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Offline tp69

Firstly you are I do not no that for sure, but being a Soho walk up and a Hungarian probably not. Do not need to be a brain surgeon to point that out  :D.

As you and TP69 have gone trawling through my reviews looking for Ammo, perhaps you would read the posts that say I no longer want to punt through the advertising platforms, which Soho is not, because of the state of the game, there is better fun to be had.

You both are happy to use agencies, you keep telling everyone you know everything about them and push the uneducated insecure airheads who mutilate themselves and degrade themselves to rich Arabs so they can mutilate some more.

Which means you are happy to condone those earning from a woman selling sex, which in turn suggests you have no thought or care of the situation they may or not be in or how it effects them, so long as you get what you pay for, and the agency get their cut all is good in the world.

I have never punted an agency, and as TP said no pimp is getting rich on my money, the Hungarian has come and gone from the East End for years, Soho is Soho.
You both though, while searching for ammo, neglected the Lithuanian, selective reading  :D, who I can guarantee is totally independent after getting to know her, though that is pretty clear from the profile and the way she operates anyway, no one under control of another takes themselves off to sausage fests for fun.

Keep digging lads, and using adjectives  :D, It makes me think you have run out of arguments to justify your paying of pimps and your conscience is not as clear as you would like it to be.  :D
You cannot change the fact these agencies make a living from others selling sex and do so illegally according to the law, you are very obviously happy with that, but cannot accept others are not  :D, You are wasting your time trying to justify it.

You really can waffle, none of which has any relevance as you obviously don't read, so I'm out.

Offline somedouche

I called them today and was taken aback when a dude answered the phone. Never had a guy answer a pussy hotline, UK or abroad...  :scare:

Offline Liverpool

Firstly you are I do not no that for sure, but being a Soho walk up and a Hungarian probably not. Do not need to be a brain surgeon to point that out  :D.

As you and TP69 have gone trawling through my reviews looking for Ammo, perhaps you would read the posts that say I no longer want to punt through the advertising platforms, which Soho is not, because of the state of the game, there is better fun to be had.

You both are happy to use agencies, you keep telling everyone you know everything about them and push the uneducated insecure airheads who mutilate themselves and degrade themselves to rich Arabs so they can mutilate some more.

Which means you are happy to condone those earning from a woman selling sex, which in turn suggests you have no thought or care of the situation they may or not be in or how it effects them, so long as you get what you pay for, and the agency get their cut all is good in the world.

I have never punted an agency, and as TP said no pimp is getting rich on my money, the Hungarian has come and gone from the East End for years, Soho is Soho.
You both though, while searching for ammo, neglected the Lithuanian, selective reading  :D, who I can guarantee is totally independent after getting to know her, though that is pretty clear from the profile and the way she operates anyway, no one under control of another takes themselves off to sausage fests for fun.

Keep digging lads, and using adjectives  :D, It makes me think you have run out of arguments to justify your paying of pimps and your conscience is not as clear as you would like it to be.  :D
You cannot change the fact these agencies make a living from others selling sex and do so illegally according to the law, you are very obviously happy with that, but cannot accept others are not  :D, You are wasting your time trying to justify it.

Your argument that "Soho is Soho" is flawed in terms of your well meaning attempts to see girls who take home 100% of the money. Soho girls don't do that as I have explained. They have to see a considerable amount of punters before they can break even and start earning.
Furthermore you have no way of knowing, just like me, if they are then going home to a pimp who is then taking a cut.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2022, 12:05:54 am by Liverpool »

Offline petermisc

I called them today and was taken aback when a dude answered the phone. Never had a guy answer a pussy hotline, UK or abroad...  :scare:
It's not that unusual!

Offline LLPunting

It's not that unusual!

Indeed, they've had an English man answering the phone, along with the Thai mamasans, going back years.
(Some of the reputable EE outfits also have had English men answering.)

