Forum newbies and in a few cases trolls

[Redpunter]

After a day of disharmony and strife caused by a (newbie/ troll) who interjected with a negative remark every time he posted yesterday in everyone of his six posts.
Also his first posts since he joined a month ago in January we now have returned to a semblance of normality on the Northern Ireland section thanks to the timely intervention of our moderator daviemac who I wish to thank.
I would make the observation that some of our new members have not taken the time to read the rules or observe the running and general decorum of the forum before entering the fray so to speak.
Obviously there are some trolls who have slipped under the radar and time will weed them out due to the diligence of our moderator who has a thankless task.
To our newbies you are all very welcome after a period of no new membership but please study the forum before you rock the boat, there are many answers to all your questions in the search panel which will save you a lot of time and effort.

[catweazle]

Well said. I would add that the forum has been running quite satisfactorily for many years, so any suggestions about new sections, or how it is run, won't work. Newbies blazing in telling long-established admins, mods or owners how to run things, or how to interpret the rules are likely to get very short shrift indeed 

[FLYING BLUE]

100% in agreement.

Thankless task for the mods on here.

Frankly, I've been amazed at the piss poor attitude of so many of the new members (whilst others have quickly created reports & integrated well) - I hope the forums settle down soon as newer members make more and more useful contributions.

[Strada79]

Having been a moderator on a national forum myself in times gone by I don’t envy the work of the mods on here, especially given the nature of the topic.

[Ali Katt]

I try to be fair and take certain things into account, someone who has reviews or is a long standing member (puns as always intended) has a bit more clout than a one post member. And don't ban people if I have had personal spats with them on politics or just general ways of punting.

What makes it more difficult is while I have been a member since 2011 and punting since around 2007\2008. I appreciate some members are new to this and what to me seems obvious like sending a text message, using AW search engine or general etiquette can be a huge mindfield (not minefield) for some people especially if they are introverted, anxious or have mental health issues.

Another factor is during the lockdown I appreciate some people are bored so we have seen a lot of recycling of old topics and some nonsense topics which is fine if they are genuine.

[Ali Katt]

100% in agreement.

Thankless task for the mods on here.

Frankly, I've been amazed at the piss poor attitude of so many of the new members (whilst others have quickly created reports & integrated well) - I hope the forums settle down soon as newer members make more and more useful contributions.

Believe me we know who they are.

[Little Joe]

My opinion for what it is worth is that I agree with every well meant word in the posts above. They are mature observations, the issue I would have though, is the temptation for some established members to flex their muscles at the first opportunity. That approach is not going to cause angst for a genuine troll, it will be water of a ducks back for them, but it is likely to make many new guys wary of sticking their head above the parapet. How many for instance start their first review with words such as ‘this is my first review so please go easy on me’ , for fear of being called out.
As for new members giving suggestions, I run a successful business and one of the reasons it is successful is because I listen and encourage the workforce to make what ever suggestions for improvement they can come up with......I never know when the golden nugget is going to show up that I can use. The rest I can just leave to one side but I’d never for one second call out a new guy for a well meant suggestion......a fresh pair of eyes and all that.

I have been on the end of a sounding out since I joined, about three posts in, the inference being you keep your proverbial mouth shut until you have posted reviews otherwise assumption is your talking crap, that’s not really helpful is it?
......but it’s a great forum site .

[Redpunter]

Keep going Little Joe even I get some contrary comments but in general the information gleaned is worth the effort, welcome aboard and keep safe.

[daviemac]

I have been on the end of a sounding out since I joined, about three posts in, the inference being you keep your proverbial mouth shut until you have posted reviews otherwise assumption is your talking crap, that’s not really helpful is it?
......but it’s a great forum site .

Hang on here, let's just look at this, your post history.

#1 - post on a COVID thread, now deleted as it was against the rules.

#2 - description of an escort's exact location, deleted as in breach of rule #22

#3 - another post on the CV thread.

