The Phoenix Club - August 2017 - A Saturday

[jeezyuk]

Title: An underwhelming visit to The Phoenix Club.

This review contains some standard details from my earlier TPC reviews.
Meant to post it earlier but have been busy.

Link: External Link/Members Only

Services:
DFK
OWO
CIM (accident)
RO
Hand job
Penetration (Protected)

Price: £160 for 2 hours

Comm's: Via phone call, with address texted afterwards.

Location: A basement flat near Edgware Road Station. I guess you could say it is fit for purpose but when I walked in, even the stairwell made me feel like walking. More details later on. Large beds where the action takes place. Shower and towels provided as well as a safe place for valuables. Deodorant no longer applied by the girls, after showering - think we should go back to it.

Would I visit again: Probably but only after the place is renovated and EM sorts out the other issues in the text below.

The crowd: 10:5 ratio to begin with but then myself and one gent came late so ... 12:5 ratio for the first half hour until Barbara joined to make it 12:6. Most gents in the 40-60 age range and three (including me) in the 25-40 age bracket.

Summary of the meet:

The girls and a few notes about their servie:

1. Toni -

Stunning blonde porn star (Karlie Simon). Great OWO with eye contact + accidental CIM. Didn't wash between rounds I noticed so no RO for me. Mechanical sex in mish and doggy but she was tight. She didn't go around encouraging punters to participate and I pretty much had to force my cock into her face to get her started. I have looked forward to this girl for a long time - following the reviews about her looks and performance - for me it was a lackluster performance.

2. Asia -

Ugly face but up for it. She kept trying to get people involved which was good. Fit body but the face turned me off. Decent OWO but no eye contact and she was very busy so didn't cum inside of her. I gave her a few jabs from behind at one point but she was too busy sucking off another punter to get into a comfortable position for me to drop my jellyfish.

3. Ruby -

It was her first day. She was a real performer! .. but fml - she had bad breath and tasted funny...
Ruby is good looking IMHO and a sex goddess. Can't believe she licked off the other english girl that was there (didn't get her name). Always encouraging people to get involved and definitely in it to please. DFK, RO, OWO, Mish, Doggy... 1 pop. She might have gotten another pop if only her mouth didn't taste and smell a bit off.
Ruby .. if you are listening .. I highly recommend Listerine - original flavour hun ... it burns but fuck me I feel like your oral hygiene needs some fires from the depths of Hell.

4. There was another English girl too - didn't get her name - suggest a few and I'll remember .. wasn't Chantelle or Jasmin for sure.

Pale skin, dark hair, chubby. Great fuck but ugly face. Her pics on TPC website flattered her .. in real life I wouldn't want her on my table. Fucked her anyway because she was up for it and also because some guy abandoned her for Cindy so I felt I had to step in to make her feel less like second place. Doggy, superb OWO - another pop. She was enthusiastic overall.

5. Cindy -

Friendly, beautiful, sexy tattoos, sex goddess ... I had a lot of competition for her but luckily she went to the smaller room with only one bed... I sat next to the bed waiting for my moment and when it came I ended up fucking her for almost 45 minutes. I was greedy with her. OWO, RO, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, mish, doggy, standing fuck - I hogged her because she was enthusiastic, smelled great, looked amazing and fucking her dripping in sweat just made me want more. She got 3 pops from me.

6. Barbara -

Everyone is familiar .. won't do too much detail. She had to jump in to make it 2:1 ratio. I fancied her on the day but I had had a few beers. She did suck me off well while I licked Ruby off.

So aside from the issues with some girls ... what else was wrong?

- Well the new flat is currently a dump. It needs a serious renovation. Stark contrast to Hyde Park mansion. The bathroom was dirty with used towels everywhere. The kitchen is off limits because apparently there is some window that we could be seen through - never confirmed as I wasn't allowed in the kitchen. The large room is fit for purpose with the same old beds but it is very basic and also very dirty. When I say dirty, I mean the sheets don't look like they are changed before each party like in the old days. I recall Emily changing the sheets at the end of a couple parties. Emily - we miss you darling. The furniture is dated and the ambience is just that of an orgy in a dirty shack. I would very much like if we went back to the Hyde Park mansion.

- It was fucking hot on the day. No fans in sight. I enjoyed dripping in sweat with Cindy but with everyone else it was just gross and it stank.

- Shortage of robes and clean towels. Some people were knicking other people’s robes when taking breaks. We were asked to find a spot for our robes where we knew to find them. We were asked to keep our towels and reuse as well because there were only a few. FFS ... towels ad robes cost fuck all. Emily used to wash them while we partied - to keep the flow constant. Go to IKEA or something EM.

- Annoying arabic/indian music playing from an iPad with poor quality. It was off-putting and annoying. I like Asian music and movies .. but honestly turning the sound off would have been better.

- Way too busy. Although not more than 2:1 throughout ... Barabara only jumped in after 30mins so 2:1 was exceeded at the start.

- Multi-room layout means one room is ram packed and the other quiet. This has pros and cons but overall it was a negative for me.

