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Offline cmspunk

HI Guys

Whats the best site(s) to get kamagra jellies?
Be good to see what everyone uses these days.

Cheers lads....

Offline Alanroy

Presumably with a bit of difficulty, I had no idea what it is but googled and seems to be 'illegal'... dark web?

Offline scutty brown

Illegal in that there's no UK or European product licence. As they were stocking in the UK they were busting the law. Wouldn't surprise me if the Medicines Control Agency got them busted.
It looks like the makers of Kamagra have never done the clinical trials required to prove their formulation of Sildenafil is safe

Offline Moby Dick

Had a sachet at a party once.
Worked, but became very thirsty with a headache. Bit of a hangover feeling the next day

Offline cmspunk

So where you guys get your enablers from?

Offline tesla

So where you guys get your enablers from?

Asda, Boots both do over the counter Ed meds after a short interview

Offline catweazle

Asda, Boots both do over the counter Ed meds after a short interview

Oh, if only there was an online forum where like-minded guys could discuss such things......oh hang on a moment.......

Offline DastardlyDick

Dr Fox is a reliable online supplier of various ED remedies.

Offline winkywanky

Is Kamagra really much different from Viagra?

Viagra is now available over the counter (even in supermarkets), no prescription or pharmacist-test required AFAIK.

Online dgh7622

Dr Fox online for all ED brands,delivered to post office of your choice to save trouble at your address.
Competitive price and fast service   

Offline george r

when the genuine stuff is so cheap now I cant see why people would buy/use this which could contain who knows what ?  :thumbsdown:

Offline scutty brown

Is Kamagra really much different from Viagra?

Viagra is now available over the counter (even in supermarkets), no prescription or pharmacist-test required AFAIK.

Kamagra is just another generic version of Sildenafil, i.e. same active chemical as Viagra.
Whats different is that the Indian company who makes it have created a range of alternative formulations such as chewable jelly sachets, suckable "Polo" mints and a few others. However they've never bothered to go through the legal hoops, tests and registrations to allow those to be legally sold in Europe. Anyone stocking or selling Kamagra in the UK is breaking the law, and as imports are illegal there is no regulated supply route so there is a risk of fraud and fakery

Zidane18

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Kamagra is just another generic version of Sildenafil, i.e. same active chemical as Viagra.
Whats different is that the Indian company who makes it have created a range of alternative formulations such as chewable jelly sachets, suckable "Polo" mints and a few others. However they've never bothered to go through the legal hoops, tests and registrations to allow those to be legally sold in Europe. Anyone stocking or selling Kamagra in the UK is breaking the law, and as imports are illegal there is no regulated supply route so there is a risk of fraud and fakery

I was in turkey and you could see them at many shop counters


Offline scutty brown

I was in turkey and you could see them at many shop counters

Turkey isn't part of the EU so doesn't have the same medicines controls

Offline winkywanky

Kamagra is just another generic version of Sildenafil, i.e. same active chemical as Viagra.
Whats different is that the Indian company who makes it have created a range of alternative formulations such as chewable jelly sachets, suckable "Polo" mints and a few others. However they've never bothered to go through the legal hoops, tests and registrations to allow those to be legally sold in Europe. Anyone stocking or selling Kamagra in the UK is breaking the law, and as imports are illegal there is no regulated supply route so there is a risk of fraud and fakery


...all the more reason to buy Viagra from your local supermarket, and wink at the pretty young thing on the checkout as you go through  :D

Offline winkywanky

I was in turkey and you could see them at many shop counters


Probably just one of very many dodgy things you could buy in Turkey.

Offline jeanphillipe


Probably just one of very many dodgy things you could buy in Turkey.

did you know you cant get turkey in Turkey ?

ontopic, some people reckon the jelly version of kamagra acts faster.

Offline cmspunk

You cant get jellies from Asda/Boots/Dr Fox etc.....hence the reason for my post.....

Offline winkywanky

AFAIK Viagra is effectively the same thing, hence my post  :D

I can understand that a jelly may be absorbed slightly more quickly, but then just take a tablet 15mins earlier?

Offline bonapati

You cant get jellies from Asda/Boots/Dr Fox etc.....hence the reason for my post.....

