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Offline yoyoyogi

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Imo it boils down to money, Its unheard of WG offering free extras because she likes the guy.

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Offline Lou2019

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Obviously it’s down to money  :unknown: it’s our job!

Offline Billy no mates

Obviously it’s down to money  :unknown: it’s our job!

I agree generally.

I have, in the past few days, been offered (with my wife also participating) a completely free overnight, I think this is based on being a nice guy/couple, but also a shared kink.

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I agree generally.

I have, in the past few days, been offered (with my wife also participating) a completely free overnight, I think this is based on being a nice guy/couple, but also a shared kink.

No one likes a bragger

Offline Billy no mates

No one likes a bragger

Well, you won’t like hearing I’m tall, handsome, rich and have a big cock

Oh yeah, shit, that’s all rubbish  :lol:

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Well, you won’t like hearing I’m tall, handsome, rich and have a big cock

Oh yeah, shit, that’s all rubbish  :lol:

That wouldn’t have impressed me anyway lol

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I wouldn't say your face is really a factor.

Then a lot of the old punters wouldn't be getting a top service/passionate/intimate sessions with WGs which isn't the case.

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Sure this has been discussed before, anyway in addition to my previous comment to any professional service provider looks and physique shouldn’t play a part in the service you provide.
The only thing that may impact on the service provided would be your personality. Obviously if you were of an unpleasant personality, chances are you will be likely asked to leave.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2023, 03:08:33 pm by Lou2019 »

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What is a "genuine intimate time"?

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1. Your Face
2. Your Physique
3. Your personality
4. Your wallet

Imo it boils down to money, Its unheard of WG offering free extras because she likes the guy.

On the other hand, unconscious bias may play a part in not offering something  :unknown:

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I’ve had anal and filming with a regular she offered it a few times no extra charge

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On the other hand, unconscious bias may play a part in not offering something  :unknown:

I have explored BDSM activities before I offered them with punters/clients with whom I felt comfortable and felt they knew what they were doing, fully informed, good attitude.  They approached me in what I would call 'the right way', discussed mostly within bookings, worked towards putting into action. Regulars (and i mean regular regulars) are usually exempt from the 'extra' charge for latex.

Is that unconscious bias?

If I'm not offering something it either has not been discussed, I do not offer it, or the person has incredibly bad heavy smoker breath (happened once in 15 years) or a combination of heavy smoker plus stale/drunk alcohol breathe and I will tell them exactly why I  cannot kiss.

Offline unclepokey

1. Your Face
2. Your Physique
3. Your personality
4. Your wallet

Imo it boils down to money, Its unheard of WG offering free extras because she likes the guy.
Yep money is the cardinal issue
But if she offers a delicious curry and some relaxing conversation as well who on earth would  want to not have that offering.

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Imo it boils down to money, Its unheard of WG offering free extras because she likes the guy.

I don't give discounts, freebies or extra time because I am paid to provide a service.  My prices are also inclusive, so there are no extras anyway.  Expecting extra services that simple aren't on offer or even available, is entitlement and also boundary pushing.

I find all these things, especially money, are essential to keep boundaries in place, so even if I like my clients and are incredibly fond of them, which I am, then no lines are blurred and everyone knows where they are

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What makes WG give you genuine intimate time?

I must admit your OP is as clear as mud

How are you defining genuine intimate time?  For many on here, intimacy equates purely the physical and sexual (see KT's reviews as evidence as he scores for physical intimacy).  For some, it is about the emotional and mental connection. And for others, it's a combination of all these things as well as an experience/service that is unique to them rather than a feeling that the SP is performing on autopilot - I believe some on here refer to this as mechanical.

 

« Last Edit: January 08, 2023, 03:48:24 pm by dunhill »

Offline Thephoenix

1. Your Face
2. Your Physique
3. Your personality
4. Y O U R   W A L L E T



I believe I tick all those boxes.
Plus a bit of modesty helps.



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Its unheard of WG offering free extras because she likes the guy.
Whether or not it was because she liked me I don't know but I had a reg who didn't charge me the extra £20 for a Nuru massage and she would go out of her way to introduce different experiences during the bookings. Nothing unsafe, I just made an appointment but never knew what to expect, hot candle wax massage one time at no extra cost.   :unknown:

Offline MissWolf

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The 'GIT' experience  :D

As I'm 56 would that be classed as The old GIT experience  :lol:

Nothing Makes an SP give you a genuine intimate experience, make implies force, she does so because you are paying her and she is conscientious and wants to do a good job.

