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Offline PRIYA-X

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Oh this one is going to be pleasing to watch...  :bomb:

If I leave it long enough will you argue with yourself?  You seem to be from the same school as Shagman so give it 72 hrs and you'll have loads of time back on your hands.

I’m not even going to bother with this one. He’s clearly made up his mind about knowing the intricacies of every woman who has ever escorted and their decisions.
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Offline NotATrumpFan

No, SPs who genuinely retire, wipe all traces.
So presumably you know a huge number of SP's personally, who have done this, in order to make this sweeping generalisation?

Offline Jerk Chicken

Whenever somebody does something that is different from the accepted norm it makes us sit up and take notice and in certain circumstances suspicion arises. This is one such case.

I can see where @MattyLondon is coming from. If a SP has genuinely retired then it does beg the question why an individual is still active on a punting forum. The said SP originally stated that she wanted to see what was said about her and that was the primary reason. But I have since noticed she has contributed to another thread on a completely different topic that was only created in the last week or so. As I said earlier in this thread the SPs I met that have retired wiped all traces of their escorting life and moved on immediately but then as we know not all SPs are the same.

So whilst what Priya says may well be true, (that she has retired) we can surely understand why @MattyLondon reached the conclusions he did (that she is stil fucking the odd regular hence remaining active on a punting site). Based on behaviour pattern they are an entirely reasonable even if they may not be accurate.
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Offline PRIYA-X

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The primary reason was that; the secondary reason which I think I also communicated was that I had genuinely been interested in this world.
The reason I continue to contribute is that I am now in the fortunate position where I can afford to give blunt honesty at questions directed at SPs - because I no longer risk alienating myself or losing business by saying something people might not want to hear/makes me look unlikeable as a service provider.
It’s a position and a view (as far as I am aware) that no other SP is currently able to offer on this site; what’s the point of remaining a member if I don’t contribute? It’s a bit of a take/take situation at that instance - something which isn’t favoured here understandably.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2019, 09:12:59 am by PRIYA-X »

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Whenever somebody does something that is different from the accepted norm it makes us sit up and take notice and in certain circumstances suspicion arises. This is one such case.

I can see where @MattyLondon is coming from. If a SP has genuinely retired then it does beg the question why an individual is still active on a punting forum. The said SP originally stated that she wanted to see what was said about her and that was the primary reason. But I have since noticed she has contributed to another thread on a completely different topic that was only created in the last week or so. As I said earlier in this thread the SPs I met that have retired wiped all traces of their escorting life and moved on immediately but then as we know not all SPs are the same.

So whilst what Priya says may well be true, (that she has retired) we can surely understand why @MattyLondon reached the conclusions he did (that she is stil fucking the odd regular hence remaining active on a punting site). Based on behaviour pattern they are an entirely reasonable even if they may not be accurate.

And how many retired punters still loiter?
Don't tell me "they're different" because that is thinking beneath what you've demonstrated on other matters.
There are retired SPs still active within the struggle for rights and equality of prostitutes and if it were not for their agitation our hobby would probably be even more under threat both politically and other avenues.  "Safe" punting would not be so easy to find.
@Matty's juvenile reductivism makes him safe and secure in his unsophisticated world view haunted by his unresolved self-loathing and hypocritical condemnation of the women he relies upon to entertain his needs.

Offline Jerk Chicken

I totally get both the last posts from @Priya and @LL Punting.

But I reaffirm the view the suspicion is not unreasonable within the realms of the facts before us.

I don't think @MattyLondon assumptions should be dismissed as poppycock nor bourne out of insecurity as he has set out quite clearly, wrongly or rightly, why he reached those conclusions. To me, the same principle would apply to an ex punter who posted "I am now in love, getting married and havge quit punting"  but continued to post on UKP because it was still of interest to him. I would expect the said punter to get hammered by some on here.

Difference of opinions is why this site continues to thrive moreso when the tenets of his response cannot be dismissed as fantasy.
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Offline mattylondon

I totally get both the last posts from @Priya and @LL Punting.

But I reaffirm the view the suspicion is not unreasonable within the realms of the facts before us.

I don't think @MattyLondon assumptions should be dismissed as poppycock nor bourne out of insecurity as he has set out quite clearly, wrongly or rightly, why he reached those conclusions. To me, the same principle would apply to an ex punter who posted "I am now in love, getting married and havge quit punting"  but continued to post on UKP because it was still of interest to him. I would expect the said punter to get hammered by some on here.

