Jock, I thought Kirsten was now working down in London, I'm sure there was a thread about it on here - can't be arsed to look for it right now. I wouldn't be surprised if Kara resurfaces at some point, I was one of the suckers that fell for her last retirement announcement only to return 2 weeks later. She was good, but over-hyped on here in my opinion to the point that I was actually quite disappointed as I was expecting so much more from her, even though it was actually a decent punt.