Author Topic: Secret Benefits as an Alternative to Seeking Arrangements (Read 31552 times)

tynetunnel · « **Reply #100 on:** October 20, 2021, 01:30:16 pm »

The initial credits required are $59 (about £43) and will buy 100 credits which is enough to message 10 girls. To unlock messaging with one girl costs 10 credits. As does viewing their private gallery, boosting your message visibility in her inbox or sending a picture in a message

Subsequent credit purchases are a minimum 200 credits for $89

Marmalade · « **Reply #101 on:** October 20, 2021, 02:03:42 pm »

Could we maybe have some way of highlighting the differences?

Seeking seeking.com

SeekingArrangements seekingarrangaments.com/

There also a scammish-looking site called seekingdating.co.uk which advertises itself as “the seeking arrangement sugar dating platform”

And as mentioned by the previous poster,
secretbenefits External Link/Members Only

I’m not a user of any of those sites and assume those who are know what they mean. But the difference between the first two is not exactly obvious.

southcoastpunter · « **Reply #102 on:** October 20, 2021, 02:09:09 pm »

seeking arrangements has just been shortened to "seeking" (and to seeking.com) - so they are one and the same.

I have no experience of the others to comment on

The0neAnd0nly · « **Reply #103 on:** October 22, 2021, 09:52:50 pm »

Thanks for all the information and advice on here. I've taken the plunge and signed up to Secret Benefits a few days ago.

Took the advice given by others - my bio makes it clear I'm not there to mess around without coming across as a dick (I hope) or get into trouble with the site. Although I've not uploaded a verified video due to being concious it can be viewed by anyone I have put some pics in the private gallery and noted this in the bio.

Already had 3 girls message me - 1 seemed genuine, verified, local and bio seemed DTF. However on opening the message (I paid £43 for 100 credits) it seemed a bit bot-y so I may have been duped.
The 2nd one was too far away and the 3rd whilst again local seemed up herself (dinner and shopping sprees only.

* edit - I also checked that these 3 girls had already viewed my profile before messaging me. I only messaged the first one.

I've also added about 10 girls to my Favourite list with no intention of messaging first - again local, verified and bio make it seem like cash for sex will be possible.

There seem to be plenty of verified girls local to me and the good thing about the clip is you make out a local accent or not. I'm hopeful but cautious... like many a horny man has gone before me I'm sure!

Natwest · « **Reply #104 on:** October 22, 2021, 10:18:41 pm »

I must admit this week I got very frustrated with the number of girls that contacted me and when I opened the message all it says was "Hey". I have had various discussions with their Customer Services over the fact that on "What's Your Price" if a girl contacts you and you reply without giving alternative contact details and she doesn't reply within 7 days you can claim your credits back.

Anyway I put a review up on Trust Pilot of my thoughts on the site so far giving them 3 out of 5 stars. Within 10 minutes I was contacted by Trust Pilot asking if I was willing to share my details with Secret Benefits to which I said I would. A few minutes after that I got an email from Secret Benefits refunding the money I had paid for the last bundle of credits and a refund of the previous bundle and asking me if I would consider taking my review down. It seemed with that kind of response it would have been churlish not to. So I still have enough credits to contact 130 girls and received around £350 back to my credit card. I really was shocked but as I have said all along you cannot fault their customer service.

I did point out at length that the thing about girls contacting a sugar daddy with one word messages to which they never follow up, leaves them open to accusations of "bots" milking credits. I hope they will take my suggestion on board. I fully admit the number of girls is far less than "Seeking" but it is a whole different so much more pleasant environment to be hunting in where as a customer you do feel appreciated and I would definitely say quality over quantity. I have now had some pretty good meets and hopefully I have another girl staying overnight tomorrow night if all goes well.

BN99 · « **Reply #105 on:** October 23, 2021, 09:01:36 am »

I took the plunge a few weeks ago and purchased an initial 100 credits. Followed the advice of the OP in setting up the profile and what to look for before opening messages. I got a few messages within a couple of days and have liked quite a lot of localish profiles. I only ever got into a conversation with someone who messaged me first. Of those I think 2 were genuine. One of them I got onto whatsapp but she wanted too much per meet. The other died off after a couple of messages on the site.

