn't want to burst on here out of nowhere... might upset a few of the regulars

infoseeker - Trying his best to blend in with the wallpaper. 

[infoseeker]

Regarding escorts notes I am meeting an escort tmrw for an overnighter she is a pal of mine 
In summary where do I have to ask her to look for my "notes" if there are any against my name.

I'll just ask her somewhere along the line to login and check for me.

I am aware not to have her login from my browser I already got connected to another escort/alias like that before.

I am planning on searching the forum for more info on "Hidden Notes" but I might not get time before the overnighter tmrw.

Thanks

[cunnyhunt]

I am planning on searching the forum for more info on "Hidden Notes" but I might not get time before the overnighter tmrw.

Thanks

For sure, I could help you there with the information you require, but I don't really have time before my morning shit 

[infoseeker]

Checked and No Hidden Notes on my AW account.... at least yet. 

For sure, I could help you there with the information you require, but I don't really have time before my morning shit 

Your morning shit would take less time if you didn't indulge in Hardsports. 
The escort who checked for me was logging to her account and said do you know how many messages I get asking me for things like "will you poo in my mouth".... I thought of cunnyhunt and wasn't suprised.