WTF is going on with prices?

[deg_dilemma]

So
£100 is the new 30 minute fee
£200 is the new 60 minute fee

Seriously who is stupid or cash-free enough to pay these prices, especially regularly?

I used to set my hourly limit at £100 some years back but then stretched to £120. But now £200/hr appears to be the 'norm' even for average/unproven SPs.

I would pay say £150 if the SP was proven and above average, but £200 is expensive!

I might be getting old (in my 40s now) but my salary has not increased anywhere near like the cost of SPs.

So tell me, am I just a whinger and either should put up or get out, or am I right?

[alabama1]

Your last punt, 3 months ago cost you £120 for one hour. How do you explain that  And do you have any factual evidence that £200 is "the norm" now ?

[Fuzzyduck]

I agree you're right, but I also think you've just been a bit lazy and not read the recent discussions about this. These are just a few of them.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=313264
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=306101

[Hannibal35]

Maths doesn’t seem to be their strong point either,  for example looking at one today  £140 an hour, but 2 hours is £300

[alabama1]

Maths doesn’t seem to be their strong point either,  for example looking at one today  £140 an hour, but 2 hours is £300

Perhaps she doesn't like 2 hour bookings 

[mikeg1600]

tend to agree with you, prices in my area (SW) used to be around the £150 an hour mark prior to COVID now £180 - £200, guess some SP's are trying to recoup a loss of earnings. Not sure they were allowed furlough 

[daviemac]

So tell me, am I just a whinger and either should put up or get out, or am I right?

You're just wrong, £60 / £80 / £110 for 30 / 45 / 60 mins is the normal in my area. That gets you a mid 20's English stunner as well.

Standard prices differ depending on the area.

[smiths]

So
£100 is the new 30 minute fee
£200 is the new 60 minute fee

Seriously who is stupid or cash-free enough to pay these prices, especially regularly?

I used to set my hourly limit at £100 some years back but then stretched to £120. But now £200/hr appears to be the 'norm' even for average/unproven SPs.

I would pay say £150 if the SP was proven and above average, but £200 is expensive!

I might be getting old (in my 40s now) but my salary has not increased anywhere near like the cost of SPs.

So tell me, am I just a whinger and either should put up or get out, or am I right?

Its up to punters what they pay but it is the case in my area of London that prices in the main have gone up, and many new WGs on A/W are starting off charging £150 or more an hour.

There are still some WGs charging £60 half hour, more at £70 or £80 and £90-140 an hour. I wont pay more than £80 half hour unless its maybe a one-off and my absolute limit is £200 an hour which I haven't paid for a long time, £190 for the hour being the most I have paid in the last 10 years or so. I can locate good WGs for the above £90-140 an hour but not as many as their used to be sadly.

[Lewis]

Seriously who is stupid or cash-free enough to pay these prices, especially regularly?

People with more money than sense, or those that can fiddle it through something like business expenses.

And don't get me started on those WGs who are now charging extra for kissing, owo, etc.

[OakTree]

People with more money than sense, or those that can fiddle it through something like business expenses.

And don't get me started on those WGs who are now charging extra for kissing, owo, etc.

Agreed. Never pay for extras especially when it's the fundamentals of a paid fuck.

That said I will pay for a higher price girl (all inclusive, no extras) if I fancy her and I think I'm going to enjoy it. It's a risk though because if it turns out shit then it hits you twice as hard than if it was a lot of cash cheaper.

[Stevelondon]

You're just wrong, £60 / £80 / £110 for 30 / 45 / 60 mins is the normal in my area. That gets you a mid 20's English stunner as well.

Standard prices differ depending on the area.

I seriously have to consider moving 

[adindas]

It might be depending on location. In London for instance there are reasonable number of working girls charging £60-£80 for half hour.

This is just one example a reasonably good-looking English babe Riley Wyte (aka Roxy Lace) charging £80 for half hour in the in London City Centre. Occasionally, she is doing touring in several cities in the UK
External Link/Members Only  or External Link/Members Only

In AW if you search based on price and you fill find enough of them in this price range. If you are willing to travel further to North or East London you will get a better rate. Especially Hungarian, there are reasonable number of them are charging £60 half hour.

Also, there are also enough good reviews for these working girls on the review section on UKP London.