While I'm gagging to give you the answer to your question - 2 years without a single review is not generous enough to share such information with YOU.

Stevensmiles

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If it’s faster absorption into your system your after. Stick a viagra tab up your arse.

I’ve no idea if this works of course but quite a lot of pain relief tabs can work better this way.

As has been said. It’s so easy to get this kind of product over the counter nowadays I don’t know why anyone would bother with online stuff.

Just as an aside if anybody wants to know.
If your of that age where you don’t have to pay prescription charges. Have a chat with your GP.
You’ll get it for nothing.

Offline catweazle

If it’s faster absorption into your system your after. Stick a viagra tab up your arse.

I’ve no idea if this works of course but quite a lot of pain relief tabs can work better this way.

As has been said. It’s so easy to get this kind of product over the counter nowadays I don’t know why anyone would bother with online stuff.

Just as an aside if anybody wants to know.
If your of that age where you don’t have to pay prescription charges. Have a chat with your GP.
You’ll get it for nothing.

I think the NHS scrip will limit you to 4 a month

Offline ediguy

My mate no really he is a mate haha and he gets 3 boxes a month so 12 tabs in total. He just sells them on to mates or people online etc

Offline Strokemeplease

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My mate no really he is a mate haha and he gets 3 boxes a month so 12 tabs in total.

Is he registered with three different GPs ? Four tablets every four weeks is what I get on the NHS.

Offline Marmalade

Sildigra comes in a chewable sildenafil (generic viagra) and quite tasty, produced by RSM Enterprises, a massive Indian company that produces stuff to a lot of international standards. Now if you look at the NHS price of drugs and then look at Doctored Fox etc, you’ll see Doctored Fox charges roughly double the going rate. The viagra is still cheap but look at spedra and you’re talking more serious money. That’s a massive UK market for ED meds. No way they want to bring in a law to allow to let you to buy it at normal prices.

Yes, of course you have to be sure that you are getting it from a decent supply chain if you do buy from abroad. Same for Argentina that does a similar range and you can buy from the Argentinian equivalent of a Boots.

A reason you might want the chewable stuff is that if you have a sensitive stomach it tends not to fuck you up so much. Like dispersible aspirin, only it’s flavoured and tastes nicer than aspirin. So you can chew it and keep it under your tongue for a few minutes and it works quicker as it’s absorbed quicker that way and no stomach upset.

Find your own safety zone etc ...

Offline Waterhouse

Sildigra comes in a chewable sildenafil (generic viagra) and quite tasty, produced by RSM Enterprises, a massive Indian company that produces stuff to a lot of international standards. Now if you look at the NHS price of drugs and then look at Doctored Fox etc, you’ll see Doctored Fox charges roughly double the going rate. The viagra is still cheap but look at spedra and you’re talking more serious money. That’s a massive UK market for ED meds. No way they want to bring in a law to allow to let you to buy it at normal prices.

Yes, of course you have to be sure that you are getting it from a decent supply chain if you do buy from abroad. Same for Argentina that does a similar range and you can buy from the Argentinian equivalent of a Boots.

A reason you might want the chewable stuff is that if you have a sensitive stomach it tends not to fuck you up so much. Like dispersible aspirin, only it’s flavoured and tastes nicer than aspirin. So you can chew it and keep it under your tongue for a few minutes and it works quicker as it’s absorbed quicker that way and no stomach upset.

Find your own safety zone etc ...

Would you say Spedra (avanafil) better/more effective than Viagra (sildenafil)?  I tried viagra (100mg) once and it made little difference despite lot's of folk saying it makes you a lot harder than Cialis... possibly may even have been detrimental, I don't know. 

How does avanafil compare in practice with/against tadalafil?

Cheers.

