Declining numbers of SPs

[Pennine Rover]

I've had the same two saved searches of AW for some years.  One is a 25 mile radius and the other is my country.  I have found that a few girls don't enter a Post Code so any show up on the county search.
I have found a gradual decline in numbers on both searches in recent years. I am in a typical Middle England area, with very low unemployment but with lots of low paid jobs in tourism.  In the last few month most of the Roms have gone, not doubt related to a Rom couple being sent down at the end of last year. Thais seems to come on waves and move on every couple of weeks. There are only a couple at the moment.
Overall on both searches there is a 25% to 30% drop in numbers from say 2018.  There are fewer tourers no doubt due to high accommodation costs.   There are also fewer new local girls coming into the profession.  At the same time the girls are getting older. Relatively few girls saying they are under 30 - and some some who have bene 29 for a while.
Have others noticed the same trends?

[RandomGuy99]

Might be true.

The economy hasn't been great, so perhaps less trade for the SPs especially during the winter period when SSs' bills may be higher, so less spare cash to spend on sex. It might pickup in the spring. and summer.

UK rentals, food, energy, fuel prices. have also increased a lot so SPs are probably making less profit. It's also harder to find decent rental properties.

Also impacted by Brexit and the bad economy meaning life in Britain hasn't been as good as in previous years.

[scutty brown]

What you're missing is that the number of adverts on Vivastreet has tripled in the last four years.
The changes AW made to ID verification have pushed girls to other platforms

[puntingking]

I've had the same two saved searches of AW for some years.  One is a 25 mile radius and the other is my country.  I have found that a few girls don't enter a Post Code so any show up on the county search.
I have found a gradual decline in numbers on both searches in recent years. I am in a typical Middle England area, with very low unemployment but with lots of low paid jobs in tourism.  In the last few month most of the Roms have gone, not doubt related to a Rom couple being sent down at the end of last year. Thais seems to come on waves and move on every couple of weeks. There are only a couple at the moment.
Overall on both searches there is a 25% to 30% drop in numbers from say 2018.  There are fewer tourers no doubt due to high accommodation costs.   There are also fewer new local girls coming into the profession.  At the same time the girls are getting older. Relatively few girls saying they are under 30 - and some some who have bene 29 for a while.
Have others noticed the same trends?

Maybe Sps don't use aw anymore. You seem to be from the North west but in London according to google there is about 32,000 sps.

I googled uk sex workers population it said we have around 72,000.

I also googled other countries that are known to be sex workers hot spots. Netherlands was lower than the UK aswell as Greece but Spain and Germany are much higher. Compared to the world - india, china and Japan has the most in the world.

Just google a country of your choice and then ask "what is the sex worker population in ...." to find out.

On the face of it, it may appear that the UK sex workers population have decrease but it appears not and if it has, Not massively so compared to other nearby countries per sex worker population.

your welcome 

[PepeMAGA]

Think we experienced a bit of a golden era from the promotion of it via secret diary of... At least with British girls

[RandomGuy99]

In the world of OF women can make money just by selling videos and photos with none of the health concerns they might experience working as an SP.

[willie loman]

I Keep hearing about the economy , but wind rain or shine, cigarettes are bought, wine is drunk , holidays are taken, bets are made, vice always flourishes,

[jimbobted]

In the world of OF women can make money just by selling videos and photos with none of the health concerns they might experience working as an SP.

A bit. I knew a girl who had had an OF. Said it made enough to pay the rent on her (shitty I subsequently found) flat. So a few hundred a month. She was raking in £2k a night, when she chose to work, as a hooker.
Very few make the big bucks, and they tend to be face out all over social media to drive traffic too. And the videos and photos always get leaked to onlyfap etc, so it's not as easy to stay as anonymous as a hooker.

[Adoniron]

In the world of OF women can make money just by selling videos and photos with none of the health concerns they might experience working as an SP.

I think the young, good looking ones are definitely choosing OF over escorting.

[puntingking]

I think the young, good looking ones are definitely choosing OF over escorting.

not too sure why men would want to subscribe to a girls only fans. If they want to see a naked woman body then search for it on google images. 

or am i missing something regarding only fans? 

[hendrix]

not too sure why men would want to subscribe to a girls only fans. If they want to see a naked woman body then search for it on google images. 

or am i missing something regarding only fans? 

I subscribe to a couple of girls on OF as I really like their content, they work hard to keep it updated daily with new stuff, and they're very good at making custom requests.

