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Offline Jokerinpack

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So this is the new name for Graces place in Hayes. I’m amazed that she tells me she was shown my review by one of us on here and that this led her to close Honey Cottage lol. Because of me?! Anyways, plenty of fish in the water so not bothered but she tells me a punter showed her a screenshot of my review and this led her to banish me. I always thought that this was our site to share etc. But either Grace has an account here or some idiot decided to curry favour with her by showing her what we say. Whoever it is, you’re an absolute bell-end. We all use this site in confidence to make sure we get the best outcome when spending our dough. Let’s not be stupid and tell the other side who we are and what we’ve  said!

Offline Jonestown

Is the inference that it was your review that prompted the raid that got it closed down ?

Offline scutty brown

You've posted 17 reviews, of which two are positive.
 Maybe she banned you simply because she saw that, saw your review and thought "fuck that, he visits again, he'll give another negative..."

What you have to remember is that this forum is read by girls, by non-members, and even by members who have a different rationale to most of us. Its clear there is a cadre of members who delight in informing girls of negatives: in some case out of spite, in other cases in an attempt to undermine the forum. That's why its important to not leaves any clues to your ID when reviewing - and you left enough to do that

Offline Jokerinpack

I’ve had quite a number of favourable punts but most of those are well reported by others here. We learn most from the negative reviews which is why my figures skew towards those, to share what others might wish to know. I’ve been many times to that place with positive experiences but I simply haven’t the time to report just to confirm what many of you know when a lady is good. I get that my identity might be easily identified because of the info I shared and that is a learning curve for me. I was trying to add info for context otherwise I think it’s difficult to explain why a negative was given. Happy to take pointers from all of you.

Offline Jokerinpack

Is the inference that it was your review that prompted the raid that got it closed down ?

No I wasn’t inferring that. I didn’t know anything about a raid so it’s all news to me?!

Offline Jonestown

No I wasn’t inferring that. I didn’t know anything about a raid so it’s all news to me?!

I thought I read on here that it was closed following a raid and Grace subsequently opened another venue near by, maybe I got the raid bit wrong, but reading your review I really can't see why anything that you wrote would be a reason for her closing the place.

Offline Jokerinpack

I thought I read on here that it was closed following a raid and Grace subsequently opened another venue near by, maybe I got the raid bit wrong, but reading your review I really can't see why anything that you wrote would be a reason for her closing the place.

Agree. I think a raid might have taken place a while before my review but her shutting down one name to start another in the same place is hardly down to me alone. Lots of negative reviews here on her antics and I think she’s looking to blame someone for her own lack of honesty. I expect that from her but it’s a shame someone on here would show her what’s been said. That is simply against what we are doing here.

Offline Jokerinpack

You've posted 17 reviews, of which two are positive.
 Maybe she banned you simply because she saw that, saw your review and thought "fuck that, he visits again, he'll give another negative..."

What you have to remember is that this forum is read by girls, by non-members, and even by members who have a different rationale to most of us. Its clear there is a cadre of members who delight in informing girls of negatives: in some case out of spite, in other cases in an attempt to undermine the forum. That's why its important to not leaves any clues to your ID when reviewing - and you left enough to do that

Just checked and I have 8 negative, 4 neutral and the rest positive? Not sure how you’re reading the figures mate?!

Offline scutty brown

Just checked and I have 8 negative, 4 neutral and the rest positive? Not sure how you’re reading the figures mate?!

Typo
you've got 14 reviews (not 17), just two positive
still pretty grim and I can understand her not wanting you around

Offline king tarzan

From what I heard from my friend

King Tarzan
Matrix
Pumps
Are dreaded
Are not favourable


And elsewhere what I've read about myself is just nonsense laughable...and few of the agencies are so fucken damn rude to me..

I just carry on regardless...

The sight is obviously well known..

For escorts it can be bread spread with gold and also it can be mouldy bread spread with shit..

Banned reason: Misogynist who gets free bookings from agencies for pos reviews.
Banned by: daviemac

Offline sparkus

Not sure of the whys and wherefores of this situation and perhaps the facts are not connected, but I've heard from multiple massage shop SPs that, yes, men do show them reviews of this site in a bid to impress them  :dash:

Why not show up at theirs with a bunch of flowers and a box of Milk Tray next time as well, twat.

