What's Behind Pimping the Wife or Girlfriend?

[Torarica]

Gents,

Firstly, forgive the lack of a UKP review. Work has me posted internationally and these WGs don't do AW. When back in the UK I don't punt because I have free options...lucky me  and can get in trouble with my job if outed. So I play far far away. Anyway so much for preamble....

I am always puzzled by WGs and porn stars who are married and the husband/boyfriend seems to be the pimp. I can understand why many girls this side split the income with their partners because of poverty, but by nature, I have never understood why any man allows that. In the UK/USA/Europe where there's not so much poverty, I have also come across a few where the husband seems to be around but keeps quiet. A few examples:

Porn- Zara DuRose. She wear a ring and I presume married External Link/Members Only

Web Camming- Ashley Alban. Did it while married she says
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Service Provider - Monica Reviewed by a punter recently External Link/Members Only and the review https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=156976.0

So what's behind this? Is it a new trend and I'm getting old, or what really?

[daviemac]

Don't know why you're bothered about it, loads of prossies have partners and shock horror some even kids.   

Unless you think they should all be single and not have a life away from prossying.     

[Torarica]

Just like all of us mate but don't miss the question. Not all WGs have their guys as the pimps. That's the question.

[Torarica]

...and fwiw I've been approached by swinging married couples like mentioned here https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=154374.75 but I'm not asking about having a steady partner or swinging couples.

I'm asking about a well run established service where the wife is not independent but the husband is the 'agency' or the pimp.

[daviemac]

...and fwiw I've been approached by swinging married couples like mentioned here https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=154374.75 but I'm not asking about having a steady partner or swinging couples.

I'm asking about a well run established service where the wife is not independent but the husband is the 'agency' or the pimp.

Same answer, why are you bothered and what difference would it make, if a prossie works for an agency and has a husband she has a pimp, just not the person she's married to.

If she's married to her pimp it saves money.

[Bootleg]

I have seen some decent girls who are married and work with the approval of their husbands. Some are swingers so I guess having their wife get paid for fucking other guys is not that big a jump 

I guess that the income they can generate is often more than the guy can earn himself. It would not work for me but I am not going to judge those who have this type of arrangement if (and it is a big if) the woman does it entirely of her own free will.

[Torarica]

How does it save money more than the counterfactual Daviemac? Lost me there...

[Torarica]

Yeah that's what I'm saying as well. I can understand swinging and fetish, but a full on husband as pimp is a bit puzzling for me too.

I have seen some decent girls who are married and work with the approval of their husbands. Some are swingers so I guess having their wife get paid for fucking other guys is not that big a jump 

I guess that the income they can generate is often more than the guy can earn himself. It would not work for me but I am not going to judge those who have this type of arrangement if (and it is a big if) the woman does it entirely of her own free will.

[daviemac]

How does it save money more than the counterfactual Daviemac? Lost me there...

If she works for an agency she pays them at least 30% of all her earnings so that is money she earned but no longer has, if she's married to the pimp that 30% she earned stays in the family making them 30% better off. 

Or to put it another way it saves her paying the agency's commission.

[daviemac]

You still haven't explained what difference it would make for a husband to sit in the house knowing his wife's going out prossying and paying someone else to take bookings, to him taking the bookings and saving money.   

She's still a prossie and he's still her husband who knows she's a prossie.

[Torarica]

That's tautological and partly why I had to restate the question for you. Fwiw, if there is no difference as you imply, then why does it happen? I would imagine though that in these circumstances the wife/girlfriend would be indie and take home all, cutting out the middle man.

Again that's not the original question, but if I take your answer above, then I guess it's the money why the husband/boyfriend will be willing to pimp her out. So what happens when a WG says that she keeps all her money, but her husband is upstairs/downstairs and doesn't mind, as long as she gives him a cut of the stash? What's behind that...money, fetish, insecurity...? And for punters who risk a career, will the presence of a husband/boyfriend pose any risk like what happened to Dominique Strauss-Kahn years ago in New York where the 'hotel maid' was actually part of a set up?
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Let's just say in my circles this cuts close to home..

You still haven't explained what difference it would make for a husband to sit in the house knowing his wife's going out prossying and paying someone else to take bookings, to him taking the bookings and saving money.   

She's still a prossie and he's still her husband who knows she's a prossie.

[Roth]

That's tautological and partly why I had to restate the question for you. Fwiw, if there is no difference as you imply, then why does it happen? I would imagine though that in these circumstances the wife/girlfriend would be indie and take home all, cutting out the middle man.