Difference of opinions is why this site continues to thrive moreso when the tenets of his response cannot be dismissed as fantasy.
This.

And me thinks that she and her cheerleader, white knight friend, doth protest too much.  :hi:

My opinion is based on my personal experience with several prossys over the years, who I got to know outside of a booking environment, as social friends and my own intuition. Some of who I fucked for free (yes it does happen but not enough as I'd have liked!), as with a regular civvy fuck buddy or swinger and others who I simply shared the odd drink with, now and then. I think some people on here forget that prossys are real people too!

Of course, it stands to reason that one cannot assume one size fits all, but it is fair to state an opinion based on the balance of probabilities and one's experience.

I say what I believe and others are completely free to disagree.

This is all within the same ball-park as those saddo punters, who start creating threads, announcing to all and sundry that they're quitting UKP and punting in general. I believe they also fall into this 'attention whore' category and I'm on record of calling them out too, as have other punters. If you're going to quit UKP or punting, you'll just fuck off and stop posting! Nobody who's genuine, gives a fuck about making announcements.

All that she's doing (as yet another attention whore who is secretly loving it) by continuing to read and make posts on this thread and others, is simply reinforcing my point. She's about as retired as my ball sack, in terms of having no more to do with my punting!

I wouldn't know of any personal insecurities I have on this matter?  :crazy: And as I've blocked the pair of them, I have no idea or care what they've posted.  :)

I've know women who retired out of genuine conviction, wiping all traces of their previous life. And I mean everything, which included continuing to contact me in some cases, which is absolutely the correct thing to do.  I've also known others, who I believe constitute the majority, who 'retired' online but kept seeing punters with a new number (me included) or 'retired' in the main because a guy with money has promised to 'look after them'. I believe that this woman falls into the latter category and it has very little to do with the size of this guys cock and more to do with the size of his wallet!!  :D

As I say, time will tell, won't it? I look forward to seeing a comeback AW profile, albeit under a different name, no doubt, in due course, as soon as either the money runs out or the guy gets bored of her.  :hi:

Offline Nevillec

Thanks for the review op
Been trying to see her for a while now
Much clearer what to expect
As always ymmv

Offline GMontag

Just to declare my interests on the outset: I don't know Priya,never came across her profile while she was active so never tried to book her. I have no prior opinion of her. Also do not know shagman  outside his posts on this topic. My comment are just as a member of the forum as while I punt I am also very curious about that which drives punters in this hobby of ours, the sort of women we are differently attracted to and our experiences.

I also have found it odd that the ex-SP in question is still active on this forum especially outside this topic. MattyLondon makes a lot of valid points and as this is a punters forum to help punters he has every right to express his thoughts as clearly as he did. I've been on certain forums to seek information on a range of topics over the years and I found once I either achieved what I wanted or no longer interested I dropped off them. If she's really retired as she says, I would imagine that her loss of WG income would require focusing on a new career. This would take time and effort,like any other career which would result in a natural drop off from here. Why would she want to be reading of the experiences of clients of her 'former competitors'. If she is being an advocate of the profession, wouldn't the WG forum be the natural place to go share advice on? Kind of like an ex drug dealer hanging out with addicts because they feel they can help them on how to score the best drugs or an alcoholic joining a drinking club just to see how people behave.

I also have known a few ex-WGs. While not representative, the ones who have really put back the career behind them have not looked back. The "easy" money I imagine can be quite addictive. It's also sort of the same even with punters. There are times I decide actively not to punt and that always coincides with me not even reading this forum. Once I start browsing here, or commenting it's because one way or another I have picked up interest in the hobby again.
Wish her the best in her relationship but I wouldn't be surprised if either somewhere down the line, with her continued involvement in various topics here, she returns with the headline "I'm back after an extended break fresh for my lovely regulars and new clients, formerly known as (insert name here)"

And on meeting up with previous regulars, it happens more than we think. I met a lady a while back for an outcall who I had a great time with. Met a couple of times after. She then informed me after about a year that she was off aw. I hadn't noticed as I would usually contact her directly by text when I wanted to book a meeting. She explained she was now in a relationship but was still keen on seeing me whenever. Same performance everytime, still in touch with her! Another did respond to my message asking for a repeat visit saying she was no longer in the game due to a relationship. 3 months later, sent a text informing me she was back.
Interesting hobby this is.
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Offline jesse4585