As you get to use your last couple of credits you will get an offer to more double credits for a 10 mnute window. So I bought some more. Maybe not the best idead in hindsight.

Overall in the last couple of weeks i have around 60 girls contact me. About 55 of them are quite local (within the time distance as I specified in the profile). I have opened the messages from 35 of them and replied to them all. Most of the original messages from them have been generic openers and I am almost certain are bot generated. I never get a reply to my message.

Overall Im very disappointed in the site and now have the opinion that it almost completly fake and bot based. I may try putting a review on trustpilot and see what happens. I am also thinking about doing a scrape of the profiles and their opening messages. Would be interesting to compare with others on here see if we find common openeing messages from multiple profiles that then get no further reply.

tynetunnel · « **Reply #106 on:** October 23, 2021, 10:48:33 am »

I have a similar experience to the last two posts. I paid £43 for 100 credits (enough for 10 messages) and followed the advice here and wait for the girls to contact me first. I had loads of contact and in the end spent my credits on 8 messages, along with inadvertently wasting 20 credits on a private pics set and sending a pic, which I never knew would cost 10 credits, although I now know that everything costs 10 credits!

Most of my messages received turned out to be “hey” and never replied to my reply. I emailed to customer support and suggested some of the profiles might not be genuine/bots and got a lovely email back with a refund (yet to hit my card) and a free 100 credits

These have been spent on messaging 10 further profiles who had messaged me, and again have led nowhere. Only one girl said she hated the platform and where could we talk, I suggested WhatsApp and gave my number, to be met with no further replies!

So I haven’t spent any money, have responded to messages sent to me first, from 18 profiles, and it’s gone nowhere. I can’t fault the customer support, but it does seem to have been a waste of time. I’m sure I’d have done better on SA, although I’d definitely have committed the monthly fee whereas financially I haven’t paid anything.

Edit: have you noticed how the girls look fantastic in their photos, then in their verification videos they seem to have made no effort at all, and you can see the ‘real’ them? Dressing gowns, messy hair, gappy teeth, and even those where you wonder if it’s a different person in the video compared to the pics. Quite enlightening

BN99 · « **Reply #107 on:** October 23, 2021, 11:17:39 am »

I had made the same observation about the videos but forgot to mention it in the last post. There were a few whos pictures looked quite good and was temptes to respond to but after watching the video decided against it.

ik8133 · « **Reply #108 on:** October 23, 2021, 02:03:24 pm »

Quote from: BN99 on October 23, 2021, 11:17:39 am

I had made the same observation about the videos but forgot to mention it in the last post. There were a few whos pictures looked quite good and was temptes to respond to but after watching the video decided against it.

Totally agree with that, I think a lot of them are using apps to enhance their pictures. When you you see their videos and what they really look and sound like, you wouldn't want to spend 5 mins with them, never mind a couple of hours!

qwertyone · « **Reply #109 on:** October 23, 2021, 06:03:57 pm »

Quote from: tynetunnel on October 23, 2021, 10:48:33 am

Edit: have you noticed how the girls look fantastic in their photos, then in their verification videos they seem to have made no effort at all, and you can see the ‘real’ them? Dressing gowns, messy hair, gappy teeth, and even those where you wonder if it’s a different person in the video compared to the pics. Quite enlightening

exactly

they don't have to be stunning in their videos... but when the photos are stunning and the video looks like a crack whore or someone who just ate a crack whore it's a whole different ball game

Mr_Shins · « **Reply #110 on:** October 23, 2021, 08:24:32 pm »

The difference on WYP is they have the meet-up money waiting for them if they carry it through.

I have met another very gorgeous woman on WYP recently.

I did meet the lady on SB and didn't actually pay her anything.. she was very charming and lived local, but had 2 school-age children and at the time it was summer holidays so meeting her was difficult. I didn't get to meet her again but that was not intentional, just the one I've been "with" for a while came back from abroad and moved in with me again.
I met the new one on WYP pretty much as soon as she moved out.

The0neAnd0nly · « **Reply #111 on:** October 26, 2021, 09:54:52 am »

Just a quick update on my SB experience - been pretty underwhelming to be honest.