[SonofAJohn]

not too sure why men would want to subscribe to a girls only fans. If they want to see a naked woman body then search for it on google images. 

or am i missing something regarding only fans? 

Onlyfans is a bubble but for some subscribers. The custom videos are the key ingredient. Some men love to masturbate at home and a custom video from their favourite onlyfans girl will satisfy them. Not everyone wants to go out and have sex with other people.

[southcoastpunter]

or am i missing something regarding only fans? 

What you are missing is - there are different opinions to yours on what guys like, what is VFM, what is attractive, what guys like doing, what guys find sexy, what sex kinks guys have etc etc etc!

We are all different!!

[jamiekinkxxx]

A bit. I knew a girl who had had an OF. Said it made enough to pay the rent on her (shitty I subsequently found) flat. So a few hundred a month. She was raking in £2k a night, when she chose to work, as a hooker.
Very few make the big bucks, and they tend to be face out all over social media to drive traffic too. And the videos and photos always get leaked to onlyfap etc, so it's not as easy to stay as anonymous as a hooker.

+1.

Guys that think that the average content creator on OF or other such sites is making a  good living are deluded

[Cheshuk]

+1.

Guys that think that the average content creator on OF or other such sites is making a  good living are deluded

Instagram put a girl on my homepage the other day who I saw made an sa account about 6 months ago. Recognised the pictures, so clicked on the profile, and there was a 'linktree' at the top. This led me to download TikTok to take a look. She had about 80,000 followers on Instagram, but a few hundred thousand on TikTok. She had made about 1,000 videos some with a million views but most 100k-200k. Saw a lot more like her & on the app there were some hot girls about 20, doing live stream shows from their bedrooms, random guys sat watching it, popping up in comments simping and giving her tokens (the same way as camsows), she was just sitting there talking, fully dressed and getting paid.

Decided to take a look at the sort of money, they could be earning from this, whilst it didn't look like much, four cents per thousand views, so about $40 per million. I do imagine they could easily earn an extra 600-£1000 a month from this, plus promoting products, commissions on items sold by clothing companies which were in links with a code to their name.

It seems easier to do than OF and get additional income, it's certainly not a living wage, but competitive to getting a part-time job when you're at uni, living with parents or the 1 booking or so a week type girls who were supplementing their income.

I do agree, OF is challenging to make anything without a decent following, but Tiktok may be a slightly larger potential factor than I had realised. At the end of the day they'll likely always be girls, a lot of young people find posting TikTok's cringe, some want nothing to do with social media and some just aren't interested in displaying their lives to the world.

[Pennine Rover]

There was an interesting programme on C5 last night about Mums do Porn.  I think we underestimate what some girls make. Some students did very well during lockdown but the girls or couples who make a steady stream of videos and do one to one chats do really well.

[puntingking]

What you are missing is - there are different opinions to yours on what guys like, what is VFM, what is attractive, what guys like doing, what guys find sexy, what sex kinks guys have etc etc etc!

We are all different!!

fair enough

[puntingking]

Onlyfans is a bubble but for some subscribers. The custom videos are the key ingredient. Some men love to masturbate at home and a custom video from their favourite onlyfans girl will satisfy them. Not everyone wants to go out and have sex with other people.

That is unfortunate for me.
I have never been able to masturbate and I can only ejaculate when a actual woman is giving me the seeing to.

[puntingking]

I subscribe to a couple of girls on OF as I really like their content, they work hard to keep it updated daily with new stuff, and they're very good at making custom requests.

ok.

Do people on here really think that only fans are successfully taking wgs out of the prostitute  business? 

[scutty brown]

ok.

Do people on here really think that only fans are successfully taking wgs out of the prostitute  business? 

Well........something is certainly deflecting British girls in the 18-25 range from starting in the business, and it can really only be OnlyFans or the sugardaddy sites

[jamiekinkxxx]

Instagram put a girl on my homepage the other day who I saw made an sa account about 6 months ago. Recognised the pictures, so clicked on the profile, and there was a 'linktree' at the top. This led me to download TikTok to take a look. She had about 80,000 followers on Instagram, but a few hundred thousand on TikTok. She had made about 1,000 videos some with a million views but most 100k-200k. Saw a lot more like her & on the app there were some hot girls about 20, doing live stream shows from their bedrooms, random guys sat watching it, popping up in comments simping and giving her tokens (the same way as camsows), she was just sitting there talking, fully dressed and getting paid.