I am also very curious about that which drives punters in this hobby of ours, the sort of women we are differently attracted to and our experiences.
Well said.  For someone interested in people,  this adds considerably to the fascination of this forum.  Not that I'm a big internet person, but can't think of a more interesting web site than this one. Folk are honest about certain motivations in a way I've not seen anywhere else.  As an infrequent punter, I've been spending way more time reading this site than I need to for punting intel.

Woman on average tend to be even more interested in people than men, so it makes sense some x-WGs would be at least as fascinated as punters.

As some are saying,  for some x-WGs, it would still be the right thing to do to tear themselves completely away - e.g. if they regard sex work as a dark temptation.

Priya seems to be different - taking her at her word she doesn't feel any temptation to return as she's met the love of her life. And likewise she seems to have a non judgemental attitude to sex work, not seeing it as something to be ashamed of.

So no obvious reason why she shouldn't continue to take part here. In some ways she may be able to contribute better than other WGs as she's free to be totally frank, as she doesnt have to worry about alienating potential customers.   

All that said, there does come a point where participation in even the most interesting internet site becomes time wasting.

Offline Jerk Chicken

@MattyLondon and @GMontag ... incisive and interesting posts on this very interesting topic that goes beyond the ex SP.

Just want to add that I too fall into both your brackets in still punting ex WGs who have "retired" so I can truly identify with that. One in particular is a once a month punt when her partner is away on business. She tells me I am one of her "trusted" ex regulars. I know that to be kinda true as I know her real name and other stuff. I know I am not the only one of her "trusted" ex regulars.

The said SP, I am reliably informed from the two gents I know that met her, does (or did) have a very well-paid full time job so there is no need to focus on a new career as such.

The more I think of it the more bizarre the scenario becomes. But for sure the more you look and browse your old stomping ground it stands to reason the more likely you are to return. It is for this reason why the WGs I know who were regulars (some gave  me the fuck of my life and I sometimes yearn for just ONE more bite) I have no way of contacting them because they have truly retired/ moved o. For example one of my favs (a total super honey with brains to match) was fucking to pay for studies now qualified in xyz so, goal achieved and has now tossed the stilettos in the river and all paraphernalia that was associated with it.

@jesse4585 .. Priya was always free to make frank comments on UKP and not risk her business model so that is a false veil of protection. This site encourages you not to use the same username as you use on other sites for that very reason so I am not buying that.

So yes this is becoming a strange one where the jury is out...



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Offline jesse4585

@jesse4585 .. Priya was always free to make frank comments on UKP and not risk her business model so that is a false veil of protection. This site encourages you not to use the same username as you use on other sites for that very reason so I am not buying that.
The site does indeed encourage a punter not to use their AW ID.

It's different for WGs. The rules state: "All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'."
I've only checked out a 2 or 3 of the WGs posting on here, but they all had the same user name as their AW id, which seems to have previously been the case for Priya.

Offline Jerk Chicken

The site does indeed encourage a punter not to use their AW ID.

It's different for WGs. The rules state: "All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'."
I've only checked out a 2 or 3 of the WGs posting on here, but they all had the same user name as their AW id, which seems to have previously been the case for Priya.

Fair play .... however I suspect the more savy WG is on here incognito.
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Offline jesse4585

I suspect the more savy WG is on here incognito.
More than likely, also agree most WG's would have the same attitude to retirement as your examples, at least going by my limited experience. Priya seems a genuine exception IMO,  as has been said time may tell.

Offline PRIYA-X

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More than likely, also agree most WG's would have the same attitude to retirement as your examples, at least going by my limited experience. Priya seems a genuine exception IMO,  as has been said time may tell.


I don’t feel any need to completely eradicate any trace of my former life because I’m not ashamed or regretful of it. Quite the contrary, it served me a purpose and I’ve gained a lot from it financially. I had an end point in mind to begin with once I had reached a certain goal; I was approaching that this year anyway before I met my partner.
It’s not damaged me emotionally, I don’t have any regrets from it; it was an interesting life which granted me financial freedom and so I don’t feel the need to hide away under the radar and pretend it never happened. If I did, I would be guilty of contributing to the stigma that surrounds sex work; as if it’s something dirty. It’s not.