Have now messaged about 6 or 7 woman who were verified, had a verification video viewable, lived locally and had all viewed my profile before messaging me first or adding me to their favourites.
All had made reference to FWB, NSA or being open to mutually benificial arrangements on their profile too.

Out of all the girls only 1 seems like a real person and I'm in dialogue with her now. Average looking but fantastic chesticles so am pursuing.

I messaged SB asking for a refund of my subs which they did immediately (email received, 10 working days to receieve) as well as topping me back to 100 credits which I didn't ask for so I can't fault them at all. They sent me a long winded email explaining their verification process and how they detect fake account or bots as I stated this in my email to them.

I'll play around with my new 100 credits and see if I can get anywhere with some of the profiles I might not have considered before on the first pass or wait for new profiles to be added. Can't fault the site or service at all. I'm still unsure about whether to add my pics or a video myself so will see - don't think either are likely to improve my success rates to be honest!

The0neAnd0nly · « **Reply #112 on:** October 26, 2021, 09:57:08 am »

Quote from: tynetunnel on October 23, 2021, 10:48:33 am

Edit: have you noticed how the girls look fantastic in their photos, then in their verification videos they seem to have made no effort at all, and you can see the ‘real’ them? Dressing gowns, messy hair, gappy teeth, and even those where you wonder if it’s a different person in the video compared to the pics. Quite enlightening

I find this really weird too. It's like adult work verification pics when the girls used to have no makeup on or anything. Do both sites gave a policy of only naturally taken veri pics - never looked into it that much?

Edit - sorry another quick question?. Does signing up to the private gallery on SB contribute to the girls bank or the sites? Can the girls make money just getting people to open their private pics?

Mr_Shins · « **Reply #113 on:** October 26, 2021, 10:18:55 am »

Quote from: The0neAnd0nly on October 26, 2021, 09:57:08 am

I find this really weird too. It's like adult work verification pics when the girls used to have no makeup on or anything. Do both sites gave a policy of only naturally taken veri pics - never looked into it that much?

Edit - sorry another quick question?. Does signing up to the private gallery on SB contribute to the girls bank or the sites? Can the girls make money just getting people to open their private pics?

I think it just gives money to the site, but you'd have to ask one. It would be better if it's just the site, or women would sign up for content only with no intention of meeting anyone.

Natwest · « **Reply #114 on:** October 26, 2021, 03:21:04 pm »

Quote from: The0neAnd0nly on October 26, 2021, 09:57:08 am

I find this really weird too. It's like adult work verification pics when the girls used to have no makeup on or anything. Do both sites gave a policy of only naturally taken veri pics - never looked into it that much?

Edit - sorry another quick question?. Does signing up to the private gallery on SB contribute to the girls bank or the sites? Can the girls make money just getting people to open their private pics?

It just goes to the site, the females get no kick back. Worth noting that they can't complete their profile without having a private gallery so in general it's just a sub set of their photos, not some stash of soft porn.

The0neAnd0nly · « **Reply #115 on:** October 26, 2021, 10:09:32 pm »

Quote from: Natwest on October 26, 2021, 03:21:04 pm

It just goes to the site, the females get no kick back. Worth noting that they can't complete their profile without having a private gallery so in general it's just a sub set of their photos, not some stash of soft porn.

Thanks for the clarification OP and Mr Shins. The only girl ive subscribed to the private gallery to is the average big chebbed girl mentioned earlier. Not top less but decent pics of her in lingerie and the sort that didn't make me regret it but wouldnt be doing it if i didnt get my refund and credits topped up. Defo same girl as tattoos and necklace identifiable.

Thank for the great work OP reply appreciate it

Mr_Shins · « **Reply #116 on:** October 27, 2021, 11:50:00 am »

I'm sure you already would but a clear scammer

External Link/Members Only

Very pretty but not verified. One of the problems of the site is there is no indication how long she has had a profile there. I did tineye one of the photos and didn't get a match, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's her and not some instagram model she has stolen. Not sure instagram model photos show up on Tineye.

Profile says Birmingham but she messaged me first having liked my profile and then said she's actually in Camden, knowing I'm in London. Wanted a lower allowance while we got to know each other and asked how much I was willing to pay. I said that was fine but it would be given to her "on meeting" at which point she blocked me on WhatsApp.