Offline petermisc

Which means you are happy to condone those earning from a woman selling sex, which in turn suggests you have no thought or care of the situation they may or not be in or how it effects them, so long as you get what you pay for, and the agency get their cut all is good in the world.
Now you really are soap-boxing.  If you are using Soho, then you too are happy to condone those earning from a woman selling sex.  I gave up using that sleazy pimp- infested pit long ago, just like I long ago gave up using street walkers.

When you go to see a girl for the first time, how do you know what situation she is in?  You cannot know whether a girl is truly independent or not until you know her very well.  Until that time, you cannot know.  You have apparently seen Lithuanian and Hungarian women - the chances are very high that such girls are being controlled, and you seem happy to have accepted that risk when you first saw them.

To say that those who use an agency or Adultwork have no thought or care for the well-being of the girls is complete bollocks. They have empowered the girls, who can now work far more easily and safely than back in the bad old days when they were controlled by the phone box card cartels, pimp-controlled flats and brothels, and protection gangs.  God forbid that we should go back to those days.

There are plenty of archaic laws still on the books, that people break every day.  There is a good reason that the authorities turn a blind eye to the agencies, and that is because in most cases they are serving a useful purpose for the girls, as well as the punters.

I applaud your sentiments for not wanting to see girls who are being coerced, but the reality is that you are a fantasist.


Online Dino74

Hiya,
Just wondered if there was anymore info on this has anyone booked through olina’s recently?
I was mulling over a theeesome but I’m hesitant now for obvious reasons.

Offline luckypunt

its quite disturbing and scary to see the news about raid.

Is there a real legal problem punting other agencies like Diva , if the lady stays alone and doesnt have a shared accomodation.
and any risks of punting outcalls ? that way, is there a lesser chance of raids etc.

on that note , from this: External Link/Members Only
it appears that the maximum sentence if you are caught buying sex ( using the services of a prostitue who is subject to force) is a fine of 1000.  any thoughts about this people ?
« Last Edit: May 25, 2022, 09:06:46 pm by luckypunt »

Offline LLPunting

its quite disturbing and scary to see the news about raid.

Is there a real legal problem punting other agencies like Diva , if the lady stays alone and doesnt have a shared accomodation.
and any risks of punting outcalls ? that way, is there a lesser chance of raids etc.

on that note , from this: External Link/Members Only
it appears that the maximum sentence if you are caught buying sex ( using the services of a prostitue who is subject to force) is a fine of 1000.  any thoughts about this people ?

Is that what's stopped you punting this past 6 months and the previous 12?

Offline petermisc

its quite disturbing and scary to see the news about raid.

Is there a real legal problem punting other agencies like Diva , if the lady stays alone and doesnt have a shared accomodation.
and any risks of punting outcalls ? that way, is there a lesser chance of raids etc.

on that note , from this: External Link/Members Only
it appears that the maximum sentence if you are caught buying sex ( using the services of a prostitue who is subject to force) is a fine of 1000.  any thoughts about this people ?
Unless you have seen her before, how are you going to know in advance whether a girl is sharing accommodation or not?  However, even if she is sharing, it is only the person running the shared accommodation aka brothel that it is breaking the law - not the girls or the punters. The authorities have long turned a blind eye to sharing, unless they need to take action and don't have sufficient evidence to charge for something more serious (a bit like Al Capone was done for tax fraud).  After all, it is safer for the girls to be sharing, than working alone.

A long while ago (in the Polish heyday), I was once visiting an agency girl who shared with another.  In mid-visit, the police called.  We stayed quiet as a mouse in the bedroom, while the police interviewed the other girl.  Once they had established that she was safe and happy, and not being forced, they were soon on their way again. 

It is trafficking that is the big issue.  TBH, if you are worried about it, I think you are best off sticking with a reputable agency.  With indies, you never know whether she is being coerced or not until you get to know her very well.  Olina seem to be back in business, which I doubt would be the case if they were being done for trafficking, but if you are worried, there are other long-standing asian agencies using many of the same girls.

