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Your only post this year, other than this one and a post report, was https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=310037.msg3245351#msg3245351 and that was in July, the one before that was December 2020. So I don't know where you get the 'tried to post a review' from.   :unknown:

Your one and only review was in July 2019.

Perhaps he followed your advice and tried mumsnet.
They may not have appreciated the review and deleted it.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=279538.msg2980486#msg2980486

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Perhaps he followed your advice and tried mumsnet.
They may not have appreciated the review and deleted it.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=279538.msg2980486#msg2980486
It isn't in the deleted post log, which is where it would be if he had posted it and it was deleted.

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It would also be in his post log but with 'deleted' as the location, it isn't there either.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2021, 06:30:23 pm by daviemac »

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What a ridiculous comment. Of course they care !

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In general day-to-day life simply saying to a civvie girl “your fat” will start WW3. This is a whole different level/platform.
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Offline myothernameis

It isn't in the deleted post log, which is where it would be if he had posted it and it was deleted.

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It would also be in his post log but with 'deleted' as the location, it isn't there either.

If colston36 had tried to post a review, and it hasn't appeared, I think its more likely, there been an issue on his side.   Possibly a browser issue, or connection to the internet.

I have had similar issues, where I went to post in a thread, and the post never appeared.  Never put the issue down to UKP but rather a connection problem

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If colston36 had tried to post a review, and it hasn't appeared, I think its more likely, there been an issue on his side.   Possibly a browser issue, or connection to the internet.

I have had similar issues, where I went to post in a thread, and the post never appeared.  Never put the issue down to UKP but rather a connection problem

Davie is referring to County Militia.

Probably an unpopular opinion here but I think many people overestimate how much of an impact UKpunting actually has on the industry. Many escorts likely do read the site but I doubt they actually care about what had been said about them. It's a drop in the ocean and even when I tried posting a positive review earlier this year it got taken down and I hadn't bothered posting or logging on since so it shows that contributors aren't always appreciated for their efforts.

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If colston36 had tried to post a review, and it hasn't appeared, I think its more likely, there been an issue on his side.   Possibly a browser issue, or connection to the internet.

I have had similar issues, where I went to post in a thread, and the post never appeared.  Never put the issue down to UKP but rather a connection problem
I can understand if there's an issue with connections and a post not appearing but County Militia said he had posted a review and it got taken down, he hasn't, there is only one post of his in his history that has been deleted and that also shows in the deleted post log.

Only a mod or admim can delete posts but they are only removed from the open boards so they aren't seen by members, they aren't actually deleted. he has not had a review deleted.

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To clarify it further he has not had a review moved to general discussions either, his one and only post that resembled a review was in 2019 and that is in the review section.
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Offline tynetunnel

Perhaps he followed your advice and tried mumsnet.
They may not have appreciated the review and deleted it.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=279538.msg2980486#msg2980486

I got what you meant!  :hi:

Offline JamesKW

UKP likley has very little influence,when I have asked other punters at parties if anyone has heard of it,very few have,it is a small blip in the overall punting market.

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UKP likley has very little influence,when I have asked other punters at parties if anyone has heard of it,very few have,it is a small blip in the overall punting market.


Doh!

"Have you heard of UKP?" .... No ..... end of conversation.

"Have you heard of UKP?" .... Yes ... and your next question would have been?


Offline Herwayst

UKP is best when used for vetting SPs to make sure they're actually legit, the rest is just a night at the boozer
« Last Edit: November 22, 2021, 10:08:16 pm by Herwayst »

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UKP is best when used for vetting SPs to make sure they're actually legit, the rest is just a night at the boozer

You're a leech when you don't post reviews in return.

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UKP is best when used for vetting SPs to make sure they're actually legit, the rest is just a night at the boozer
UKP is best used as it's intended, sharing information by way of reviews and those who don't fall foul of the rules and are libel to be banned. We are not a public information service.

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Offline Gaffer58

It’s more of a curious one for me. Being a recent member this year I haven’t been privy to UKP when it first started.

