Alice of Lush Escort Birmingham

[consam2611]

NOT ALL THAT GLITTERS IS GOLD! Avoid if possible.

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This is my very first review so please be gentle if I do not really come across as an expert in writing this.

I had the worst experience of any escort with this girl yesterday 04/02/2021

Rang the office as usual and was asked to call again at about 7:30pm. Did rang again and was booked a 30 minutes appointment for 9:30pm for a location in Edgbaston B16. Communication with the office was great and spot on.

Rang the apartment and user in at about 9:25pm and that was when the appointment began to go downhill.

Firstly, Alice accused me of being late, that my appointment was for 9;15pm and not 9;30pm.

Secondly, that the light in the room has to be off because the neighbours are complaining of too many people coming into the building, and that what we were doing is illegal and that the police might be called.

Thirdly, she started OWO on me with the long black dress I met her with and her bra still on (I have never had this kind of experience with any girl before). And the excuse she gave was that, she doesn't want semen touching on her body while she is still getting ready for the act! Really!

Fourthly, 5 minutes into the meeting, she looked at the watch and told me I have 15 minutes left, at this point I lost every desire for the meeting and was very disappointed.

Fifthly, kissing was also restricted to just a peck. I could also not touch her boobs as she claimed they were too sensitive.

At this point I have to end the meeting. She told me I have 8 minutes left but when I checked the time I had 12 minutes left of my time.

Overall, it was a very disappointing meeting for me, the worst I have seen with lush and the worst of any encounter I have ever had.

[daviemac]

How much did you pay?

[Tender.french.kiss]

How much did you pay?

30 minutes incall must have been £60. Standard pricing with Lush. (I know your comment was partially intended to educate the OP on what to put in a review). Just providing the answer early if some were interested

[Tender.french.kiss]

I had the worst experience of any escort with this girl yesterday

Sorry to hear of your bad experience. To make you feel less disappointed rest assured that you have performed some good service to the group with this TOFTT. Several were potentially interested in her. I believe Alice screwed up big time and has somewhat torpedoed her start with Lush

[CoolTiger]

How much did you pay?

Comment: £60 for 30 minutes.

[Adnan001]

have u called back to the agency and told them about your dissapointment? This is totally unacceptable. lush has other good girls and girls like these with their bad attitude will ruin their reputation.as far as i know lush take complain very seriously and hearing from what you have experienced if the girl dont change her attitude she wont be working longer for them. thanks for warning us .

[consam2611]

I did immediately after I left the meeting. The agency were very sympathetic and told me, anytime such a thing occurs I should call them right there and they will ask the girl to return my money to me.

[Tender.french.kiss]

I did immediately after I left the meeting. The agency were very sympathetic and told me, anytime such a thing occurs I should call them right there and they will ask the girl to return my money to me.

You might also want to leave a feedback on their website (generic or vip if you have access to the vip). They might move it from the generic to the vip. My experience is that despite negative it does not get censored.  Might help other tentative punters who do not have a UKP account (was my case until earlier this year, I was relying purely on their internal feedback solution. Extra arguments on reviewing on their system too: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=295402.msg3082637#msg3082637

You're late. Let's do it in the dark. Not getting undressed. Titties off limits... it's more than a poor punt, it's a pisstake. She clearly deserves it.

[Adnan001]

yeah mate its totally piss taking. never ever i heard in my life that a escort is complaining of getting undressed i  mean wht the heck !! wht profession are u in lol?she deserves to get highligted i mean we are spending our hard earned cash not for this piss taking attitudes.

[Straightsix]

Secondly, that the light in the room has to be off

Thats when I would have terminated the meeting.
You look at the profile pictures, you wanna see that booty in action, you wanna watch your shaft enter and withdraw akin to an element of the industrial revolution.
Its so simple to show a man a good time. Even for the money thats exchanged, how the fuck should it be so difficult for some.

[alibirmingham]

Going off another post apparently she used to be an indie charging £200 for an hour. Wonder if she was shit at that rate too. Alice isn’t really my type but shame for other who might of wanted to see her. The agency itself may weed her out if her attitude doesn’t fix up but first time I’ve heard of them offering to return the money. Wonder if they would actually follow though on that offer. Next time I have a crap punt with a lush girl I may just put that to the test

[consam2611]

Going off another post apparently she used to be an indie charging £200 for an hour. Wonder if she was shit at that rate too. Alice isn’t really my type but shame for other who might of wanted to see her. The agency itself may weed her out if her attitude doesn’t fix up but first time I’ve heard of them offering to return the money. Wonder if they would actually follow though on that offer. Next time I have a crap punt with a lush girl I may just put that to the test

It is worth giving a trial. Because they agency was quite apologetic.