#4 - no comment just an emoji - 

#5 - you start a thread 'Women talk too much'

I haven't read all of those threads or those you have subsequently posted on so can you link to where this applies. - " I have been on the end of a sounding out since I joined, about three posts in, the inference being you keep your proverbial mouth shut until you have posted reviews otherwise assumption is your talking crap"

[Thephoenix]

My opinion for what it is worth is that I agree with every well meant word in the posts above. They are mature observations, the issue I would have though, is the temptation for some established members to flex their muscles at the first opportunity. That approach is not going to cause angst for a genuine troll, it will be water of a ducks back for them, but it is likely to make many new guys wary of sticking their head above the parapet. How many for instance start their first review with words such as ‘this is my first review so please go easy on me’ , for fear of being called out.
As for new members giving suggestions, I run a successful business and one of the reasons it is successful is because I listen and encourage the workforce to make what ever suggestions for improvement they can come up with......I never know when the golden nugget is going to show up that I can use. The rest I can just leave to one side but I’d never for one second call out a new guy for a well meant suggestion......a fresh pair of eyes and all that.

I have been on the end of a sounding out since I joined, about three posts in, the inference being you keep your proverbial mouth shut until you have posted reviews otherwise assumption is your talking crap, that’s not really helpful is it?
......but it’s a great forum site .

Well said Little Joe.

It's only to be expected with such a large influx of new members.

You're obviously able to stand your ground. Others less confident and eloquent may well be reluctant to post anything else if they're ambushed on their first post.

In time you'll realise that whilst many of the posts by the big numbers on here rightly deserve respect, it certainly doesn't always follow that they're correct.
There's some huge egos on here that should be able to be challenged no matter how long you've been a member.

The difficulty and frustration faced by the mods is trying to sort out the wheat from the chaff.

[Hobbit]

My opinion for what it is worth is that I agree with every well meant word in the posts above. They are mature observations, the issue I would have though, is the temptation for some established members to flex their muscles at the first opportunity. That approach is not going to cause angst for a genuine troll, it will be water of a ducks back for them, but it is likely to make many new guys wary of sticking their head above the parapet. How many for instance start their first review with words such as ‘this is my first review so please go easy on me’ , for fear of being called out.
As for new members giving suggestions, I run a successful business and one of the reasons it is successful is because I listen and encourage the workforce to make what ever suggestions for improvement they can come up with......I never know when the golden nugget is going to show up that I can use. The rest I can just leave to one side but I’d never for one second call out a new guy for a well meant suggestion......a fresh pair of eyes and all that.

I have been on the end of a sounding out since I joined, about three posts in, the inference being you keep your proverbial mouth shut until you have posted reviews otherwise assumption is your talking crap, that’s not really helpful is it?
......but it’s a great forum site .

I guess there's a difference between encouraging people to be more supporting to the community and talking crap. Crap is always crap and easily recognized. As the old saying goes, "you can't polish a turd, even if it's freshly baked". 

[Lou2019]

100% in agreement.

Thankless task for the mods on here.

Frankly, I've been amazed at the piss poor attitude of so many of the new members (whilst others have quickly created reports & integrated well) - I hope the forums settle down soon as newer members make more and more useful contributions.

big up to Daviemac! joking aside he does an amazing job I don’t know where he gets his patience  from to be honest, I think I have a little crush on him wink wink

[Hobbit]

big up to Daviemac! joking aside he does an amazing job I don’t know where he gets his patience  from to be honest, I think I have a little crush on him wink wink

I thought you didn't provide Rimming as a service? 

[daviemac]

big up to Daviemac! joking aside he does an amazing job I don’t know where he gets his patience  from to be honest, I think I have a little crush on him wink wink

Thank you for the compliment, I do my best and will always be helpful where I can, unfortunately some new members just can't take advice.

 

[LLPunting]

My opinion for what it is worth is that I agree with every well meant word in the posts above. They are mature observations, the issue I would have though, is the temptation for some established members to flex their muscles at the first opportunity. That approach is not going to cause angst for a genuine troll, it will be water of a ducks back for them, but it is likely to make many new guys wary of sticking their head above the parapet. How many for instance start their first review with words such as ‘this is my first review so please go easy on me’ , for fear of being called out.
As for new members giving suggestions, I run a successful business and one of the reasons it is successful is because I listen and encourage the workforce to make what ever suggestions for improvement they can come up with......I never know when the golden nugget is going to show up that I can use. The rest I can just leave to one side but I’d never for one second call out a new guy for a well meant suggestion......a fresh pair of eyes and all that.

I have been on the end of a sounding out since I joined, about three posts in, the inference being you keep your proverbial mouth shut until you have posted reviews otherwise assumption is your talking crap, that’s not really helpful is it?
......but it’s a great forum site .