I’ve always wondered a few things.

Do WG’s religiously read here?
Does our reviews have an impact on SP/WG pricing?

Is there a total membership number? Think 70,000 was batted around once. There’s some crazy view counts

How’d you first hear about ukp? / when was it first founded

Why do SP/WG have a general impression that we’re  the illuminati or something?  :D

Personally I think it’s a double edged sword ( in a good way) . First,  a review should be posted with honesty not caring if the WG reads it or not . That way , we as punters have a good clear understanding of what is on offer , from a non biased source , wether it’s vfm or not .

Secondly , however if the WGs are reading reviews on themselves or other WGs they know , this will have an effect of keeping their prices reasonable ( hopefully ) and help them review what they are doing , so improving their service , because if they have anything about them they will realise that it’s free advertising , and improving what they do is good for them with both new and repeat business .

So it’s a win , win .

As for where I heard of this forum , I think it was a random google search .

« Last Edit: November 23, 2021, 01:22:58 pm by Gaffer58 »

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Offline HarryZZ

Not a great deal is the correct answer, if every girl had every punt reviewed and every one was a bad review then it would have to be a resounding YES, the truth is, as we all should realise that there are girls who've been working for a year without a review on UKP, do we think they haven't had any customers? Do we think every punter has read every reviews? What percentage of any punts were with UKP users who've done their research?
There's a tourer in my area who registered on AW in 2017, she has two reviews and a couple of "any intel on..." Think about it, in four years with presumably 2 punts a day, 10 a week, that's 2000 punts, but only two reviews, I appreciate there will be some who use the site but don't contribute but realistically it must be something like 75-90% of those punts were not with people who'd checked on here. And there are some really badly reviewed WGs who are still making a good living.
None of us would be happy with a poor review, I'm sure many of us have been disappointed with some sort of appraisal by somebody at work, but we either shrug it off or convince ourselves that they were wrong, how many of us would turn up at work half an hour earlier to make a good impression for a dickhead boss?

Offline CrimsonD

I think it has some impact. I have occasionally TOFTT and so far I have not had a bad experience doing that. I have also punted abroad a lot and there are not many reviews on here of those SP's. But generally when punting in the UK I read the reviews on this forum first. I have not seen various SPs because of neg reviews on here. I have also sought out SP's because of good reviews on here. So even if some of the users/viewers on here are like me then its going to have some impact.

Offline Shagswell2001

I think it must have some kind of knock on effect somewhere. I visited a girl and left a positive review on here about her. That review got over 500 views and no replies.  The girl had planned only to stay a week and I had hoped to see her again that week but was unable to do so. I was surprised to see she was there a second week, so I arranged another visit. Obviously didn't review a second time as it would against the rule. When I asked her about her staying longer, she replied that a client had told her there was a review about her on the net, and after that review she had had a steady flow of punters prompting her to stay another week.
Funny that out of all those 500 odd views, there was not another review or comment about her despite her unexpected upturn in business obviously linked to her review on here.

Offline HailWood

I think it must have some kind of knock on effect somewhere. I visited a girl and left a positive review on here about her. That review got over 500 views and no replies.  The girl had planned only to stay a week and I had hoped to see her again that week but was unable to do so. I was surprised to see she was there a second week, so I arranged another visit. Obviously didn't review a second time as it would against the rule. When I asked her about her staying longer, she replied that a client had told her there was a review about her on the net, and after that review she had had a steady flow of punters prompting her to stay another week.
Funny that out of all those 500 odd views, there was not another review or comment about her despite her unexpected upturn in business obviously linked to her review on here.
Good point that.

I have often wondered how many members contribute reviews to those who don’t. Also interesting to see the stats against a review with say, 2000+ views to see how many visits were by non-contributors.
I believe it’s also possible to read a review by Googling the SPs name and see what was written without actually having to be a member.

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If UKP has no effect, why do so many kick off about or want reviews removed. (Rhetorical question BTW)

It must have some effect but how much is impossible to gauge. 