[WelshClipper]

I am going to be controversial here. I dont disagree with comments that you can get a good fuck for £120 but it needs the caveat “if youre lucky”

My own view is safety and discretion are my number one consideration. I will pay extra if I feel more comfortable about the perceived environment. Its a very personal thing, I am sure I am missing out on some really good deals.

When I was younger, I fucked any wg in any location for anything from 60 to 120. Some of those places I visited now just give me the shivers. Now I punt less and spend a lot of time reading about the location especially if she is foreign and any sniff of trafficking.

Maybe I am overcautious but an extra £50 is not my main deciding factor anymore. To save money, I just punt less.

The other consideration is the threads mentioning lots of EEs going home because of Brexit and a lot of British girls retiring because of Covid. In my view the market has definitely tightened up and prices have increased although not unilaterally. I have no idea if brexit and covid are deciding factors.

Dont get me wrong, I dont disagree with what others have said, just putting my thoughts out there for debate. 

[Spacecowb0y]

IF punters are silly enough or desperate enough (lockdown starvation) to pay the higher rates, then we are all screwed. £120-150 is a fair amount to pay for the majority of gjrls imo

[robsmith149]

You're just wrong, £60 / £80 / £110 for 30 / 45 / 60 mins is the normal in my area. That gets you a mid 20's English stunner as well.

Can't get a mid 20's English stunner at any price around here.

[Home Alone]

I get a bit hacked off with threads like this one where posters report what they've paid recently for a punt without clarifying i] the region where they've punted; and ii] the category of SP they've seen; and then generalise how much more expensive punting's become.

I'm not denying - I couldn't - that prices have generally gone up since the first lockdown began. But as a punter who generally sees Milfs in the English provinces, I'd never need to pay as much as £200 for an hour with an attractive - and more importantly, good, imo - SP.

[WelshClipper]

I live in a real desert. Not only the town I live in but the area surrounding. Most of my local escorts are part time sheep 

So I have to travel before I even start. Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield, Reading, Oxford, Bristol, Birmingham, Nottingham. So I am the complete opposite of a punter who travels just around South London.

When I arrive in say, Leicester, I have a list of wgs I would like to see. No type especially, most nationalities, size 8 to 12, prices 120 to 200 ph, age 18 to 55-ish, all seeming to have discreet premises.

The one I see tends to be one who answers the phone first, not necessarily the cheapest one. It is just the way I punt, I do not have the luxury of a bevy of local wgs.

[lewisjones23]

So
£100 is the new 30 minute fee
£200 is the new 60 minute fee

Seriously who is stupid or cash-free enough to pay these prices, especially regularly?

I used to set my hourly limit at £100 some years back but then stretched to £120. But now £200/hr appears to be the 'norm' even for average/unproven SPs.

I would pay say £150 if the SP was proven and above average, but £200 is expensive!

I might be getting old (in my 40s now) but my salary has not increased anywhere near like the cost of SPs.

So tell me, am I just a whinger and either should put up or get out, or am I right?

whinger - no one is forcing you to punt

[alabama1]

Pisses me off when the OP starts a thread, then refuses to respond !

[FiveKnuckles]

was the 45min duration just recently added by AW?  I think some girls used this to adjust all the price buckets.  they could increase by £5 but logically determined no one carries fivers so it's a £10 increase. 

the price is always skewed towards 30min or 60min, like  £70, £80, £120 for 15, 30, 60.  Those of us that shoot quick need to ask if 30min is multi pop or it's again easy money.

[Woblybobsdog]

We pay it. They charge it . Were being spanked by the invisible hand

[Whiteknight]

Can't get a mid 20's English stunner at any price around here.

Any decent is over 160ph down South here

[Roman77]

Noticed touring girls in NI are usually £100 half hour and £200 for the hour. It used to be an average £80 half hour and £140/£160 for the hour with more services on offer without an extra £20 for this or £30 for that.

Some local girls have followed raising their prices to the same rates. It's a supply and demand issue in NI with the well heeled able to afford the new prices. They've ruined things for the average punter with some SP's forgetting their regular clients.
The days of £120 for an hour have long gone.

[Lou2019]

was the 45min duration just recently added by AW?  I think some girls used this to adjust all the price buckets.  they could increase by £5 but logically determined no one carries fivers so it's a £10 increase. 

the price is always skewed towards 30min or 60min, like  £70, £80, £120 for 15, 30, 60.  Those of us that shoot quick need to ask if 30min is multi pop or it's again easy money.

yes 45 mins option is a recent addition by AW in last say 2/3 months. A lot of my regs like it as they can have their showers without it eating into their half hour.