Online LLPunting

Not sure of the whys and wherefores of this situation and perhaps the facts are not connected, but I've heard from multiple massage shop SPs that, yes, men do show them reviews of this site in a bid to impress them  :dash:

Why not show up at theirs with a bunch of flowers and a box of Milk Tray next time as well, twat.

Could you clarify, do you mean that punters are showing their own reviews on UKP of other SPs to try to influence girls they've not yet been serviced by?
Or showing what's been said about the girl they're just meeting and possibly have yet to try or have yet to experience the same reported services in an effort to obtain the same?

Offline CheeseBoard

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So this is the new name for Graces place in Hayes. I’m amazed that she tells me she was shown my review by one of us on here and that this led her to close Honey Cottage lol. Because of me?! Anyways, plenty of fish in the water so not bothered but she tells me a punter showed her a screenshot of my review and this led her to banish me. I always thought that this was our site to share etc. But either Grace has an account here or some idiot decided to curry favour with her by showing her what we say. Whoever it is, you’re an absolute bell-end. We all use this site in confidence to make sure we get the best outcome when spending our dough. Let’s not be stupid and tell the other side who we are and what we’ve  said!

How does she know who you are on here?  I see two possible ways...  Only person who could have told her who you are is yourself,  or you gave away who you are in your reviews (I haven't read them).  If it's the latter, then shouldnt you have said you have no idea what she is talking about?  :unknown:

Offline sparkus

Could you clarify, do you mean that punters are showing their own reviews on UKP of other SPs to try to influence girls they've not yet been serviced by?
Or showing what's been said about the girl they're just meeting and possibly have yet to try or have yet to experience the same reported services in an effort to obtain the same?

No, that SPs have told me different versions of the following (paraphrasing):

"Did you know there's a review of you on the internet by some men? They rate your services and comment on your body/skills."
"Here, I'll show you on my phone,"
"Oh no, I'm not one of them, I'm not a member of the site, I just read it and am showing you so you can be aware of these bad customers who say things like that,"

Offline bhudda

No, that SPs have told me different versions of the following (paraphrasing):

"Did you know there's a review of you on the internet by some men? They rate your services and comment on your body/skills."
"Here, I'll show you on my phone,"
"Oh no, I'm not one of them, I'm not a member of the site, I just read it and am showing you so you can be aware of these bad customers who say things like that,"


My guess is that cunts who do that are really hinting to the lass that she better do whatever he wants or they will get a bad review. They think they are being subtle.

Offline sparkus

My guess is that cunts who do that are really hinting to the lass that she better do whatever he wants or they will get a bad review. They think they are being subtle.

Maybe, though I'm guessing there's a range of motivations.

One (who refers to UKP as "that site") told me that the owner of a neighbouring newsagents booked her over the phone and she entered the room stunned and awkward to see him, before he rubbed his hands together and said "OK, I want you to do all those dirty things I read about you on the internet!" - I mean that we can't help with  :sarcastic:

Offline bhudda

Maybe, though I'm guessing there's a range of motivations.

One (who refers to UKP as "that site") told me that the owner of a neighbouring newsagents booked her over the phone and she entered the room stunned and awkward to see him, before he rubbed his hands together and said "OK, I want you to do all those dirty things I read about you on the internet!" - I mean that we can't help with  :sarcastic:

Well i hope he wrote a review

Offline Jonestown

Is it possible that anyone involved in any of the sides of the commercial sex world does not know about UKP ?

Grace was one of the shop owners who were in the habit of pumping out unsolicited text messages about her latest and hottest find, so I'd find it hard to believe that she is such a digital wallflower she has not been aware of UKP herself.

Offline Jokerinpack

How does she know who you are on here?  I see two possible ways...  Only person who could have told her who you are is yourself,  or you gave away who you are in your reviews (I haven't read them).  If it's the latter, then shouldnt you have said you have no idea what she is talking about?  :unknown:

I didn’t reveal who I was?! The point of my comment is that she was shown a review from which she recognised it was me given the date and circumstances. Now it’s either that she herself is on here or one of the members has shown her for whatever reason. Perhaps to gain favour. I can understand that on the one hand I tried to let you all know the circumstances of the meet to add some detail etc. But that has led her to recognise who I am from it. As I say, I don’t really care about her in the least, but IF one of the members here has shown her, then it’s not in our best interests.