Another issue with that site is that to report someone automatically blocks their profile. That means you can't check whether your report was followed up or not. It would be good if we could stealth-block users. That means we could still see their profile and they could see ours but we couldn't message them, and if they messaged us they'd simply always be unread. I normally don't like that, but it would be useful in this case. It would also be good if we could unblock them at a later stage.

The0neAnd0nly · « **Reply #117 on:** November 04, 2021, 09:59:04 pm »

Quick update - I've now taken 3 girls off Seeking Benefits and onto WhatsApp. They've all made the right noises about getting what I want from my profile but as soon as we start discussing meeting up (no sexual talk or acts discussed) radio silence and no further messages.

I genuinely believe now that a large number of girls on SB think they (and may well do) will get a sugar daddy who is happy to pay them for nothing more then a platonic or coffee/ meal date.

Ultimately a lot of time wasted and a lot of girls messaging "I'm happy to take real good care of you / fulfill all you needs, desires, kinks etc" but then have no intention of following through. Shame that as thought there was a chance I'd be able to shag a few with a decent PPM agreement!

The0neAnd0nly · « **Reply #118 on:** November 04, 2021, 10:01:13 pm »

Just to add that Im now sleeping with 2 civvies regularly (both a few times a week) so maybe I haven't got enough patience for SB or anything of the sort at the moment whereas when I joined up I did.

Perhaps this is coming across in my comms or messages to them but either way still think majoroty of girls looking for someone gullible to rinse.

Mr_Shins · « **Reply #119 on:** November 04, 2021, 10:39:24 pm »

Quote from: The0neAnd0nly on November 04, 2021, 09:59:04 pm

Quick update - I've now taken 3 girls off Seeking Benefits and onto WhatsApp. They've all made the right noises about getting what I want from my profile but as soon as we start discussing meeting up (no sexual talk or acts discussed) radio silence and no further messages.

I genuinely believe now that a large number of girls on SB think they (and may well do) will get a sugar daddy who is happy to pay them for nothing more then a platonic or coffee/ meal date.

Ultimately a lot of time wasted and a lot of girls messaging "I'm happy to take real good care of you / fulfill all you needs, desires, kinks etc" but then have no intention of following through. Shame that as thought there was a chance I'd be able to shag a few with a decent PPM agreement!

I've taken 3 too, one will probably be let go, the other two I'm happy with. And I'm seeing one from WYP on a regular basis.

One of them, when I mentioned my fetish, said she'd do it all night!

Cunning Punt · « **Reply #120 on:** November 04, 2021, 10:54:20 pm »

Quote from: The0neAnd0nly on November 04, 2021, 09:59:04 pm

I genuinely believe now that a large number of girls on SB think they (and may well do) will get a sugar daddy who is happy to pay them for nothing more then a platonic or coffee/ meal date.

Ultimately a lot of time wasted and a lot of girls messaging "I'm happy to take real good care of you / fulfill all you needs, desires, kinks etc" but then have no intention of following through. Shame that as thought there was a chance I'd be able to shag a few with a decent PPM agreement!

That's just like Seeking but at least on Seeking there are far more women, so your chances of finding a genuine SB is increased if you're willing to put the hard yards in. Even with Seeking, it's been a struggle due to fallout from Covid, though activity from girls' has suddenly picked up this week just as my sub is about to expire.

If nothing happens with these girls who I'm chatting to via SA, then I will give Secret Benefits a go. I fear it will be as you suggest - hard work - but at least it seems from posters here you can claim compensation. Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread - very useful.

dunbusy · « **Reply #121 on:** November 05, 2021, 05:53:53 pm »

This is my experience of SB, ands it’s not too good. I’ve been on there for quite a while, and have received a lot of messages despite having no pictures or description, but added those in private gallery and continued to receive daily messages-which I couldn’t read-so decided to have ago. I’ve been on SA for around 5 years and have always done well, but that’s been hard work recently so decided on giving SB a try. After buying credits, I messaged 19 girls, 18 of which had messaged me first. Not one reply!! Reading on here that if you complained you received a refund of credits, which is what I done on both counts. Since complaining, I’ve messaged a few girls, one replied, then radio silence. Also, the messages from random girls have completely stopped. I know I’m not gods gift, but I’m late 40’s, keep myself up together and don’t mind spending, but this site seems complete bullshit. If I had my time again, I wouldn’t bother and just stick with SA.

qwertyone · « **Reply #122 on:** November 05, 2021, 08:40:47 pm »

same here, bought 1000 credits, have 160 left and only had 4 women who'd replied to me, one was a pro, that's not what I'm there for, one more might be ok... other two have stopped replying

it's horrible to say it but I'm glad it's the same for others and it's not just me!