Again that's not the original question, but if I take your answer above, then I guess it's the money why the husband/boyfriend will be willing to pimp her out. So what happens when a WG says that she keeps all her money, but her husband is upstairs/downstairs and doesn't mind, as long as she gives him a cut of the stash? What's behind that...money, fetish, insecurity...? And for punters who risk a career, will the presence of a husband/boyfriend pose any risk like what happened to Dominique Strauss-Kahn years ago in New York where the 'hotel maid' was actually part of a set up?
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Let's just say in my circles this cuts close to home..

What? People in your circles sexually assault maids?

[Sinz]

Researcher scavenging for possible reasons into pimping?

Sounds like a hypothesis to me ....

[daviemac]

That's tautological and partly why I had to restate the question for you. Fwiw, if there is no difference as you imply, then why does it happen? I would imagine though that in these circumstances the wife/girlfriend would be indie and take home all, cutting out the middle man.

Again that's not the original question, but if I take your answer above, then I guess it's the money why the husband/boyfriend will be willing to pimp her out. So what happens when a WG says that she keeps all her money, but her husband is upstairs/downstairs and doesn't mind, as long as she gives him a cut of the stash? What's behind that...money, fetish, insecurity...? And for punters who risk a career, will the presence of a husband/boyfriend pose any risk like what happened to Dominique Strauss-Kahn years ago in New York where the 'hotel maid' was actually part of a set up?
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Let's just say in my circles this cuts close to home..

Any answer other than that given above would be pure conjecture and therefore worthless. To complete your research you need to ask actual pimps, collate their answers and see if there's a common theme.

This is not the site to do that on. 

[Torarica]

Researcher scavenging for possible reasons into pimping?

Sounds like a hypothesis to me ....

Not exactly but I do take that as a big up compliment.

[Sinz]

Not exactly but I do take that as a big up compliment.

And something tells me your time in here is ticking 

[figleaf]

I've always quite liked the idea of my girlfriend fucking other blokes, so just like swinging, again it's a small mental leap to getting paid for it

That said, all of this is probably one of those things which is best kept as a fantasy !

[Sir Lance-a-lot]

Can't understand what the issue is, unless he's forcing her into prostitution, which seems unlikely.

The crime of "living off immoral earnings" was abolished years ago, replaced by "controlling prostitution for gain".  Anyone who makes money from "controlling" a WG is guilty of a crime, making it technically illegal to hire a secretary to take bookings.  Asking a partner to do it might make prosecution less likely.

[Torarica]

Guys I would love to continue this discussion and share my punting abroad experiences about this more. However it seems I'm not really welcome and it's a board open to a small group, or just persons who are not open to questions like these.

Whatever it is, I'll just take the hint and leave you guys be. Cheers again for the time and apologies.

[scutty brown]

The question in the original post is the wrong one.

In my experience, in most cases where a wife/girlfriend is a whore its because she is in an exploitative relationship. The marriage / relationship is just a way for the man to exert emotional control.
Its not true of all cases, but is in probably a large majority

You should be asking:
"Why are so many women too stupid to realise they are being exploited?"

[baby batter]

a pimp in the making  me thinks
go surf google

[puntingpumping1920]

In relationships we define what cheating is or what is unacceptable in a relationship.   
 
Some people are more liberal with their rules than others

[daviemac]

Guys I would love to continue this discussion and share my punting abroad experiences about this more. However it seems I'm not really welcome and it's a board open to a small group, or just persons who are not open to questions like these.

Whatever it is, I'll just take the hint and leave you guys be. Cheers again for the time and apologies.

The board is open to anyone, just the question you are asking is only answerable by the pimps who actually do it. No one can know what goes on in another's mind.

[BarryProudfoot]

The question in the original post is the wrong one.

In my experience, in most cases where a wife/girlfriend is a whore its because she is in an exploitative relationship. The marriage / relationship is just a way for the man to exert emotional control.
Its not true of all cases, but is in probably a large majority

You should be asking:
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Why are so many women too stupid to realise they are being exploited?"

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I know a girl who works in selfridges and she sees many a "pimp & whore" in store arguing over what to buy. And like she says, he is only spending the money she earned 'treating' her and himself to items like Giuseppe trainers, Louboutins, Moncler jackets etc. Spending money like it's going out of style      

[Steely Dan]

Guys I would love to continue this discussion and share my punting abroad experiences about this more. However it seems I'm not really welcome and it's a board open to a small group, or just persons who are not open to questions like these.