If a girl is working for multiple unconnected agencies, she is unlikely to have been trafficked by an agency (but not impossible that she has a "handler" behind the scenes).  My personal feeling is that trafficking is more likely at the cheaper end of the market.  There are a number of outfits offering outcalls for under £200 an hour in central London, that I would be decidedly concerned about, for example.

Outcalls come with their own problems.  After a couple of bad experiences, I will never again have an outcall to my home.  At least with an incall, if your senses tell you that something is wrong, you can turn on your heel.

Offline sHiNy

Is it safe to see girls from Olina again?

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I enquired about Olinas for today but none of the ladies I was interested in were available. I did find it a bit odd that a posh sounding Englishman was the one on the phone.



Offline sHiNy

I enquired about Olinas for today but none of the ladies I was interested in were available. I did find it a bit odd that a posh sounding Englishman was the one on the phone.

Oh that's normal, months before the raid happened i did see Anna but didn't get a chance to post a review and yh the guy was the one who answers the phone or sometimes a woman.

Offline bediscrete

I arranged a booking through Olina recently (first time using them) and yes the guy who answered when I called them sounded like a 'posh-ish' English bloke.
To add that I had a punt with Mimi. Will be a neg when I do the review. Particularly asked Olina who was available for DFK - but Mimi didn't kiss.
YMMV  of course.

Offline bootspunker

Is it safe to see girls from Olina again?

Not for your bank balance, no...

Offline inspetorbarros

I arranged a booking through Olina recently (first time using them) and yes the guy who answered when I called them sounded like a 'posh-ish' English bloke.
To add that I had a punt with Mimi. Will be a neg when I do the review. Particularly asked Olina who was available for DFK - but Mimi didn't kiss.
YMMV  of course.

yeah, I've booked Tracy and this chap picked up the call last week. Is he the male version of the mamasai? Should we say 'papasai'? 🧐
« Last Edit: July 01, 2022, 09:10:55 pm by inspetorbarros »

Offline Traveller58uk

Olina have always had a male and female receptionist. I guess it depends who is on shift.

Offline inspetorbarros

Olina have always had a male and female receptionist. I guess it depends who is on shift.

yep, I've heard the female too. Thick thai accent. Booked Nicky last year, One of those punts they ask you to call when you are by the door to be given the flat number, It took me ages to decode what she was trying to say: "frat eigh! fret eigh!" ... turns out it was "FLAT A"...  lol

Offline Johnybaby1

If I am not wrong I believed the English gentleman is the Thai receptionist husband and co own the website, don’t hold me on it I only been told by one of the girls long time ago.

Offline hult32

Is it safe to see girls from Olina again?

I was not aware of this thread and saw Anna through Olina’s last week.

Offline EasyRider21

its quite disturbing and scary to see the news about raid.

Is there a real legal problem punting other agencies like Diva , if the lady stays alone and doesnt have a shared accomodation.
and any risks of punting outcalls ? that way, is there a lesser chance of raids etc.

on that note , from this: External Link/Members Only
it appears that the maximum sentence if you are caught buying sex ( using the services of a prostitue who is subject to force) is a fine of 1000.  any thoughts about this people ?

I don't know the answer to that but don't you also get a criminal record? Some people have jobs here that require them to certify to their employer that they don't have a criminal background. These companies regularly perform what's called a Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) check on their employees so no point in lying about it.

If you are a lawyer, banker or work in any other highly regulated profession then it's not gonna be the 1,000 quid fine that will hurt you the most...
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Offline sHiNy

Olina did get raided a while ago and the girls are still active so i'm guessing they are not being forced and everything is ok.
I'll probably see Anna sometime next week.

Offline EasyRider21

Olina did get raided a while ago and the girls are still active so i'm guessing they are not being forced and everything is ok.
I'll probably see Anna sometime next week.