Punterperson1971 · « **Reply #123 on:** November 05, 2021, 09:40:44 pm »

Quote from: qwertyone on November 05, 2021, 08:40:47 pm

same here, bought 1000 credits, have 160 left and only had 4 women who'd replied to me, one was a pro, that's not what I'm there for, one more might be ok... other two have stopped replying

it's horrible to say it but I'm glad it's the same for others and it's not just me!

Maybe you and the above poster should take up punting

Marmalade · « **Reply #124 on:** November 05, 2021, 10:42:41 pm »

What a couple of fuckwits. On here for a combined total of 11 years and that’s the best they can come up with? Clueless. They’d be better off spending it on a subscription to Readers’ Digest.

finn5555 · « **Reply #125 on:** November 05, 2021, 10:44:25 pm »

Quote from: qwertyone on November 05, 2021, 08:40:47 pm

same here, bought 1000 credits, have 160 left and only had 4 women who'd replied to me, one was a pro, that's not what I'm there for, one more might be ok... other two have stopped replying

it's horrible to say it but I'm glad it's the same for others and it's not just me!

How much did that cost you 🤷‍♂️

Marmalade · « **Reply #126 on:** November 05, 2021, 11:58:27 pm »

Quote from: finn5555 on November 05, 2021, 10:44:25 pm

How much did that cost you 🤷‍♂️

Being generous, I expect the whole episode hasu left him somewhat discombobulated.

Sorry! I just felt like getting that word into a sentence!

qwertyone · « **Reply #127 on:** November 06, 2021, 03:44:07 pm »

it was a bit over £200... £220 I think? wasn't really paying much attention

spent more than that on seeking before, and subscribed to half a dozen dating sites

last time I punted was before I joined here, I'm more lonely than I am horny so punting is a bit of a double edged sword, takes the edge off horny wise but then reminds me how lonely I am

had 2 long term sugar babies, 1st one was mental, 2nd one was awesome but had to put a stop to it because I was falling for her :-(

I don't mean to be a leech here, haven't had a serious gf for 13 years and no idea how to fix that, nothing I try helps, I quite like the anonymity and lack of judgment here,

tynetunnel · « **Reply #128 on:** November 06, 2021, 08:03:41 pm »

Quote from: qwertyone on November 05, 2021, 08:40:47 pm

it's horrible to say it but I'm glad it's the same for others and it's not just me!

Exactly, it seems to be a similar experience for all of us on Secret Benefits. I’d wondered at first if it was just me and I was doing something wrong, sending shite messages, or had iffy photos - but having had loads of success on SA with very similar I figured it had to be them not me. So I’m reassured that it’s a common issue

Mr_Shins · « **Reply #129 on:** November 07, 2021, 01:44:25 pm »

The one I said I would "probably let go" has been.. Was after excessive demands. Goes by name "GirlWithRedCoat". Too young for me anyway.

qwertyone · « **Reply #130 on:** November 09, 2021, 09:16:24 pm »

Quote from: Mr_Shins on November 07, 2021, 01:44:25 pm

The one I said I would "probably let go" has been.. Was after excessive demands. Goes by name "GirlWithRedCoat". Too young for me anyway.

need a link - I can't see a way to search by user name?

I'm talking to one on WhatsApp and should be seeing her tomorrow, two others on WhatsApp were a waste of time, all one word answers etc.

pretty sure the one for tomorrow is mental, but only offer I've got so I'll give it a go

haven't logged onto secret in 3 days, logged on just now... zero new messages - no replies, no nothing :-o

Natwest · « **Reply #131 on:** November 10, 2021, 08:16:14 am »

As the guy who started this thread, I'll give a bit of a progress report. A caveat! I did end up using Secret Benefits after finding it impossible to re-instate a "Seeking Arrangements" account but also the appalling customer service, the hypocritical attitude and the ever rising costs over the last four years encouraged me to seek out alternatives.