Offline petermisc

Agreed that members should not be showing SPs reviews.  But I would take it as given that any SP who has been in business for a month or two would know about this site, and would be monitoring for reviews, particularly if business started to drop off.  This site is not exactly difficult to find, is it?  Thinking that experienced SPs don't know about this site is a bit like thinking hoteliers don't know about TripAdvisor.  When you write a review, you should expect that the SP will read it.  If you are foolish enough to make it explicit enough that the SP can identify you, then that is your fault.

Offline Hobbit

I didn’t reveal who I was?! The point of my comment is that she was shown a review from which she recognised it was me given the date and circumstances. Now it’s either that she herself is on here or one of the members has shown her for whatever reason. Perhaps to gain favour. I can understand that on the one hand I tried to let you all know the circumstances of the meet to add some detail etc. But that has led her to recognise who I am from it. As I say, I don’t really care about her in the least, but IF one of the members here has shown her, then it’s not in our best interests.

When writing reviews you shouldn't leave any information which could reveal your identity. It is fine not to be completely accurate as long as you are not lying about services provided or the description of the girl et cetera.

You need to realise quickly that in this world, especially on this site there are quite a few Whiteknight cunts and they would do anything to impress hookers in hope that they will have their children.

Offline elnukky

positive
still pretty grim and I can understand her not wanting you around

It is not understandable. Do you expect to be banned from Travelodge after leaving a negative review? These SERVICE providers need to understand that if they give a bad service then they are likely to receive a less than favorable review. Unless the punter was particularly difficult, abusive, rude, or otherwise, there is no grounds for a ban.

As for anyone showing the reviews from this site in order to curry favour   :thumbsdown: :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash:  :unknown:

Offline Hobbit

It is not understandable. Do you expect to be banned from Travelodge after leaving a negative review? These SERVICE providers need to understand that if they give a bad service then they are likely to receive a less than favorable review. Unless the punter was particularly difficult, abusive, rude, or otherwise, there is no grounds for a ban.

As for anyone showing the reviews from this site in order to curry favour   :thumbsdown: :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash:  :unknown:

+1

Offline Jokerinpack

I’m with the above opinions. It isn’t understandable, which is why I was surprised that someone here feels it’s ok?! Anyways, I will continue giving my reviews, and especially where I feel the give all of us feedback on poor value for money. If a smart a-hole decides to show reviews to WGs then I hope they get what they deserve. The suggestion that I may be especially difficult to please due to only two positive reviews is ridiculous. I eat at McDonalds and I eat at Michelin starred places, I temper my reviews accordingly. What I expect changes on what I spend! And I have many positive punts but as I’ve said, they are on well reviewed ladies and isn’t as helpful as the review which highlights a problem. YMMV so each to their own. You. Can always disregard my review and read someone else’s.

Offline scutty brown

I’m with the above opinions. It isn’t understandable, which is why I was surprised that someone here feels it’s ok?! Anyways, I will continue giving my reviews, and especially where I feel the give all of us feedback on poor value for money. If a smart a-hole decides to show reviews to WGs then I hope they get what they deserve. The suggestion that I may be especially difficult to please due to only two positive reviews is ridiculous. I eat at McDonalds and I eat at Michelin starred places, I temper my reviews accordingly. What I expect changes on what I spend! And I have many positive punts but as I’ve said, they are on well reviewed ladies and isn’t as helpful as the review which highlights a problem. YMMV so each to their own. You. Can always disregard my review and read someone else’s.

You're obviously hard-of-thinking.
I never said it was OK to ban you, just that I could understand why she did it. You gave her a negative, she's worried you'll give another so she won't give you the chance.  If you don't want that kind of thing to happen, then make sure you can't be identified from your reviews. You have to assume that all reviews WILL be seen by the girls or parlours involved - this is a public forum.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2019, 06:19:06 pm by scutty brown »

Offline ratedj

You're obviously hard-of-thinking.
I never said it was OK to ban you, just that I could understand why she did it. You gave her a negative, she's worried you'll give another so she won't give you the chance.  If you don't want that kind of thing to happen, then make sure you can't be identified from your reviews. You have to assume that all reviews WILL be seen by the girls or parlours involved - this is a public forum.