- Because we aren't allowed in the kitchen, we can't select what drinks we want or even know what is available. At Hyde Park we had a nice selection of beverages and we could take what we like. Another cost cutting measure.

- Snacks were just a cheese board with crackers. What happened to the days of nuggets or pizza or samosas? I know we aren't there to eat but fuck .. TPC used to have such high standards and I used to enjoy munching on something other than cheese and crackers while there... cost cutting when you live in a mansion and pimp out all these girls ... pure greed or mismanagement.

For 160£ .. I left before the end (which is something I never do) and with very mixed feelings too.

EM was in attendance and managing the party a bit but she spent more time in the living room chatting than anything else.

I was a massive fan of TPC in my early days there. Never been to LMP but I always enjoyed TPC in the past. I took the punt after they moved to Edgware Road... and to be honest ... I would consider going back if only for the selection of girls possible .. but generally I wish someone would start something similar in a nice flat, with all the constant suggestions by punters incorporated. A little competition would get EM in the groove .. but while she has the monopoly .. nothing will happen and it may even get worse.

EM.. I beg of you .. get us back to the LMP days. I don't know what you doing otherwise .. but you need to revisit TPC business model.

Side note:
some gents are fucking gross .. shaving takes very little time but you come with your forests and drop leaves everywhere ... cut them pubes down - this is London not France .. this was the first crowd I punted with that was so unfit and poorly groomed that it even put me off far less for what it must have done for the girls. I usually get a kick off seeing presentable punters fucking while on my break.

[The_Don]

cost cutting when you live in a mansion and pimp out all these girls ... pure greed or mismanagement.

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[Sinz]

I was planning a visit again, but definitely not anymore after reading your review

Thanks for the warning warning OP

I was going to say, looks like things are falling apart. But with the looks of it- everything has fallen apart, with all the basic stuff messed up to begin with, coupled with appalling service.

 

[TrevorN]

Wait ..VT will appear very soon to put his spin how great it is 

[Sinz]

Wait ..VT will appear very soon to put his spin how great it is 

Oh yes £32 each, where else can you get WGs at such prices (IMO Poundland quality). I can never seem to forget that logic from VT.

[jeezyuk]

I was planning a visit again, but definitely not anymore after reading your review

Thanks for the warning warning OP

I was going to say, looks like things are falling apart. But with the looks of it- everything has fallen apart, with all the basic stuff messed up to begin with, coupled with appalling service.

 

Cheers 

I wish I had had the time to post it earlier but was abroad and UKP doesn’t like USA IPs or VPNs I learned. Something about trolls came up when I tried to log in. Might have seen some change at TPC already if I had posted earlier..but let’s see what improvements there are or aren’t by Xmas.

Anyway - better late than never. Hopefully this gets Em to sort out her model for TPC ... until then punters know what to avoid.

Ive never been to HOD so gona test it out for a few TPC WGs I like the looks of. Will report back when I get round to the punts. Waiting for Alana and Talida to come back into the lineup at HOD.

[Brazilian Martian]

Wait ..VT will appear very soon to put his spin how great it is 

  do you reckon he's Personal friends with em 

[Brazilian Martian]

Title: An underwhelming visit to The Phoenix Club.

This review contains some standard details from my earlier TPC reviews.
Meant to post it earlier but have been busy.

Link: External Link/Members Only

Services:
DFK
OWO
CIM (accident)
RO
Hand job
Penetration (Protected)

Price: £160 for 2 hours

Comm's: Via phone call, with address texted afterwards.

Location: A basement flat near Edgware Road Station. I guess you could say it is fit for purpose but when I walked in, even the stairwell made me feel like walking. More details later on. Large beds where the action takes place. Shower and towels provided as well as a safe place for valuables. Deodorant no longer applied by the girls, after showering - think we should go back to it.

Would I visit again: Probably but only after the place is renovated and EM sorts out the other issues in the text below.

The crowd: 10:5 ratio to begin with but then myself and one gent came late so ... 12:5 ratio for the first half hour until Barbara joined to make it 12:6. Most gents in the 40-60 age range and three (including me) in the 25-40 age bracket.

Summary of the meet:

The girls and a few notes about their servie:

1. Toni -

Stunning blonde porn star (Karlie Simon). Great OWO with eye contact + accidental CIM. Didn't wash between rounds I noticed so no RO for me. Mechanical sex in mish and doggy but she was tight. She didn't go around encouraging punters to participate and I pretty much had to force my cock into her face to get her started. I have looked forward to this girl for a long time - following the reviews about her looks and performance - for me it was a lackluster performance.

2. Asia -

Ugly face but up for it. She kept trying to get people involved which was good. Fit body but the face turned me off. Decent OWO but no eye contact and she was very busy so didn't cum inside of her. I gave her a few jabs from behind at one point but she was too busy sucking off another punter to get into a comfortable position for me to drop my jellyfish.

