BB a surprising statistic.

[8MillionDollarMan]

Like all of us I never mention BB with an escort but one of the SPs I met this week reiterated sex was safe when we met even though that was clear on her profile.
I said of course,then she went on to say it's asked for quite a lot.
I asked for a % to which she said either before the meet or during it was 50% which I found shocking and went on to describe instances of condoms being pulled off during sex.
I found myself constantly checking the condom was on whilst we were going at it with some gusto,a surprising revelation even if her maths was out a little bit which I don't think it was.

[pythondan]

Interesting but I am not sure if it is really representative as, if the demand was that high, I think there would be more girls offering it openly.

I guess though that some girls must say yes if the question is asked so often,

In my punting career I have never been offered BB or even had hints that it is available.

[daviemac]

Like all of us I never mention BB with an escort but one of the SPs I met this week reiterated sex was safe when we met even though that was clear on her profile.
I said of course,then she went on to say it's asked for quite a lot.
I asked for a % to which she said either before the meet or during it was 50% which I found shocking and went on to describe instances of condoms being pulled off during sex.
I found myself constantly checking the condom was on whilst we were going at it with some gusto,a surprising revelation even if her maths was out a little bit which I don't think it was.

Of course it goes on, there's forums dedicated to it, as well as 'bug chaser' ones. Plus there's all kinds of weirdos out there, SPs wouldn't need the likes of UglyMugs, ClientEye and SAAFE if there wasn't.

All punters caa do is avoid known barebackers and look after their own sexual health.

[8MillionDollarMan]

All punters caa do is avoid known barebackers and look after their own sexual health.

 

[Coriniumstud]

Will you name her ?
So we can steer clear of her

[daviemac]

Will you name her ?
So we can steer clear of her

There's nothing in the OP's post to suggest anything other than the SP reiterated sex was safe and her saying she got asked quite often.

This is the danger of these types of threads, people often get the wrong idea and label people as barebackers when they aren't.

[8MillionDollarMan]

There's nothing in the OP's post to suggest anything other than the SP reiterated sex was safe and her saying she got asked quite often.

This is the danger of these types of threads, people often get the wrong idea and label people as barebackers when they aren't.

Yes you're right I thought it looked pretty clear she isn't a barebacker in fact quite the opposite.

[Strawberry]

Yes BB is asked for either at enquiry stage or within bookings, and I think many punters would struggle to not go through with it if it happened spur of the moment. Hasn't there been a thread on this recently, with STI concern? A short while ago a regular  client thought he was inside me unprotected, I nearly had a heart attack in shock. I genuinely do not have any unprotected intercourse in my life, including personal life. He did have a condom on, we'd had a little break for a few minutes he thought I'd removed the condom but I hadn't so it was still in place when we resumed.

So on that basis, plus off hand comments 'if we didn't use a condom I could stay hard and cum' (whilst pointing at his bare cock and my vagina) think given half a chance many would. Whether this is happening I do not know. All I can do is stick to my protocols.

[Strawberry]

Yes BB is asked for either at enquiry stage or within bookings, and I think many punters would struggle to not go through with it if it happened spur of the moment. Hasn't there been a thread on this recently, with STI concern? A short while ago a regular  client thought he was inside me unprotected, I nearly had a heart attack in shock. I genuinely do not have any unprotected intercourse in my life, including personal life. He did have a condom on, we'd had a little break for a few minutes he thought I'd removed the condom but I hadn't so it was still in place when we resumed.

So on that basis, plus off hand comments 'if we didn't use a condom I could stay hard and cum' (whilst pointing at his bare cock and my vagina) think given half a chance many would. Whether this is happening I do not know. All I can do is stick to my protocols.

Just to add the regular who thought he was inside me condomless, has never asked for, never mentioned, never 'accidentally almost' attempted BB in any way. Zero suggestion, zero movement in that direction and has never since. All those behaviours I list do however happen.

[Stevelondon]

Doesn’t matter how health conscious we are. Or how sensible to be honest.
There are a whole load of idiots out there who aren’t.

[jamiekinkxxx]

Doesn’t matter how health conscious we are. Or how sensible to be honest.
There are a whole load of idiots out there who aren’t.

As my father once told me, when he was teaching me to drive, way back when...

" son, remember you are only as good a driver as they one that drive into you!"

 

[Analist]

Like the majority here, I like oral unprotected and penetration with a condom and have no issues seeing an escort that offers BB under these conditions. What an escort does with others is not my business and cannot be monitored, all I can do is protect myself. Three observations from years of punting.
1. Once when I was young I caught a genital wart from oral despite using a condom for sex. So, unless you're protected for all sexual activity including kissing, don't fool yourself that you're STI proof.
2. I'm neither looking for nor asking for BB. Yet a number of escorts who don't offer it on their profile (including ones who vehemently state they are against BB) have said it's available when we meet. I politely decline but there must be others who accept.
3. I've had several occasions of inadvertent BB due to a condom breaking or slipping. Statistically unavoidable, only solution is for both of us to run off to the bathroom for a thorough wash.

[speedygonzal]

I think some things are better not to ask. At least you're happy to open Pandora's Box.

I am also surprised by the statistics every time I ask an escort a similar question. the way some people respon I concluded in the end many accept BB, although they claim in the profile to block you even if you ask for it. Maybe because they know that somepeople like me (Most) wouldn't even risk see them if they know they do BB.

[GreyDave]

  This pops up every now and again    Ive been Punting since the late 1970`s many of my punts right up till the Aids scare in the 80`s were BB it was great lets not kid ourselfs 

Those of us who were BB ing back then can probaly recall the Soho WGs using bidets right afer act many of the rooms had a bidet and sink at one end or off ....with the Aids and rubber up campain the Soho rooms got smaller as the wash was not done so often and the wet wipe was introduced Yuk before it was a paper towel  Yes like many Ive had the rubber break and the panic a few times worst ive had was damaged urthea  ( excess wanking to get hard ) and then urine infection made worse by drinking Pinapple and cranberry in effort to clear it ( Sugar  was problem ) And when in my mid 30s and looking a hell of a lot better than the old git I am now, I was asked to BB with a 40`s WG several times for my donation for a discount I did not but I still remember her and her tits
I rubber up every time now much to the disapointment of my little friend how ever the tit blast finish is a great relif of rubber tension for me these days
Right point is also there are WG s who BB with partners or some times with special clients its a worry for you guys out there that worry simple... This is why we call it Punting..

[gentlemanrpt83]

Don't be a fool; wrap up your tool.

[Slow grinder]

This pops up every now and again    Ive been Punting since the late 1970`s many of my punts right up till the Aids scare in the 80`s were BB it was great lets not kid ourselfs 

Those of us who were BB ing back then can probaly recall the Soho WGs using bidets right afer act many of the rooms had a bidet and sink at one end or off ....with the Aids and rubber up campain the Soho rooms got smaller as the wash was not done so often and the wet wipe was introduced Yuk before it was a paper towel  Yes like many Ive had the rubber break and the panic a few times worst ive had was damaged urthea  ( excess wanking to get hard ) and then urine infection made worse by drinking Pinapple and cranberry in effort to clear it ( Sugar  was problem ) And when in my mid 30s and looking a hell of a lot better than the old git I am now, I was asked to BB with a 40`s WG several times for my donation for a discount I did not but I still remember her and her tits
I rubber up every time now much to the disapointment of my little friend how ever the tit blast finish is a great relif of rubber tension for me these days
Right point is also there are WG s who BB with partners or some times with special clients its a worry for you guys out there that worry simple... This is why we call it Punting..

I'd forgotten about the little sinks..one 'tom',after a B&B session,back in the 70's I must add!..same d me to wash myself in the sink after sprinkling some purple crystals in the water..she used to swear that Pottasium Permanganate. were the best  things to use.!

[GreyDave]

I'd forgotten about the little sinks..one 'tom',after a B&B session,back in the 70's I must add!..same d me to wash myself in the sink after sprinkling some purple crystals in the water..she used to swear that Pottasium Permanganate. were the best  things to use.!

  Slow grinder your prob same sort of age ... as me the mid 70`s when I started as a young lad it was a tenner and 50p tip  I barebaked loads of WG`s and got washed by them in those sinks before and after by myself I remember there being loads of walk ups and diffrent types of WG`s now it seems to be the Rom`s domane Big busty Northern Lasses and Maltesse WGs with a mix of Exocitic Brown Bronze Olivie Black and Asian Ladies ...I saw one girl with 3 nipples (real size not a spot like that crappy singers wart) Girls with Areolas that covered their breasts almost completely and clits the size of pen tops big enough to suck on...

God things were really good then the AIDS thing happened and it scared the shit out of every one,,

[Fishermansfriend]

I can understand a punter asking about BB at the enquiry stage in order to flush out the girls who allow it even though their adverts say they don’t. This doesn’t necessarily mean the punter is interested in BB.

[Doc Holliday]

I can understand a punter asking about BB at the enquiry stage in order to flush out the girls who allow it even though their adverts say they don’t. This doesn’t necessarily mean the punter is interested in BB.

But the SP will probably interpret you asking as seeking it and block/refuse to see you. If she confirms BB is available then you in turn won't see her.

It's a pointless exercise, just assume every SP may be engaging in unprotected penetrative sex and protect yourself accordingly 

[KatieEdinburgh]

I can understand a punter asking about BB at the enquiry stage in order to flush out the girls who allow it even though their adverts say they don’t. This doesn’t necessarily mean the punter is interested in BB.

From ladies perspective, this is terrible advice do not do this  you’ll be reported amongst other SPs as asking for BB even when you don’t want it

[Strawberry]

From ladies perspective, this is terrible advice do not do this  you’ll be reported amongst other SPs as asking for BB even when you don’t want it

Absolutely very off putting, some even say they ask because they think I don't do it so I'll be safe. 

[mrwhite]

I'd forgotten about the little sinks..one 'tom',after a B&B session,back in the 70's I must add!..same d me to wash myself in the sink after sprinkling some purple crystals in the water..she used to swear that Pottasium Permanganate. were the best  things to use.!

That must have left some terrible skin stains - almost like fake tan gone wrong.

[GoodLookinGuy]

Interesting thread, the 50% statistic at the top of the thread is a real shocker to me. In my own experience in my 20+ years of doing this when I've enquired about "extras" I've only ever been offered BB once.

[8MillionDollarMan]

Interesting thread, the 50% statistic at the top of the thread is a real shocker to me. In my own experience in my 20+ years of doing this when I've enquired about "extras" I've only ever been offered BB once.

It's not the SPs suggesting BB it's 50% of the punters she told me,I don't know if anyone can corroborate this?

[Lilywhite]

It's not the SPs suggesting BB it's 50% of the punters she told me,I don't know if anyone can corroborate this?

I think I get about 1 enquiry every 6 months and I've never been asked in person. 

[chalkedmonkey]

I've had more than a few offer at the enquiry stage, obviously it's a straight nope from me.  Had it offered once during a punt, in between lots of oral and teasing.  I said no, and she seemed quite surprised as if that rarely happens.  Called me a 'good boy, sensible' but half condescending, half appreciative (was an older Asian bird).    No brainer for me, just not worth the risk.

[Strawberry]

I think I get about 1 enquiry every 6 months and I've never been asked in person. 

I probably encounter some mention of it be it at enquiry point or in person several times per month.

Sometimes it's not explicit, sometimes it's roundabout, sometimes it's wanting to ejaculate onto labia. Others times it is explicit.

[Lilywhite]

I probably encounter some mention of it be it at enquiry point or in person several times per month.

Sometimes it's not explicit, sometimes it's roundabout, sometimes it's wanting to ejaculate onto labia. Others times it is explicit.

Wow! I do wonder if it's because I don't take phonecalls or reply to emails without feedback? I've worked for 12 years and never been asked in person. Had people with 0 feedback ask via email, but as I said, it's rare.

I do notice A LOT of reverse bookings have it on now, though.

[KatieEdinburgh]

I do notice A LOT of reverse bookings have it on now, though.

Agreed. Up to a third of reverse bookings I’ve seen seem to look for it 

[Lilywhite]

Agreed. Up to a third of reverse bookings I’ve seen seem to look for it 

I add the names to my blocked list.

There's one guy who keeps putting them on for Scotland and I'm on his feedback for 2013. He did not ask for it then, and I hate that I'm associated with that feedback.

[KatieEdinburgh]

I add the names to my blocked list.

There's one guy who keeps putting them on for Scotland and I'm on his feedback for 2013. He did not ask for it then, and I hate that I'm associated with that feedback.

Yea that is sensible and ah, annoying I’m sure it’s fine tho. Especially if you’ve publicly said that on here no one is going to think you did x

[MissWolf]

I add the names to my blocked list.

There's one guy who keeps putting them on for Scotland and I'm on his feedback for 2013. He did not ask for it then, and I hate that I'm associated with that feedback.

It always amazes me and makes me a bit sad how many bids there are on them, I saw one the other day 800 for 2 hours with full BB and filming had over 20 bids ffs

I get a BB request by text or email very infrequently at home, I can only recall 3 or 4,  I get them occasionally on tour, Leicester being the worst for BB requests and threats of violence actually 

I do get them in the room in various guises, but not often, the usual ones are

It's OK I'm clean we don't need those
Oh I'm allergic to condoms
I can't get hard with a condom can we do it without
I just want to rub it on the outside before we put one on
Can I spunk over your pussy/cunt
Can we go bare I'm happy to pay a bit extra

I also get the chancers who like to go on top before they are rubbered up 'just to kiss and cuddle' and then dry hump and try and manoeuvre themselves into a position that allows them to rub etc, they fail every time and get told to get off.

I had a guy last week who was knelt in-between my legs playing with himself and thought it was OK to wipe the precum dripping off his cock with his finger and then go to use it to finger me........ummmm no mate 

[8MillionDollarMan]

Thanks SPs I think the lady I met was possibly over egging things a bit possibly because she's new,however she did say she had 3 incidences of condoms being taken off though.
I'll take the middle ground but I'm sure most SPs don't offer it I certainly never have been.

[Lilywhite]

Thanks SPs I think the lady I met was possibly over egging things a bit possibly because she's new,however she did say she had 3 incidences of condoms being taken off though.

If she's new and doesn't already know about SAAFE or EH you could maybe let her know so she can get info/warn others about these folks.

[GoodLookinGuy]

It's not the SPs suggesting BB it's 50% of the punters she told me,I don't know if anyone can corroborate this?

Yes I did understand that it was enquiries from punters. I'm aware there is a market for it and it does happen but with the sexual health aspect it really surprised me such a high percentage were willing to play Russian roulette. Especially knowing what a high percentage of punters are married or in a relationship, seems very risky to me. Risking health, relationship, possible very expensive and humiliating divorce.

[jimbobted]

The other side of this is some SPs implicitly or explicitly suggesting bare backing.
I had a reg(ish), now retired who got a bit carried away once and sat astride me after extensive foreplay and giving me OWO, making movements and words suggesting she wanted to ride me bare. After a few moments I told her to go and get a condom, but I admit I was tempted.
More recently I booked a girl for an overnight. Once we go down to action she had me lie back on the bed for some very good OWO. Then she climbed on top and started to try to put me inside her. "Err, what about a rubber?" "Oh, sorry babe I forgot to bring any. But I'm happy if you are, it's up to you".
Needless to say there was no penetration and I just had another blowjob and went to sleep.
Fucking expensive blowjob that was! 

[Alexmck]

The other side of this is some SPs implicitly or explicitly suggesting bare backing.
I had a reg(ish), now retired who got a bit carried away once and sat astride me after extensive foreplay and giving me OWO, making movements and words suggesting she wanted to ride me bare. After a few moments I told her to go and get a condom, but I admit I was tempted.
More recently I booked a girl for an overnight. Once we go down to action she had me lie back on the bed for some very good OWO. Then she climbed on top and started to try to put me inside her. "Err, what about a rubber?" "Oh, sorry babe I forgot to bring any. But I'm happy if you are, it's up to you".
Needless to say there was no penetration and I just had another blowjob and went to sleep.
Fucking expensive blowjob that was! 

Will power and thinking with the right head!

Hasn't come up for me for several years. Guess I'm losing my good looks, six pack or whatever it is that brings it up 

[southcoastpunter]

More recently I booked a girl for an overnight. Once we go down to action she had me lie back on the bed for some very good OWO. Then she climbed on top and started to try to put me inside her. "Err, what about a rubber?" "Oh, sorry babe I forgot to bring any. But I'm happy if you are, it's up to you".
Needless to say there was no penetration and I just had another blowjob and went to sleep.
Fucking expensive blowjob that was! 

rookie mistake on your part Jim - i would always take/have a couple in case she had "only one" trying to minimise the number of times you can have sex! For an all night meet, i would make sure i had 3!

[johnd80]

Like all of us I never mention BB with an escort but one of the SPs I met this week reiterated sex was safe when we met even though that was clear on her profile.
I said of course,then she went on to say it's asked for quite a lot.
I asked for a % to which she said either before the meet or during it was 50% which I found shocking and went on to describe instances of condoms being pulled off during sex.
I found myself constantly checking the condom was on whilst we were going at it with some gusto,a surprising revelation even if her maths was out a little bit which I don't think it was.

I think 90% of  escorts do not have any kind of STD as they are always engaged in protected sex. Couple of time I had accidental penetraion without condom as it has fallen off and we both were not aware of it.It did not make me any concern as most of those girls are healthy.

[uncle jessie]

I see that the house of poitier have a BB event coming up soon so there must be plenty of idiots willing to risk it .