Totally understand the points made; and yes, the volume of additional “disposable” income is something that’s difficult to leave, but I always knew it was finite.

Offline NotATrumpFan

All that said, there does come a point where participation in even the most interesting internet site becomes time wasting.

Thats a fair point, but people do all sorts of things to waste time.  I mean some people watch TOWIE and "Strictly come dancing", others play soduku, and some obviously enjoy talking online about sex.  Each to their own.   :unknown:

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And me thinks that she and her cheerleader, white knight friend, doth protest too much.  :hi:
Hoping Matty doesn't mean me, but those classifications would further testify to his closed-minded, judgmental and error-prone approach.

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 I think some people on here forget that prossys are real people too!

Do you really believe this?  In which case why condemn Priya out of the gate?

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Of course, it stands to reason that one cannot assume one size fits all...

So you'd be prepared to set fire to all your presumption given reason?

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...balance of probabilities and one's experience...

I say what I believe and others are completely free to disagree.

Probabilities derived from where?  What's your sample size?  Mentioning "probabilities" does not give any weight to the legitimacy of your presumptions.  Some of us have chosen to disagree.

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All that she's doing (as yet another attention whore who is secretly loving it) by continuing to read and make posts on this thread and others, is simply reinforcing my point. She's about as retired as my ball sack, in terms of having no more to do with my punting!
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Your point is a presumption based only on your resentment of the fact she's posting on this site after saying she's quit being an SP (for now) and how it doesn't fit with your experience of several other women who have entirely different life circumstances, values and ambitions.  It reinforces your belief/opinion, it does not have to materially convince anyone else.  The fact that you are so forcefully opining indicates your need to be acknowledged as justified or truthful.  Anyone genuinely just wanting to say their point and move on, respecting that others have different opinions would've just moved on.

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I wouldn't know of any personal insecurities I have on this matter?  :crazy: And as I've blocked the pair of them, I have no idea or care what they've posted.  :)

And no desire to become more self-aware or question why others question your opinion.

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I've know women who retired out of genuine conviction, wiping all traces of their previous life. And I mean everything, which included continuing to contact me in some cases, which is absolutely the correct thing to do.  I've also known others, who I believe constitute the majority, who 'retired' online but kept seeing punters with a new number (me included) or 'retired' in the main because a guy with money has promised to 'look after them'. I believe that this woman falls into the latter category and it has very little to do with the size of this guys cock and more to do with the size of his wallet!!  :D

Very good of you to qualify the limit of your experience and then make the conclusion that Priya has to conform to your belief because you must've met all the women with stories necessary to describe every other woman you'll meet.


Offline James

this girl has more attention as a retired girl then a working one, shes probably loving it, reading it.
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Offline finn5555

Some right fluffy fuckers posting on this thread  :dash:

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think it should be closed, the reviewer was fake looks like it, one man posted a selfie of himself. the girl is possibly touting for when she may come back.

i agree these prosse love the money and will always do private work. easiest 200 quid to make for some.
and lots of fluffy people.
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... MattyLondon makes a lot of valid points and as this is a punters forum to help punters he has every right to express his thoughts as clearly as he did...
I was contesting his opinions, whether rationalised from the points of "fact" he quoted or conjured from elsewhere.  Read his posts again and much of what he said was coloured by hateful language that is unnecessary and undermines his attempts at "fair" reasoning.

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I've been on certain forums to seek information on a range of topics over the years and I found once I either achieved what I wanted or no longer interested I dropped off them. If she's really retired as she says.  I would imagine that her loss of WG income would require focusing on a new career. This would take time and effort,like any other career which would result in a natural drop off from here. Why would she want to be reading of the experiences of clients of her 'former competitors'.

And she has only really been draw to comment on threads that directly involved her.  (56 comments in total over 2+ years hardly makes her attention seeking let alone particularly engaged.)  Read her postings and you may change your opinion of the type of woman she appears to be.

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...If she is being an advocate of the profession, wouldn't the WG forum be the natural place to go share advice on? Kind of like an ex drug dealer hanging out with addicts because they feel they can help them on how to score the best drugs or an alcoholic joining a drinking club just to see how people behave.