3. Ruby -

It was her first day. She was a real performer! .. but fml - she had bad breath and tasted funny...
Ruby is good looking IMHO and a sex goddess. Can't believe she licked off the other english girl that was there (didn't get her name). Always encouraging people to get involved and definitely in it to please. DFK, RO, OWO, Mish, Doggy... 1 pop. She might have gotten another pop if only her mouth didn't taste and smell a bit off.
Ruby .. if you are listening .. I highly recommend Listerine - original flavour hun ... it burns but fuck me I feel like your oral hygiene needs some fires from the depths of Hell.

4. There was another English girl too - didn't get her name - suggest a few and I'll remember .. wasn't Chantelle or Jasmin for sure.

Pale skin, dark hair, chubby. Great fuck but ugly face. Her pics on TPC website flattered her .. in real life I wouldn't want her on my table. Fucked her anyway because she was up for it and also because some guy abandoned her for Cindy so I felt I had to step in to make her feel less like second place. Doggy, superb OWO - another pop. She was enthusiastic overall.

5. Cindy -

Friendly, beautiful, sexy tattoos, sex goddess ... I had a lot of competition for her but luckily she went to the smaller room with only one bed... I sat next to the bed waiting for my moment and when it came I ended up fucking her for almost 45 minutes. I was greedy with her. OWO, RO, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, mish, doggy, standing fuck - I hogged her because she was enthusiastic, smelled great, looked amazing and fucking her dripping in sweat just made me want more. She got 3 pops from me.

6. Barbara -

Everyone is familiar .. won't do too much detail. She had to jump in to make it 2:1 ratio. I fancied her on the day but I had had a few beers. She did suck me off well while I licked Ruby off.

So aside from the issues with some girls ... what else was wrong?

- Well the new flat is currently a dump. It needs a serious renovation. Stark contrast to Hyde Park mansion. The bathroom was dirty with used towels everywhere. The kitchen is off limits because apparently there is some window that we could be seen through - never confirmed as I wasn't allowed in the kitchen. The large room is fit for purpose with the same old beds but it is very basic and also very dirty. When I say dirty, I mean the sheets don't look like they are changed before each party like in the old days. I recall Emily changing the sheets at the end of a couple parties. Emily - we miss you darling. The furniture is dated and the ambience is just that of an orgy in a dirty shack. I would very much like if we went back to the Hyde Park mansion.

- It was fucking hot on the day. No fans in sight. I enjoyed dripping in sweat with Cindy but with everyone else it was just gross and it stank.

- Shortage of robes and clean towels. Some people were knicking other people’s robes when taking breaks. We were asked to find a spot for our robes where we knew to find them. We were asked to keep our towels and reuse as well because there were only a few. FFS ... towels ad robes cost fuck all. Emily used to wash them while we partied - to keep the flow constant. Go to IKEA or something EM.

- Annoying arabic/indian music playing from an iPad with poor quality. It was off-putting and annoying. I like Asian music and movies .. but honestly turning the sound off would have been better.

- Way too busy. Although not more than 2:1 throughout ... Barabara only jumped in after 30mins so 2:1 was exceeded at the start.

- Multi-room layout means one room is ram packed and the other quiet. This has pros and cons but overall it was a negative for me.

- Because we aren't allowed in the kitchen, we can't select what drinks we want or even know what is available. At Hyde Park we had a nice selection of beverages and we could take what we like. Another cost cutting measure.

- Snacks were just a cheese board with crackers. What happened to the days of nuggets or pizza or samosas? I know we aren't there to eat but fuck .. TPC used to have such high standards and I used to enjoy munching on something other than cheese and crackers while there... cost cutting when you live in a mansion and pimp out all these girls ... pure greed or mismanagement.

For 160£ .. I left before the end (which is something I never do) and with very mixed feelings too.

EM was in attendance and managing the party a bit but she spent more time in the living room chatting than anything else.

I was a massive fan of TPC in my early days there. Never been to LMP but I always enjoyed TPC in the past. I took the punt after they moved to Edgware Road... and to be honest ... I would consider going back if only for the selection of girls possible .. but generally I wish someone would start something similar in a nice flat, with all the constant suggestions by punters incorporated. A little competition would get EM in the groove .. but while she has the monopoly .. nothing will happen and it may even get worse.

EM.. I beg of you .. get us back to the LMP days. I don't know what you doing otherwise .. but you need to revisit TPC business model.

Side note:
some gents are fucking gross .. shaving takes very little time but you come with your forests and drop leaves everywhere ... cut them pubes down - this is London not France .. this was the first crowd I punted with that was so unfit and poorly groomed that it even put me off far less for what it must have done for the girls. I usually get a kick off seeing presentable punters fucking while on my break.

That's what puts me off visiting parties seeing hairy sweaty men, and guys hoggin the girls. Apart from that it was was a good review

[TrevorN]

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Apparently Moss the ex partner of Emma was on here recently saying how he has nothing to do with TPC only for him to come back using a new account after being banned and talking shit about members on here . It's all about the money indeed . Cost cutting for him to get his share of the £ spoils 

Yes Emma we saw your luxury mansion on TV you pimpess .  You filthy Lowlife trying to out punters who have another opinion of your parties .

The pair Moss Emma are lowlifes 

[jeezyuk]

I dunno who Moss is but I remember at the start, every party I went to there was a gent that would be there. He would get the girls to do stuff like charge his phone or he would run upstairs to the rooms where we were not allowed and then he’d be back down.