This is a forum of the written word, it maintains a record of all topics discussed, the main thrust of which is to share experiences about punting.  I.e.  Why a genuine punter joins.

The WHOLE point of the record is so that members, new or veteran can review that wisdom, without needlessly, disrespectfully, lazily just asking again and expecting all the wisdom to be RE-written again.
The "bullying" as you consider it is NOT a load of shits and giggles for those that dish it out it is utter frustration that yet another selfish, self-indulgent individual, having shown no respect to the site and membership by referring to all the past nuggets of wisdom, should think they deserve charitable treatment.  They get the barracking because we are charitable enough, most of the time, to not consider them deliberate trolls who are posting for shits and giggles.

Since the re-opening of registrations there have been numerous postings of repeat topics, not just of things discussed months ago or ongoing for years, but also of repeat topics raised since the the re-opening. 

If you're of the ilk to constantly harp TLDR then best you leave the site permanently and revert to audio/video chat rooms.

[sparkus]

I try to be fair and take certain things into account, someone who has reviews or is a long standing member (puns as always intended) has a bit more clout than a one post member. And don't ban people if I have had personal spats with them on politics or just general ways of punting.

What makes it more difficult is while I have been a member since 2011 and punting since around 2007\2008. I appreciate some members are new to this and what to me seems obvious like sending a text message, using AW search engine or general etiquette can be a huge mindfield (not minefield) for some people especially if they are introverted, anxious or have mental health issues.

Another factor is during the lockdown I appreciate some people are bored so we have seen a lot of recycling of old topics and some nonsense topics which is fine if they are genuine.

Likewise 2007, was a vintage year.

[Little Joe]

Hang on here, let's just look at this, your post history.

#1 - post on a COVID thread, now deleted as it was against the rules.

#2 - description of an escort's exact location, deleted as in breach of rule #22

#3 - another post on the CV thread.

#4 - no comment just an emoji - 

#5 - you start a thread 'Women talk too much'

I haven't read all of those threads or those you have subsequently posted on so can you link to where this applies. - " I have been on the end of a sounding out since I joined, about three posts in, the inference being you keep your proverbial mouth shut until you have posted reviews otherwise assumption is your talking crap"

Well intended comments have been misconstrued.... I’ll leave it at that and move on.

[Little Joe]

Well said Little Joe.

It's only to be expected with such a large influx of new members.

You're obviously able to stand your ground. Others less confident and eloquent may well be reluctant to post anything else if they're ambushed on their first post.

In time you'll realise that whilst many of the posts by the big numbers on here rightly deserve respect, it certainly doesn't always follow that they're correct.
There's some huge egos on here that should be able to be challenged no matter how long you've been a member.

The difficulty and frustration faced by the mods is trying to sort out the wheat from the chaff.

I appreciate your constructive comments.....the problem I have now is how can one possibly contribute to this thread subject matter in any way that would not bring forth abusive and argumentative comments...I expect even this post will be subject to accusations of this or that rather than an acceptance that it is simply an unthreatening opinion.
I honestly would think a balancing view would be welcomed how else does one debate. It’s pointless us all having sycophantic tendencies.
But, if that’s the culture of the forum then I guess that’s the culture....I’ll adapt to it.

[Mrchristmastree]

Being a newbie is the same as going to a party in real life.
Just smile, add little bits and work you way in the group.

Your sure as fuck don’t start telling the host how to run his own party.

[daviemac]

Well intended comments have been misconstrued.... I’ll leave it at that and move on.

Please don't report post asking for clarification on anything I have said, it should be posted on the forum for everyone to see.

#1 - post on a COVID thread, now deleted as it was against the rules.

#2 - description of an escort's exact location, deleted as in breach of rule #22

Your first and third posts were on a thread on a topic that was not allowed. your second was "Just type in xxxxxxxxx in google. it will show you exactly where she is". Both the thread you posted on and your second post were deleted as they breached the rules. The description of the escort's location being the most serious.

[daviemac]

I appreciate your constructive comments.....the problem I have now is how can one possibly contribute to this thread subject matter in any way that would not bring forth abusive and argumentative comments...I expect even this post will be subject to accusations of this or that rather than an acceptance that it is simply an unthreatening opinion.
I honestly would think a balancing view would be welcomed how else does one debate. It’s pointless us all having sycophantic tendencies.
But, if that’s the culture of the forum then I guess that’s the culture....I’ll adapt to it.