Given the way some posters talk about SPs any advocate for SPs would be interested in participating when necessary.
And there's never been a case of ex-addicts going on to become helpers, advocates, mentors, champions and campaigners for the better treatment, help and rehab of other addicts?

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...Once I start browsing here, or commenting it's because one way or another I have picked up interest in the hobby again.

Indeed, one way or another.

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Interesting hobby this is.

Yup, lucky you too meeting SPs who couldn't completely say goodbye to the extra earnings or were unlucky in love/RL that they had to come back to the trade.  How many other SPs have you never seen again after they quit?  How many of those do you know went on to continue to see punters for money despite now being civvies?
We know that girls return or don't completely retire but on the balance of the evidence we as a community can supply several dozens cases out of 80000+ sex workers currently working ('00,000s over the years that we may recollect our exceptions over.

It's one thing to say I know it happened to concluding that it will likely happen for someone else whose circumstances you cannot correlate to any other SP you know who did return or continue to see punters for cash.

Offline mattylondon

It's also sort of the same even with punters. There are times I decide actively not to punt and that always coincides with me not even reading this forum. Once I start browsing here, or commenting it's because one way or another I have picked up interest in the hobby again.

This. Exactly the same as my approach.

I didn't find this SP particularly interesting, when I first read this thread. I was more interested the discussion points arising from it. And the psychology of whores and punters alike. There will always be protagonists and there will always be white knight cheerleaders, when a prossy is involved in a thread. Even when one is meant to be 'retired'!  :rolleyes:

And your experience with that woman who went officially 'off the grid', but still continued to see you... even texting you when she was finally 'back' on AW, exactly mirrors mine with a few. I hope that she at least kept you at a discounted rate, if it was no longer free! 

In my experience, these new found 'love of their life' relationships broke down due to three reasons.

1. The financial tap was turned off, when the guy got bored of subbing them or the novelty of fucking a 'whore' for 'free' wore off... which is inevitable when you're in their company 24/7, rather than the short term hotel / incall 'fantasy experience'. I know this personally, as I'm sure other punters do too. One soon gets bored and yearns for fresh meat.  :cool:

2. The woman 'catches' the guy continuing to either see escorts or civvys.

3. The guy cannot handle it mentally and constantly 'throws back in their face', that she used to be a whore - jealousy.

I was always amused when they moaned about points 2 and 3, as they were clearly oblivious to the fact that they were indeed a whore, by continuing to suck my cock and other 'favored' punters! So those men were completely justified, but then I had little sympathy for them if they knew what they were taking on.  It's a similar mentality with prossys, who have husbands or boyfriends, yet tell me they'd cut their partners nuts off if they ever found him 'cheating'.. especially with another prossy. Which to them is the ultimate sin!

I believe the prossys who succeed are those who totally put their past life behind them. This isn't any different from any vocation or even relationship, when one decides to move on.

What a strange world that we live in!

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this girl has more attention as a retired girl then a working one, shes probably loving it, reading it.
No doubt about that!   :)

And I'll wait for the inevitable punchline in a few weeks, months..... "Hiya guys!! I'm back, as I've missed all my lovely ex-regulars! Please get back in touch!  :rolleyes:

Offline GMontag

I was contesting his opinions, whether rationalised from the points of "fact" he quoted or conjured from elsewhere.  Read his posts again and much of what he said was coloured by hateful language that is unnecessary and undermines his attempts at "fair" reasoning.

And she has only really been draw to comment on threads that directly involved her.  (56 comments in total over 2+ years hardly makes her attention seeking let alone particularly engaged.)  Read her postings and you may change your opinion of the type of woman she appears to be.

Given the way some posters talk about SPs any advocate for SPs would be interested in participating when necessary.
And there's never been a case of ex-addicts going on to become helpers, advocates, mentors, champions and campaigners for the better treatment, help and rehab of other addicts?

Indeed, one way or another.

Yup, lucky you too meeting SPs who couldn't completely say goodbye to the extra earnings or were unlucky in love/RL that they had to come back to the trade.  How many other SPs have you never seen again after they quit?  How many of those do you know went on to continue to see punters for money despite now being civvies?
We know that girls return or don't completely retire but on the balance of the evidence we as a community can supply several dozens cases out of 80000+ sex workers currently working ('00,000s over the years that we may recollect our exceptions over.