I remember once I wanted to play with Ivana and he most casually moved aside to let me do so. Like he knew he could do it anytime after.

At the time I didn’t think anything of him because the Hyde Park days were decent.

Come to think of it - this party Em was there but he wasn’t.

If that is indeed him then he is very much still a part of TPC and it won’t surprise me if they are both attacking anyone caught slandering their business.

Why don’t they just up their game and make people happy and run a decent business like before?Surely they have earned enough now that they don’t need to scam anyone. Mansion and all.

To be honest -HOD seems to be the only place with half decent punts from what I’m reading. Other than that we rely on touring Independents. London punting has become shite sadly.

[Chorley]

Thanks for the review OP.
I've been considering breaking my party duck here, but with all the previous shenanigans with outing punters  and now more reports of awful service I'm out

[The_Don]

To be honest -HOD seems to be the only place with half decent punts from what I’m reading. Other than that we rely on touring Independents. London punting has become shite sadly.

HoD, has some mixed reviews, on UKP.

Another member asked a question about HoD. 5+ months ago, see this thread for more info >  https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=151457.0;all

[jeezyuk]

After reading that I have some second thoughts. Thanks Don.

Fml ... what happened to the days when London was full of good punts.

Now we just overpriced or have other issues. Fml

[SirCharles]

Apparently Moss the ex partner of Emma was on here recently saying how he has nothing to do with TPC only for him to come back using a new account after being banned and talking shit about members on here . It's all about the money indeed . Cost cutting for him to get his share of the £ spoils 

Yes Emma we saw your luxury mansion on TV you pimpess .  You filthy Lowlife trying to out punters who have another opinion of your parties .

The pair Moss Emma are lowlifes 

Moss was sick and divorced but i don't know if he is still involved with Maruda buzz

[smiths]

Moss was sick and divorced but i don't know if he is still involved with Maruda buzz

In their only previous post on here the poster nicked Northwesttt said they were Moss but weren't involved in TPC, so it was weird they posted in late September to lay into me and another poster before being banned for being a previously banned pimp. No idea if it was Moss or not obviously, could of been Em or one of her white knights posting. What wont happen is they wont undermine UKP which is what they are trying to do, with 7 posters now banned linked to TPC by admin.

This review by a poster who has previously done 2 positive reviews on TPC on here shows the standard of service offered at the time, hopefully for punters they have improved since. The premises sounds poor to say the least, what a come down from the great place LMP had in Lancaster Gate, yet the price is the same as LMP at its end but with less WGs per party.

And to punters unaware do NOT give the TPC pimp your real name because if you later dare criticise them on here as I have they may try to out you as they through a punter banned off here for being a TPC white knight tout slagging off UKP tried on Twitter. Fortunately the name I gave the pimp years ago which was posted wasn't my real name. Real low life tactics.

[TrevorN]

Moss was sick and divorced but i don't know if he is still involved with Maruda buzz

Just to clear things up it's not Maruda it's Mruga 

[Rocket Scientist]

OP doth protest too much.

Was at TPC last week and was balls deep in good pussy for 2 hours. OK so you get the odd minter and walls aren't a smooth gloss finish yet. With possibly the exception of FuckClub parties of the past that were in  Sutton, tell me what's out there now and better?

[Sinz]

OP doth protest too much.

Was at TPC last week and was balls deep in good pussy for 2 hours. OK so you get the odd minter and walls aren't a smooth gloss finish yet. With possibly the exception of FuckClub parties of the past that were in  Sutton, tell me what's out there now and better?

Are you aware of any ?

[SirCharles]

Just to clear things up it's not Maruda it's Mruga 

Yep, not good in punjabi language

[TrevorN]

Fortunately the name I gave the pimp years ago which was posted wasn't my real name. Real low life tactics.

For those who may be thinking of going . This is the pimpess you should NEVER give your real name to.

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[vt]

Are you aware of any ?

I've tried a few of the alternatives, they have their merits, but they all have their own issues, see my reviews. 

I've been to the new TPC venue twice now, the OP is right regarding the venue's decor, just one shower & towel rationing, but I'm primarily there for the girls. With the right lineup of under-35 hotties you can still have a lot of fun for £160. The sheer number of parties per week and easy booking procedure makes it very easy to visit.

Especially for you Sinz because you love my indisputable mathematical logic so much...with 6 girls as the OP had, it's £26.67 per girl (£160 divided by 6)...less than a Soho walk-up...deal of the century!! 

Hopefully Em will take heed of the OP's feedback, sort the various issues highlighted and reaffirm TPC's position as a premium party venue.

[TheBerkshirehunt]

tell me what's out there now and better?

And this, in a nutshell is the problem.   

5-6 years ago, Em's LMP was the gold standard. Today, Em's TPC is a shadow of its former self. Costs going up is understandable. Quality going down is not. She knows how to throw a good party, but in 2017 seems she can't, or won't.

By saying she won't, she basically taking the piss out of her customers, who are quite rightly pissed off in return, especially as there's no alternative.