Offline GreyDave

 :hi:  Marmalades comment find your own safty zone ... is spot on

I used Kamagra 100mg gels to start  :scare: I had pounding heart and the mother of indigestion and headache attacks for 2 days :scare: ...Ok I used it at a party and had a bloody good time getting up in about 15 mins after the 1st pop and doing 3 girls twice :yahoo: after wards I lowered my dose ie half packet...Fast forward 8 years or so and that behaviour is DREAMLAND now :( I take a small bit of tadafil maybe 3-5mgs morning of punt (I get the bigger pills and split them ) and 25mg of sildenafil about 2hrs before on and empty tum I avoid drinking any alchool ...Yep many on her say its :scare: :crazy: :scare: wacko to mix as it lowerers heart rate ...I find the tadafil gives a sort of savoly lob on erection over 48 hrs once in system and the 25mg (ive done higher and low) of Sildenafil that ironbar shag the arse off her erection...Now danger is multi as OH says I dont have ED per say but Erectile Disapointment when I take stuff she knows and shags are brill this has put paid to punt on several occasions , next I am knackered next day soho day trips now are a rare thing and the 1/2 hour indy girl my stock punt :thumbsup: " New doors on slum houses" is a good phrase as the rest of me a 58year old out of shape grey git is out of it.

It has taken a while to get the balance right and timin for me it will be something many have done to but once you get that balance right the control over how you can shag is Great :cool: :cool:

Offline ediguy

Is he registered with three different GPs ? Four tablets every four weeks is what I get on the NHS.

No its the same Dr's it use to be 4 a month but since the lat few months he gets 3 boxes. Its like a Viagra factory in his house but he seems to do well selling them.

Offline scutty brown

:hi:  Marmalades comment find your own safty zone ... is spot on

I used Kamagra 100mg gels to start  :scare: I had pounding heart and the mother of indigestion and headache attacks for 2 days :scare: ...Ok I used it at a party and had a bloody good time getting up in about 15 mins after the 1st pop and doing 3 girls twice :yahoo: after wards I lowered my dose ie half packet...Fast forward 8 years or so and that behaviour is DREAMLAND now :( I take a small bit of tadafil maybe 3-5mgs morning of punt (I get the bigger pills and split them ) and 25mg of sildenafil about 2hrs before on and empty tum I avoid drinking any alchool ...Yep many on her say its :scare: :crazy: :scare: wacko to mix as it lowerers heart rate ...I find the tadafil gives a sort of savoly lob on erection over 48 hrs once in system and the 25mg (ive done higher and low) of Sildenafil that ironbar shag the arse off her erection...Now danger is multi as OH says I dont have ED per say but Erectile Disapointment when I take stuff she knows and shags are brill this has put paid to punt on several occasions , next I am knackered next day soho day trips now are a rare thing and the 1/2 hour indy girl my stock punt :thumbsup: " New doors on slum houses" is a good phrase as the rest of me a 58year old out of shape grey git is out of it.

It has taken a while to get the balance right and timin for me it will be something many have done to but once you get that balance right the control over how you can shag is Great :cool: :cool:

You're playing dangerous games there, you shouldn't mix them

Offline Marmalade

Would you say Spedra (avanafil) better/more effective than Viagra (sildenafil)?  I tried viagra (100mg) once and it made little difference despite lot's of folk saying it makes you a lot harder than Cialis... possibly may even have been detrimental, I don't know. 

How does avanafil compare in practice with/against tadalafil?

Cheers.

Yes a lot of people do say that and that’s their experience. Viagra is the oldest and tried and tested.

Spedra is very expensive and without trawling through the studies, from memory and practical I’d say the advantage is that it’s very quick with minimal side effects. Taken with or without food.

Tadalafil is of course the long acting one and in the middle or lower middle as far as price.

These drugs tend to work differently for different people though. If you have an underlying condition in can make a big difference and some may work better than others for you. The playing-around-thing of course is a bigger real concern if you’re old and have blood pressure or heart issues.

A lot of people are also interested in the herbal and other types of supplements. I’ll try to post a summary but the links to the studies won’t work (What’s the best site to post a pdf? e.g. a non-permanent or safe one so as not to piss off copyright holders too much?). You can find an excellent run-down with grading of the evidence and effects on ConsumerLab.com or there’s a briefer and slightly less thorough IMO one on Examine.com which is free. Or do it the hard way and enter ‘ncbi’ or similar after your google search though need to know how to get past the paywall on many of the medical papers.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2018, 06:33:45 pm by Marmalade »

Offline waynekerr600

Turkey isn't part of the EU so doesn't have the same medicines controls

Is that why so many voted for Brexit  :D

Offline waynekerr600

No its the same Dr's it use to be 4 a month but since the lat few months he gets 3 boxes. Its like a Viagra factory in his house but he seems to do well selling them.