Offline Atrueyorkie

Good point that.

I have often wondered how many members contribute reviews to those who don’t. Also interesting to see the stats against a review with say, 2000+ views to see how many visits were by non-contributors.
I believe it’s also possible to read a review by Googling the SPs name and see what was written without actually having to be a member.

+1 to both points made

Goes to show how many leeches there are in addition to the outside viewing there is.

Offline Atrueyorkie

If UKP has no effect, why do so many kick off about or want reviews removed. (Rhetorical question BTW)

It must have some effect but how much is impossible to gauge.

Yeah without doing a UK census it would be hard to pinpoint but I generally feel although we aren’t the punting majority the reviews we make hold significant and considerable weight

Offline king tarzan

I never talk about UKP with a SP in a meet, however, if I review them positively and we have got on well they will let me know they had a surge in business as punters going in based on the review often mention it, so yes, UKP has an impact.

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Offline pantywetter

There are loads of white knights who tell girls when they’ve had a review.  I’ve left reviews and the girl knows 15 minutes later.

I have also seen girls with UKP on their phone.

I have also had girls turn me down on AW for being a reviewer or when I saw a TS!

In short, I think it has quite a big impact on the punting world.

Doesn’t seem to lead to massively improved service, sadly.

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I have also had girls turn me down on AW for being a reviewer or when I saw a TS!


You can change your nickname on AW, unless you had already done it.

Online shed

Have never understood why punters discuss UKP with escorts or massage providers. I never mention it and always act stupid, (yes it's easy) , by denying all knowledge of its existence. Simple and easy. But this site has been of massive benefit to me and it really pisses me off when members join but never contribute
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Offline pantywetter

You can change your nickname on AW, unless you had already done it.

Fuck it, their loss.  If they put the hard work in they would get a decent review.  Alas, easier to decline the booking.

Offline Thephoenix

Have never understood why punters discuss UKP with escorts or massage providers. I never mention it and always act stupid, (yes it's easy) , by denying all knowledge of its existence. Simple and easy. But this site has been of massive benefit to me and it really pisses me off when members join but never contribute
I agree.

I made a mistake years ago as a member of another forum, when phoning to arrange a well known fbsm provider, the lady asked where I'd heard about her.
As I'd read some good reviews I thought it would be good to tell her that.
She went berserk and said she wouldn't see me!!
I eventually persuaded her to change her mind, but got another ear bashing on arrival.
Some SPs hate review sites like this.

Offline VivianVixen94

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Why not hear it from the proverbial horses mouth. There are plenty of SP’s on here, perhaps they would care to make a comment?

SP here, can't sleep (it's 0430 in the US right now) so find myself on UKP again haha.

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Immediately after a review went up for me on here I suddenly got loads of last minute opportunist 'booking requests' like the attached - Almost all didn't turn into a meeting because I simply didn't have the time to accommodate in my already rammo schedule.

IMO UKP does impact SPs in good and bad ways...

I've had 2 friends allege to be fraudulently/maliciously reviewed and, whilst it doesn't seem to hurt their business at all, it totally impacted their feelings and mood when they were made aware of it.

Another friend who is very popular in a big city had a 'bad' day and I thought it may have been more than a coincidence that a scathing review had been posted that morning for her in the same city. Footnote - I'm not sure why she was complaining as she said she'd made approx 75% her usual take home and has so many regs in that town for it to seem to matter.

Finally, another EE friend of mine does brilliantly off the back of UKP and you guys love her! She's always busy and fully booked weeks ahead of her tours. She acknowledges that UKP has helper her loads to build her reputation however I know she has a really established base of regs so not sure how much impact it is having now.

For me personally I've not really seen a recognisable correlation of increase in bookings to mirror my slowly increasing but small number of UKP reviews. From what I gather reading here I am above many punter's price ceilings and don't offer CIM so I'm not on their radar anyway. I would put money on a tiny proportion of my client base being members/guests yet I enjoy being a member myself to try and understand/empathise with the experiences from a clients perspective.