Until I refined my methods as described in my original post, I did find it bloody expensive. However, complaints to Customer Service did on most occasions lead to refunds and my recent review on Trust Pilot resulted in all my costs being refunded almost since I started.

Putting that aside, after the first couple of purchases I was offered automatically 2000 credits for around £210. I checked my credit card statements and that went through on 11th June 2021. I have 1220 credits left so the last 5 months have cost me less than £100. That is ignoring they refunded me the £210 anyway if that makes sense! Perhaps better said, had they not refunded me, that is what it would have cost.

I do like the fact that being credit based I can turn my activity on and off depending on my mood. The numbers are small compared to "Seeking" but everyday I can see the handful of new SB's and I "favourite" as I see fit and wait to see. I have three semi regulars. One lives about 50 miles away and if I can be bothered to fetch her, she stays overnight for £200. My favourite regular drives about 45 miles to me and again stays overnight for £200. I have a "Pump and Dump" from 25 miles away I have to fetch who comes over for the afternoon for £120. They are all between 20 and 30, all fairly vanilla but I am divorced and it keeps me amused. It helps I live on my own of course.

I am now doing as well as I was on "Seeking" but I did find "Seeking" almost a full time job. Sometimes I felt it seemed value for money purely because the correspondence was action packed and full on all the time during the months subscription. Whether the results were any better I am not sure. I live in Cambridgeshire by the way so that is my hunting ground.

It's definitely slow and steady on "Secret Benefits" but it goes on in the background whereas a months subscription on "Seeking" felt like it took over my life for that month. I also haven't had anything off "Secret Benefits" for a while, but then it hasn't cost me anything. No doubt it is a waiting game but if you can get the hang of it, there are some quality girls and for me, it has been substantially cheaper, had I not got the refund it would have cost me about £20 per month. For that I have three regulars, one of which is a keeper and the other two suit my needs if feeling horny.

Would I go back on "Seeking" if I could. I would really resent giving them my custom again and I am not missing the frantic dash to make my months subscription count. Can't deny there are hundreds more girls on "Seeking" but it is a choice between making SD/SB a full time or very much a part time job.

Natwest · « **Reply #132 on:** November 10, 2021, 10:39:27 am »

I should also add that as my confidence has grown, mention of PPM and openly sexually explicit messages have caused no problems for me. It seems that this is not an issue.

Mr_Shins · « **Reply #133 on:** November 10, 2021, 11:35:58 am »

I met one from the site on Monday night. Beautiful and classy. On SB there are no rules about asking for things in the private chat, you are only not allowed to display this kind of information in your profile,

So I was able to tell this beautiful woman about my fetish before we met the first time and got the response "I could do that all night". Well it wasn't all night, we were together just over an hour having a dinner together. She's young, does have a day job but I feel she's capable of more and hasn't reached her level. We planned to meet more and do all kinds of things together, and I suggested to her that I'd give her more if we "went all the way" but she should only do that when she's ready and not just because she wants more money.

She turned up looking immaculate, and was wearing boots, just over the knee but classy. I got to feel them brushed up my leg multiple times. We had a sort-of friendly hug and kiss as we departed.

I guess that's what it's about.

Of course I can't tell you who this is, and she's ideally looking for just one (at any one time anyway) and certainly she's up to it with me, just that I have others in my life at present.

Mr_Shins · « **Reply #134 on:** November 10, 2021, 11:37:58 am »

The issue with a subscription that gets used up is you'd make lots of contacts but are you really going to be seeing all of them over that period?

Credit systems work far better because you find the best one and see her for a period of time, and if that ends, you go back for another one with the credits you still have.

All dating sites should work that way.

Natwest · « **Reply #135 on:** November 10, 2021, 11:50:32 am »

My only objection with the credit system which I have raised with their very friendly Customer Service, is that if a girl just writes "Hey" and you respond but never hear anything back but haven't given alternative contact details, you should be able to claim back your credits after 7 days. This is the way it works on "What's Your Price" and as I have pointed out, would end any accusations that they use "bots" to farm credits.