Whatever it is, I'll just take the hint and leave you guys be. Cheers again for the time and apologies.

10,856 reviews this year. Just saying this board has 1000s of guys.  And after 10 or 15 responses, you conclude you are not welcome?  Grow a pair FFS.

[Torarica]

10,856 reviews this year. Just saying this board has 1000s of guys.  And after 10 or 15 responses, you conclude you are not welcome?  Grow a pair FFS.

When a defensive punter tries to tank your thread because he isn't interested (or now thinks only pimps can answer), and when a mod threatens you with a  , you ask yourself, why are you sitting behind a screen trying to tease out feedback, when you can pop down to the beach or poolside and go pull 10/10 civvies or 'seeking arrangement' type women who are only happy to talk with you because you are tall, built like an athlete, smart like a college professor, have an intl career, and most importantly in good health?

So Steely Danni boy, I do have a fully grown pair that has many options hitting puss all at my beck and call instead of sitting on them behind a screen arguing with ppl who have vested interests in the thought process of UKP and who seem to resent newly minted contributors who, quite frankly, might have lots more experience to impart beyond the usual AW-UKE world that they know.

P.S. Latin America and the Caribbean are paradise for civvies, punting, and any 'seeking arrangement' you can think of. It also helps when you can dance salsa, reggae, soca, and have a fit body to jump in the carnival seasons across all countries. So, yes I do have a fully grown pair that hits tropical puss transcontinental and not defined by the UKP gatekeepers.

Have a great Bank Holiday!

[Roth]

When a defensive punter tries to tank your thread because he isn't interested (or now thinks only pimps can answer), and when a mod threatens you with a  , you ask yourself, why are you sitting behind a screen trying to tease out feedback, when you can pop down to the beach or poolside and go pull 10/10 civvies or 'seeking arrangement' type women who are only happy to talk with you because you are tall, built like an athlete, smart like a college professor, have an intl career, and most importantly in good health?

So Steely Danni boy, I do have a fully grown pair that has many options hitting puss all at my beck and call instead of sitting on them behind a screen arguing with ppl who have vested interests in the thought process of UKP and who seem to resent newly minted contributors who, quite frankly, might have lots more experience to impart beyond the usual AW-UKE world that they know.

P.S. Latin America and the Caribbean are paradise for civvies, punting, and any 'seeking arrangement' you can think of. It also helps when you can dance salsa, reggae, soca, and have a fit body to jump in the carnival seasons across all countries. So, yes I do have a fully grown pair that hits tropical puss transcontinental and not defined by the UKP gatekeepers.

Have a great Bank Holiday!

So fuck off and pull your 10/10 civvies Mr Adonis.

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[Sinz]

When a defensive punter tries to tank your thread because he isn't interested (or now thinks only pimps can answer), and when a mod threatens you with a  , you ask yourself, why are you sitting behind a screen trying to tease out feedback, when you can pop down to the beach or poolside and go pull 10/10 civvies or 'seeking arrangement' type women who are only happy to talk with you because you are tall, built like an athlete, smart like a college professor, have an intl career, and most importantly in good health?

So Steely Danni boy, I do have a fully grown pair that has many options hitting puss all at my beck and call instead of sitting on them behind a screen arguing with ppl who have vested interests in the thought process of UKP and who seem to resent newly minted contributors who, quite frankly, might have lots more experience to impart beyond the usual AW-UKE world that they know.

P.S. Latin America and the Caribbean are paradise for civvies, punting, and any 'seeking arrangement' you can think of. It also helps when you can dance salsa, reggae, soca, and have a fit body to jump in the carnival seasons across all countries. So, yes I do have a fully grown pair that hits tropical puss transcontinental and not defined by the UKP gatekeepers.

Have a great Bank Holiday!

Calm down mate,

Steely Dan was referring to grow a pair of balls... not tits !!  Now you have started whinging and whining like a girl going through breakup.

Oh and yes you can whizz off to your tropical paradise in your dreams and just to be clear no one gives a damn to someone with an attitude like yours.

[Randy Mcknob]

but by nature, I have never understood why any man allows that.

Ok taking you seriously. I've a hunch it would help if you could say more about what you don't understand, or what you think about the men that do "allow" their wives to do sex work? 

[Torarica]

but by nature, I have never understood why any man allows that.