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SP here, can't sleep (it's 0430 5am :scare: in the US right now) so find myself on UKP again haha.

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Just before anyone gives me another bashing about my screening methods. Yes yes I've already been criticised for asking for occupation and covid vaccination status. I get it you guys don't like that :thumbsdown:

Not going to defend/justify myself again on this forum but, in case anyone reading this is considering booking me, then please know that refusing to send this simple info will usually result in losing my attention/interest and messages end up being inadvertently ignored  :(

Offline VivianVixen94

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UKP membership may only be a fraction of the total of men that use prostitutes, but for each contributing member posting reviews there must be hundreds maybe thousands of leeches and “guests” that then try and book or not book the recently reviewed SP.
In some cases they could get a months worth of enquires and timewasters in a day!

Oh yeah totally this all over, see above..

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IMO UKP does impact SPs in good and bad ways...

I've had 2 friends allege to be fraudulently/maliciously reviewed and, whilst it doesn't seem to hurt their business at all, it totally impacted their feelings and mood when they were made aware of it.


Final point (I'm totally going to sleep after this) please just remember we are human, we have feelings.

I've only had positive reviews so far but one time I got so fixated on a tiny comment in a review about me being "not that slim" as my most recent photoshoot at the time (which was only 4 months old but speculated to be 2-3 years old)..

That one comment massively knocked my confidence - I ended up going on a massive calorie restriction for the rest of my tour and obsessively exercised in my downtime. It was stupid but it upset me.

Almost all SPs would never post on here so please don't bash me for participating. Hope my comments gave a little insight for this thread.

Offline Nickfr

You can change your nickname on AW, unless you had already done it.

For those that may not be aware.
The ALIAS function in AW allows SPs to see your current and all previous usernames that have accessed AW from your device in the previous 6 months or so.
AW uses cookies on your device to make this link.
The SPs have better Intel on you than many realise.

Offline Atrueyorkie

For those that may not be aware.
The ALIAS function in AW allows SPs to see your current and all previous usernames that have accessed AW from your device in the previous 6 months or so.
AW uses cookies on your device to make this link.
The SPs have better Intel on you than many realise.

So clearing your cookies renders that useless?

Didn’t know about this alias function either

Offline LLPunting

For those that may not be aware.
The ALIAS function in AW allows SPs to see your current and all previous usernames that have accessed AW from your device in the previous 6 months or so.
AW uses cookies on your device to make this link.
The SPs have better Intel on you than many realise.

Is this openly declared by AW to all users?  Strikes me as being an invasion of privacy. 

Offline VivianVixen94

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Is this openly declared by AW to all users?  Strikes me as being an invasion of privacy.

Yeah it's openly declared to everyone. As an SP I was even shown to have an 'alias' because my IP is also linked to a duo account. Had to email the helpdesk to amend it.

Offline Moby Dick

Going off topic, alias AW accounts have been discussed before.
One of the more recent threads:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=308206.msg3227810#msg3227810

Offline Payyourwaymate

Just before anyone gives me another bashing about my screening methods. Yes yes I've already been criticised for asking for occupation and covid vaccination status. I get it you guys don't like that :thumbsdown:

Not going to defend/justify myself again on this forum but, in case anyone reading this is considering booking me, then please know that refusing to send this simple info will usually result in losing my attention/interest and messages end up being inadvertently ignored  :(

Cool story bro.


Offline lamboman

Just before anyone gives me another bashing about my screening methods. Yes yes I've already been criticised for asking for occupation and covid vaccination status. I get it you guys don't like that :thumbsdown:

Not going to defend/justify myself again on this forum but, in case anyone reading this is considering booking me, then please know that refusing to send this simple info will usually result in losing my attention/interest and messages end up being inadvertently ignored  :(

I think the point is only a fool is going to verify the first 4 with you and you're highly likely to alienate potential customers me included if I was one.
I've no idea who you are though,if you could provide your real name,age and AW "handle" here I might look at your profile.
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Offline Moby Dick

I think the point is only a fool is going to verify the first 4 with you and you're highly likely to alienate potential customers me included if I was one.
I've no idea who you are though,if you could provide your real name,age and AW "handle" here I might look at your profile.