This thread was not started as a topic for debate, it was started by a fairly established member to outline one particular problem that occurred and to give some advice to newbies about how the site works and how to get the best out of it. Unfortunately some do not see it that way.

 

I would make the observation that some of our new members have not taken the time to read the rules or observe the running and general decorum of the forum before entering the fray so to speak.
Obviously there are some trolls who have slipped under the radar and time will weed them out due to the diligence of our moderator who has a thankless task.
To our newbies you are all very welcome after a period of no new membership but please study the forum before you rock the boat, there are many answers to all your questions in the search panel which will save you a lot of time and effort.

All very sound advice.

[Little Joe]

Please don't report post asking for clarification on anything I have said, it should be posted on the forum for everyone to see.
Your first and third posts were on a thread on a topic that was not allowed. your second was "Just type in xxxxxxxxx in google. it will show you exactly where she is". Both the thread you posted on and your second post were deleted as they breached the rules. The description of the escort's location being the most serious.

Not sure what topic is not allowed....I’ve noticed a couple of threads linked to the Covid issue, one of which was started in the last few days. Apologies in advance for any contravention, I really don’t know what you are alluding to.
Re the location issue.... I fully endorse locations should not be disclosed in a specific way, I didn’t disclose the location but I can see it is mentioned  on other threads if it’s the one I’m thinking about. The actual block is quite huge so no danger done I wouldn’t think.
Only reason I ‘reported’ was because I cannot send a pm.
Can we leave it at that .

[vindici]

...the issue I would have though, is the temptation for some established members to flex their muscles at the first opportunity. ...How many for instance start their first review with words such as ‘this is my first review so please go easy on me’ , for fear of being called out...

I'm sorry, but that is a load of rubbish. This forum has a certain culture, some of which was intended and the rest has cultivated over years of membership and management changes.

When someone new chimes in with something that jars with the culture, they will be called out by the established membership. There are ways of doing this constructively, and that is how I personally try to do it, and try to call out those who take it a little too far. However calling out newbies is how we maintain the culture of the site.

The sensible thing to do, would be to create an account, read the forum regularly, observe and try to understand the culture, and how things are done here, only after that should one jump in.

Some people however just can't help "opening their mouths" before their brain is engaged, those members will get a baptism of fire and either shape up, go silent or get kicked pretty swiftly. All three of those options are, in my opinion, good for the long term health of the forum.

Go and read my very first review, the initial comments were from a senior member, and thanks to his constructive feedback, I've been able to contribute more effectively through the years.

I have been on the end of a sounding out since I joined, about three posts in, the inference being you keep your proverbial mouth shut until you have posted reviews otherwise assumption is your talking crap, that’s not really helpful is it?

I think it's extremely helpful that those who have contributed fuck all, are designated as having no credibility, clout or status. This site is primarily about reviews and contribution that helps your fellow punters, all other discussion is prioritised way lower, and that's how we like it.

[vindici]

...
Re the location issue.... I fully endorse locations should not be disclosed in a specific way, I didn’t disclose the location but I can see it is mentioned  on other threads if it’s the one I’m thinking about. The actual block is quite huge so no danger done I wouldn’t think.

22 Privacy of service providers
It is generally not allowed to post personal info of service providers, such as real names and personal social networking profiles and photos from messenger providers like WhatsApp.To clarify this means no personal photos at all from anywhere. Phone numbers may be posted in full if the number is anywhere online on an advert, personal numbers not allowed. Hotels may be named but not room numbers
 General description of in-call locations is acceptable, but not specific house numbers and/or street names. Modeling, porn, and media-related work are acceptable to be posted, even if it includes their real names as they actively sought publicity / higher-profile. Any news items may be posted. All aforementioned restrictions do not apply to thieves and those with criminal convictions. Past name changes are never censored, regardless of reasons.



Read the rules for fuck's sake 🤦‍♂️

[Little Joe]

22 Privacy of service providers
It is generally not allowed to post personal info of service providers, such as real names and personal social networking profiles and photos from messenger providers like WhatsApp.To clarify this means no personal photos at all from anywhere. Phone numbers may be posted in full if the number is anywhere online on an advert, personal numbers not allowed. Hotels may be named but not room numbers
 General description of in-call locations is acceptable, but not specific house numbers and/or street names. Modeling, porn, and media-related work are acceptable to be posted, even if it includes their real names as they actively sought publicity / higher-profile. Any news items may be posted. All aforementioned restrictions do not apply to thieves and those with criminal convictions. Past name changes are never censored, regardless of reasons.