I partially agree with you. I have never seen ANY signs of coercion and the £150 per hour is sufficient to make a decent living in London once you do the math and factor in all sorts of extra costs they face (such as overpaying for the flat they rent).

It's not uncommon to see them take time off (think of Tracy recently or Anna a while back) and many of them have limitations around their work hours (Tracy only works 9am-5pm and only on workdays, Anna doesn't receive punters on Sunday after 6pm, etc.). I once saw Anna walking alone on the streets without being escorted by anyone. I have been declined a booking numerous times. Most of the girls live alone in their flats and rarely change addresses. Some of them are eager to please you while others just do a half-assed job and still remain on the website. The money is good enough to make a living in London and send some home too.

The typical signs of exploitation just aren't really there. The only unlawful thing you can throw at them is that some of the girls appear to share a flat.

All of this being said, the police wouldn't just do a raid without having some suspicion of illegal activity going on. A raid costs money, time and other resources so why would they do it unless there is a decent chance for prosecution? Would love to know what exactly they were after by doing the raid. The fact that they are still operating should give you some comfort but I'm still in wait and see mode. The only girl I'd care to see is Tracy and her new schedule doesn't really work for me anyway.

I'm also inclined to doubt that police cares about the punters. Has anyone ever seen a punter being prosecuted in a sex trafficking case? I would imagine they go for the big fish in the background instead of the clientele. Missing the handler but fining some punters £1,000 isn't exactly a success story from a policing perspective.
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Offline jono44

External Link/Members Only
is a great site to make you fully aware of where we actually are concerning the screwed up law relating to punting.

Particularly this strict offence (see below)of which most are unaware. So do watch for warning signs.  Knowledge is irrelevant.
Section 53A of the Sexual Offences Act 2003, inserted by Section 14 of the Policing and Crime Act 2009, creates a summary-only offence of paying for the sexual services of a prostitute subjected to force, etc

Had the girl involved when the police raided the Olina flat alleged she had been forced by a pimp against her will, the punter would have committed a criminal offence.

Do not want to put you off - just to suggest we all exercise viglience for signs of trafficing

Offline dirtykirti

I've booked at olinas since the raid.  hope it was a one off issue. 

there is an english guy who answers - as often as the oriental lady.  i prefer dealing with the guy - always straightforward, to the point and efficient.   

Offline PapaSmurf

im from liverpool but me bezzie mate was in london today and he visited this massage parlour. just as he was about to get started the bizzies raided the place and detained him for two hours. hes seriously shook up.in the end they let him go but they said that was the 4th raid that morning so BE CAREFUL gents. it looks like the parlours are quite risky at the momnet
I'm glad I'm a part time punter and only really mess with independent seasoned WG. I've always been dubious about brothels and parlours, and stories like this give me further pause.

Offline puntingpumping1920

I sleep very well at night, I know the women I meet these days are totally independent, no one is taking a cut of any money they are paid and I will not meet them unless I am sure of it.
 
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https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=352369.0
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Offline lillythesavage

 
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https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=352369.0

The troll is back  :D, No touting the agencies for you to do?  :unknown:

Offline puntingpumping1920

The troll is back  :D, No touting the agencies for you to do?  :unknown:

I don't tout Agencies

I have reported your comment regarding touting to the Mods and hopefully they act on it
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Offline lillythesavage

I don't tout Agencies

I have reported your comment regarding touting to the Mods and hopefully they act on it


Good for you, so you accept you are a troll  :D

Offline puntingpumping1920


Good for you, so you accept you are a troll  :D

If I was a troll I would be banned by now
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Offline magnetico

Please don't disrespect puntingpumping1920, he's one of the best UKP members.

Offline puntingpumping1920

Please don't disrespect puntingpumping1920, he's one of the best UKP members.

 :hi:
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Offline Liverpool

Please don't disrespect puntingpumping1920, he's one of the best UKP members.

 :lol:

He's one of UKP's best thin skinned members.



