Losing virginity to an escort

[Link7]

I don't think people necessarily care that it's a troll - clearly it's a topic of interest and we're learning each other's views regardless of OP. Not sure we're supposed to be an agony aunt club but we also can't forget the large anonymous readership - it may be that the discussion is relevant to some other real person somewhere, now or in future.

Some people have said "go for it" on the basis that that's what they did, and (seemingly) they're happy enough having led a life of what sounds like exclusively paid-for sex ever since. All due respect to those posters, unless they are disabled for example, or have some other severe handicap/disadvantage for interacting with women that can't be changed, this is poor advice. Why should a man of 18/19 surrounded by young single ladies and with every opportunity of succeeding with one (hopefully several) over the next 3 years, resign himself to failure now and sign up to the risks, perils and cost of a potential lifetime spent punting? By choosing the path you did, that's kind of what you guys resigned yourselves to - it's good that you're enjoying it and have no hang ups, but honestly, it's not really anything to aspire to.

Even putting the money and risk of addiction aside - if OP doesn't try and learn how to talk to girls now, maybe even how to form a relationship with one, when will he? Will only get harder later in life. The sensible option is to plug away, break his duck (doesnt matter what she looks like or how drunk he is!) and if he's anything like most lads, the floodgates will open from there.

[Henchmanlet95]

I don't think people necessarily care that it's a troll - clearly it's a topic of interest and we're learning each other's views regardless of OP. Not sure we're supposed to be an agony aunt club but we also can't forget the large anonymous readership - it may be that the discussion is relevant to some other real person somewhere, now or in future.

Some people have said "go for it" on the basis that that's what they did, and (seemingly) they're happy enough having led a life of what sounds like exclusively paid-for sex ever since. All due respect to those posters, unless they are disabled for example, or have some other severe handicap/disadvantage for interacting with women that can't be changed, this is poor advice. Why should a man of 18/19 surrounded by young single ladies and with every opportunity of succeeding with one (hopefully several) over the next 3 years, resign himself to failure now and sign up to the risks, perils and cost of a potential lifetime spent punting? By choosing the path you did, that's kind of what you guys resigned yourselves to - it's good that you're enjoying it and have no hang ups, but honestly, it's not really anything to aspire to.

Even putting the money and risk of addiction aside - if OP doesn't try and learn how to talk to girls now, maybe even how to form a relationship with one, when will he? Will only get harder later in life. The sensible option is to plug away, break his duck (doesnt matter what she looks like or how drunk he is!) and if he's anything like most lads, the floodgates will open from there.

Yes i also agree -  excellent advice. My god i wish Tinder and the like were available when i was your age there is no way i would have gone to escorts.. There is no way you should be thinking of seeing an escort DONT DO IT. I know its difficult at the moment with the virus and the lockdowns so you cant go to bars etc and mingle as you would normally but losing your cherry to an escort is pretty sad to be honest at your age and as the other poster has said could harm future relationships. Since using escorts i have found it virtually impossible to form a meaningful relationship with a girlfriend as i was almost addicted to seeing escorts. Plenty of time in the future to go down the escort route if you decide to but I really hope you dont have to.

With the current covid/lockdown bollocks can you really blame him for wanting to lose his v card to an escort? You can't exactly go to the the pub and try pull nowadays also Tinder/POF can be a hassle.

I've shagged girls from Tinder but it takes alot of work tbh.  it's fairly easy for me to get matches/numbers etc however getting birds on there to actually meet up with you is a fucking headache. Many say there down for meeting up but will then flake/cancel on you last minute. You're also competing with 100's of other men which makes it harder and have to send loads of messages before you find a girl thats interested, even then they can lose interest very fast if a guy they perceive as better than you comes along. If you're not extremely good looking then online dating isn't easy as people think, you pretty much have to play the numbers game before you strike out.

I'd rather just punt atleast you get to bang any girl you want without any of the bullshit and silly games involved that comes with dating.


OP I'm not much older than you but if it's something that's really getting on your nerves then I'd say go ahead, just don't confuse it with pulling civvies and always remember its purely a business transaction.