Decided to take a look at the sort of money, they could be earning from this, whilst it didn't look like much, four cents per thousand views, so about $40 per million. I do imagine they could easily earn an extra 600-£1000 a month from this, plus promoting products, commissions on items sold by clothing companies which were in links with a code to their name.

It seems easier to do than OF and get additional income, it's certainly not a living wage, but competitive to getting a part-time job when you're at uni, living with parents or the 1 booking or so a week type girls who were supplementing their income.

I do agree, OF is challenging to make anything without a decent following, but Tiktok may be a slightly larger potential factor than I had realised. At the end of the day they'll likely always be girls, a lot of young people find posting TikTok's cringe, some want nothing to do with social media and some just aren't interested in displaying their lives to the world.

100% agree

It is the few guys who seem to think that practically all girls who OF make £100'sk per year that makes me shake my head. It is true also that doing the approach you describe via IG, TikTok etc is much easier and quite simply have a much large 'hit' rate than OFs or similar sites.

[SonofAJohn]

Well........something is certainly deflecting British girls in the 18-25 range from starting in the business, and it can really only be OnlyFans or the sugardaddy sites

Those girls doing onlyfans now will be new entrants into adultwork in the next few years.

[Colston36]

I've had the same two saved searches of AW for some years.  One is a 25 mile radius and the other is my country.  I have found that a few girls don't enter a Post Code so any show up on the county search.
I have found a gradual decline in numbers on both searches in recent years. I am in a typical Middle England area, with very low unemployment but with lots of low paid jobs in tourism.  In the last few month most of the Roms have gone, not doubt related to a Rom couple being sent down at the end of last year. Thais seems to come on waves and move on every couple of weeks. There are only a couple at the moment.
Overall on both searches there is a 25% to 30% drop in numbers from say 2018.  There are fewer tourers no doubt due to high accommodation costs.   There are also fewer new local girls coming into the profession.  At the same time the girls are getting older. Relatively few girls saying they are under 30 - and some some who have bene 29 for a while.
Have others noticed the same trends?
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If history is any guide (it usually is) there will be a lot more coming on stream as the economy gets worse. Girls whore because they need money.

[RandomGuy99]

Those girls doing onlyfans now will be new entrants into adultwork in the next few years.

I don't think they will. They'll make the money they want, buy a house and settle down.

Or maybe they'll become External Link/Members Only

[Cheshuk]

100% agree

It is the few guys who seem to think that practically all girls who OF make £100'sk per year that makes me shake my head. It is true also that doing the approach you describe via IG, TikTok etc is much easier and quite simply have a much large 'hit' rate than OFs or similar sites.

I think the 'mostly on OF' is a myth and they're certainly not on sa. I set my sa radius to 400 miles & no young stunners.. but do appear sporadically for short windows.

No doubt a few will have moved to OF, but it's certainly not quick, easy money if you're an unknown. I do think some are camming but social media is the biggest contender, as theres some easy money, even if it's only a bit of supplementary income. The online sex and related industries as a whole certainly boomed with lockdowns, including girls on insta and TikTok who just post gym/bikini/ingerie pics etc, even the 'paypal me' thing, getting gifted money by random followers.

I don't really think an accurate picture of things can be drawn for a few more years, as the current young ones spent a big chunk of their time locked in their homes online. So whether that trend persists is something that may not be clear for a few more years yet. Either way i'd prefer more choice like everyone, but still can find exactly what i'm looking for today.. just requires a bit more effort and spending more.

[puntingking]

what other people do is what other people do. But I cant help in thinking that guys who use OF are cutting their nose of to spite their face. Meaning, this is a self destructive measure as everyone would prefer a face to face in the same room proper gfe or pse than any kind of web sex. 

[scutty brown]

what other people do is what other people do. But I cant help in thinking that guys who use OF are cutting their nose of to spite their face. Meaning, this is a self destructive measure as everyone would prefer a face to face in the same room proper gfe or pse than any kind of web sex. 

What a daft statement. People do what they prefer. I someone wants to use OF they will, they won't use it because they want to punt. Or vice versa.

[willie loman]

The economy does not drive girls into selling sex, the only time that the economy created an influx into prostitution was at the end of the second world war, and the breakup of the soviet union and eastern europe.

[southcoastpunter]

PK- you don’t seem to learn/understand/accept that not everyone agrees with your views! As scutty said - a really daft statement! You can’t possibly know what everyone wants or thinks!
Personally I have never been on OF but I know guys that do!  As I said earlier, we are all different!!