Read the rules for fuck's sake 🤦‍♂️

Read my post.....I never and never would post a location. It was posted by the reviewer not moi, and was no more specific than any number of buildings that are referred to in many posts....in fact it would have been far less specific than a hotel name. All I said was stick the name in Google. Same as if, and I’ve seen it, the location is opposite the Raddisson in Brum, you might Google Raddisson to find the location.....I would think that was ok but maybe not.
 Why the need to be arsy.....are you a trainee moderator.....I think the mod looking at this is capable of making his point without your sycophantic involvement.

[winkywanky]

Good thread, worthwhile thread, and some good responses  .

My personal issue with some newbies, and it's nothing to do with being a punting site, it could be any forum, or infact any 'real' club in the real world, where you physically meet real people.

The issue is where the newbie says something a little naive, silly, possibly inflammatory, whatever (even unintentionally), and then if an established member politely points this out to them, there is instant confrontation/bad attitude in return.

That is guaranteed to piss off other members. If you're new, get a feel for the place. Get a feel for the etiquette. Get a feel for the community, because community is what it is.

That's bad enough, but I frequently see this attitude being used with Mods FFS  . Mods. They are the ones with Board Moderator clearly written above their avatar They give their time for free (as far as I know  ) to ensure relative harmony, fair play and adherence to the rules. Give the guys a break  .

You're in a new club, have some manners, don't upset the ambiance. Otherwise, bog off  .

[Blackpool Rock]

100% in agreement.

Thankless task for the mods on here.

Frankly, I've been amazed at the piss poor attitude of so many of the new members (whilst others have quickly created reports & integrated well) - I hope the forums settle down soon as newer members make more and more useful contributions.

The thing is there have been around 16500 new registrations in the last 6-7 weeks since the doors were opened again which is a massive influx / surge in a very short space of time.
Not sure how many bannings but probably only about 300-400 and i'd have expected more, additionally if there had been too much shit kicking off then logically the doors would have been shut until the dust settled.

In general I think the forum is currently more welcoming to newbies than when I joined about 6-7 years ago, at that time there were quite a few high profile posters who seemed to goad quite a few new members resulting in them getting banned.
I'm not seeing out and out trolling of new members now but stupid posts will still rightly get picked up on 

I actually think the whole place is a bit friendlier nowadays and I put that largely down to the topic restrictions in OT

[Little Joe]

Good thread, worthwhile thread, and some good responses  .

My personal issue with some newbies, and it's nothing to do with being a punting site, it could be any forum, or infact any 'real' club in the real world, where you physically meet real people.

The issue is where the newbie says something a little naive, silly, possibly inflammatory, whatever (even unintentionally), and then if an established member politely points this out to them, there is instant confrontation/bad attitude in return.

That is guaranteed to piss off other members. If you're new, get a feel for the place. Get a feel for the etiquette. Get a feel for the community, because community is what it is.

That's bad enough, but I frequently see this attitude being used with Mods FFS  . Mods. They are the ones with Board Moderator clearly written above their avatar They give their time for free (as far as I know  ) to ensure relative harmony, fair play and adherence to the rules. Give the guys a break  .

You're in a new club, have some manners, don't upset the ambiance. Otherwise, bog off  .

Agree with all of that. Getting to know the culture i guess is sound advice.

[vindici]

Read my post.....I never and never would post a location. It was posted by the reviewer not moi, and was no more specific than any number of buildings that are referred to in many posts....in fact it would have been far less specific than a hotel name. Why the need to be arsy.....are you a trainee moderator.....I think the mod looking at this is capable of making his point without your sycophantic involvement.

Firstly, I assure you it's better for you that a mod doesn't get involved...

As to the specifics, no I haven't read the thread, but if Daviemac says it was out of line, I'll take his word for it any day of the week.

Why a hotel that can be booked for one day only is allowed, while a residential street name is not, should not need clarifying to any self respecting punter.