We read dozens of 'she couldn't be arsed' type reviews on here but we also read many many more positive ones, most of those are not positive just because she was pretty with a 'banging body' or because she called you handsome, the are positive because she had a great attitude, she may not have been a 'stunner' in everyone's eyes but she was willing to put the effort in, made you feel amazing, went the extra mile, sucked like a Dyson etc etc


« Last Edit: January 08, 2023, 03:54:51 pm by MissWolf »

Offline yoyoyogi

Well, you won’t like hearing I’m tall, handsome, rich and have a big cock

Oh yeah, shit, that’s all rubbish  :lol:
And still you pay for sex  :lol:
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Offline RandomGuy99

We read dozens of 'she couldn't be arsed' type reviews on here but we also read many many more positive ones, most of those are not positive just because she was pretty with a 'banging body' or because she called you handsome, the are positive because she had a great attitude, she may not have been a 'stunner' in everyone's eyes but she was willing to put the effort in, made you feel amazing, went the extra mile, sucked like a Dyson etc etc
This is what makes a booking good. She doesn't have to be a stunner. She doesn't have to a gym bunny with toned abs. It's mostly about attitude and just showing an interest in you having a good time. That's what makes you go back.

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As I'm 56 would that be classed as The old GIT experience  :lol:

Nothing Makes an SP give you a genuine intimate experience, make implies force, she does so because you are paying her and she is conscientious and wants to do a good job.

We read dozens of 'she couldn't be arsed' type reviews on here but we also read many many more positive ones, most of those are not positive just because she was pretty with a 'banging body' or because she called you handsome, the are positive because she had a great attitude, she may not have been a 'stunner' in everyone's eyes but she was willing to put the effort in, made you feel amazing, went the extra mile, sucked like a Dyson etc etc


I agree if it's a service focussed then I am going to come out happy and think well yes that gave me  pleasure I was longing for and worth it.

Better than going to see super hot model who is just expecting money because she lets you suck her perfect tits.

I have found some bond with a WG after I had one of the greatest sex encounters I ever had with any women- much better than I had with my girlfriends but then other punter might be thinking the same  :lol:

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Offline yoyoyogi

I agree generally.

I have, in the past few days, been offered (with my wife also participating) a completely free overnight, I think this is based on being a nice guy/couple, but also a shared kink.

this doesn't sound free, its more like barter. :)
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Offline Blackpool Rock

I agree generally.

I have, in the past few days, been offered (with my wife also participating) a completely free overnight, I think this is based on being a nice guy/couple, but also a shared kink.
Got a link for your wife mate, asking for a friend  :rolleyes:  :D

OK so having a girl do any sex act is intimate in itself but some things are perhaps more intimate than other things certainly for some WG's  :unknown:
From previous threads where guys were describing punting in the 70's and 80's the GFE including kissing didn't really seem to be a thing, a girl may suck your cock and then fuck bare in the days before HIV / Aids but wouldn't kiss a punter as it was too personal

I turn up on time; clean and presentable then conduct myself in a decent manner being polite and approachable so the girl hopefully see's i'm not a threat to her, i'd like to think that in some instances this has ensured that i perhaps get OWO and kissing etc rather than the girl turning me down "At discretion"

While this game is about money and sex it's not all about money and sex, I can stay home and have a wank for free while watching the hottest girl in the world doing porn but sometimes you just need that human touch / connection to make it real so that you feel alive again  :thumbsup:

Offline LLPunting

:lol: I could easily do that for money!

I do it most every day for free, just look at my posts.  Fuck! I could've been rich!
« Last Edit: January 08, 2023, 05:00:07 pm by LLPunting »

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Sure this has been discussed before, anyway in addition to my previous comment to any professional service provider looks and physique shouldn’t play a part in the service you provide.
The only thing that may impact on the service provided would be your personality. Obviously if you were of an unpleasant personality, chances are you will be likely asked to leave.

And hygiene right?
« Last Edit: January 08, 2023, 05:01:35 pm by LLPunting »

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1. Your Face
2. Your Physique
3. Your personality
4. Your wallet

Imo it boils down to money, Its unheard of WG offering free extras because she likes the guy.