She touted her Aw profile on the screenshots above.

Offline tynetunnel

I think the point is only a fool is going to verify the first 4 with you and you're highly likely to alienate potential customers me included if I was one.
I've no idea who you are though,if you could provide your real name,age and AW "handle" here I might look at your profile.

I certainly wouldn’t give my real name or occupation  :hi:

Offline lamboman

She touted her Aw profile on the screenshots above.

Yes I noticed the not so subtle tout but AWs search feature is useless at names.
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Offline Moby Dick

Yes I noticed the not so subtle tout but AWs search feature is useless at names.
Just look at her post history, esp her first one, more often than not a WG can’t resist posting on a review about themselves.
I don’t use AW search function.
I use UKP search function, much better.
The power of UKP

Offline lamboman

Just look at her post history, esp her first one, more often than not a WG can’t resist posting on a review about themselves.
I don’t use AW search function.
I use UKP search function, much better.
The power of UKP

 :thumbsup: too rich and needy for me,I couldn't find her in the search box here either perhaps because of multiple aliases.
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Offline VivianVixen94

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She touted her Aw profile on the screenshots above.

Honestly wasn't intentional with the screenshot but feel please to redact that if necessary as well as the  mention of my screening procedures. Not looking to tout I just want to contribute to the forum ..

I certainly wouldn’t give my real name or occupation  :hi:

Barely anyone gives their real name and that's totally fine. But being able to differentiate X 'Sam's from each other in the same city is made easier when you have some other metadata to help.

Offline king tarzan

Honestly wasn't intentional with the screenshot but feel please to redact that if necessary as well as the  mention of my screening procedures. Not looking to tout I just want to contribute to the forum ..

Barely anyone gives their real name and that's totally fine. But being able to differentiate X 'Sam's from each other in the same city is made easier when you have some other metadata to help.

Don't take it to heart.. some members get chillies in there pants for nothing.. nick pick everything like old bored village grannies
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Offline scutty brown

Just before anyone gives me another bashing about my screening methods. Yes yes I've already been criticised for asking for occupation and covid vaccination status. I get it you guys don't like that :thumbsdown:

Not going to defend/justify myself again on this forum but, in case anyone reading this is considering booking me, then please know that refusing to send this simple info will usually result in losing my attention/interest and messages end up being inadvertently ignored  :(

You need to understand that asking screening questions like that won't give you accurate answers.
Do you really think you're going to be told real names and occupations? In many cases personal safety dictates otherwise.

Offline Moby Dick



Barely anyone gives their real name and that's totally fine. But being able to differentiate X 'Sam's from each other in the same city is made easier when you have some other metadata to help.

Ahhh so it’s just a bit of role play.

Hello my name is Mr Ben, and today I am a Lumberjack.  :hi:

I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK
I sleep all night and I work all day
I cut down trees, I wear high heels
Suspendies and a bra
I wish I'd been a girlie, just like my dear Papa
He cuts down trees, he wears high heels?
Suspendies and a bra?

 :sarcastic:
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Offline magnetico

I've already been criticised for asking for occupation and covid vaccination status.
Kind of dumb to ask for vaccination status, maybe in a prossie's logic : vaccinated = cannot transfer the virus?

Offline LLPunting

Kind of dumb to ask for vaccination status, maybe in a prossie's logic : vaccinated = cannot transfer the virus?

It's a risk mitigation External Link/Members Only  Not that many SPs are likely reading The Lancet.
Perhaps if their client base is predominantly over 50 then some might actually be trying to minimise the risk to their clients (yeah, perhaps unlikely but their probably no less of a cunt than the punter who punts while infected with anything, including STIs).
In that respect a punter's disdain for vaccination way well be indicative of their overall approach to health and transmission and concerned SPs may well prefer to avoid those risks.