Mr_Shins · « **Reply #136 on:** November 10, 2021, 07:18:08 pm »

Quote from: Natwest on November 10, 2021, 11:50:32 am

My only objection with the credit system which I have raised with their very friendly Customer Service, is that if a girl just writes "Hey" and you respond but never hear anything back but haven't given alternative contact details, you should be able to claim back your credits after 7 days. This is the way it works on "What's Your Price" and as I have pointed out, would end any accusations that they use "bots" to farm credits.

On WYP you agree the amount you will give her at a meet before opening any conversation. In the end it's expensive but it gets me dates.

BN99 · « **Reply #137 on:** November 10, 2021, 11:07:45 pm »

Im curious about the WYP and what you mean by a date. Does the pre agresd fee normally get intimacy or do you have to negotiate after the initial date? Could you maybe give us some examples of how it has worked for you?

Mr_Shins · « **Reply #138 on:** November 10, 2021, 11:19:24 pm »

Quote from: BN99 on November 10, 2021, 11:07:45 pm

Im curious about the WYP and what you mean by a date. Does the pre agresd fee normally get intimacy or do you have to negotiate after the initial date? Could you maybe give us some examples of how it has worked for you?

The agreed fee is for the first date. I guess the higher that fee is though the more expectancy there will be for sex. As my initial meet-up has ranged from as low as £40 to the more common £75 up to more when I first started on the site, I'm definitely not expecting sex, and it's more of paying for company and where we go from there.

I generally use it as a dating site. What do I mean by a date? Well the woman I've been seeing (almost a proper relationship) for a while I met on that site. Plus the other one I'm seeing now plus a couple of others. The only one I had sex with, I had to ppm.

Carl Adams · « **Reply #139 on:** November 23, 2021, 10:42:07 pm »

I finally had a go at this and got a couple of likely contacts but nearly used up the 10 credits doing so - then logged on and there was an offer doubling the number of credits for the same money so bought 1000 (ie, 100 transactions). I have used up 40 of those.

Bit awkward as I am juggling a tinder girl who wants to be a keeper at the moment but I have two or three numbers to try out when I can but also a couple of out and out whores who are probably to be found on AW plus a couple more who think calling you "Daddy" means the next text can start rinsing you. Not in touch with any of those anymore.

And as ever in this sort of thing, one diamond - 19 year old (my first millennial) who was mad keen to combine a M&G with a visit to me and indeed cost me less than a tenner to take a 30 minute train trip. I picked her up from the local station and spent a couple of hours getting to know her in the shower and in bed - she was not up for full sex yet but as we had agreed £50 for an hour, it was hardly a letter to the complaints department. And especially when she showed off her deep throat skills - not requested but sloppy and sensational. She is petite, pretty and I have seen today that she has removed her details from SB so looking as if she is OK with me as a SD for the time being - maybe it was the £20 tip and McD's on the way to the station that swung it.

So I have become a bit more of a fan but think you have to invest to get a return.

Whiteknight · « **Reply #140 on:** November 24, 2021, 08:42:06 am »

Thanks OP

Great advices and info

Cunning Punt · « **Reply #141 on:** November 24, 2021, 09:14:46 am »

Quote from: Carl Adams on November 23, 2021, 10:42:07 pm

Bit awkward as I am juggling a tinder girl who wants to be a keeper at the moment

If you can manage to pull a girl on Tinder for free then not sure you're representative of a lot of the rest of us who get absolutely nowhere on that app because we are middle-aged, ordinary looking at best and have got fairly wobbly body parts.

PLeisure · « **Reply #142 on:** November 24, 2021, 06:13:57 pm »

Quote from: Mr_Shins on November 07, 2021, 01:44:25 pm

The one I said I would "probably let go" has been.. Was after excessive demands. Goes by name "GirlWithRedCoat". Too young for me anyway.

A profile with the same name joined Seeking today:
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Heph · « **Reply #143 on:** November 25, 2021, 03:30:28 am »

Quote from: standardpostage on June 28, 2021, 08:46:50 pm

Wow ! Longer than War And Peace

It was a useful insight, and the right response is gratitude

Carl Adams · « **Reply #144 on:** November 25, 2021, 10:15:25 am »

Quote from: Cunning Punt on November 24, 2021, 09:14:46 am

If you can manage to pull a girl on Tinder for free then not sure you're representative of a lot of the rest of us who get absolutely nowhere on that app because we are middle-aged, ordinary looking at best and have got fairly wobbly body parts.