Her personality in response to how much she values what you pay.  You can sometimes receive a great intimate time from a "cheap" SP, you would expect a great time from an expensive SP who knows her business.
You cannot "make" a good experience happen, you can increase the odds by being well mannered, clean, attentive to her pleasure and respectful of her boundaries, which may shift as she warms to you.
You can make a shit experience with a bad attitude to your behaviour, presentation, hygiene and use of money to demand services.

Offline Doc Holliday

As I'm 56 would that be classed as The old GIT experience  :lol:

Nothing Makes an SP give you a genuine intimate experience, make implies force, she does so because you are paying her and she is conscientious and wants to do a good job.

We read dozens of 'she couldn't be arsed' type reviews on here but we also read many many more positive ones, most of those are not positive just because she was pretty with a 'banging body' or because she called you handsome, the are positive because she had a great attitude, she may not have been a 'stunner' in everyone's eyes but she was willing to put the effort in, made you feel amazing, went the extra mile, sucked like a Dyson etc etc

I pretty much agree, you old git, but I have highlighted the last bit because I would add 'ability' as well as attitude as being important. Some SP's can be very willing and conscientious but may not possess ability, although the latter can be subjective.

Like others I don't really fully understand the question, but if you are looking for male attributes that may influence the service you receive, I would also add ability to the list as IMO this is far more likely to be relevant than any of the others. I don't know how money is in the list as it is not an attribute?

Of course if this question is aimed at SP's, then even if they are greatly influenced by anything on the list they are hardly going to say so here.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2023, 05:15:01 pm by Doc Holliday »

Offline Itsnotshy

More chance of repeat business if they put a little extra effort into the service.
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Offline Punterperson1971

More chance of repeat business if they put a little extra effort into the service.
That’s why some have very good regulars

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I don't give discounts, freebies or extra time because I am paid to provide a service.  My prices are also inclusive, so there are no extras anyway.  Expecting extra services that simple aren't on offer or even available, is entitlement and also boundary pushing.

I find all these things, especially money, are essential to keep boundaries in place, so even if I like my clients and are incredibly fond of them, which I am, then no lines are blurred and everyone knows where they are

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I must admit your OP is as clear as mud

How are you defining genuine intimate time?  For many on here, intimacy equates purely the physical and sexual (see KT's reviews as evidence as he scores for physical intimacy).  For some, it is about the emotional and mental connection. And for others, it's a combination of all these things as well as an experience/service that is unique to them rather than a feeling that the SP is performing on autopilot - I believe some on here refer to this as mechanical.
Who mentioned 'expecting' the post you quoted said 'offering', there's a world of difference and being offered something by an escort is by no means boundary pushing and I object to the insinuation that it is.

The first time the reg I mentioned gave me a Nuru massage it had been arranged at the last booking that the next would be a Nuru at no extra charge, however I left the full amount, including the charge for the gel, anyway only to find a message when I got home to say I had overpaid and to keep £20 back at the next booking. The next time I saw her I put the money on the unit as normal and she asked if I had kept the £20 back, I hadn't so she made sure she gave it to me to put back in my pocket.

If me paying the normal amount (twice) after being given a discount makes me a boundary pusher I don't think you know what one is.

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I pretty much agree, you old git, but I have highlighted the last bit because I would add 'ability' as well as attitude as being important. Some SP's can be very willing and conscientious but may not possess ability, although the latter can be subjective.

Like others I don't really fully understand the question, but if you are looking for male attributes that may influence the service you receive, I would also add ability to the list as IMO this is far more likely to be relevant than any of the others. I don't know how money is in the list as it is not an attribute?

Of course if this question is aimed at SP's, then even if they are greatly influenced by anything on the list they are hardly going to say so here.

I knew I'd miss something Doc (it's an age thing  :lol:)

Absolutely agree with you, ability is important and that can be natural or learned, if we look at oral skills I can honestly say I've always loved giving but doing this job I have definitely developed my ability in that area from reading the signals, sounds and reactions of the clients.