It's one thing to say I know it happened to concluding that it will likely happen for someone else whose circumstances you cannot correlate to any other SP you know who did return or continue to see punters for cash.

Well, good to read your opinion as with everyones on here. As for the SP herself my comments were not an attack more of my own view based on her engagement on this forum and the impression she wants people to have of her. In the end we all do not really know who we all are as this is more or less an anonymous forum. The WGs we all meet generally have to put up an act to handle seeing people of various shapes and sizes. And a good act it is for those who are good SPs. But still an act. No matter what they may say they all do it for the money, wether to achieve a life goal or to keep up a habit it's still the same means to an end. A choice they made rather than pursuing other careers. And all the better for punters as we also have made the choice for different reasons to punt when in general we could also spend the time/effort/money to pursue civvies. We choose this hobby as it serves as a short cut to also achieve our aims.

I have no opinion about Priya, wish her luck in her private life. My views were based on my own experience as has been echoed by others. Not a sample size enough yes but then also the same as 1 WG stating she is "different", we don't know. Not that I care. If she remains with her new love, they live happily ever after. If she returns, she will make certain punters, on and off this forum, very happy and also benefit financially from it. Happy days.all around!

Offline Jerk Chicken

I go back to one of my earlier points

Priya's angle and reasons are different from the "society accepted norm" so we must understand that  subsequent challenges are normal and should be considered reasonable.

As psychology has now been introduced into this thread ... a psychologist may well suggest (despite what Priya says) selling your body for financial reward is deviant behaviour and equally a punter paying for pussy is also deviant behaviour. It is for this reason why many punters and WGs go to extreme lengths to hide what they are up to Priya included. So it then follows to take it a stage further the suspicion manifests itself when punters find it hard to accept that the individual continues to engage in deviant behaviour but claims she has quit.

I have to stress I am not saying I disbelieve Priya. As @GMontag says this is an anonymous forum and we have no clue why Priya continues to be active on UKP and what the real motives are.

I am just putting it out there that surely one can understand if deviant behaviour continues to be present then it is likely the conclusion that will be drawn, wrongly or rightly, is that the action that society generally does not accept, in this case selling your body for cash, is still present.

We are all going to have to agree to disagree on this one as to what the real motives are.

Good debate though even if it has gone on a tad tooooo long lol :wackogirl:
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I go back to one of my earlier points

Priya's angle and reasons are different from the "society accepted norm" so we must understand that  subsequent challenges are normal and should be considered reasonable.

As psychology has now been introduced into this thread ... a psychologist may well suggest (despite what Priya says) selling your body for financial reward is deviant behaviour and equally a punter paying for pussy is also deviant behaviour. It is for this reason why many punters and WGs go to extreme lengths to hide what they are up to Priya included. So it then follows to take it a stage further the suspicion manifests itself when punters find it hard to accept that the individual continues to engage in deviant behaviour but claims she has quit.

I have to stress I am not saying I disbelieve Priya. As @GMontag says this is an anonymous forum and we have no clue why Priya continues to be active on UKP and what the real motives are.

I am just putting it out there that surely one can understand if deviant behaviour continues to be present then it is likely the conclusion that will be drawn, wrongly or rightly, is that the action that society generally does not accept, in this case selling your body for cash, is still present.

We are all going to have to agree to disagree on this one as to what the real motives are.

Good debate though even if it has gone on a tad tooooo long lol :wackogirl:

Deviant behaviour acknowledges individuals departing from norms which means Priya's claims are equally valid deviations from SP norms.  Deviation is not attributed to one sequence of behaviours and outcomes.  I am not denying the possibility touted by the cynically bitter may come to pass, I am arguing against the poisonous condemnation some individuals choose to spout in the absence of any personal knowledge of her circumstances.  Schadenfreude ex post facto is acceptable but this knee-jerk hate is more about the failings of the spouters.
Society has permitted the Law to be set that permits prostitution and its purchase it is only the religiously righteous (and sanctimonious) that berate, harangue and harass the majority because they are given disproportionately more volume and column inches than all the ooohs, ahhs and orifices of the prostitutes and johns rabbiting away on a daily basis.
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Deviant behaviour acknowledges individuals departing from norms which means Priya's claims are equally valid deviations from SP norms.  Deviation is not attributed to one sequence of behaviours and outcomes.  I am not denying the possibility touted by the cynically bitter may come to pass, I am arguing against the poisonous condemnation some individuals choose to spout in the absence of any personal knowledge of her circumstances.  Schadenfreude ex post facto is acceptable but this knee-jerk hate is more about the failings of the spouters.
Society has permitted the Law to be set that permits prostitution and its purchase it is only the religiously righteous (and sanctimonious) that berate, harangue and harass the majority because they are given disproportionately more volume and column inches than all the ooohs, ahhs and orifices of the prostitutes and johns rabbiting away on a daily basis.