If she can't recapture former glories at the current price point, she should be honest about it and either increase costs, or call it a day.

[smiths]

I've tried a few of the alternatives, they have their merits, but they all have their own issues, see my reviews. 

I've been to the new TPC venue twice now, the OP is right regarding the venue's decor, just one shower & towel rationing, but I'm primarily there for the girls. With the right lineup of under-35 hotties you can still have a lot of fun for £160. The sheer number of parties per week and easy booking procedure makes it very easy to visit.

Especially for you Sinz because you love my indisputable mathematical logic so much...with 6 girls as the OP had, it's £26.67 per girl (£160 divided by 6)...less than a Soho walk-up...deal of the century!! 

Hopefully Em will take heed of the OP's feedback, sort the various issues highlighted and reaffirm TPC's position as a premium party venue.

And here he is with his usual damage control, touting away. Em WILL be happy with you once again, wont get you anywhere on here if what the OP who has previously done 2 positives on TPC is still the case, it WILL get on here sooner or later, not ALL punters can be bought.

[Sinz]

I've tried a few of the alternatives, they have their merits, but they all have their own issues, see my reviews. 

I've been to the new TPC venue twice now, the OP is right regarding the venue's decor, just one shower & towel rationing, but I'm primarily there for the girls. With the right lineup of under-35 hotties you can still have a lot of fun for £160. The sheer number of parties per week and easy booking procedure makes it very easy to visit.

Especially for you Sinz because you love my indisputable mathematical logic so much...with 6 girls as the OP had, it's £26.67 per girl (£160 divided by 6)...less than a Soho walk-up...deal of the century!! 

Hopefully Em will take heed of the OP's feedback, sort the various issues highlighted and reaffirm TPC's position as a premium party venue.

Every punter is there for the WGs mate, that does not mean they can expect us to punt in a shit hole. You been there twice and saw the appalling state and service of TPC but still dint bother to report it and moreover you still have the audacity to defend them again here?

No one other than yourself is deluded enough to believe your mathematical logic of stupidity. Service and attitude matters, no matter how cheap they offer the service. 

[vt]

And here he is with his usual damage control, touting away. Em WILL be happy with you once again, wont get you anywhere on here if what the OP who has previously done 2 positives on TPC is still the case, it WILL get on here sooner or later, not ALL punters can be bought.

It's just my personal opinion smiths, as you are entitled to yours. I can speak with personal experience and am putting my money where my mouth is, why would I waste 2 entry fees in recent months if it really was piss-poor VFM and there was something better out there for the money??

The OP certainly sounds like he got his £26.67 worth out of Cindy. 

I agreed that the various issues pointed out by the OP do need addressing, but as others have said, the absence of serious competition seems to have allowed room for standards to slip. I'm definitely not excusing it though.

[TrevorN]

I was bang on the money in a post earlier that VT will appear to spin TPC in a positive light . How right I was ....

[vt]

I was bang on the money in a post earlier that VT will appear to spin TPC in a positive light . How right I was ....

While your prescient powers are so strong, can you give us tomorrow's Lottery numbers too?? 

[smiths]

It's just my personal opinion smiths, as you are entitled to yours. I can speak with personal experience and am putting my money where my mouth is, why would I waste 2 entry fees in recent months if it really was piss-poor VFM and there was something better out there for the money??

The OP certainly sounds like he got his £26.67 worth out of Cindy. 

I agreed that the various issues pointed out by the OP do need addressing, but as others have said, the absence of serious competition seems to have allowed room for standards to slip. I'm definitely not excusing it though.

This assumes I believe you went to TPC and if you did you paid, I don't believe anything you post, you are a TPC tout with previous for getting a then secret discount off a pimp, such people can never be trusted in my view.

You are posting to limit the damage of this review as best you can, your usual is to agree there are problems, but then add but you have been happy with TPC, its so obvious others have noticed, that's the problem with touts, they simply HAVE to tout.

The standards have slipped because Em and Moss if he is really still involved have allowed them to slip, they never let them slip when I went to LMP so its been a decision they have made. And its some paying punters who have paid the price while they count the cash.

[Thepacifist]

I ended up fucking her for almost 45 minutes. I was greedy with her. OWO, RO, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, mish, doggy, standing fuck - I hogged her

That's not the spirit and you know it. 

Sharing is caring.

I didn't know TPC had moved venues. I agree it's a shame if Emily is no longer there.

Take me back to the days where I was an 18 year old lad corrupted by Antonia, Jewels and Jennifer to name but a few..

[smiths]

That's not the spirit and you know it. 

Sharing is caring.

I didn't know TPC had moved venues. I agree it's a shame if Emily is no longer there.

Take me back to the days where I was an 18 year old lad corrupted by Antonia, Jewels and Jennifer to name but a few..

Yes indeed though I was much older, those 3 were all faves of mine and I add Kelly, Summer Raine pre-tit job and my all-time fave party WG anywhere Shamila. The party standard in ALL areas was fantastic then back in Lancaster Gate.