[consam2611]

yeah mate its totally piss taking. never ever i heard in my life that a escort is complaining of getting undressed i  mean wht the heck !! wht profession are u in lol?she deserves to get highligted i mean we are spending our hard earned cash not for this piss taking attitudes.

Worst of all, she even complained at a point that she was tired. I just got frustrated and left with 12 minutes left out of  a 30 minutes meeting. lol

[consam2611]

You might also want to leave a feedback on their website (generic or vip if you have access to the vip). They might move it from the generic to the vip. My experience is that despite negative it does not get censored.  Might help other tentative punters who do not have a UKP account (was my case until earlier this year, I was relying purely on their internal feedback solution. Extra arguments on reviewing on their system too: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=295402.msg3082637#msg3082637

You're late. Let's do it in the dark. Not getting undressed. Titties off limits... it's more than a poor punt, it's a pisstake. She clearly deserves it.

Yes, I have access to their VIP and have also left a review there, but I was wondering if they are going to publish it.

[Punterperson1971]

Going off another post apparently she used to be an indie charging £200 for an hour. Wonder if she was shit at that rate too. Alice isn’t really my type but shame for other who might of wanted to see her. The agency itself may weed her out if her attitude doesn’t fix up but first time I’ve heard of them offering to return the money. Wonder if they would actually follow though on that offer. Next time I have a crap punt with a lush girl I may just put that to the test

It was me who said she used to be an indie sheets in Walsall few weeks ago charging £80 for 15 mins and extras,I texted her about a meet but not at that price

[Imp8]

If you're unhappy with the meet and you know this punt's just going to get worse......terminate the booking.
You may not get back all your money,but you'll get back the Lush element, £25.
Don't Empty your bag and then ring them,they'll probably think it's a piss take,especially if you're not a regular of theirs.

[consam2611]

That is exactly what I did, I terminated the meeting with 12 minutes left, without emptying the bag. My mistake was I called the agency after I have left the apartment.

[Tender.french.kiss]

Yes, I have access to their VIP and have also left a review there, but I was wondering if they are going to publish it.

I bet they will. They always did with my 3 negs. Uncensored.  Hence why I believe they do care . I they don't then it's worth mentioning it here on UKP. They read UKP (even used to copy paste review from here to their vip site). So too much at stake for them to start censorship. Methinks

[Tender.french.kiss]

The agency itself may weed her out if her attitude doesn’t fix up but first time I’ve heard of them offering to return the money. Wonder if they would actually follow though on that offer.

I doubt it very much. Once I called them after a bad punt (refusal of some likes). They said that they'll let you  go for free but that you have to call them before the fun has started. In that case I could have called them as the girl had declined upfront, but in other cases where the girl changed her mind in the meeting then I  am afraid you're done and doubt their offer will still valid. But feedback and review are the best way to get even with a poor performing or piss taking SP

[Cryton123]

I did immediately after I left the meeting. The agency were very sympathetic and told me, anytime such a thing occurs I should call them right there and they will ask the girl to return my money to me.

That’s a nice thought but how does that work? Do you have to return to the apartment, knock on the door and expect the girl to hand back your money because you complained about her?

That could be the most awkward situation ever!

[Straightsix]

That could be the most awkward situation ever!

Indeed,  but fuck that. Punters need to grow some before the whole industry turns into the shit show its becoming with punters being short changed. More punters just leaving without a squeak, working girls laughing while you walk back to your car feeling like shit...they're smelling your money and looking at their next hand bag on Amma zone the same time.

[Imp8]

That’s a nice thought but how does that work? Do you have to return to the apartment, knock on the door and expect the girl to hand back your money because you complained about her?

That could be the most awkward situation ever!

No.....you ring them back,as soon as you've walked.
They'll credit your next booking

[escortman]

When i had a poor punt i called Lush after i had left the building ,  the female receptionist ( cannot remember her name to be honest ) very helpful said i should have stopped  the meet and call whilst in the room.

As per Imp's message call Lush they cannot be happy when a customer calls to complain..

Sorry you had a bad one consam however you have saved us our hard earned money and Alice has lost a lot of custom. I saw her pictures but thought don't take the risk.

Onwards and upwards consam

[Cryton123]

No.....you ring them back,as soon as you've walked.
They'll credit your next booking

That’s fair enough. And I guess that next booking would put a bit of pressure on the girl you’re with because she knows you’ve complained and had a credit note (assuming you wouldn’t be paying her the full amount)

So I doubt she’d give a bad service knowing you’re the type of punter who would tell the agency.