I agree with this too as it's shooting oneself in the foot, the only thing that really influences my bookings is hygiene and if they refuse to fix that by showering then they don't get to find out how much of a danm delight I am as they are heading out the door, wallet intact.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2023, 05:47:18 pm by MissWolf »

Offline Colston36

1. Your Face
2. Your Physique
3. Your personality
4. Your wallet

Imo it boils down to money, Its unheard of WG offering free extras because she likes the guy.

Unheard of by whom?

Most escorts charge by the hour. I see one person about once every two months - in fact I shall see her tomorrow. Like everyone her rates are by the hour. I always pay her (very reasonable) £120.

I cannot recall the last time we only spent just an hour together; it's usually about 90 minutes. She is not to everyone's taste - very kinky and extreme - but I know she does very well indeed.

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Who mentioned 'expecting' the post you quoted said 'offering', there's a world of difference and being offered something by an escort is by no means boundary pushing and I object to the insinuation that it is.


Point taken, and I most certainly was not insinuating anything. I should have been more precise in my choice of words.

Any extras, discounts etc are entirely up to the individual escort anyway, and it is entirely their choice to whom they offer these things, as well you know.  However, and what I was trying to say is that for some, there is an expectation of these things.

So, and to correct myself, I should have stated that there's an expectation(by some) to offer extra services even though they aren't on offer or even available. To me this is entitlement and also boundary pushing.

I hope this clarifies things.





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1. Your Face
2. Your Physique
3. Your personality
4. Your wallet

Imo it boils down to money, Its unheard of WG offering free extras because she likes the guy.

Having now read you paid one lady £300 plus champagne I can't understand why don't like you.

Offline hendrix

I still don't understand the question! Are we talking about what would help you get a good time? Manners, hygiene, respectful comms etc

Or, are we talking about how you should behave in order to get services not generally available? Which seems implied by the "free extras" OP made?

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Point taken, and I most certainly was not insinuating anything. I should have been more precise in my choice of words.

Any extras, discounts etc are entirely up to the individual escort anyway, and it is entirely their choice to whom they offer these things, as well you know.  However, and what I was trying to say is that for some, there is an expectation of these things.

So, and to correct myself, I should have stated that there's an expectation(by some) to offer extra services even though they aren't on offer or even available. To me this is entitlement and also boundary pushing.

I hope this clarifies things.
Once you've been here a while you will see that boundary pushers get short shrift on here, most get banned.

Offline limarasa9

I have explored BDSM activities before I offered them with punters/clients with whom I felt comfortable and felt they knew what they were doing, fully informed, good attitude.  They approached me in what I would call 'the right way', discussed mostly within bookings, worked towards putting into action. Regulars (and i mean regular regulars) are usually exempt from the 'extra' charge for latex.

Is that unconscious bias?

If I'm not offering something it either has not been discussed, I do not offer it, or the person has incredibly bad heavy smoker breath (happened once in 15 years) or a combination of heavy smoker plus stale/drunk alcohol breathe and I will tell them exactly why I  cannot kiss.

I would describe it as something that has built up in your mind subconsciously which you only realise when you are confronted with it. A friend of mine (not an SP by the way) usually helps people without giving a second thought. Once he was asked for help by a guy who had a Mohican haircut, wearing bling and full of tattoos but my friend backtracked and made his excuses and left. The next day he discussed this with me and was very remorseful of what he did. He mentioned he never thought he had this bias (the guys specific appearance) which he only realised when he came face to face with it.

I guess majority of us human beings have some kind of subconscious bias that gets built in our mind through what we see around us and/or what is being relayed to us by family, friends, media etc… So, from my comment what I was trying to convey was, when an SP is faced with such a situation where she has an unconscious bias of a particular type of person and when that type of person then actually appears for a booking she might not offer everything that she usually offers normally. Just my guess and I might be completely wrong  :unknown:

Offline jimbobted

I always view as the cash is what gets me in the room with a sexy lady who knows exactly why we are both there. Being pleasant, friendly and approachable usually elicits service with a smile and good effort put into making sure I have a good time. Same as any other business Interaction really, if I chat with the barber we can enjoy a conversation as she cuts my hair. Or I can sit there in silence bored. I still walk out with the same haircut for the same price, but one option is much more pleasant!

Offline Clarence Boddicker

Obviously it’s down to money  :unknown: it’s our job!