[winkywanky]

In addition to the above, I would say with some of these newbies it becomes clear very quickly whether they will last or not. Some are seemingly very quickly on the road to being banned (whether they realise that or not), and I will admit - especially in these troubled times - that it can be a source of some entertainment to see that process play out as they crash and burn. Sometimes I have the vague notion that even the Mods themselves can take a little pleasure from this (and why not, having been goaded), but of course I would never come right out and say that  .

Membership is a privilege, not a right.

[Little Joe]

Firstly, I assure you it's better for you that a mod doesn't get involved...

As to the specifics, no I haven't read the thread, but if Daviemac says it was out of line, I'll take his word for it any day of the week.

Why a hotel that can be booked for one day only is allowed, while a residential street name is not, should not need clarifying to any self respecting punter.

👍

[Little Joe]

In addition to the above, I would say with some of these newbies it becomes clear very quickly whether they will last or not. Some are seemingly very quickly on the road to being banned (whether they realise that or not), and I will admit - especially in these troubled times - that it can be a source of some entertainment to see that process play out as they crash and burn. Sometimes I have the vague notion that even the Mods themselves can take a little pleasure from this (and why not, having been goaded), but of course I would never come right out and say that  .

Membership is a privilege, not a right.

👍

[Little Joe]

I think this has been a useful exchange and may get me kicked off but some good stuff has come out that may well clarify things for other new guys. It is a culture thing.

[daviemac]

Not sure what topic is not allowed....I’ve noticed a couple of threads linked to the Covid issue, one of which was started in the last few days. Apologies in advance for any contravention, I really don’t know what you are alluding to.
Re the location issue.... I fully endorse locations should not be disclosed in a specific way, I didn’t disclose the location but I can see it is mentioned  on other threads if it’s the one I’m thinking about. The actual block is quite huge so no danger done I wouldn’t think.
Only reason I ‘reported’ was because I cannot send a pm.
Can we leave it at that .

That is your problem you do not think, describing exactly where the block is shows there are escorts working from that exact location, no matter how big it is.

A 'general description' means the area not the actual block of flats. On the COVID issue again you are talking about something you have no clue about. The thread that was deleted was posted on the main discussion board and that is for punting related topics not something that should be in 'off topic'.

You are a classic example of someone not reading or understanding the rules, nor do you understand the way the site works and has worked very successfully for a number of years.

[lamboman]

I think newbie trolls are pretty easy to identify to be honest but as a newbie I'd say this forum does have a lot of rules which is fair enough "thems the rules" but as a rule people are not going to look these up they are going to post according to how they normally do on fora which clearly winds some up.
There are also a small core of regulars that seem to atagonise some newbies into an arguement,I ignore them but it's clear some take the bait and get banned.
Just my view as a newbie.

[vindici]

...as a rule people are not going to look these up they are going to post according to how they normally do on fora which clearly winds some up....

People not reading the rules, then acting the fool, winds up the majority of the established membership that observe the rules?

[winkywanky]

I think newbie trolls are pretty easy to identify to be honest but as a newbie I'd say this forum does have a lot of rules which is fair enough "thems the rules" but as a rule people are not going to look these up they are going to post according to how they normally do on fora which clearly winds some up.
There are also a small core of regulars that seem to atagonise some newbies into an arguement,I ignore them but it's clear some take the bait and get banned.
Just my view as a newbie.

One page of rules, 27 of them in total. I wouldn't call that a lot?

By the way, I am far from perfect and my 'enthusiasm to post' sometimes mean I don't consider them properly before doing so, but I would hardly call that a lot.

Not that I've ever played, but compare that with a golf club  .

If I get called out for breaking the rules, I simply apologise without arguing, it's no big deal  If I can do that, so can a newbie (infact a newbie should be MORE keen to not upset the applecart).

[Blackpool Rock]

I think newbie trolls are pretty easy to identify to be honest but as a newbie I'd say this forum does have a lot of rules which is fair enough "thems the rules" but as a rule people are not going to look these up they are going to post according to how they normally do on fora which clearly winds some up.
There are also a small core of regulars that seem to atagonise some newbies into an arguement,I ignore them but it's clear some take the bait and get banned.
Just my view as a newbie.

I'd love to know what you would have made of James 999 

[winkywanky]

I'd love to know what you would have made of James 999 

James999 would have eaten him alive, and it would have been fun to watch 

[lamboman]

One page of rules, 27 of them in total. I wouldn't call that a lot?