Not worth the risk IMHO. If someone has a bad reaction stroke or heart attack it will come back on him. All known side effects.

The private retail price of genetic sildenafil is less than £5 for 24.

Rather than bother with online guys should see their GP and ask for a 3 month private prescription.


Offline Marmalade

I've slimmed it down a bit. Maybe someone could be bothered posting it to the wiki or whatever or bookmark it if it's of interest to you.

You can also go to Examine.com and search "erections" and then click on the ingredient and it takes you to the studies and rates the strength of the effect (listed as minor by examine.com in all cases where an effect is demonstrated though) and the strength of the studies.


On the herbal and OTC supplements, here you go…

 • Principal Proposed Natural Treatments

Carnitine; Ginseng; L-Arginine
Other Proposed Natural Treatments
Ashwagandha; Avena sativa; Butea superba; Catuaba; Cordyceps; Damiana;
 Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA); Diindolylmethane (DIM); Eleutherococcus; Horny Goat Weed; Ginkgo; L-citrulline; Maca ( Lepidium meyenii) ; Macuna pruriens; Melatonin;
 Molybdenum; Pine Bark Extract and L-Arginine; Muira Puama (Potency Wood); Polypodium vulgare; Pomegranate; Pygeum; Rhodiola rosea; Saw Palmetto; Schisandra; Suma;

• Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine
Tribulus; Velvet Antler; Zinc

• Herbs and Supplements to Use Only With Caution
Licorice and Soy can reduce testosterone; Yohimbe has many problem drug interactions and the yohimbe content in the herbal product can be unpredictable.

If you are on blood pressure drugs or statins, both of these (some more than others) can mess up your wood. As there’s many varieties of them it’s maybe better to ask your doctor to switch them to different ones if you think they are the cause.

Back to OTCs and herbals, I’ll just list a few that are readily available legally and from the usual suppliers. Some supplements companies have a better rep than others, or better rep on specific products, which is also something worth looking into. I wouldn't rush to buy from Holland & Barrett for instance.


Korean Red Ginseng
Two double-blind, placebo-controlled trials, involving a total of about 135 people, have found evidence that Korean red ginseng may improve erectile function.
      In the better of the two trials, 45 participants received either placebo or Korean red ginseng at a dose of 900 mg 3 times daily for 8 weeks. After a 1-week period of no treatment, the two groups were switched. The results indicate that while using Korean red ginseng men experienced significantly better sexual function than while they were taking placebo.
      In an analysis combining the results of 6 controlled trials, researchers found some evidence for the benefits of Korean red ginseng. However, the small size and generally low quality of the studies left some doubt about this conclusion.

(There are several very different types of Ginseng, all with different properties. They also vary hugely on things like how well they are absorbed and the amounts of active ingredient.)

L-Arginine
Nitric oxide (NO) plays a role in the development of an erection. Drugs like Viagra increase the body's sensitivity to the natural rise in NO that occurs with sexual stimulation. A simpler approach might be to raise NO levels, and one way to accomplish this involves use of the amino acid L-arginine. Oral arginine supplements may increase nitric oxide levels in the penis and elsewhere. Based on this, L-arginine has been advertised as "natural Viagra." However, there is as yet little evidence that it works. Drugs based on raising nitric oxide levels in the penis have not worked out for pharmaceutical developers; the body seems to simply adjust to the higher levels and maintain the same level of response.

The main support for the use of arginine in erectile dysfunction comes from a small double-blind trial in which 50 men with erectile dysfunction received either 5g of L-arginine or placebo daily for 6 weeks. More men in the treated group experienced improvement in sexual performance than in the placebo group.

A double-blind crossover study of 32 men found no benefit with 1,500 mg of arginine given daily for 17days; the much smaller dose and shorter course of treatment may explain the discrepancy between these two trials.