[Sinz]

Every punter is there for the WGs mate, that does not mean they can expect us to punt in a shit hole. You been there twice and saw the appalling state and service of TPC but still dint bother to report it and moreover you still have the audacity to defend them again here?

No one other than yourself is deluded enough to believe your mathematical logic of stupidity. Service and attitude matters, no matter how cheap they offer the service.

So since you have no response to what I have asked above, you rather continue making stupid comments like below? Grow up mate. Stop being a white-knight and be reasonable.

While your prescient powers are so strong, can you give us tomorrow's Lottery numbers too?? 

[punk]

This assumes I believe you went to TPC and if you did you paid, I don't believe anything you post, you are a TPC tout with previous for getting a then secret discount off a pimp, such people can never be trusted in my view.

You are posting to limit the damage of this review as best you can, your usual is to agree there are problems, but then add but you have been happy with TPC, its so obvious others have noticed, that's the problem with touts, they simply HAVE to tout.

The standards have slipped because Em and Moss if he is really still involved have allowed them to slip, they never let them slip when I went to LMP so its been a decision they have made. And its some paying punters who have paid the price while they count the cash.

That is one of the reasons why any one would be crazy to give out details about themselves to any prossies,pimp,white knight or tout.

It will come back and bite you in the arse.

[vt]

This assumes I believe you went to TPC and if you did you paid, I don't believe anything you post, you are a TPC tout with previous for getting a then secret discount off a pimp, such people can never be trusted in my view.

You are posting to limit the damage of this review as best you can, your usual is to agree there are problems, but then add but you have been happy with TPC, its so obvious others have noticed, that's the problem with touts, they simply HAVE to tout.

The standards have slipped because Em and Moss if he is really still involved have allowed them to slip, they never let them slip when I went to LMP so its been a decision they have made. And its some paying punters who have paid the price while they count the cash.

Well I have been there and paid with my own hard-earned, why the fuck would I make it up?? 

I haven't excused any of the OP's feedback, I've called for improvements to the punter experience. I'm trying to be balanced & neutral on this.

If standards have slipped, it may not be a deliberate decision as such, but a waning interest. Still not good for punters if that's the case. Bad feedback like the OP's review will result, so it's in their interest to take heed and make any necessary improvements.

I'm pretty sure Moss is off the scene now, I haven't seen him for years, since it was LMP. I don't know why he interjected on TPC's behalf recently on here. Em introduced an Asian guy to us attendees as her new 'husband' at a party last year.

[vt]

Every punter is there for the WGs mate, that does not mean they can expect us to punt in a shit hole. You been there twice and saw the appalling state and service of TPC but still dint bother to report it and moreover you still have the audacity to defend them again here?

No one other than yourself is deluded enough to believe your mathematical logic of stupidity. Service and attitude matters, no matter how cheap they offer the service.

Sorry for not replying, I've got a whole backlash to deal with here! Perhaps now you'll see why I haven't posted about visiting before, all the usual suspects who haven't been near TPC jump on me with all their spurious accusations. 

I always choose to attend when there's a lineup of girls I fancy, so I've had good service on both my recent visits.

I've met 2 new girls at my last party that impressed...Elsa, a mid-20s adventurous Swede alt-girl, she got me all revved up with her unusual hairy bush and horny responses, then Honey, a petite E Mids MILF milked me dry with her tight pussy. Great service & attitude from both! 

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Up to you whether you believe I attended or not. I've got no reason to make shit up. Check out my varied reviews, I'm not a one-trick pony, but I still enjoy visiting TPC. If you don't want to, don't! Nobody's forcing anyone. It'll just be quieter for me next time if you don't.

Over & out! 

[smiths]

Well I have been there and paid with my own hard-earned, why the fuck would I make it up?? 

I haven't excused any of the OP's feedback, I've called for improvements to the punter experience. I'm trying to be balanced & neutral on this.

If standards have slipped, it may not be a deliberate decision as such, but a waning interest. Still not good for punters if that's the case. Bad feedback like the OP's review will result, so it's in their interest to take heed and make any necessary improvements.

I'm pretty sure Moss is off the scene now, I haven't seen him for years, since it was LMP. I don't know why he interjected on TPC's behalf recently on here. Em introduced an Asian guy to us attendees as her new 'husband' at a party last year.

Because you are a TPC tout that's why, the point I made was I wouldn't know whether or when you have been to TPC as I dont believe your word. The problem you have on here now is others apart from me know you are a TPC tout and you are making it more and more obvious, but you must tout and defend TPC. You must of been gutted when you saw this negative review, how to spin and defend this one, from a punter who has done 2 previous positives on TPC. TPC sure aren't making it easy for you, it would be easier to just offer ALL punters a good service.

It certainly IS a decision TPC have taken to offer some punters a worse service as that's what they have done as a number of punters have posted on here, again you attempt to excuse them with bullshit reasoning that doesn't stack up to me. If they could offer a great service when it was LMP which was almost universally praised then they could do so now but choose not to for whatever reason.

As to whether that poster was Moss or not I don't know but in their only other post they called me their good friend, as soon as I criticise TPC I get a mouthful, you couldn't make it up. If you dare criticise TPC they get all nasty, just proving what pimps are really like when push comes to shove.