[alabama1]

yes 45 mins option is a recent addition by AW in last say 2/3 months. A lot of my regs like it as they can have their showers without it eating into their half hour.

I think there should be a 35/65 minute option to stop "walking time" eating into a booking, applicable for certain wg's insistent on giving you directions bang on the start time !

[chadpitt]

It's people with shady businesses and boomers who pay these prices. I for one have never paid more than £100 an hour and only someone desperate or foolish would pay more.

[Lou2019]

I think there should be a 35/65 minute option to stop "walking time" eating into a booking, applicable for certain wg's insistent on giving you directions bang on the start time !

yes I can understand how that can be an issue

[Hobbit]

It's people with shady businesses and boomers who pay these prices. I for one have never paid more than £100 an hour and only someone desperate or foolish would pay more.

You should try living in London mate. Most people don't even get out of bed for less than £100 nowadays. You could argue it's a crazy mentality or perhaps a change of financial Times based on economic changes. However, what is definitely apparent is that since Brexit things will change and have economically across the UK. The Europeans always seem to work hard for less and unfortunately we British seem to want to work less for more. Not sure if this is a millennium attitude or if it is across the board but I have definitely seen it across different sectors of businesses in the UK.

With regards to your point about only shady people paying more, that's not true. People pay based on their circumstances and what they can afford and sometimes on what they need.

[sparkus]

London massage shop prices were reporting as having runaway quotes for extras after lockdown, seems to have stabilised now.  40 quid for b2b remains the norm.

I've had some recent 40/50 P&Ds and an unclockwatched 30 minutes for 60 quid recently.

What hasn't materialised is the hoped for influx of new/native talent into sex work as a result of the economic downturn.

[FiveKnuckles]

yes 45 mins option is a recent addition by AW in last say 2/3 months. A lot of my regs like it as they can have their showers without it eating into their half hour.

  that's one an expensive shower. guess the water bill and shower gel needs to be paid.   

it does make sense, you're selling time and your regs are happy with that arrangement.

[Duncy]

I suppose it depends where you are in the country. But I have noticed that some WG's have put prices recently but if you look around you can still find some good punts
at 100 to 150 per hour I always had a limit of £150 and not had any problems getting good punts that have VFM for under that amount. Having said that I did stretch it to £160 once for someone that really got my attention Not really sure it was worth it though.

I thing a lot of it is that some WG's look around and see the girls that have a few porn videos on line and have stared charging 200+ and think I can get that and the only way to stop it is by not booking them so when business starts to drop off they rethink their pricing.

[Lou2019]

that's one an expensive shower. guess the water bill and shower gel needs to be paid.   

it does make sense, you're selling time and your regs are happy with that arrangement.

and don't forget the clean towels lol.

[Nagilum]

It is not the new norm. Are you speaking about your regulars who have hiked their prices?

What you are quoting here are West London prices which have always been £150 and up for an hour.

[lillythesavage]

London massage shop prices were reporting as having runaway quotes for extras after lockdown, seems to have stabilised now.  40 quid for b2b remains the norm.

I've had some recent 40/50 P&Ds and an unclockwatched 30 minutes for 60 quid recently.

What hasn't materialised is the hoped for influx of new/native talent into sex work as a result of the economic downturn.

Second time economic downturn has been mentioned, not the case, bounce back is on big time, The moaning big business has been told to train Brits and make jobs more attractive to employees. There is a million plus vacancies advertised.

Instead of imposing a minimum wage or suggesting a living wage, wages are climbing and they are now paying sign on bonuses, ASDA are currently offering 6k bonus for HGV drivers and the agencies are paying 24 quid plus an hour. Not just in London either.
Hospitality is going to have to follow to some extent, they have thrived on cheap labor for too long without a care for how staff live. as long as shareholders get a dividend.
The motor industry will be employing again soon, once the processors come back on stream that have stalled car building, all those companies that everyone said would leave with Brexit but have not, the Ford dealership I do work for are gearing up for the rush, with November expected to be the busiest ever.

We might be in debt as a country, and prices are going to go up, but the job market is changing for the better and might make benefits a less attractive option if everyone can earn a living wage. Might even do away with zero hours contracts eventually.