Hi Lou, I know you say it’s your job, but would you agree that having a good time is a mutual exercise regardless of money? Just because I’d be paying you, wouldn’t absolve me of all responsibility, only I’ve found that simply making an effort to be affable, normally coaxes a better time for all.

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Personally i think that the title of the post would be more accurate if the OP hadn't of used the word 'genuine.' I think by the very nature of the act, WG's can't help but give an intimate experience, but it's a million miles away from expecting it to be genuine. How can it be genuine when the only reason they are seeing us is because we are paying them money.  :unknown:

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Personally i think that the title of the post would be more accurate if the OP hadn't of used the word 'genuine.' I think by the very nature of the act, WG's can't help but give an intimate experience, but it's a million miles away from expecting it to be genuine. How can it be genuine when the only reason they are seeing us is because we are paying them money.  :unknown:
There are some (probably relatively few) who do it because they genuinely want to have lots of sex with lots of different men. For some it's a way to satisfy their kinks. Making money from it is the icing on the cake.
These girls I find do usually provide a more spontyand genuine experience. I've had lots of really good experiences, returned and found the same routine. Those girls are pros offering a good service for the money. When you return and it's not the same routine as last time, that's generally when the girl is in it for sex first, money second IME. Doesn't mean they charge any less mind!  :lol:

Offline jesse4585

If 'genuine intimate time' just means full physical intimacy, then yes it's almost entirely money, though as others have said there are exceptions.

It's a more interesting  question if 'genuine intimate time' means sex that's deeply intimate in most of the ways the best unpaid civvy sex is. I.e. the lass acts like she genuinely desires you,  is really keen for sex, responding like it's the best thing in the world, surrendering to you totally if she's the passive type, or if she's the active type, fucking you like she's desperate for the deepest possible connection.

This is normally the sort of experience money can't buy.  (Except maybe in rare cases with a really good actress).  But while looking after yourself is going to help, I'd agree looks & physique aren't that important either. Cos if they were myself & many other middle aged punters who are no oil painting wouldnt have had such experiences several times.  These are the main reasons IMO:

1) Nature of the WG. As jimbobted said, it helps if the lass is that rare sort who seems to genuinely like sex for its own sake with lots of different random men.  I think JonasG & myself both experienced this with Rose Thai - she was unbelievable keen   as per our reviews. 

2) 'Click' - if the punter doesnt has some chemistry with the WG, really keen sex is unlikely to happen.

3) Luck, timing & hormones. 

I'd say no 3 is the most important. Women will sometimes be far keener for sex depending on where they are with their hormone cycle.  I've seen this with civvy lasses,  and with WGs, as I'm mostly a 'regular' GFE sort of punter who visits their fave many times. On most punts the sex I get from them is merely good, but every once in a while they are noticeably keener than normal both in how they act and physical signs like level of wetness and swelling of body parts.  Almost certain it's not me acting different on those special times - more likely I've just been lucky with my timing.

     

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Forgot about that punt Jesse! Yeah, she was great. Shame she basically disappeared pretty quick.

One of the best blind/no research punts I had.

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Forgot about that punt Jesse! Yeah, she was great. Shame she basically disappeared pretty quick.

One of the best blind/no research punts I had.
I'll never forget. First top quality punt I had thanks to reading a review on this fab site. Still grateful for your ToFTT review!

Offline Festa

As I'm 56 would that be classed as The old GIT experience  :lol:

Nothing Makes an SP give you a genuine intimate experience, make implies force, she does so because you are paying her and she is conscientious and wants to do a good job.

We read dozens of 'she couldn't be arsed' type reviews on here but we also read many many more positive ones, most of those are not positive just because she was pretty with a 'banging body' or because she called you handsome, the are positive because she had a great attitude, she may not have been a 'stunner' in everyone's eyes but she was willing to put the effort in, made you feel amazing, went the extra mile, sucked like a Dyson etc etc


Gosh.. The extra mile for this old GIT (70) is to have a half time cup of tea as well on longer meets.


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Imo it boils down to money, Its unheard of WG offering free extras because she likes the guy.

Not necessarily-  there is at least one girl who I saw a few times who, after a couple of meetings, was happy to do stuff not on her likes list, for on extra charge.  Of course, it may not be a question of "liking"- it may just be a question of being more comfortable with someone, and going a little further, or indeed, going further to keep a juicy fish coming back.