[RedKettle]

Maybe Sps don't use aw anymore. You seem to be from the North west but in London according to google there is about 32,000 sps.

I googled uk sex workers population it said we have around 72,000.

I also googled other countries that are known to be sex workers hot spots. Netherlands was lower than the UK aswell as Greece but Spain and Germany are much higher. Compared to the world - india, china and Japan has the most in the world.

Just google a country of your choice and then ask "what is the sex worker population in ...." to find out.

On the face of it, it may appear that the UK sex workers population have decrease but it appears not and if it has, Not massively so compared to other nearby countries per sex worker population.

your welcome 

You googled sex workers so that includes porn, only fans, lap dancing etc etc.  tells you nothing about WG numbers

[Southernbloke]

From what I’ve seen on OF you have to spend a lot of money to get even a short video of a girl naked and playing with herself. You could get a reasonable service in a 1to1 escort booking at half the price and the girl is doing things to you instead of wanking over a video.
For me seeing an escort for a couple of hours is far better than playing with myself for 5 minutes ( or less 😆)

[Adoniron]

From what I’ve seen on OF you have to spend a lot of money to get even a short video of a girl naked and playing with herself. You could get a reasonable service in a 1to1 escort booking at half the price and the girl is doing things to you instead of wanking over a video.
For me seeing an escort for a couple of hours is far better than playing with myself for 5 minutes ( or less 😆)

I'm the same, I prefer to get my hands on a girl rather than on my cock, but there is clearly a demand for the OF type service, maybe from men who aren't brave enough to see an escort.

[Bru1901]

In the world of OF women can make money just by selling videos and photos with none of the health concerns they might experience working as an SP.

Ive messaged women and they have said they are making 1k a week just by cast, voice calls, virtual gf, feet pics

Too many guys are giving weekly or monthly allowances so she says she doesnt need meets

[puntingking]

You googled sex workers so that includes porn, only fans, lap dancing etc etc.  tells you nothing about WG numbers

you maybe right on that. I do not know whether google means sex meets or sex via other methods such as online. 

is someone still a massage therapist if you watch a video of them massaging someone else?  it could be their partner that their massaging.

I class sex worker has only being someone who HAS sex for money. Someone who is selling nude pics doesn't fulfil a sex worker description in my opinion.

Porn stars are sex workers, escorts are sex workers, sugerbabies are sex workers. I don't see how people who do phone sex, webcam sex or sexting are sex workers if they don't do any kind of sex acts for money.

I mean, If I spoke to you on the phone and we talking about fixing cars does that make  me a car Mechanics? 

likewise if someone is getting paid to talk about sex does not make them a sex worker in my opinion.

[Dylanbob]

Always looked at direct cam/webcam etc and thought what the hell are you doing this for. For not much more you can have a FS meet, unless 60 seconds does you.

[Blackpool Rock]

I'm the same, I prefer to get my hands on a girl rather than on my cock, but there is clearly a demand for the OF type service, maybe from men who aren't brave enough to see an escort.

That was my thinking too and there must be plenty of men who can't pluck up the courage to go and actually meet a girl for paid sex

As others have said it appears to cost almost as much to chat with someone as it does for an actual punt, if I just need a release I can watch porn for free on the internet (God knows who actually pays for porn  ) but every so often I need a punt with the physical 1 to 1 interaction as it must satisfy some sort of primeval instinct or desire 

Anyway yes the numbers on AW have gone down, my standard search criteria for Lancashire used to return about 115 girls but not it's more like 80 and any implications of covid should be behind us
Brexit may have had an effect but i'm still seeing plenty of dross like Roms who I tend to avoid due to previous shit experience, the numbers are down but the choice of quality also appears to be down too

Thank goodness for the touring Thais over the last couple of years but even the quality of these appears to have taken a hit

[RedKettle]

you maybe right on that. I do not know whether google means sex meets or sex via other methods such as online. 

is someone still a massage therapist if you watch a video of them massaging someone else?  it could be their partner that their massaging.

I class sex worker has only being someone who HAS sex for money. Someone who is selling nude pics doesn't fulfil a sex worker description in my opinion.

Porn stars are sex workers, escorts are sex workers, sugerbabies are sex workers. I don't see how people who do phone sex, webcam sex or sexting are sex workers if they don't do any kind of sex acts for money.

I mean, If I spoke to you on the phone and we talking about fixing cars does that make  me a car Mechanics? 

likewise if someone is getting paid to talk about sex does not make them a sex worker in my opinion.