[chadpitt]

You should try living in London mate. Most people don't even get out of bed for less than £100 nowadays. You could argue it's a crazy mentality or perhaps a change of financial Times based on economic changes. However, what is definitely apparent is that since Brexit things will change and have economically across the UK. The Europeans always seem to work hard for less and unfortunately we British seem to want to work less for more. Not sure if this is a millennium attitude or if it is across the board but I have definitely seen it across different sectors of businesses in the UK.

With regards to your point about only shady people paying more, that's not true. People pay based on their circumstances and what they can afford and sometimes on what they need.

I don't deny there is regional pricing but for anyone not living in London, but it seems silly to pay £150 an hour rather than just go to a nearby cheaper city on a weekend.

What Brexit did was mess up the exchange rates meaning WGs were better off working in Europe. With less competition came price hikes and reductions in quality.

I didn't just say shady people I also included boomers who are generally in a much better financial position, especially if they're drawing down generous pensions. But I've noticed WGs get a lot of shady customers hence you see a lot of WGs working in some real grimy sh*tholes. Yeah it's cheap, but they go where the work is.

[Belgarion]

Depends on the area to be honest. I have my limits and will only spend big bucks on known quantities.

[chadpitt]

Second time economic downturn has been mentioned, not the case, bounce back is on big time, The moaning big business has been told to train Brits and make jobs more attractive to employees. There is a million plus vacancies advertised.

Instead of imposing a minimum wage or suggesting a living wage, wages are climbing and they are now paying sign on bonuses, ASDA are currently offering 6k bonus for HGV drivers and the agencies are paying 24 quid plus an hour. Not just in London either.
Hospitality is going to have to follow to some extent, they have thrived on cheap labor for too long without a care for how staff live. as long as shareholders get a dividend.
The motor industry will be employing again soon, once the processors come back on stream that have stalled car building, all those companies that everyone said would leave with Brexit but have not, the Ford dealership I do work for are gearing up for the rush, with November expected to be the busiest ever.

We might be in debt as a country, and prices are going to go up, but the job market is changing for the better and might make benefits a less attractive option if everyone can earn a living wage. Might even do away with zero hours contracts eventually.

Well no they're saying it's a K shaped recovery as in skilled professionals will see their wages go up, but entry level jobs and lower skilled ones will see the opposite. Pret a Manger is cutting staff salaries and furlough will be done after September. Honestly how many HGV drivers are even women? It's not a fun job and doesn't exactly it around childcare responsibilities.

[Nathxxx]

I mentioned in my last review, I have become very selective with escorts. I now just stick to ones I know very well and punt less frequently. I’m now all about quality over quantity. I used to punt upto three times a week and looking back, on many of them, I might as well have had a wank.

I turned the change in market to suit me: I won’t waste money on shit punts anymore.

[Will2k]

Is all of this becoming a variation of the paradox if thrift? Where by SP raises prices to make up for lost income, punters save more and spend less, further increasing prices, further reducing appointments. All this and alt income streams remove SP from the the world force which would traditionally lower supply and increase  prices

[69Luvva]

Prices have definitely gone up in the South East / SW London. I was out of punting for some years, but still have notes on pricing for girls I'd hotlisted - typically prices are up £20-30 although some are definitely even higher.
I have particular tastes / services I require which mean I've always considered £150/h the usual and am now struggling to get what I want for less than £180/£190 ph. 
This is definitely the double-whammy from Brexit and Covid - lots of Europeans were already being motivated to head home thanks to Brexit but with Covid lockdowns killing the punting trade last year only the hard core seem to have stayed and British escorts have always generally charged more and offered less anyway.  It's just supply and demand.
Fortunately, I've been able to fill the gap with sugar babies as that has generally been much better value over the last year - lots of fresh young students struggling to support themselves. 
I can typically get everything I want for £200-£250 - often without any time constraints or service limits, even overnights - which makes punting increasingly look a bit redundant. 

[deg_dilemma]

Most of my punting is in my local area west of London, or in London itself.  My local area used to be £100/hr for the Roms etc and then £120 - £130 for British girls. You could always get a good EE for £100/hr. Now the minimum is £120 and this is for the unreliable/unproven Roms. Even the Brazilians, well known for B&S and catfishing, are at £180 now.

Some years ago I had a lovely WG in Hemel who worked at £100/hr including OWO and CIM. I went to visit her weekly and was happy with the arrangement.  Some of the guys here say they now punt less, at the more expensive prices, but that is a lose/win situation (guess who the loser is).... paying the same amount for half the fun - how is that a deal?