I totally agree with majority of your response. Where I differ is this:-

(1) Priya is an ex SP. and therefore the society "rules" with regards to her former profession no longer apply to her in the loosest sense. Reviewing a punting site is classed as deviant behaviour. Does continued deviant behaviour make it more likely that what Priya says is true? That is to say she has quit completely? A psychologist probability model would say unlikely but it is possible. Hence deep punter suspicion. I accept I too am one of those deviants. Mum always berated me as a kid for not following the rules  :unknown:

(2) The law is a product of religious doctorine not the other way round. Without going to deep prostitution is woven deeply into the do and don't  of religion hence the law has found a way to allow it to take place in most societies today.

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I totally agree with majority of your response. Where I differ is this:-

(1) Priya is an ex SP. and therefore the society "rules" with regards to her former profession no longer apply to her in the loosest sense. Reviewing a punting site is classed as deviant behaviour. Does continued deviant behaviour make it more likely that what Priya says is true? That is to say she has quit completely? A psychologist probability model would say unlikely but it is possible. Hence deep punter suspicion. I accept I too am one of those deviants. Mum always berated me as a kid for not following the rules  :unknown:

(2) The law is a product of religious doctorine not the other way round. Without going to deep prostitution is woven deeply into the do and don't  of religion hence the law has found a way to allow it to take place in most societies today.

Just a small response to point (1) because I found it intriguing.
If someone were to have an interest in something, perhaps taking it up as a part time hobby then leaving it - does that mean the interest too goes away? I would apply that to my own situation. Whilst I have stopped escorting, it remains a world I was involved in for a long time and so the fascination with the subject itself continues. Nevertheless; I would be the first to admit to describing it as a “non-standard” interest which appeals to the minority (or at the very least, those who would admit openly to it).

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She will be back if she isn’t already fucking her regs  :rolleyes:
Stacking shelves don’t pay as well as sucking the cock of every Tom Dick and Abdul  :hi:

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Just a small response to point (1) because I found it intriguing.
If someone were to have an interest in something, perhaps taking it up as a part time hobby then leaving it - does that mean the interest too goes away? I would apply that to my own situation. Whilst I have stopped escorting, it remains a world I was involved in for a long time and so the fascination with the subject itself continues. Nevertheless; I would be the first to admit to describing it as a “non-standard” interest which appeals to the minority (or at the very least, those who would admit openly to it).
Totally follow your train of thought. No way can or would an interest suddenly stop especially on the emotive subject of escorting.

However the thinking here, I believe, from punters is one can have an interest from afar so for example if a documentary pops up or there is a piece in the newspaper regarding prostitution I would expect as an ex WG you would have a greater interest than most.

To extend that interest to actively participating on a punting forum where you was member when you was a WG is where the challenge and cynicism about your motives come to the fore.
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I totally agree with majority of your response. Where I differ is this:-

(1) Priya is an ex SP. and therefore the society "rules" with regards to her former profession no longer apply to her in the loosest sense. Reviewing a punting site is classed as deviant behaviour. Does continued deviant behaviour make it more likely that what Priya says is true? That is to say she has quit completely? A psychologist probability model would say unlikely but it is possible. Hence deep punter suspicion. I accept I too am one of those deviants. Mum always berated me as a kid for not following the rules  :unknown:

(2) The law is a product of religious doctorine not the other way round. Without going to deep prostitution is woven deeply into the do and don't  of religion hence the law has found a way to allow it to take place in most societies today.