[JontyR]

Actually the one bit of advice I wish I had received early in my uni shagging / relationship career was “by all means listen to advice, but do what you think is right rather than what others think. You’ll be the one living with the consequences, not them”

[JJwyatts]

I think the key is. Remembering that it’s business. If it’s something that’s in any virgins head and you feel you just want to get it done. Go for it. I’d be careful about only paid transactions for sex long term as it could cause issues and lack of ability with dating etc. But short term. Given the current circumstances. If you feel it could be of benefit to you. I’d say go for it. So long as you make sure your aware this isn’t the same as a real relationship and pulling a civie. I know of many who have lost there virginity to an escort. Never caused them issues and they went on to have some very successful relationships. Everyone’s different. So what you feel is right for you. Everyone’s different. Don’t have to follow what society tells you is “right”

[Tokidoe]

I think mentally its probably better to think that losing your virginity isn’t too big of a deal. Chances are you when you see your first escort, you’d probably be thinking about it too much and referring to porn for what you’d do. Do it if you want to experience it.

In my experience also losing my v to some fit as fuck escort, I couldn’t even finish cause I was so obsessed about my own performance, that or I was so used to my death grip in order to finish. I was 20 at the time, not too long after I made my account on here.

[oddson1970]

Actually the one bit of advice I wish I had received early in my uni shagging / relationship career was “by all means listen to advice, but do what you think is right rather than what others think. You’ll be the one living with the consequences, not them”

My feelings exactly.Easiest thing in the world to give advice as it doesn't affect you

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Feck me too! was soo long ago now escorts hadnt been invented!, well not as we know 'em Jim! Boughh up a Catholic boy and yep!, she was a catholic Girl took bloody ages before we managed it and that was in the very salubrious location of the back seat of my Mini!!

Her fecking mum wanted her to get married!! but not to me!, i wasnt good enough being bought up on a council estate and not being a "professional" of any sort or discription!!

Thank fuck GF No 2 was soo much better, she wasnt called "Horiziontal Heather" for nothing!. Around 1 hour into first date she asked if i'd bought some johnnies with me as she'd FORGOT hers!!.

After three days she'd put herself on the pill so she could "feel me inside her"! Top Girl!!

[Mike66]

Having a shag with a wg is quite different to with a girlfriend, basically you’re just gonna get (mostly) something you’ve seen in a porn flick and it’s a totally different thing to being with someone you love. Having said that if you really do want to pop your cherry with one then have a good mooch around the reviews and pick someone with good feedback. I’d pick someone a good bit older and with a good nature and explain it’s your first time. If you have trouble picking up girls then punting is a good way to get a shag, but at your age I wouldn’t look at it as a long term permanent solution, get some experience and try and meet a nice girl. You can have some great fun punting but always do your research before picking one of the wg’ s 

[Link7]

With the current covid/lockdown bollocks can you really blame him for wanting to lose his v card to an escort? You can't exactly go to the the pub and try pull nowadays also Tinder/POF can be a hassle.

I've shagged girls from Tinder but it takes alot of work tbh.  it's fairly easy for me to get matches/numbers etc however getting birds on there to actually meet up with you is a fucking headache. Many say there down for meeting up but will then flake/cancel on you last minute. You're also competing with 100's of other men which makes it harder and have to send loads of messages before you find a girl thats interested, even then they can lose interest very fast if a guy they perceive as better than you comes along. If you're not extremely good looking then online dating isn't easy as people think, you pretty much have to play the numbers game before you strike out.

I'd rather just punt atleast you get to bang any girl you want without any of the bullshit and silly games involved that comes with dating.


OP I'm not much older than you but if it's something that's really getting on your nerves then I'd say go ahead, just don't confuse it with pulling civvies and always remember its purely a business transaction.

I'm not saying online dating is easy, that's part of my point. He's at uni - shouldn't be any need for Tinder, there will never be an easier time for meeting/interacting with girls in his life. If he's in halls of residence I would expect there's still loads of shagging going on? If not, national lockdown isn't going to last forever, a couple of months more wanking won't kill him - all single lads in the country are in the same boat currently.

I don't agree that prossies are good or harmless "practice" for people with no experience. I think they are best for dirty gits who know the score. Punting is totally removed from "real" sex/relationships. The whole dynamic is different: it changes the way you see women, is divorced from intimacy and the need to care about the other person, will give him unrealistic expectations of what sex even is (can you imagine him trying to flirt with a civvy in 10 years time and asking if she does DFK ), is likely to make his sexual preferences progressively more deviant/extreme (can cause problems with "nice" girls who are actually suitable for LTR), and most importantly will reduce his incentive to actually improve himself and learn to talk to women (unless OP is disabled - isn't social awkwardness/lack of confidence the real issue here? I have been to uni - even the spottiest nerds manage to get a shag in the end).