Lol - or maybe I am less particular about having to have a FAF stunner every time?

Natwest · « **Reply #145 on:** November 25, 2021, 05:07:57 pm »

Quote from: Heph on November 25, 2021, 03:30:28 am

It was a useful insight, and the right response is gratitude

Thanks for picking up on that. I remember being pretty pissed off with that stupid comment at the time having spent hours putting the information together. Clearly trolling posts isn't a barrier to being a "Forum Helper".

Cunning Punt · « **Reply #146 on:** November 25, 2021, 06:25:02 pm »

Quote from: Carl Adams on November 25, 2021, 10:15:25 am

Lol - or maybe I am less particular about having to have a FAF stunner every time?

Nah, I swiped right on hundreds of very ordinary looking chubby girls on Tinder and still got nowhere.

Mr_Shins · « **Reply #147 on:** November 26, 2021, 10:13:54 am »

Tinder and swipe swipe nonsense is all about looks and not personality.

Yes I want to take out a girl who is reasonably good looking, i.e. not totally ugly. After that it's the way she behaves that makes the big difference.

A woman I can take out and even pamper but doesn't expect payment in addition on each date, and is just looking for casual dating, and isn't a drama queen is hard to find.

The woman I was seeing for a long while (and was living with me for much of it) may come close but is a bit too much of a drama queen for me, telling me she refuses to stand in line for the theatre if there is one and I'm expected to wait in the line and let her "jump in" in the last moment when I've reached the front... Also has a habit of flirting with all the men around telling them I'm "just a friend", and using her phone far too much - never mind she was also seeing other guys (although I was seeing other women too) - no I don't think she's "the one" I want to be taking out.

Shanks · « **Reply #148 on:** November 28, 2021, 08:45:40 am »

Excellent post NatWest , helpful and informative , just what this forum is all about.

Thanks very much for all the info by everyone on here

Just signed up for seeking

Just on a privacy point
Do you have to post a face pic on both sites ?

Also I note talk of a high subscription fees , I’m being offered £11.21 pm or £26.89 for 3 months at the moment , that seems cheap or am I missing something ?

One last thing , can you stop the subscriptions easy enough , I’ve had experiences where I had to stop my card on a similar site to stop transactions

Cunning Punt · « **Reply #149 on:** November 28, 2021, 12:40:25 pm »

Quote from: Shanks on November 28, 2021, 08:45:40 am

Just signed up for seeking

Just on a privacy point
Do you have to post a face pic on both sites ?

No, not on either. My advice is to post a public photo of yourself (or someone with similar chest to you) with the head cropped, so of your torso but clothed, eg in suit and tie. It is, though, a good idea to have a clear face and part body shot in private pictures to share with any girls who seem genuinely interested in an arrangement. This will maximise your chances of progressing to an arrangement as profiles with no clear face pic whatsoever appear dodgy.

Quote from: Shanks on November 28, 2021, 08:45:40 am

Also I note talk of a high subscription fees , I’m being offered £11.21 pm or £26.89 for 3 months at the moment , that seems cheap or am I missing something ?

Which site are you talking about - Seeking or Secret Benefits or another? Seeking is usually £95 a month including VAT and they are currently offering discounts of 25 and 33%, so £11 would be incredibly cheap and unheard of so I would be surprised you have been offered this, unless you have mistakenly created a female profile.

So are you talking about Secret Benefits? I've not paid up but that is a credit-based system, not subscription.

Quote from: Shanks on November 28, 2021, 08:45:40 am

One last thing , can you stop the subscriptions easy enough , I’ve had experiences where I had to stop my card on a similar site to stop transactions

On Seeking, it is more circuitous now but yes you can cancel and it's best to do that shortly after you've paid for a subscription so you don't forget. I can't comment on other sites. As I said, my understanding is that SB is a credit-based system so you just pay for a set number of credits and if you aren't happy with responses from girls on there, you can make a complaint as others have stated.

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