Having followed this thread I have to agree with Scutty. It's not cool for the SP to ban you, but let's be honest, this is the most logical consequence to an SP finding out that she has recieved a negative reivew. I get the Travelodge analogy, but whereas businesses expect to be reviewed this is likley the opposite for SPs, hecne their detest for this site and the notion that their services, or lack of, are being questioned. This is something that we must all take into account when writing a review in order to prevent the SP from being able to identify us.

Offline sparkus

The debate we've had on here in the past is do women working from ostensibly legit massage/health shops who slyly offer sexual services (often against the wishes of owners, who have licenses and councils to worry about) deserve the same level of scrutiny than an AW provider working from less identifiable premises?

One SP is married and offering men topless wanks on the sly from a salon.  Her offer is entirely legit looking, not least as she lives and works in the same area.  I can see why she'd be pissed off at blokes on here referring to her services openly on a web forum but at the same time it's the risk she took when she started wanking blokes off for wonga.  I just don't see the point in drawing it to her attention and patting yourself on the back for doing it (and from our discussions on the subject, UKP isn't something she would ordinarily chance on as she doesn't see herself as a sex worker).
« Last Edit: November 24, 2019, 07:46:42 pm by sparkus »

Online LLPunting

It's becoming more and more evident that this site is being abused in its current form.  I would hope that if management still wish for it to service its goals (which is not to drive good SPs out of the business or further enable fuckwit punters to make things worse for the rest of us) then some revision of how access and participation is long past needed.

ANYONE displaying UKP commentary to an SP or directing her to it in order to threaten or coerce her for personal gain is not a punter aligned to the purpose of this community.  He deserves every consequence of being found out by disgruntled Sergei's, enraged Madames, betrayed OHs or the cops and should not be privileged with use of this resource.


Offline scutty brown

I've mentioned this before regarding reviews of massage parlours, but in Preston we had problems of reviews of girls doing things "under the counter" which resulted in idiots walking in and demanding services which weren't on offer - and complaining to the boss when they were declined.
Ended up with one girl sacked and several put on last-chances. Caused a fair bit of police interest as well, though that died down.
All because a few idiots reported what should have been kept secret, and a few others decided they wanted the same

Offline sparkus

I've mentioned this before regarding reviews of massage parlours, but in Preston we had problems of reviews of girls doing things "under the counter" which resulted in idiots walking in and demanding services which weren't on offer - and complaining to the boss when they were declined.
Ended up with one girl sacked and several put on last-chances. Caused a fair bit of police interest as well, though that died down.
All because a few idiots reported what should have been kept secret, and a few others decided they wanted the same

That's partly what I was alluding to and have mentioned before: incident in a TCM whereby some aggressive idiot basically argued that as he'd read about FS being available in other TCMs then she should just do as she was told and give it to him for the cash he was offering, started to get abusive and called her a slut etc. to the point she had to run out of the room topless to ask reception to call the police (these bits of gen I pick up is the price of befriending these women, I admit).

The problems shops have with the authorities and neighbours over sexual services in breach of their massage treatment licence is a trickier issue.

Offline Bydnelg

Miss this place… Grace did give me a new mobile number and said she’s moving premises not king street it closed, but annoyingly I lost the number!

I had many great punts there. Any idea where she moved to? Any similar places like this around Hayes/Uxbridge? (Preferably Asian (Chinese).

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Miss this place… Grace did give me a new mobile number and said she’s moving premises not king street it closed, but annoyingly I lost the number!

I had many great punts there. Any idea where she moved to? Any similar places like this around Hayes/Uxbridge? (Preferably Asian (Chinese).
As a new member you can review up to 12 months back matey
Welcome to UKP  :drinks:

Offline Barbool

Miss this place… Grace did give me a new mobile number and said she’s moving premises not king street it closed, but annoyingly I lost the number!

I had many great punts there. Any idea where she moved to? Any similar places like this around Hayes/Uxbridge? (Preferably Asian (Chinese).

Was this post 2020 after she shut up shop? Where is King Street, exactly?

Offline Bydnelg

Was this post 2020 after she shut up shop? Where is King Street, exactly?

Oops sorry bad typo, meant to say "a few weeks before it closed", this was pre-covid 2020 can't remember exactly, but the old number has been disconnected. Think the pandemic really killed it all off.