If your formative sexual experiences are all in punting, I think it's likely to warp and/or inhibit your ability to obtain, understand and function in sexual relationships in real life. Leave it to older guys and various others who need to use them. At 18, you don't need to, you're being lazy and risking getting stuck in a rut.

[Chazz]

OK, I'll bite. Here's a list of my thoughts in no particular order, many of which agree with what the others have said above:

1. You've had a girlfriend and you've managed to dry hump her, so you must be able to talk to girls, and can't be so grotesque looking that they run away screaming from you.

2. If you can't get laid at uni, you're never going to get laid. For fuck's sake, if I can get myself laid at uni, then ANYBODY can get themselves laid at uni.

3. You're probably looking up the pecking order at the unobtainable beautiful 10/10 girls who'd won't even look at you let alone sleep with you. Do yourself a favour and turn around and look at the some of the more "fugly" girls. I guarantee that someone in your social circle is rubbing her twat right now, and would happily fuck your brains out, given the chance. The best sex that I've ever had has been with fugly girls, much better than the stunners.

4. Actually, it's sometimes worth having a go with a stunner - because they seem unobtainable, nobody dares to approach them and they can be starved of male attention, and you never know - you might get lucky.

5. Sex is just sex. I guess that you need to lose your V plates to realise this, but it's not everything that it's cracked out to be.

6. Civvie sex is like cocaine. It's fun, can be addictive and something that most people will go out of their way to get. Paid sex is like crack - it's a short-cut, a concentrated, manufactured rush aimed straight at the pleasure centre of your brain. It is highly addictive, and will skew your perception of both money and women.

7. With my middle-aged libido, middle-aged salary and lots of disposable income, I usually punt once or twice a month (in normal times that is). And it's not too great a strain on my resources. If I was 18 again, I'd want to be punting at least once a day, and on a meagre student income, I'd be financially ruined.

8. Once you've punted, you're always a punter. You've crossed a line and there's no going back.

9. If you do decide to go through with it, pick someone who's well reviewed on here - no point in TOFTT if it's your first go.

10. Research, research, research!

11. Don't pick someone on your doorstep - you don't want to shit where you eat.

12. If I were you, I'd book an hour and make an event of it - no point in wasting your cherry on a 15 minute pump and dump.

13. Don't forget to enjoy yourself - you'll be nervous, but it's not a trip to the dentists! (Unless you're into that sort of thing!)

14. Be clean, punctual and polite to the SP - as well as being a decent human being, you'll get much better service. Tell her too that it's your first time - there's no point in bluffing it out.

15. Write a review on here - we all want to know how you get on, and it might be extremely useful to someone else in a similar situation to yours.

16. Don't take advice from a pervy old cunt like me.

[winkywanky]

Simply epic post Chazz  . You pretty well covered it all.

You didn't just Google it and get it all off the internet, did you? 

[Filli]

I lost my virginity to a working girl
I tried in uni 1st to get a girl it didnt work as i have really bad social skills I'm actually quite decent  looking i go gym everyday etc but i cant get a girl so had to go this route nothing wrong with it i dont regret it

[Chazz]

Simply epic post Chazz  . You pretty well covered it all.

You didn't just Google it and get it all off the internet, did you? 

Why thank you WW! 

(Great avatar BTW - you can't beat a bit of Derek and Clive!)

[luv2kiss54]

Go for it! 

I wished I had lost mine a lot sooner than I did. I was 29 (two months from my 30th birthday) when I lost mine to an escort.

I remember the booking took a lot of arranging due to work commitments but we were finally able to arrange a time/date.

Just before the booking I was really nervous but when the time came it went fine. As these things go it couldn't have been better to be honest. I made the decision to see an older woman for my first time as there more experienced and would be a good teacher for a newbie. I've been with 20 escorts since and don't regret a thing. I've had some great times so go for it! 

Big difference here is that you were 29 -  the OP is about 19. At 29 i can see you would have been pretty desparate to get the deed done before you were 30 but at his age he needs to try his luck in civvy life and once he scores there will be no stopping him.