 
« Last Edit: August 18, 2022, 06:19:22 am by Liverpool »

Offline lillythesavage

Please don't disrespect puntingpumping1920, he's one of the best UKP members.

He is quite capable of disrespecting and trolling other members, but cries to the headmaster when he gets it back  :D

Respect is earned, being banned for threatening other members is hardly one of the best UKP members, to me he lost any credibility when he informed an agency of an AW profile, he cannot be polite to anyone who disagrees with him, or discuss the issue, just trolls them.

flashing the cash and posting payments made might impress some. The rest live in the real world.

You are welcome to carry on your respect, others can make their own mind up.  :hi:

Offline puntingpumping1920

Lily you're following me around on this forum getting mad about shit that has nothing to do with you
 
I know you like blokes with wigs but you're focussed on the wrong BBC  :lol:   
 
You need to be focussed on posting reviews 
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Offline puntingpumping1920

He is quite capable of disrespecting and trolling other members
 

Never disrespected you on this thread   

I exposed your trolling - 
 
I sleep very well at night, I know the women I meet these days are totally independent, no one is taking a cut of any money they are paid and I will not meet them unless I am sure of it.

 
That post you made above is all bollocks like most of the shit you post on this forum. 

The girl you reviewed four days ago is not totally independent and someone is taking a cut from the fee you gave her

(https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=352369.0)

Not sure why you’re talking behalf other people (Worry about your lack of contribution on this site) 
cries to the headmaster when he gets it back  :D
 

You said I was touting agencies which is against the forum rules.
 
The mods/ admin should be aware if you truly believe that
 
Threatening other members is hardly one of the best UKP members

 
That guy is a sucker 
 
I only gave him the opportunity to meet me 
 
I wouldn't ask to meet you because you might consider that flirting :scare:
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Offline puntingpumping1920

he informed an agency of an AW profile

 
I never informed/ snitched/ grassed on Channel

I spoke about the authenticity of her A/W page with Bella. She seemed to know about her A/W page already (It wasn't a big deal). 
 
Lets get Head1/ Admin/ Mods involved in this
 
We can bet £5K. 
 
The loser has to donate £5K to the forum and If the loser doesn't pay he gets BANNED   
 
I will need to show proof by screenshots that the agency owner knew about her A/W profile and that I never grassed on her to get her in trouble.

If I can show proof by Monday you will have to donate £5K to this forum. 

If I don’t show proof on Monday then I will have to donate £5K to this forum.
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Offline Kev40ish

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I never informed/ snitched/ grassed on Channel

I spoke about the authenticity of her A/W page with Bella. She seemed to know about her A/W page already (It wasn't a big deal). 
 
Lets get Head1/ Admin/ Mods involved in this
 
We can bet £5K. 
 
The loser has to donate £5K to the forum and If the loser doesn't pay he gets BANNED   
 
I will need to show proof by screenshots that the agency owner knew about her A/W profile and that I never grassed on her to get her in trouble.

If I can show proof by Monday you will have to donate £5K to this forum. 

If I don’t show proof on Monday then I will have to donate £5K to this forum.

How about I get involved and just tell you both to ignore each other  :unknown: :unknown:

Offline puntingpumping1920

How about I get involved and just tell you both to ignore each other  :unknown: :unknown:

 
He is spreading lies that I'm touting agencies and I snitched/ informed an agent about escort's A/W profile.
 
If I can show proof from the agency owner that I didn't snitch on anyone
 
Why can't he get punished for trolling
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Offline LLPunting


 
He is spreading lies that I'm touting agencies and I snitched/ informed an agent about escort's A/W profile.
 
If I can show proof from the agency owner that I didn't snitch on anyone
 
Why can't he get punished for trolling

Actually he is proposing one belief and you are your own.  He said / he said.
Funny though how you like to make points by throwing your "big balls" around, betting £5k and swinging your BBC with or without a wig on.  Your m.o. is all about machismo, takes a certain kind of chip and a whole bunch of insecurity.  The person most suspect here is you.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2022, 12:44:25 am by LLPunting »

Offline scutty brown


 
He is spreading lies that I'm touting agencies and I snitched/ informed an agent about escort's A/W profile.
 