[Straightsix]

I think they would be foolish to reveal a client having complained to another girl as you say it would 'put the pressure on'. Maybe they expect you to ring up there and then because theoretically there has been no incident as you 'left satisfied' according to the girl. They have no basis for argument.
Its refreshing to know that lush is handling complaints constructively although I've yet to experience their girls.

[Cryton123]

I think they would be foolish to reveal a client having complained to another girl as you say it would 'put the pressure on'. Maybe they expect you to ring up there and then because theoretically there has been no incident as you 'left satisfied' according to the girl. They have no basis for argument.
Its refreshing to know that lush is handling complaints constructively although I've yet to experience their girls.

Punting ‘refunds’ will always cause an uncomfortable situation one way or the other. 

Agreed on Lush handling complaints in a constructive way. It’s refreshing in this business.

[Straightsix]

Punting ‘refunds’ will always cause an uncomfortable situation one way or the other. 

....precisely why we will continue to be short changed. Punters need to grow some balls.

[Tender.french.kiss]

Yes, I have access to their VIP and have also left a review there, but I was wondering if they are going to publish it.

That's it. Your neg review has been published on their vip website. Actually the only one on her profile.
Kudos to Lush for being so transparent and honest. Really refreshing and appreciable in this industry

[Tender.french.kiss]

No.....you ring them back,as soon as you've walked.
They'll credit your next booking

Are you sure about that? I know they're listening, interested and acting on clients complaints but never heard of that credit thing.

I understood they'll only allow non payment  if the meet has not properly started, so won't cover cases where the refusal of likes or the pisspoor perf takes places after the notes have changed hands.
Have you benefited yourself of this credit thing?

Thanks to clarify as this could be interesting.
I hope with UKP's help to weed out potential bad punt and avoid having real bad exp as the one from this thread. Prevention is better than cure. But you never know could still happen

[alibirmingham]

That’s fair enough. And I guess that next booking would put a bit of pressure on the girl you’re with because she knows you’ve complained and had a credit note (assuming you wouldn’t be paying her the full amount)

So I doubt she’d give a bad service knowing you’re the type of punter who would tell the agency.

I not think they credit the next punt (unless anyone else can confirm they have actually had a punt creditied) I say this bad use the bad ones I’ve complained about has always been “should of called us in the room” and never have the offered to discount my next booking.

For me I wouldn’t complain to the agency while standing next to the wg as once you complained what are the options?

A) the agency tells the wg to stop pissing about and performing services listed/agreed - but then it’s like it’s being forced on the wg and any service you get thereafter would probably be shit and point less not to mention the time taken to call, complain, and get things sorted would most likely go from your paid time and you’ll be kicked out once time is up.

B) they agency speak to the wg and the wg refuses to do services so you then have to walk anyway. They agency at that point may give you a part refund but would assume that would be dependant on how much time was left on the booking etc so could be as little as £10/£20 on a 30 min meet. Can’t see them offering anymore then that. So you wasted £40/£50 and still didn’t get to nut.

C) the agency take the side of the wg if the wg claims you unclean, rude etc and turns it all back on you to make you out to be the villain and the one who’s out of line. In which case you may get a black mark against your name, they may refuse future bookings, and may be forced to walk without any refund and without busting your nut. So a loose loose scenario really.

D) you go to try and complain and the wg gets nasty, becomes abusive, loud, aggressive, calls up the handler and your now in a mess. Thinking back I remember reading a review like this when the wg got really nasty and abusive. It’s a while back and can’t remember the post but I know it happens. Again, no nut, no refund, and a potentially violent situation and you having to face the handler/neighbours etc.

So for me personally I’d just nut the best I can, walk, never book her again, complain to agency so it’s noted at least and review as such. Punting for me is a hobby and a pass time at best so I’m not going to look for a fight etc. Sure I’ll be annoyed, pissed off etc but not the end of the world

[Straightsix]

Any bullshit i stop mid flow,  especially when agreed services are denied.
Unfortunately a smelly anus can be a difficult one, thats where I try and finish the punt rather than stopping.

[Tender.french.kiss]

what are the options?