[Edo244]

Hi folks. I'm a virgin, horny 1st year university student (living in university residence) hoping to get away from the masturbation by booking an escort. The only thing I have come close to intercourse was dry humping with the girlfriend during sixth form.

Over the past week, I have read you catch stds even with protection (herpes, hpv etc). Recently I found out that one potential lady was actually a man (post TS, i think). Is it worth the risk? The guilt? Will escorts contact you on your phone after making an enquiry? There's so much to consider and just need some sense of guidance. 

Apologise for using this platform. I welcome any responses.

I used to think like you. I was 21 and I was still a virgin and thought very hard if I wanted to lose my virginity to an escort. Luckily I didn’t and I waited. Thank god I eventually found a horny slut in uni, she saved me from using escorts

As I’m in my 26 now, I regret using escorts in the first place. It’s kind of like a sick hobby to me, because I’m not attractive in my personal life and whenever I get rejected by a woman, I turn to escorts at the end. I get very horny and end up (in the past) booking 2-3 girls per week which would drain my money. I have always felt punting as an ‘old man’s game’ and that young people who use escorts (according to my friend) are sad and disgraceful. Hence why I would never tell people i punt.

Don’t lose your virginity to an escort please. It seems you are also worried about stds as well. Condoms are 99% effective and most escorts seems to do a covered blowjob. But my advise is for you to Wait, even if you end up becoming a 40 year old virgin. Use tinder and look around girls in your uni. I’m guessing you have some sort of social awkwardness as well, if your last resort is using an escort.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Its not so much attractiveness as confidence so i hear and read and i have been told in the past "whats an ugley old git like you doing with a girl like her"!.

Mind you that was some while go now 70 years is on the horizion!!! But so fecking what managed to pull a couple of 20 somethig civves not that long ago but most times for me WG's are fine however three times a week is excessive.  I've done Three times a day on a few recent binges but thay are the exception to the norm!

Never went to Uni where i grew up it was "off to the factory for you" and being bought up a catholic never helped either, still we managed !

[Flint3]

If you feel stigma about still being a virgin is playing on your mind then punting can allow you to change your situation very quickly. Why waste years of your young life waiting? Obviously it's a big deal and you should take the time to find a girl you would be really into. It a good way to lose your virginity as you know there won't be any judgement with an escort. She will want to make you feel good about it. Some people lose their virginity to an ex they have now fallen out with or on a one night stand who they wouldn't have gone near unless drunk. You would get choose the right person and 10 years on you can think that you lost it to a stunning girl. If you find a girl at uni there would still be an STD risk so just try not to worry about that as SW's probably get tested a lot more.

I got into escorts while at Uni. I thought everyone around me was having 'more fun' and due to my social anxiety I wasn't. In the end it really helped my self-confidence. I have zero regrets to this day about punting and wished I'd started earlier.

[Colston36]

OK, I'll bite. Here's a list of my thoughts in no particular order, many of which agree with what the others have said above:

1. You've had a girlfriend and you've managed to dry hump her, so you must be able to talk to girls, and can't be so grotesque looking that they run away screaming from you.

2. If you can't get laid at uni, you're never going to get laid. For fuck's sake, if I can get myself laid at uni, then ANYBODY can get themselves laid at uni.

3. You're probably looking up the pecking order at the unobtainable beautiful 10/10 girls who'd won't even look at you let alone sleep with you. Do yourself a favour and turn around and look at the some of the more "fugly" girls. I guarantee that someone in your social circle is rubbing her twat right now, and would happily fuck your brains out, given the chance. The best sex that I've ever had has been with fugly girls, much better than the stunners.

4. Actually, it's sometimes worth having a go with a stunner - because they seem unobtainable, nobody dares to approach them and they can be starved of male attention, and you never know - you might get lucky.

5. Sex is just sex. I guess that you need to lose your V plates to realise this, but it's not everything that it's cracked out to be.

6. Civvie sex is like cocaine. It's fun, can be addictive and something that most people will go out of their way to get. Paid sex is like crack - it's a short-cut, a concentrated, manufactured rush aimed straight at the pleasure centre of your brain. It is highly addictive, and will skew your perception of both money and women.