There is the odd diamond in the rough at £120 and they are to be revered and cherished! 

Look at London and surrounding areas, the half-decent girls are at £200 and the ones you dream of meeting are at £250 to £350 per hour. That would be 5 family meals out at a restaurant for us!  Like I said in my post above, maybe I'm just crossing that bridge into old(er) age and the 'good old days' of decent £100 punts will only ever be a distant memory never to return.

And yet we read reviews of £600/hr punts. It's not like I don't have money, but there is a difference between knowing the price of something and the value of it. Still, if a guy is happy to pay that amount then kudos to him, and respect to the girl who can get away with such a fee.

£100 has become £120/£130
£120 has become £150
£150 has become £200
etc

I accept this is a whinge, and market forces, supply & demand etc will determine prices, but ultimately I'm just gutted that my income is not keeping up with WG inflation and it means I get a lot less for my hard-earned.

[southcoastpunter]

I accept this is a whinge, and market forces, supply & demand etc will determine prices, but ultimately I'm just gutted that my income is not keeping up with WG inflation and it means I get a lot less for my hard-earned.

That's life. That is reality. Accept it and stop whinging and pay the asking prices or if you don't think its worth it for you, don't pay and find someone else or stop punting.

And its not just "supply and demand/market forces" - other factors also influence prices!

This must be the 6th or seventh thread on price increases in the last year or so - and guess what? it achieves nothing! The power is in your hands for you. Pay or don't pay. Its that simple!

[PepeMAGA]

Some have gone up... But mostly they are the ones that were already expensive, like 180 to 200. I guess if they feel entitled to over charge on the first place, they feel equally entitled to make customers pay for what they've lost over lockdown.
I don't know as it's a general increase though

[pantywetter]

In 2019 I’d taken leave of my senses and started paying 180-250, most often with Diva at the high end.  Found this necessary to get pretty, well reviewed girls with good comms in zone 1.

That section of the market is now at 220-300+.

If I get good service maybe I would keep reluctantly paying it, but when service is average as it has been lately, it is bordering on not worth it for me. 

[NickyBobby]

Less choice and prices creeping up by £20 in my punting area of Nottingham, compared to last year. Seems the English girls are trying to cash in on less competition. Hopefully their phones will continue to gather dust and market forces will cause a drop in prices again

[WelshClipper]

It really puts a downer on TOFTT these days.

If you are going to spend 150 to 200, makes sense to at least stick to ukp approved wgs.

I would feel like a real nobhead coming out of a £200 punt to post a negative review 

[lillythesavage]

Less choice and prices creeping up by £20 in my punting area of Nottingham, compared to last year. Seems the English girls are trying to cash in on less competition. Hopefully their phones will continue to gather dust and market forces will cause a drop in prices again

There in lies the answer, supply and demand, I doubt the phones are dusty at all, increased demand has given reason for increased prices, no one wants to price themselves out of work.

The fake picture issue is a need for privacy, with all the picture searches and numpties trying to link them to social media or out them lookalike pics are a better option and sometimes they have skewed views of their looks .

It is the age we live in, keeping secrets is difficult if you put your pictures on the net.

[Everhard115]

Compared to say a couple of years ago the prices are almost doubled! Most SP's have started charging extras so the whole package has become very pricey.  For me this has meant no punting as I just can't justify paying stupid rates. I don't see the point of a punt if no owo and cim is on offer and usually any half decent SP is charging upwards of 160 per hour for this with 200 becoming the normal for a young english half decent looking girl.

So for me its a case of enjoying the other half and no punting. I think for me its a mental barrier I can afford to pay the high rates but I jus't can't justify it in my head so there we go. There must be punters out there paying the rates the girls charge or maybe just going for the basic service and punters are accepting that they will need to pay extra for some services.

Either ways I will stay put at home and wait for a couple of years to see how it all plays out. If the odd bird with reasonable rates comes along then I wil dive in

Happy punting.

[Comicman]

There  is a serious lack of value for money girls at the moment  even average girls are charging £100 for 30 minutes  absolutely ridiculous 

[Whiteknight]

There  is a serious lack of value for money girls at the moment  even average girls are charging £100 for 30 minutes  absolutely ridiculous 

English escorts are charging 200 ph in Brighton, a couple mad ones charging 250

Romanian and Brazilian are more like 130 ph