If I can show proof from the agency owner that I didn't snitch on anyone
 
Why can't he get punished for trolling

Is this one of the agencies you're scared of reviewing in case they cut off the girl supply?
Personally I've long thought your reviews read like touting hagiographies.

Offline scutty brown

Actually he is proposing one belief and you are your own.  He said / he said.
Funny though how you like to make points by throwing your "big balls" around, betting £5k and swinging your BBC with or without a wig on.  Your m.o. is all about machismo, takes a certain kind of chip and a whole bunch of insecurity.  The person most suspect here is you.

Surely he'd have a merkin not a wig?

Offline LLPunting

Surely he'd have a merkin not a wig?

I thought they used merkins to hide lady parts?  Oh wait, I see what you're saying.

Offline Liverpool

Is this one of the agencies you're scared of reviewing in case they cut off the girl supply?
Personally I've long thought your reviews read like touting hagiographies.

Remember, you can only refer to the agencies he uses by their initials in case they break that code.
Scutty you meany, your actions mean that PP1920 has to now pay over the odds for his punts. Oh wait a minute....he already does.

Offline petermisc

I never informed/ snitched/ grassed on Channel
I spoke about the authenticity of her A/W page with Bella. She seemed to know about her A/W page already (It wasn't a big deal). 

You seem to have changed your story since:
That can't be real 
I'm going to ask KL later today to confirm that profile
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I spoke to KL
They never confirmed or denied that’s her profile
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I asked them to confirm that’s her profile which isn't a big deal
where you admit to raising that she had an AW profile with significantly lower rates to the agency.  Whether they already knew about it or not is irrelevant, the point is that you grassed on the girl to the agency.  And I note that the agency seem to have dropped her, as she is no longer in their gallery.

If her London A/W rate is £300 an hour then paying £500 via an agency is not too bad
That response really doesn't ring true.   If you felt her rates were fair, why did you need to dob on her to the agency?

I will need to show proof by screenshots that the agency owner knew about her A/W profile and that I never grassed on her to get her in trouble.
I was wondering how on earth you were going to achieve this, but then I read this:
Good agency owners become your friends.
So you admit to being on friendly terms with the agency owner, whose girls you are reviewing.  And you are going to get your friend to provide you with the proof you need.  Talk about tainted evidence.

Offline puntingpumping1920

Is this one of the agencies you're scared of reviewing in case they cut off the girl supply?
Personally I've long thought your reviews read like touting hagiographies.
 
 
You fuck cheap trafficked women then pretend to care for trafficked girls
 
« Last Edit: August 19, 2022, 09:30:42 pm by puntingpumping1920 »
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Offline puntingpumping1920

Quote
Good agency owners become your friends.

 
That quote looks crazy when taken out of context 
 
Some smaller High end agencies that I've used provide more of a intimate relationship 
 
Bigger agencies treat me like a number
 
@Momodan38 will agree with that statement
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Offline scutty brown

 
 
You fuck cheap trafficked women then pretend to care for trafficked girls

What a load of bollocks.
Whereas you fuck expensive trafficked women? What is it with you, constantly trying to justify yourself by boasting about how much you've paid?? Makes you look like a self-deluded fool. Be careful: believing your own BS can affect your mental health

Offline puntingpumping1920

What a load of bollocks.
Whereas you fuck expensive trafficked women? What is it with you, constantly trying to justify yourself by boasting about how much you've paid?? Makes you look like a self-deluded fool. Be careful: believing your own BS can affect your mental health
 
 
You're a sick, depraved man
 
Turn yourself in to the police
 
You helplessly react to your urges by sexually exploiting women  :vomit:
 
Have you no shame
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