Ok taking you seriously. I've a hunch it would help if you could say more about what you don't understand, or what you think about the men that do "allow" their wives to do sex work?

Precisely that...you get approached by the WG and she says her partner "allows" her or "is really cool" about what she does. You ask if it's a fetish they say no. You ask if it's a business they say they keep their own money. You probe to find out if it's a set up (bcs of your job) they say no, they just picked you out of nowhere because you are nicely dressed, professional blah blah blah.

So that was the mere intent of the question. Thought I would just clarify seeing you are prepared to take the question seriously. Otherwise, I am prepared to let this thread go. I'm not particularly amused by the abuse being thrown.

[vw]

Researcher scavenging for possible reasons into pimping?

Sounds like a hypothesis to me ....

Well shady IMO, one undesirable specimen if ever i have read one.

[daviemac]

Well shady IMO, one undesirable specimen if ever i have read one.

He gets worse VW, now saying he 'probes' into a prossie's private life after they 'approach' him.

Sounds like he's researching street prostitution to me.

All the escorts I've seen it's been me who instigates contact by phone, email or text and I have no interest in their private lives. If I felt they were being forced or coerced I would report it to the police.

[Torarica]

For the benefit of all, the question was borne out of personal experiences, observation and...well observation from pop culture as well (External Link/Members Only)

The man makes enough for both of them, yet he doesn't mind her WG job. Yes that song implies stripping but in my experience, the circumstances are the same.

I probably should remove the word "pimping" from the title as it seems to have thrown some off, but hey, that's the generic term used this side when you free ride off someone's work, whether or not it's sex work.

And apologies if I sound like a researcher or might be too articulate in how I write. I can blame education for that one...

[vw]

And apologies if I sound like a researcher or might be too articulate in how I write. I can blame education for that one...

Now you have gone, please stay gone weirdo.

[AlwaysLooking]

Porn- Zara DuRose. She wear a ring and I presume married External Link/Members Only

And you can even book her and hubby on AW External Link/Members Only orExternal Link/Members Only

[bigmanbigman]

Op grow up dont make punter here cry with all you could but are not giving here.

[Placebo88]

When a defensive punter tries to tank your thread because he isn't interested (or now thinks only pimps can answer), and when a mod threatens you with a  , you ask yourself, why are you sitting behind a screen trying to tease out feedback, when you can pop down to the beach or poolside and go pull 10/10 civvies or 'seeking arrangement' type women who are only happy to talk with you because you are tall, built like an athlete, smart like a college professor, have an intl career, and most importantly in good health?

So Steely Danni boy, I do have a fully grown pair that has many options hitting puss all at my beck and call instead of sitting on them behind a screen arguing with ppl who have vested interests in the thought process of UKP and who seem to resent newly minted contributors who, quite frankly, might have lots more experience to impart beyond the usual AW-UKE world that they know.

P.S. Latin America and the Caribbean are paradise for civvies, punting, and any 'seeking arrangement' you can think of. It also helps when you can dance salsa, reggae, soca, and have a fit body to jump in the carnival seasons across all countries. So, yes I do have a fully grown pair that hits tropical puss transcontinental and not defined by the UKP gatekeepers.

Have a great Bank Holiday!

Not convinced at all, this rambling fantasist sounds like a cross between a woman and a gay man. Carnival season, you go girlfriend.

Probing escorts for information is suspicious.

I got the idea he/she was talking about prostitution in America more than the UK.

The question of coercion is the important point. There are going to be parasite boyfriends too. Sometimes they can be legitimately helping with their partners chosen career.

[vw]

There are going to be parasite boyfriends too. Sometimes they can be legitimately helping with their partners chosen career.

WG's business, IE none of mine what their personal relationship or busines  relationships are.

If it bothers a punter maybe they should go a for a wank as they will never know the truth either way.

[Steely Dan]

When a defensive punter tries to tank your thread because he isn't interested (or now thinks only pimps can answer), and when a mod threatens you with a  , you ask yourself, why are you sitting behind a screen trying to tease out feedback, when you can pop down to the beach or poolside and go pull 10/10 civvies or 'seeking arrangement' type women who are only happy to talk with you because you are tall, built like an athlete, smart like a college professor, have an intl career, and most importantly in good health?

No mods here. (might be a few rockers)

If punting is only for short, non athletic, stupid, local twats in bad health, why do you even read the words of wisdom?

So Steely Danni boy,

Creepy words. I feel dirty.