Hi Ali, I mostly agree with your analysis but i trust that in case B Lush does not expect you to pay a dime. I also think that, in Lush case, there's a fifth possibility that exist for you to avoid being in the highly embarrassing and most probably disappointing case A: you call them and explain why you don't want to go ahead with the booking.  You don't offer them the choice. They're likely to try to offer you a replacement girl on the spot so that they dont lose their share but you're not forced to go through A with the girl and you either get a plan B offered (providing they get one to your liking and within a time frame suiting you) or retain all of your cash

[alibirmingham]

Hi Ali, I mostly agree with your analysis but i trust that in case B Lush does not expect you to pay a dime. I also think that, in Lush case, there's a fifth possibility that exist for you to avoid being in the highly embarrassing and most probably disappointing case A: you call them and explain why you don't want to go ahead with the booking.  You don't offer them the choice. They're likely to try to offer you a replacement girl on the spot so that they dont lose their share but you're not forced to go through A with the girl and you either get a plan B offered (providing they get one to your liking and within a time frame suiting you) or retain all of your cash

In all my examples I was referring to a punt already underway with your kit off. Maybe even having had oral but then the wg refuses RO or something else that’s been agreed or something that’s a deal breaker. I would think the agency and the wg is unlikely to give u all the cash back.

In the event you pay and then the services are discussed and refused etc BEFORE any services are provided by the wg then yes totally agree, ask for the money back as the punt hasn’t really started and the agency may back you up on this.

However one thing to note. An acquaintance of mine from my workplace used to moonlight as a driver for Lush. Popped up in casual convo one day and I kept shut that fact I knew what lush was let alone being a punter. He proceeded to tell me how the agency expected their drivers to bully the punters if they didn’t pay up claiming wasted time etc. Mostly on out calls where the wg would be driven to the location etc. The drivers were told to extract as much as possible at least to cover the travel costs. This is because the drivers are paid directly by the wg’s so if the wg doesn’t get paid the driver doesn’t get paid. He told me he would sometimes end up not getting paid for the driving around of the punters never paid.

So ultimately my advice would be check services BEFORE any money changes hands. That way of there is an issue at least it was agreed before payment was made and you have a stronger case.

[Straightsix]

So ultimately my advice would be check services BEFORE any money changes hands. That way of there is an issue at least it was agreed before payment was made and you have a stronger case.

It really is as simple as that. And make sure this is reiterated IN PERSON with cash in hand. If (afterwards) you don't receive the agreed services there's a good chance you weren't going to receive them anyway. We've all been addled by the small brain during such decision making but take a deep breath and do not allow yourself to be rushed.

[fisherofsouls]

FWIW the review is not visible when I follow her Lush link.

I'm not a member there though if that makes a difference?

[Straightsix]

Yeah I'd be surprised if they'd put bad feedback up.
You've been a member since 2010? When did this forum open? Im sure i was a member before.

[alibirmingham]

Yeah I'd be surprised if they'd put bad feedback up.
You've been a member since 2010? When did this forum open? Im sure i was a member before.

I was skeptical too but I have seen plenty of negative reviews on the lush site posted by both the admin and punters themselves so they seem to honest and allow bad feedback.

[Tender.french.kiss]

FWIW the review is not visible when I follow her Lush link.

I'm not a member there though if that makes a difference?

The review from the OP is there (see below), but only on the VIP website, not on the public website.
It's visible on External Link/Members Only
But not on External Link/Members Only

You need 3 bookings to have taken place without issues to be allowed to apply to the VIP member website (a great marketing move from Lush IMO).
Most of the feedbacks are on the lush vip website, not the lush public website.

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[Tender.french.kiss]

In all my examples I was referring to a punt already underway with your kit off.

Ok. I had assumed it was a wider view of the possibilities.

As to the instructions to drivers this is a very interesting insight. Not that I'll ever use outcalls but interesting on a business pov.  Cheers

[Straightsix]

The review from the OP is there (see below), but only on the VIP website, not on the public website.
It's visible on External Link/Members Only
But not on External Link/Members Only

I was wondering

[Tender.french.kiss]

Coincidence? 
After the OP's neg review duplicated on their VIP  Lush has obtained 7 more feedbacks from other clients.  And amongst them another negative:

Monday, 08 February 2021 20:25 posted by MAIN ADMIN
She was refusing everything apart from owo and nothing else. No kissing, no touching and refusing everything what I asked for.
(VIA PHONE)

She definitely won't make it to my HL

[consam2611]

Coincidence? 
After the OP's neg review duplicated on their VIP  Lush has obtained 7 more feedbacks from other clients.  And amongst them another negative:

Monday, 08 February 2021 20:25 posted by MAIN ADMIN
She was refusing everything apart from owo and nothing else. No kissing, no touching and refusing everything what I asked for.
(VIA PHONE)

She definitely won't make it to my HL

I don't really see her going far, and I am not surprised. She is too full of herself.

[consam2611]

That's it. Your neg review has been published on their vip website. Actually the only one on her profile.
Kudos to Lush for being so transparent and honest. Really refreshing and appreciable in this industry

Thanks Tender.french.kiss, I have seen the review. I was really pleased.