[Sinz]

Sorry for not replying, I've got a whole backlash to deal with here! Perhaps now you'll see why I haven't posted about visiting before, all the usual suspects who haven't been near TPC jump on me with all their spurious accusations. 

I always choose to attend when there's a lineup of girls I fancy, so I've had good service on both my recent visits.

I've met 2 new girls at my last party that impressed...Elsa, a mid-20s adventurous Swede alt-girl, she got me all revved up with her unusual hairy bush and horny responses, then Honey, a petite E Mids MILF milked me dry with her tight pussy. Great service & attitude from both! 

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Up to you whether you believe I attended or not. I've got no reason to make shit up. Check out my varied reviews, I'm not a one-trick pony, but I still enjoy visiting TPC. If you don't want to, don't! Nobody's forcing anyone. It'll just be quieter for me next time if you don't.

Over & out! 

I was going to say thanks for the helpful feedback and update on the new addition. But your last line, highlighted above sounds like a whinging bully who pretends he is not scared and talks bull shit to make himself feel better.

I also have news for you mate, the reason is TPC is in this awful shit state is because they are not making much money as they used to. So NO you are not going to get a quieter fun time, they will shut shop and wont exist anymore. Unless they actually plan to up their game.

[smiths]

Sorry for not replying, I've got a whole backlash to deal with here! Perhaps now you'll see why I haven't posted about visiting before, all the usual suspects who haven't been near TPC jump on me with all their spurious accusations. 

I always choose to attend when there's a lineup of girls I fancy, so I've had good service on both my recent visits.

I've met 2 new girls at my last party that impressed...Elsa, a mid-20s adventurous Swede alt-girl, she got me all revved up with her unusual hairy bush and horny responses, then Honey, a petite E Mids MILF milked me dry with her tight pussy. Great service & attitude from both! 

External Link/Members Only

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

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Up to you whether you believe I attended or not. I've got no reason to make shit up. Check out my varied reviews, I'm not a one-trick pony, but I still enjoy visiting TPC. If you don't want to, don't! Nobody's forcing anyone. It'll just be quieter for me next time if you don't.

Over & out! 

Getting even more blatant with the touting now, Em will be even happier with you.

[smiths]

That is one of the reasons why any one would be crazy to give out details about themselves to any prossies,pimp,white knight or tout.

It will come back and bite you in the arse.

Absolutely right, and why I will continue to warn punters on any TPC threads I see on here, you dare criticise TPC on here and they get nasty with low life tactics.

[SirCharles]

For those who may be thinking of going . This is the pimpess you should NEVER give your real name to.

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But we know her...Emm Emma on FB 

[YidArmy]

Get the twin daughters in there and then we'll be queuing up for a crack at them.

I don't know why there is so little competition in this market. Rent a decent flat, get some sexy young whores..bit of food and drink. How hard can that be to sort out?

If i didn't already have a career i'd have a go at it myself. Near 10 million people in this city and you would think there would be loads of parties to choose from but the reverse appears to be true.

[SirCharles]

Get the twin daughters in there and then we'll be queuing up for a crack at them.

I don't know why there is so little competition in this market. Rent a decent flat, get some sexy young whores..bit of food and drink. How hard can that be to sort out?

If i didn't already have a career i'd have a go at it myself. Near 10 million people in this city and you would think there would be loads of parties to choose from but the reverse appears to be true.

I was thinking about the same: you don't need to be Killing Kittens to make money!
I keep on thinking about that but i have a career too...

[vt]

Get the twin daughters in there and then we'll be queuing up for a crack at them.

I don't know why there is so little competition in this market. Rent a decent flat, get some sexy young whores..bit of food and drink. How hard can that be to sort out?

If i didn't already have a career i'd have a go at it myself. Near 10 million people in this city and you would think there would be loads of parties to choose from but the reverse appears to be true.

The amount of party outfits that start up and fold, it can't be as easy as it looks.

There are a lot of fixed costs...girls, venue, laundry, etc, so quite a high break-even point, so if you don't get reliable bookings, it can easily make a loss. Then there's all the backroom people management stuff that must be a nightmare.

From my observations as a punter at TPC and hearing snippets from Em & the girls, I reckon it takes a lot of drive & determination to keep a successful party outfit on track.

[smiths]

Get the twin daughters in there and then we'll be queuing up for a crack at them.

I don't know why there is so little competition in this market. Rent a decent flat, get some sexy young whores..bit of food and drink. How hard can that be to sort out?

If i didn't already have a career i'd have a go at it myself. Near 10 million people in this city and you would think there would be loads of parties to choose from but the reverse appears to be true.

The potential risk is why I imagine, a number of party providers in London have had police or tax problems in the last few years, GP Parties organiser got a POCA order of £100,000 against him though he must of made millions in his years running GP, I assume he spent it living a great lifestyle, he was too thick to have been smart enough to launder it properly in my view. Pams Parties got raided by HMRC and Sacred Rose had a police visit and closed, no idea if they got done or not though.