By the way, I am far from perfect and my 'enthusiasm to post' sometimes mean I don't consider them properly before doing so, but I would hardly call that a lot.

Not that I've ever played, but compare that with a golf club  .

If I get called out for breaking the rules, I simply apologise without arguing, it's no big deal  If I can do that, so can a newbie (infact a newbie should be MORE keen to not upset the applecart).

27 rules is a lot but like I say thems the rules I've no problem with them.

[lamboman]

I'd love to know what you would have made of James 999 

I would have ignored him life is too short 

[lamboman]

 

People not reading the rules, then acting the fool, winds up the majority of the established membership that observe the rules?

I'm not arguing with that.

[LLPunting]

I think newbie trolls are pretty easy to identify to be honest but as a newbie I'd say this forum does have a lot of rules which is fair enough "thems the rules" but as a rule people are not going to look these up they are going to post according to how they normally do on fora which clearly winds some up.
There are also a small core of regulars that seem to atagonise some newbies into an arguement,I ignore them but it's clear some take the bait and get banned.
Just my view as a newbie.

Sadly the one rule, "Don't be an idiot" is too complex and nuanced for most idiots so it's spelled out in easy language specific to the objectives of this site.  27 is pretty concise and sufficient for an otherwise pretty liberal forum.

[lamboman]

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James999 would have eaten him alive, and it would have been fun to watch 

Nope non starter that 

[lillythesavage]

One page of rules, 27 of them in total. I wouldn't call that a lot?

By the way, I am far from perfect and my 'enthusiasm to post' sometimes mean I don't consider them properly before doing so, but I would hardly call that a lot.

Not that I've ever played, but compare that with a golf club  .

If I get called out for breaking the rules, I simply apologise without arguing, it's no big deal  If I can do that, so can a newbie (infact a newbie should be MORE keen to not upset the applecart).

Having read the rules, read 100,s of threads and having WW problem of too much time and a willingness to post, enjoying a fun thread that I actually had some recent experience to share, seeing it taken over with accusations and heated debate, I have only once seen a post admitting on the thread they were in the wrong.

Must be a man thing Or a forum thing. No one seems willing to admit they are wrong and the battle goes on. I have had to apologize to the mods once and honestly think if I posted incorrectly I would be big enough to put my hands up, no shame in it even to faceless people with strange names.

[tynetunnel]

The sensible thing to do, would be to create an account, read the forum regularly, observe and try to understand the culture, and how things are done here, only after that should one jump in.

Exactly what I did. My own history shows that I joined the site on 5 Feb 2018 but my first post was 26 Feb 2018. I lurked for 3 weeks, getting a feel for the site before I posted. I eventually felt I had something to add, and so I did. My thoughts on the lovely “Kirie” as it turns out! 

[scutty brown]

................... How many for instance start their first review with words such as ‘this is my first review so please go easy on me’ , for fear of being called out......................

With experience you'll realise that most threads starting like that are by returning banned members, or would-be trolls trying to avoid detection

[LLPunting]

With experience you'll realise that most threads starting like that are by returning banned members, or would-be trolls trying to avoid detection

It's a shame the UKP guidelines and culture orientation were removed as part of the sign-up process.  Another casualty in service to the ADD generations.

[daviemac]

27 rules is a lot but like I say thems the rules I've no problem with them.

To be honest most of the rules are common sense, numbers 5 to 10 are one line each and refer mainly to post deletion and name changes. A further 10 are also one line and are easy to understand.

The rest have to be a bit more specific simply because people do not use common sense and think they can post anything they like on here. We have had escort's real names, full addresses, links to private social media, pictures from private social media, sti accusations, details of their private and family lives, the list goes on.

What I have noticed since membership has reopened is the number of people who have the totally wrong idea about this site, they think anything goes and it's a place they can air their own private grievances.

What we want and need are honest appraisals of the services provided by those involved in the sex industry. This can only be achieved if new members accept the ethos and basic principles of the site.

[vindici]

Exactly what I did. My own history shows that I joined the site on 5 Feb 2018 but my first post was 26 Feb 2018. I lurked for 3 weeks, getting a feel for the site before I posted. I eventually felt I had something to add, and so I did...

Me too! I joined in August and first post was made that December, there is some value in lurking in the beginning.