Dude, people who are capable of deviating from norms can do so vs any norm.  You cannot prohibit someone from exhibiting a behaviour (you don't believe in) because they have deviated elsewhere in the space of possibilities.  A person who is prepared to do unusual things is quite capable of doing unusual things elsewhere and arguable more likely to not conform, whether in associated matters or distinct ones.  Leonardo Da Vinci being a case in point, Barack Obama, Margaret Thatcher, anyone at the forefront of research in any discipline, any original composer, any philosopher or open-minded theologian.

The Law in this cosmopolitan, non-denominational society may enshrine certain tenets and values coincident with religious teachings (across faiths) AND humanitarian belief,. which are for the common good like do no harm, do not steal, but it is otherwise dispassionate about the position of religion where that infringes on personal freedoms of thought and action that violate no other person's safety.  Hence why we have LGBTQ+ legislation, anti-racism, anti-discrimination, etc.

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Totally follow your train of thought. No way can or would an interest suddenly stop especially on the emotive subject of escorting.

However the thinking here, I believe, from punters is one can have an interest from afar so for example if a documentary pops up or there is a piece in the newspaper regarding prostitution I would expect as an ex WG you would have a greater interest than most.

To extend that interest to actively participating on a punting forum where you was member when you was a WG is where the challenge and cynicism about your motives come to the fore.

This is like saying that in order to distance oneself from a hobby i.e. not be so keen, that you cease to monitor the most influential or informed sources.  Going from being very interested in quality reporting to only occasionally indulging it by reading the Mirror instead of whatever reputable title.

I'm still interested in developments in aviation and militaria but not as much as I used to be, that doesn't mean I dump Jane's or other dedicated periodicals and information sites that are best in class, I just read them less.  My visit to such resources may be a casual encounter with the subject from a doco or poorly written article, but once I've seen that the reporting may be poor then I will develop a better picture by going to trusted sources.  That might include forums that I've long been silent on but may need me to pipe up and ask a question.

Ex-addicts continue to go to meetings (perhaps less frequently) even when they have regained control of their compulsion.  They may do so to socialise with people who are truly sympathetic with their circumstances, especially when they are troubled or anxious and want support to not falter in their dealing with something.  That doesn't mean they don't also talk to others in their lives outside of this circle in a "normal" fashion.

Offline Jerk Chicken

@LLPunting...

I think you are missing the general theme of the responses I have posted throughout this very fascinating thread.

For the avoidance of doubt I am not challenging what you say with regards to deviant behaviour per se. That, to me, is a given and the figures quoted in the public domain serve to illustrate that point. What I am putting out there is a failure to appreciate a) how and why  the suspicion has arisen and more importantly  b) is the suspicion a reasonable train of thought for many to have. To take the legal definition of reasonable (not verbatim) it is simply "what a reasonable man would do given a set of circumstances". Of course the law does not define what reasonable is but is attempting to echoe what the majority of people would do or think in this thread.

Insofar as Priya even if the doubters are wrong (and frankly we are unlikely to ever know) we simply cannot dismiss the cynicism and say it is all half baked theories without foundation from insecure and disgruntled punters using small data samples or skewed personal experiences et al. That would be deeply unfair. I repeat the suspicion is justified even if it is ultimately wrong and Priya if she continues to be active on this forum will simply have accept this.

Religion and the judiciary. Best we park that one. It is lengthy and complex.  :D
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Offline mattylondon

History on UKP and in the real world too is replete with some prostitutes trying to persuade me in the flesh or state to others on forums that somehow they're 'different' or a 'special case' to be considered.

I'm not having any of it.

I wonder what 'her guy' would think about her continuing to be a member of and post on a Male dominated punting forum. If he was ever aware in the first place. I suspect it wouldn't be taken too well. Another form of deceptive,  deviant behaviour, such as continuing to fuck favoured regs unofficially. Its all part of the same pattern to me. We're all deviant on here  in a way..

Perhaps people like her really believe that they're different or say it to themselves so many times, they actually start to believe it.

Nothing special here that I can see, other than another form of attention seeking, prospective touting for a future 'come back'.

As with all these things, nothing is 100% certain. Nobody has a monopoly on wisdom. However, based on the balance of probabilities, lure of the easy, tax free cash, flexible hours, her looks / nice figure and the fact that most of these 'love of my life' relationships simply do not last, the natural default position will be back to 'full time' whoring soon enough.

I know what my money's on.

And who knows, just for kicks, I may even break my rate restrictions and punt her.   :P

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