TPC when it was LMP had a nosey neighbour and had a police visit so renamed it TPC and advertised it more like a swingers site, it even said maybe still does that the £160 isn't for sex, the police really aren't THAT stupid, its a risky game, but with potentially high reward. Personally I wouldn't fancy being done for being a pimp so the reward would never be high enough for the risk.

[TrevorN]

Then there's all the backroom people management stuff that must be a nightmare.

Backroom people management . You mean more pimps on the payroll ?

[vt]

Backroom people management . You mean more pimps on the payroll ?

No, getting multiple prossies to all turn up at the same time & place, the phrase herding cats comes to mind, then motivating them to offer good service and not be lazy and let others take up the slack.

[SirCharles]

Backroom people management . You mean more pimps on the payroll ?

Backroom people at TPC were Barbara and Emily...maybe a cleaner+ PR people like VT, i suspect 
Also, i always asked myself if TPC is currently profitable and   if ever had troubles with HMRC or Police who, i am sure, visited it

[smiths]

Backroom people management . You mean more pimps on the payroll ?

Someone to make the drinks and act as a minder type and let punters in and out, one of the WGs to help out but only join in the punting if another one didn't turn up, that and the pimp are the only staff needed max.

John at LAPC used to run it with just him when in Hatton Garden as did GP parties at their weekday parties in Bow, less WGs and punters than the max that could be at TPC though, but certainly no more than 3 people needed not including the WGs at any party of the size of TPC.

Then they have to involve a landlord who will be asking for an above market rent for the risk involved, sort out the laundry IF they bother doing it, LMP certainly did, it was 3 enormous sacks that had to be dropped off by car at a launderette for them to clean, that would of cost a good few quid. The biggest problem is getting reliable WGs and getting enough punters to pay them and cover costs, at TPC like LMP the model of 3 parties per day means they have 3 bites of the cherry per day, this is what allows them to cover costs, assuming they DO get enough punters nowadays to cover costs, LMP when I went was usually at least 10 of a max of 14 punters per party often full and I never did less than 2 parties per visit, they must of been making great money then.

[SirCharles]

Someone to make the drinks and act as a minder type and let punters in and out, one of the WGs to help out but only join in the punting if another one didn't turn up, that and the pimp are the only staff needed max.

John at LAPC used to run it with just him when in Hatton Garden as did GP parties at their weekday parties in Bow, less WGs and punters than the max that could be at TPC though, but certainly no more than 3 people needed not including the WGs at any party of the size of TPC.

Then they have to involve a landlord who will be asking for an above market rent for the risk involved, sort out the laundry IF they bother doing it, LMP certainly did, it was 3 enormous sacks that had to be dropped off by car at a launderette for them to clean, that would of cost a good few quid. The biggest problem is getting reliable WGs and getting enough punters to pay them and cover costs, at TPC like LMP the model of 3 parties per day means they have 3 bites of the cherry per day, this is what allows them to cover costs, assuming they DO get enough punters nowadays to cover costs, LMP when I went was usually at least 10 of a max of 14 punters per party often full and I never did less than 2 parties per visit, they must of been making great money then.

400£*5= £2000 costs for the WG
£160*30= £4800 rev if fully booked, per day...but, what if 15-20 people only?
No taxes paid is a bless...renting? £10-12k p.month?

[vt]

Someone to make the drinks and act as a minder type and let punters in and out, one of the WGs to help out but only join in the punting if another one didn't turn up, that and the pimp are the only staff needed max.

John at LAPC used to run it with just him when in Hatton Garden as did GP parties at their weekday parties in Bow, less WGs and punters than the max that could be at TPC though, but certainly no more than 3 people needed not including the WGs at any party of the size of TPC.

Then they have to involve a landlord who will be asking for an above market rent for the risk involved, sort out the laundry IF they bother doing it, LMP certainly did, it was 3 enormous sacks that had to be dropped off by car at a launderette for them to clean, that would of cost a good few quid. The biggest problem is getting reliable WGs and getting enough punters to pay them and cover costs, at TPC like LMP the model of 3 parties per day means they have 3 bites of the cherry per day, this is what allows them to cover costs, assuming they DO get enough punters nowadays to cover costs, LMP when I went was usually at least 10 of a max of 14 punters per party often full and I never did less than 2 parties per visit, they must of been making great money then.

Same as with the OP, it was full when I attended recently, 12 guys & 6 girls, so it's definitely still attracting punters, but of course that's only a snapshot of one party out of 17 that week, I've no idea about the others.

[smiths]

400£*5= £2000 costs for the WG
£160*30= £4800 rev if fully booked, per day...but, what if 15-20 people only?
No taxes paid is a bless...renting? £10-12k p.month?

Punters not showing is the problem all parties have, LMP was so good when I was going that they didn't get that many no shows when I went and I often heard them turning punters away on the phone as they were at the max 2.1 ratio. No doubt the rent will be a lot due to the location and the landlord wanting a cut.

Paying no taxes is only a bless until and unless HMRC and POCA catch up with you when it becomes a nightmare, Em will have many years making millions to explain. And the big problem is its all online, her whole past with LMP and TPC to be traced back. That's the risk pimps take.