L-arginine has also been evaluated in combination with other products. For example, a double-blind, placebo-controlled trial of 45 men found that one- time use of L-arginine plus the drug yohimbine (made from the herb yohimbe) 1-2 hours before intercourse improved erectile function, especially in those with only moderate erectile dysfunction scores. Arginine and yohimbine were both taken at a dose of 6g.
Note: yohimbe involves a number of safety risks.

Researchers have also studied a formulation of L- arginine and pine bark extract (pycnogenol). In a randomized study involving 124 men with moderate erectile dysfunction, those that were in the treatment group had an improvement in their symptoms.

L-citrulline converts to L-arginine in the body so can be considered comparable.

Carnitine
In a 6-month, double-blind trial of 120 men, average age 66. Carnitine (propionyl-l-carnitine (LPC) 2g a day plus acetyl-l-carnitine (ALCAR) 2g day and testosterone (testosterone undecanoate 160 mg/day) were separately compared to placebo.

The results indicated that both carnitine and testosterone improve erectile function; however, while testosterone significantly increased prostate volume, carnitine did not.

Another double-blind, placebo-controlled study found that propionyl-l-carnitine at 2 g/day enhanced the effectiveness of sildenafil (Viagra) in 40 men with diabetes who had previously failed to respond to sildenafil on at least eight occasions.

In another double-blind study, a combination of the propionyl and acetyl forms of carnitine enhanced the effectiveness of Viagra in men who suffered from erectile dysfunction caused by prostate surgery.


Other Treatments
A proprietary combination therapy containing arginine along with Ginkgo biloba, ginseng, and vitamins and minerals has shown some promise in an unpublished study.

A double-blind, placebo-controlled study enrolled 40 men with difficulty achieving or maintaining an erection who also had low measured levels of DHEA. The results showed that DHEA at a dose of 50 mg daily improved sexual performance; however, the authors failed to provide a statistical analysis of the results, making the meaningfulness of this study impossible to determine.

Severe zinc deficiency is known to negatively affect sexual function. Since marginal zinc deficiency is relatively common, it is logical to suppose that supplementation with zinc may be helpful for some men. However, this hypothesis has only been studied in men receiving kidney dialysis.  (Careful with zinc as anything over the standard dose of 40mg a day is thought to be toxic.)

Weak evidence hints at potential benefit with pomegranate juice, ands also melatonin.

Based on exceedingly preliminary evidence, the herb maca, has been advertised as "herbal Viagra." In one study in rats, use of maca enhanced male sexual function. There is one published human trial as well. In this small, 12-week, double-placebo-controlled study, use of maca at 1,500 mg or 3,000mg increased male libido. While this was an interesting finding, the study did not report benefits in male sexual function — just in desire. Since loss of sexual function is a more common problem in men than loss of sexual desire, these results do not justify the herbal Viagra claim. Contrary to some reports, maca does not appear to affect testosterone levels. (It also tastes pretty awful in my opinion, in ‘shakes’ as if often recommended, or on food; but as viagra gives you wood without the desire, especially when it’s some Romanian skank, it might be of interest to some people).

There’s many others that are supposed to help but little or no evidence. This doesn’t mean they don’t just that there’s no proof, or in some cases fairly strong evidence that they don’t. Ashwagandha, for instance, strongly reduces anxiety. It also has been known mildly to reduce blood pressure. Lowest effective dose is 300-500mg, optimal dose is 2,000mg three times a day. Can make you a wee bit sleepy mind. It’s an adaptogen, as is Rhodiola Rosea, so ‘adapts’ by balancing hormones, managing your stress and adapting to what the body needs depending on the need in the moment. Some bodies anyway…

Ginkgo is promoted as having dramatic results, especially if your wood is being fucked up by antidepressants (try to get off the antidepressants unless it’s an emergency, they are basically shit candy). Unfortunately when double-blind, placebo-controlled studies have been performed it appeared that the power of suggestion worked better than Ginkgo or placebo.

A small study involving 21 men with erectile dysfunction found that those who took pine bark extract (120 mg/day for 3 months) experienced an improvement in their symptoms compared to placebo. Pycnogenol is a patented formula of one bark extract.

---------------------------------------------------------------- Happy wooding ...

Offline Waterhouse

Very informative and useful.... Thanks Marmalade  :thumbsup: