Where have they all gone? Is it OnlyFans fault?

[southcoastpunter]

I believe that like most markets - this one runs on cycles.

The girls will return. I’ve been monitoring AW in south Devon and it’s a desert. Onlyfans (never paid for anything digital) is here to stay but not all girls have the talent needed to compete. However those might suit sex work fine.

i hope you are right but i don't think so. some things have changed that gives the ladies so many more options than before.

I think you’ll find that girls over exaggerate how much OF earns them in order to market themselves. In reality it’s a pittance compared to escorting.

like most things like this, its a mindset. They think they can make money from it. a few do and they think they can be one of them, And they think they can make money from things like being an influencer on FB, Instagram, tiktok etc and actually its not difficult to make some money from it. And of course there are other forms of camming, not just OF such as myfreecams.

Again from any of these its not too hard to make a few hundred quid per month and most of these ladies are looking for a "top up" income rather than a replacement income - ie it can help make their life a bit financial easier without having to go into Escorting. Amongst the younger age groups, doing things like OF is considered OK/acceptable whilst Escorting is still mainly not!

[jesse4585]

WGs been saying cost of living has hit a lot of punters. Punters don't have much disposable cash as before. Most WGs have moved on to getting fulltime jobs & punting part time or on their day off

This is likely a major reason in many parts of the country. There's been talk on the WG forum of dusty phones for lasses who used to do well before CoL crisis set in.  For some making a living on AW is a big hassle, with only a small pool of decent paying punters in the area.

OP is right though blaming tech for the dearth of good british lasses on AW, though there's more than one tech cause.

OnlyFans is probably quite minor, as others are saying only the elite few seem to make good money on it, data suggests average earnings are low.  As the good Vice Admiral says, some lasses have likely 'cracked the code'  and found  better ways to make money on online from Simps & White Knights - but this is likely only be supporting a fairly small number of lasses.  When any hussle becomes widely known, too many cash seekers pile in for it to stay lucrative. There's far more white knights out there than many here  would like to think, but they're still a limited quantity.

Another way tech is spoiling things is social media.  Young women in particular can experience that as a constant judging force watching over them, making them less likely to want to make a living from prostitution  (even though being a WG may in some ways meet less disapproval as was the case in the past. )  Seeking on the other hand seems much less frowned on, even years ago I was hearing reports it's widely discussed as an option on university campuses.

Going back to Maak's point about punter cash, here in London there a constant stream of new lasses to try. (Admittedly most of them are not british, but some of them are). Has to be mainly due to the concentration of punter cash here.  Many of these lasses are agency only.  According to a new London WG I punted last year, as soon as she appeared on AW she had several agencies offering to find work for her, one even saying they'd provide a chauffeur.  Perhaps agencies are snapping up some of the best AW talent from elsewhere in UK too.

There's talk of the economy rebalancing away from London & when that happens, that might improve punting prospects for rest of UK.

[Curious CP]

Its a sad state of affairs that alongside almost every other sector of the economy finding decent british workers has got increasingly challenging in the punting community.

Can merely dream of the halcyon days of the 90's/00s when so many great looking british SPs were available to choose from. Those days will never return but in the last few years the last vestiges of a domestic market seems to be drying up entirely. Its completely ridiculous that british service providers seem to be rare has hens teeth now on AW is it crap like onlyfans and other social media to blame giving access to alternate income streams without even leaving their bedrooms?

At this time of year when the female form is so much more visibly on display the itch really needs scratching with someone who is fluent in English and decently turned out with the safety of a professional transaction to avoid complications but seems this is another facet of life ruined by modern technology.

This is post hits the nail firmly on the head


I am in my mid 70's have been "punting" since the first days of Massage Parlours in the mid 1970's.
Cyber Whoring has firmy taken hold, rip-off  so called providers sitting at home or in a Studio provided by the only people who actually get to handle the goods. Punters who waste unimaginable amounts on cash on these scammers are only fuelling and encouraging further growth on this deadful so called service, from an early age as soon as they realise men like to look, they are on the internet offering everything, giving nothing and coining it in..........so sad.

[KatieEdinburgh]

..........so sad.

Sad for you perhaps, but hardly sad for the women who manage to make a living that way.
And some men who prefer online services do exist as well. Less risky for them I imagine.

You are implying that cammers don’t work for that money when you say they “offer everything, giving nothing” but I’m here to tell you online services can be hard work both physically and emotionally as it’s certainly not easy money either 

[paul_tall_]

This is post hits the nail firmly on the head


I am in my mid 70's have been "punting" since the first days of Massage Parlours in the mid 1970's.
Cyber Whoring has firmy taken hold, rip-off  so called providers sitting at home or in a Studio provided by the only people who actually get to handle the goods. Punters who waste unimaginable amounts on cash on these scammers are only fuelling and encouraging further growth on this deadful so called service, from an early age as soon as they realise men like to look, they are on the internet offering everything, giving nothing and coining it in..........so sad.

Don't forget before the internet there was premium rate phone lines, probably still exist to some extent, at least the guys that now use web cam services can actually see the person at the other end rather than someone who just has a voice and probably was doing her ironing or knitting at the same time.

Markets exist for everyone , if they are happy so be it

[sensualencounter]

Sad for you perhaps, but hardly sad for the women who manage to make a living that way.
And some men who prefer online services do exist as well. Less risky for them I imagine.

You are implying that cammers don’t work for that money when you say they “offer everything, giving nothing” but I’m here to tell you online services can be hard work both physically and emotionally as it’s certainly not easy money either 

I completely agree with you. I know a few people who do online sex work and it’s really not money for old rope. Some people strike it lucky, others don’t. But generally those that make the big money work incredibly hard for it and use their own unique attributes to create a unique niche for themselves.

It’s a recurring theme here with many punters complaining that things aren’t as cheap, things aren’t as good. If it’s not bemoaning escorts for being lazy tax dodgers charging too much, it’s bemoaning online sex workers. Lots of rose tinted glasses if I’m being generous or bitter resentment if I’m being more honest and open.

Sex is not a right and yet so many seem to think it is 

[dubs]

There are definitely fewer Eastern European girls around now.  I don't miss the Roms but there were some gorgeous Polish and Hungarians working.  I expect many returned home due to the pandemic and the "B" word has made it mode difficult for them to travel and work here, as well as affecting the exchange rate so it is not as lucrative to earn in £££'s and then convert to €€€'s to send home.

There seems to be more South Americans that have replaced them, Brazilians mainly, but their English isn't great.

[jesse4585]

Sad for you perhaps, but hardly sad for the women who manage to make a living that way.
And some men who prefer online services do exist as well. Less risky for them I imagine.

You are implying that cammers don’t work for that money when you say they “offer everything, giving nothing” but I’m here to tell you online services can be hard work both physically and emotionally as it’s certainly not easy money either 

Like SensualEncounter I also completely agree with this. As a man I dont really understand the reasons, but one often hears webcamming is ultra stressfull for some lasses.  I'd go maybe further & say overall it's women who are losing out from these tech trends more than men.

Possibly few here would want to consider this, but while tech has been making things more difficult for several types of men - e.g. many non London punters,  and even more so for some who can't afford (or wont pay for sex on principle) like Incels,   women are having a harder time of it overall.

This shows up in all sorts of data , e.g. this major report where young women are making far more suicide attempts than young men: External Link/Members Only  As a bloke in my 50s I have several mates & colleagues with teenagers, and it's always the girls who are really struggling.

The bright side is that these trends can't possibly keep continuing to get worse, things have to change one way or another, and possibly in a way that will see a return to relatively cheap & quality UK punting like some of us old timers remember from our youth.

[hendrix]

Sad for you perhaps, but hardly sad for the women who manage to make a living that way.
And some men who prefer online services do exist as well. Less risky for them I imagine.

You are implying that cammers don’t work for that money when you say they “offer everything, giving nothing” but I’m here to tell you online services can be hard work both physically and emotionally as it’s certainly not easy money either 

Spot on.

I really enjoy OF, camming etc *along* with punting. The providers I'm happy to pay for put a hell of a lot of effort into constantly creating new content, running livestreams, taking custom requests etc. It ain't easy that's for sure. Anybody that is lazy won't last long, which is true of any kind of work.

[Curious CP]

Sad for you perhaps, but hardly sad for the women who manage to make a living that way.
And some men who prefer online services do exist as well. Less risky for them I imagine.

You are implying that cammers don’t work for that money when you say they “offer everything, giving nothing” but I’m here to tell you online services can be hard work both physically and emotionally as it’s certainly not easy money either 

Please remember the Welsh girl Chloe Love  (Amy Gregory) from Ponty who took her own life January 2021 on her brthday, the internet causes more harm than good, mental health issues among cyber whores is rife, sole sexual interaction is depressing and damaging.

[sensualencounter]

Please remember the Welsh girl Chloe Love  (Amy Gregory) from Ponty who took her own life January 2021 on her brthday, the internet causes more harm than good, mental health issues among cyber whores is rife, sole sexual interaction is depressing and damaging.

You make a very good point here. But then why have you been so disparaging and disrespectful on this previous post?

This is post hits the nail firmly on the head


I am in my mid 70's have been "punting" since the first days of Massage Parlours in the mid 1970's.
Cyber Whoring has firmy taken hold, rip-off  so called providers sitting at home or in a Studio provided by the only people who actually get to handle the goods. Punters who waste unimaginable amounts on cash on these scammers are only fuelling and encouraging further growth on this deadful so called service, from an early age as soon as they realise men like to look, they are on the internet offering everything, giving nothing and coining it in..........so sad.

You have sympathy for all the mental stresses this work can bring and rightly so but previously said they are rip offs, scammers, it’s a dreadful so called service and that they are giving nothing and coining it in. First of all, that’s a very sweeping statement but secondly it’s exactly the sort of rhetoric that fuels potential mental health issues.

[hendrix]

Please remember the Welsh girl Chloe Love  (Amy Gregory) from Ponty who took her own life January 2021 on her brthday, the internet causes more harm than good, mental health issues among cyber whores is rife, sole sexual interaction is depressing and damaging.

It can be, as can actual sex with deranged, obsessive and dangerous punters. Many WG's have committed suicide. Many girls feel safer providing virtual services and I don't blame them.

[diver ted]

Its a sad state of affairs that alongside almost every other sector of the economy finding decent british workers has got increasingly challenging in the punting community....

TLDR Reduction in Brit SPs; Reduction in all SPs; Reduction in Pay/Savings; Increase in all costs; I'll be spending now!
 
Where have they gone?
Swathes of EU citizens have left the UK and returned to their home nations affecting the public/private sector – vacancies in NHS, Education and industries such as seasonal fruit picking etc. It’s highly likely this exodus will have included many SPs. Many roles therefore attracting better rates of pay and providing alternative employment to potential British SPs. Migration to platforms such as OF etc. may also have contributed.

UK Inflation at appx 10% means cost of punting will increase over the next 12 months. Pay increases and interest rates on savings will be below inflation, reducing spending power.
In simple terms, if you’ve got £100 spare this week for an SP that charges £100 for a punt it works; next year you’ll only have £90 spare, and the same SP will now be charging £110.
It may not be as stark as this - balancing of demand and supply, but the gap will increase and continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
   
SP migrants from other countries may well also be less inclined to visit and stay in the UK as the gap between any potentially poorer economy in their own country and that of the deteriorating UK economy will reduce. Travel here to earn better money will be less attractive and less viable for many.

I intend to punt as much as I can manage currently before these external events reduce my available funds and increase the costs of punting. It may take some time as a punting hiatus has caused a backlog to my ever-expanding Hot List…
Female      145   138 (1 France; 1 Germany)
Couple      18   17
Trans      34
Misc       7
Whatever you decide is for you, the best of luck with it.

[thundercrackerxx]

Where I live all the UK escorts are over weigh, over priced and over 30. Covered in scribble with silicon stuffed in every orifice. Right state.
No point even bothering with european girls. Awful attitude, untouchable breasts and often fake pics/bait and switch.

[Will2k]

Also worth remembering is that the overall labor market has hundreds if not thousands of vacant positions.

[Curious CP]

Legalise Brothels in the UK and ban rip off, fake looking and scamming cyber whores.

[southcoastpunter]

Legalise Brothels in the UK and ban rip off, fake looking and scamming cyber whores.

yea. like that is going to happen!

[hendrix]

Legalise Brothels in the UK and ban rip off, fake looking and scamming cyber whores.

I mean, if you've been dumb enough to get scammed by cyber sex workers that's on you.

[daviemac]

Legalise Brothels in the UK and ban rip off, fake looking and scamming cyber whores.

You seem to have some sort of fixation with 'scamming cyber whores', you mention them quite often. It's a pity you haven't put as much effort into posting a review since your one and only one almost 5 years ago.

[big-al93]

Legalise Brothels in the UK and ban rip off, fake looking and scamming cyber whores.

You do realise that legalised brothels would be nothing that hardly any punter or SP would actually endorse? There would have to be far too many rules and regulations, many of them well meaning but failing in application. OWO would probably be deemed too risky ect ad infinitum.
IMHO the best change the law could make is to alter current laws that says 2 or more independant escorts working from the same premises is a brothel, and make it 100% legal for escorts to form a working arrangement for safety reasons.

[Doc Holliday]

Just spotted this and watched it. Touches on some of the issues discussed here, but is based primarily around people losing their jobs when found out. The significance of this is the majority of people on OnlyFans are only supplementing their regular income so are taking a big risk. There are some featured making ridiculous money, but they are a tiny percentage. Does also give some relevant data.

It also touches on the fact whilst we often say on here that sex work has become more socially acceptable due to the likes of OnlyFans, it maybe hasn't?

External Link/Members Only

Yes it's Channel 4 and is voyeuristic in nature and so takes great delight in featuring shots of sex toys and 30" tentacles!!

[Malvolio]

You do realise that legalised brothels would be nothing that hardly any punter or SP would actually endorse? There would have to be far too many rules and regulations, many of them well meaning but failing in application. OWO would probably be deemed too risky ect ad infinitum.
IMHO the best change the law could make is to alter current laws that says 2 or more independant escorts working from the same premises is a brothel, and make it 100% legal for escorts to form a working arrangement for safety reasons.

I certainly endorse it - I like the sauna scene up in Edinburgh and it would be great if there were places like that in London where you can wander in without a booking, spend some time talking to the WGs and then make your choice.

[wristjob]

You do realise that legalised brothels would be nothing that hardly any punter or SP would actually endorse? There would have to be far too many rules and regulations, many of them well meaning but failing in application. OWO would probably be deemed too risky ect ad infinitum.
IMHO the best change the law could make is to alter current laws that says 2 or more independant escorts working from the same premises is a brothel, and make it 100% legal for escorts to form a working arrangement for safety reasons.

I think I'd have disagreed with you years back but now it's spot on. There would probably be positives like mandatory testing but there would probably be huge amounts of BS. Most likelycity and guilds so they know what a dick is (within 10 years it would be a degree course to be a hooker) then probably reports on each customer, demographics cos you don't want racist WGs, limits to how many customers per week, wearing nitrile gloves cos health and safety. Brothels would probably have to have trained first aiders, fire wardens and official complains procedures. It would become a bureaucratic nightmare like just about every other industry.

[righthandman]

I wonder if OF has filled a vacuum of men/people who aren't prepared to do a face to face punt, but want something a bit more than connectionless porn. You can directly interact with the girls etc. And for a provider, OF/camming and making a living is more graft, but you're in more control and don't have to deal with randoms day in day out.

Still, someone mentioned these things come in waves/cycles. OF might be a gateway drug to full punting, which will create more demand, which could drive higher prices, which will bring in more SPs? It's the world's oldest industry. OF is great but it will never beat the real thing.

Anyway, in a few year's time we'll be talking about the best model of hyper realistic sex doll to buy instead

[Vice Admiral]

I wonder if OF has filled a vacuum of men/people who aren't prepared to do a face to face punt, but want something a bit more than connectionless porn.

I think you're right.  Only Fans and various webcamming options (including Adult Work’s) offer personal interaction of a sort, and are therefore a kind of half-way-house between the facelessness of pornography and the full face-to-face of prostitution.

I’m not sure about "filling a vacuum", though (oo-er, missus).  I suspect that, for a lot of men, webcamming and pornography have in fact become a replacement for punting.  Less expense, less hassle, similar end-result.

Still, someone mentioned these things come in waves/cycles. OF might be a gateway drug to full punting, which will create more demand, which could drive higher prices, which will bring in more SPs.

That's the $10,000 question, which has been much debated on this board.  Here I disagree with you.  I belong to the “the party’s over” constituency.  Mainstream prostitution (Adult Work etc) is now increasingly the preserve of foreigners and older British escorts.  If young British women are doing real-world sex for money, it is usually through sugar daddy sites and so on.  I don’t think that's going to change.  Others may disagree.

Anyway, in a few year's time we'll be talking about the best model of hyper realistic sex doll to buy instead

And indeed all kinds of virtual reality so-called “sex”.  It’s a depressing thought.

[billybobsmith]

A lot of these cammers are probably charging more for say 1/2 an hour than it would cost to go and fuck the girl in the first place (or sit in the same room and watch her do things to herself)

Sex dolls I can't really see taking off unless they reach the levels of those in the film A.I.: Artificial Intelligence (Jude Law etc.) or the Bruce Willis film "Surrogates".

Virtual scenarios are more likely.  Goggles, although not quite Star Trek holodecks yet!

Also expecting a lot of A.I. generated "women" to eventually appear (assuming they haven't already).  Most of us won't be able to tell that's it's not a real person.
(90s film called "Simone" did this sort of thing)

I still prefer the real thing, but even then, it's a toss up as to whether I want to possibly throw £150 down the drain or just have a wank over some porn or whatever.
I've said before that I only subscribed to an OF account belonging to a girl who lived a couple of miles away.  Curiosity more than anything, and a possible turn on knowing you could bump into her whilst shopping, a night out etc.  She was on SA (still has her account), but never responded to me.


It might be useful if some here, who know a lot of women off SA, ask them why they've stopped being active on the site, or get them to find out from friends at Uni etc.

[OneRed]

The increases in Tax Credits likely to of made a difference? Maybe many of the girls are now so well of living on welfare they just do not need the extra ££

[daviemac]

The increases in Tax Credits likely to of made a difference? Maybe many of the girls are now so well of living on welfare they just do not need the extra ££

Can you provide evidence of this?   

[sensualencounter]

The increases in Tax Credits likely to of made a difference? Maybe many of the girls are now so well of living on welfare they just do not need the extra ££

Yet another load of crap trotted out. But even if this were true how come it’s always women / escorts on the dole, sponging, not paying tax? Don’t blokes ever do the same?

This and the other thread about escorts’ pricing / worth is really just bitter resentment. Sadly so many punters seem to think that they’re entitled to a woman’s body at a price of their choosing.

[daviemac]

The increases in Tax Credits likely to of made a difference? Maybe many of the girls are now so well of living on welfare they just do not need the extra ££

This is the second time you have posted this crap, now provide the evidence to substantiate your claims.

[londonman]

Again from any of these its not too hard to make a few hundred quid per month and most of these ladies are looking for a "top up" income rather than a replacement income - ie it can help make their life a bit financial easier without having to go into Escorting. Amongst the younger age groups, doing things like OF is considered OK/acceptable whilst Escorting is still mainly not!

I think your "top up" point is spot on. It'll be a tempting proposition for the lady - perhaps spend a bit of time with the boyfriend putting together some content, put it up on the website and watch the cash roll in whilst she can get on with the day job. Of course, for almost all creators, it won't be anywhere near as straightforward as that.

[Trex]

Where have they all gone? Is it OnlyFans fault?

Not really, don’t know why people blaming Onlyfans for it. Before Onlyfans became big, girls were selling content on Adultwork private gallery and movies. Also webcamming was popular back in 2010s and some girls where making 6 figures doing that.

Things that really hurt this punting scene is

Brexit- less Polish girls and Hungarian girls coming here.

Covid 19- lockdowns and waiting to get vaccinated. So girls decided to find something else.

Cost of living- punters are spending less now because of it.

So now you know why all of them are gone

[big-al93]

I certainly endorse it - I like the sauna scene up in Edinburgh and it would be great if there were places like that in London where you can wander in without a booking, spend some time talking to the WGs and then make your choice.

But that's kind of my point, the saunas are not legal brothels, they simply operate and work with cooperation from the council and police, either of which could decide not to cooperate going forward, unlikely as they would not want to see an increase in street prostitution, which as far as I am aware is virtually non existant in Edinburgh. Other councils in Scotland ended the saunas in other towns. The saunas have a licence but I believe it is simply an adult entertainment licence, and I believe there is pressure for these to be if not revoked, not renewed.

But if there was a legal right to run a brothel, it would have to be licensed and therefore there would have to be a set of rules and regulations created and adhered to, which would likely put an end to things like cim, anal, probably even OWO. Costs would rise attempting to comply and that would push up prices across the board, which we would all start moaning about.

[Malvolio]

In that scenario there's no way of policing what acts take place between consenting adults in a private room.

[redneon]

Only Fans and various webcamming options (including Adult Work’s) offer personal interaction of a sort, and are therefore a kind of half-way-house between the facelessness of pornography and the full face-to-face of prostitution.

I suspect that, for a lot of men, webcamming and pornography have in fact become a replacement for punting.  Less expense, less hassle, similar end-result.

I belong to the “the party’s over” constituency.  Mainstream prostitution (Adult Work etc) is now increasingly the preserve of foreigners and older British escorts.  If young British women are doing real-world sex for money, it is usually through sugar daddy sites and so on.  I don’t think that's going to change.  Others may disagree.

You still get younger British girls in strip clubs, usually students or girls with few prospects but they would see escorting as beneath them. They can still potentially make decent money in a club while benefitting from the no-touch policy and not having their face plastered online as a sex worker. Some would just see Onlyfans as an extension of their work though, just depends on how much they value their privacy.

At any rate, it's rare that you'll find a young (and hot) British WG as they're usually more well-off or taken care of by men in their social and family circles, and in my opinion, high entitlement is also a factor just like with American and Canadian girls.

[magnetico]

Prostitutes cannot just switch to OnlyFans as it would be their coming out as a sex worker.

You cannot make money on onlyfans and keep your anonymous status.
Your face becomes part of the Internet public record.
OnlyFans girls have to advertise themselves on all the social medias in order to get new subscribers.

[RandomGuy99]

Prostitutes cannot just switch to OnlyFans as it would be their coming out as a sex worker.

You cannot make money on onlyfans and keep your anonymous status.
Your face becomes part of the Internet public record.
OnlyFans girls have to advertise themselves on all the social medias in order to get new subscribers.

But wouldn't they just work on OnlyFans under a different name that has no connection to their escorting business?

Who is going to know especially if you target the US market?

[southcoastpunter]

Prostitutes cannot just switch to OnlyFans as it would be their coming out as a sex worker.

You cannot make money on onlyfans and keep your anonymous status.
Your face becomes part of the Internet public record.
OnlyFans girls have to advertise themselves on all the social medias in order to get new subscribers.

as i have mentioned before, from chatting to a number of younger ladies (18-28ish), OF is generally considered "acceptable" to do without any stigma attached to it (as is being a SB) whereas other "sex" activities such as being a WG is not. so its not a "problem" to them.  (and yes making a lot of money from the likes of OF is a very different and difficult thing)

[magnetico]

RandomGuy/SouthCoastPunter,
By "sex worker" i was referring to their onlyfans activities.
There's indeed way less stigma to do OF versus being a WG,
but it's impossible to get a normal job or life after having your pussy all over the Internet.
Most onlyfans pics/videos are mirrored for life on various websites

All the girls making a living from onlyfans are doing fully nude content (exception : existing celebs)

[gentlemanrpt83]

Seems to be mostly romanians and brazillians
 Yuck

[Southernbloke]

I have tried OF but it really doesn’t do it for me. I will always prefer a one to one encounter in real life as opposed to sitting having a wank like a teenager. My experience was that you only got any conversation from the creators when the subscription was about to expire ( big surprise 😆) .
I would always prefer to have actual sex with an escort as opposed to wank on my own

[simon07]

Problem is the supply side.

Another issue is how do you bank cash?
One option is to be/pose as an independent beautician or hairdresser and this part time job has added value.

[Trex]

I used to use OF during middle of the pandemic around 2021. I thought I can subscribe and ask them to meet up but it’s against T&C and OF block words like escort and escorting etc. so for that reason I stop using it.

[Southernbloke]

I used to use OF during middle of the pandemic around 2021. I thought I can subscribe and ask them to meet up but it’s against T&C and OF block words like escort and escorting etc. so for that reason I stop using it.

I always found that most girls put absolutely everything behind paywalls which they don’t tell you about until you have subscribed also I found that you subscribe and then they take everything off their page. Horrible scammers the lot of them in my opinion

[Bond]

Problem is the supply side.

Another issue is how do you bank cash?
One option is to be/pose as an independent beautician or hairdresser and this part time job has added value.

I think you have hit the nail on the head. I think that the general awkwardness there is nowadays in spending and depositing cash is deterring some/many would be WGs from taking on such work.

[fed24]

Its a sad state of affairs that alongside almost every other sector of the economy finding decent british workers has got increasingly challenging in the punting community.

Can merely dream of the halcyon days of the 90's/00s when so many great looking british SPs were available to choose from. Those days will never return but in the last few years the last vestiges of a domestic market seems to be drying up entirely. Its completely ridiculous that british service providers seem to be rare has hens teeth now on AW is it crap like onlyfans and other social media to blame giving access to alternate income streams without even leaving their bedrooms?

At this time of year when the female form is so much more visibly on display the itch really needs scratching with someone who is fluent in English and decently turned out with the safety of a professional transaction to avoid complications but seems this is another facet of life ruined by modern technology.

To go back to the original post I also remember the halcyon days of 90s/00s punting when there was a wide and sizeable range of native an international Prostitutes charging fairly reasonable prices. People have brought up some interesting factors including services like Onlyfans and inflation...even the minimum wage. I would add the hostile environment when it comes to immigration in particular the clamp down on International language schools that were effectively acting as a front for mainly South East Asian Escorts to get Education visas to come and work here as Prostitutes.

Nevertheless there is another factor which I think is very important that you are all missing and that is "Retention in Education", if you swing back to the 90s a significant number of girls (and boys) left education when they finished secondary school. A good proportion of those native poorly educated young woman then went into Prostitution as an easy way to make money. Starting in the late 90s and going onto the 00s a significant amount of money was spent by successive governments to keep young people in education post secondary school and either push them into College then University or Vocational training. Money was/is being paid direct to the young people to stay in education and then either go into a middle class profession or a trade like hair dressing. You also tangentially saw a fall in native young woman getting pregnant and even if they did financial resource has been directed at them to stay in education then enter the workforce. Negating the need to look towards prostitution to support a child. This has resulted in the pool of young people entering prostitution to shrink.

For those still looking at the sex trade as a side gig camming and Onlyfans is far easier to work around their College study/further education and now most young people have their own bank account that only they can access electronic payments are easier to manage then cash in hand discretely.

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I think you have hit the nail on the head. I think that the general awkwardness there is nowadays in spending and depositing cash is deterring some/many would be WGs from taking on such work.

It's that plus soaring property prices imo, you have to work for longer to cover the rent for the place where you work from, and with additional KYC style checks its harder for someone in the informal sector to rent in the first place.

The supply of English girls was already drying up in the 00s, especially in city centres, we just didn't notice as much because of the influx of EE girls - who were often willing to live in the same places they worked as they were typically only over for a short period of time.  Anyone who punted across the decades will tell you that the average punting venue has become more cramped and more likely to be shared over that period.