Your opinion does not agree with the actual definition that includes anyone providing erotic services, so includes talking on the phone.

Also includes males 

[JustaPunter]

you maybe right on that. I do not know whether google means sex meets or sex via other methods such as online. 

is someone still a massage therapist if you watch a video of them massaging someone else?  it could be their partner that their massaging.

I class sex worker has only being someone who HAS sex for money. Someone who is selling nude pics doesn't fulfil a sex worker description in my opinion.

Porn stars are sex workers, escorts are sex workers, sugerbabies are sex workers. I don't see how people who do phone sex, webcam sex or sexting are sex workers if they don't do any kind of sex acts for money.

I mean, If I spoke to you on the phone and we talking about fixing cars does that make  me a car Mechanics? 

likewise if someone is getting paid to talk about sex does not make them a sex worker in my opinion.

You can define “sex workers” in any way you want to.

But that doesn’t change what the actual definition of a sex worker is.

And it makes you wrong

[JustaPunter]

Ive messaged women and they have said they are making 1k a week just by cast, voice calls, virtual gf, feet pics

Too many guys are giving weekly or monthly allowances so she says she doesnt need meets

So you messaged escorts that, presumably, you have seen before but now no longer see clients and they told you that?

I have to admit I find that a little far fetched.

[Strawberry]

So you messaged escorts that, presumably, you have seen before but now no longer see clients and they told you that?

I have to admit I find that a little far fetched.

This is not impossible if the SP is putting a lot of time and effort in, constant promotion, possibly working/logging long hours, camming, subscriptions, private webcam, virtual GF packages. The amount of hours, interaction involved, multitasking, efficient use of time could be high. However I suspect you are questioning whether SPs would give the poster this information.

[advent2016]

As I've gotten older I have more specific needs, less vaginal/anal sex, more sloppy BJs and RO. If you'd told my younger self 10 years ago I'd pay for massage and HJ I'd have laughed, but here we are.
I still see same regular SPs that do what I want but there seem to be much fewer younger ones, or they want a huge premium. Recently I've effectively paid £200 for a 20min BJ and thought it the new norm whereas before Covid there were plenty for £50 a pop. Everything ancillary costs more - hotels, car rental,taxis, train travel, meals.
Over time I will be paying for more massage and HE.

[Pennine Rover]

Some interesting replies.
I also used to do a lot of glamour photography.  The various onsite model sites are seeing the same drop off in the number of models. Sites for pure glamour (P3 etc) work have very few models currently available and even the adult sites are mainly populated ny older girls with very few newcomers.  The sotor is the same in that they can make the same on OF or AM or on other platforms, without leaving home.

[JontyR]

To just give an alternative persepctive, yeah you might prefer the touch of another to your own hand but if your opportunities and time is limited or doesn't align then virtual options may be the only ones available.
There have been plenty who have fallen foul of a bad punting decision because of trying to get a booking to fit in with availability in your schedule.

[puntingking]

To just give an alternative persepctive, yeah you might prefer the touch of another to your own hand but if your opportunities and time is limited or doesn't align then virtual options may be the only ones available.
There have been plenty who have fallen foul of a bad punting decision because of trying to get a booking to fit in with availability in your schedule.

some men can't ejaculate when masturbating. like me.

It is a mental thing really. I just feel gay giving myself a hand release.   

[puntingking]

declining numbers of sps - I don't see that myself.

Viva street has plenty of adverts. there is gum tree as well for erotic massages.

Sps would need to discover aw to know to advertise on there I suppose where as vivastreet and gumtree is more well known as it has other categories such as car hire, selling second hand goods and other personal services.

[JontyR]

some men can't ejaculate when masturbating. like me.

I'd suggest that that would put you in a very small minority.

And I'm wondering just how on earth you made it through your early teenage years. Were you the inspriation for Buster Gonad?

[scutty brown]

I'd suggest that that would put you in a very small minority.

And I'm wondering just how on earth you made it through your early teenage years. Were you the inspriation for Buster Gonad?

He was alright back then - he could remember to change hands at 99 so his arm didn't get tired. But now.....
That's what age does for you

[Doc Holliday]

some men can't ejaculate when masturbating. like me.

It is a mental thing really. I just feel gay giving myself a hand release.    

May I ask is there a religious background to this?

[scutty brown]

May I ask is there a religious background to this?

Onan needs a helping hand

[puntingking]

May I ask is there a religious background to this?

no religious background to this.