7. With my middle-aged libido, middle-aged salary and lots of disposable income, I usually punt once or twice a month (in normal times that is). And it's not too great a strain on my resources. If I was 18 again, I'd want to be punting at least once a day, and on a meagre student income, I'd be financially ruined.

8. Once you've punted, you're always a punter. You've crossed a line and there's no going back.

9. If you do decide to go through with it, pick someone who's well reviewed on here - no point in TOFTT if it's your first go.

10. Research, research, research!

11. Don't pick someone on your doorstep - you don't want to shit where you eat.

12. If I were you, I'd book an hour and make an event of it - no point in wasting your cherry on a 15 minute pump and dump.

13. Don't forget to enjoy yourself - you'll be nervous, but it's not a trip to the dentists! (Unless you're into that sort of thing!)

14. Be clean, punctual and polite to the SP - as well as being a decent human being, you'll get much better service. Tell her too that it's your first time - there's no point in bluffing it out.

15. Write a review on here - we all want to know how you get on, and it might be extremely useful to someone else in a similar situation to yours.

16. Don't take advice from a pervy old cunt like me.

Excellent advice.

Life is a lottery. Everything really depends on your looks, talent, charm - and the x factor: what turns you on.

I was young, good looking and rich with a job that took me all over the world. No problem getting laid.

Now I'm old, a bit of a wreck but still pretty fit, quite well off and I've ALWAYS loved whores. So I can spend the fag end of my life spending time with them.

I enjoy their company and have lived out a lifetime's fantasies in  the last 5 years with more to go at 84.

[GreyDave]

   I am more like HPs start in this punting life, Chazz`s advice is not bad I`d add a few cavets though.

When HP and I started ( I lost it to a Singaporean girl Soho when 16 she let me cum twice I then visted the Auntie types with big tits in particular a few Maltesse ladies who also let me pop twice ...something I wish I could do in a day now not a quicky ) The WG`s around seemed to be less of the rush you out and over with, they wanted regular custom...Many of the Roms and Hungarian girls are production line for a few days in the local hotel and they move on , so no rapore is ever built . A first time without protection is what you will remember more the first time with a rubbered up dick was shite the best part was the oral fluff up by her then the rubber on with her mouth. In the 70`s sex in soho could be bareback and that now is going to be kept for civies in realation ships... Punting as a way of losing it is not to bad a thing , I felt it helped when I did start on civies which have cost me a hellof a lot more     I went for an orental girl 30ish as that was my fantasy then but I found as a young guy the older Milfy types enjoyed telling a young lad what to do  The younger girls then as now seem to have a contempt for punters maybe its me Milfs enjoy it more in my experiance and they are more in control ...my 2 pence worth all best 

[nbarnes]

I must confess - I adore this hobby and its allowed me to expand my horizons sexually beyond anything I ever imagined.

The only regret I do have is that I lost my virginity in the Red Light District in Amsterdam at 24. It was a good experience, but I'd rather have let it go to someone important to me.
(God that sounds soppy and fluffy)

I had a lovely GF around that sort of time, but she had serious problems with sexual guilt + religion at that point.
We were on for marriage at 22. Looking back - to hell with that.

So, it's a regret for me in a way - but its in the past now, onwards and upwards!
The good side is that I've achieved more in a few years of seriously punting than most civvies do in a lifetime, and UKP is a big part of that

If I am still going like a sewing machine at 80 like Colston36 is, I will die a happy man.

[Home Alone]

... ... ...

So, it's a regret for me in a way - but its in the past now, onwards and upwards!
The good side is that I've achieved more in a few years of seriously punting than most civvies do in a lifetime, and UKP is a big part of that

If I am still going like a sewing machine at 80 like Colston36 is, I will die a happy man.

As someone with seriously low self-esteem 50-odd - that could equally well read as '50 odd' - years ago, I agree especially with every word that's in bold above, nbarnes.

I look on my punting years as making up for lost time. Now, when I look at the OHs of some of my longstanding non-punting mates, I'm kind-of glad things worked out the way they did. Shallow of me, I know; but, ...   

[Markc]

You have been given a lot of good advice so far. So here’s what’s l think.

If losing your virginity is a goal you what to achieve go ahead and do it.
Most of us on here would like to think our first time was in a nice hotel room,
after we had taken the women out for a romantic meal, music playing in
the background while we made love on a large bed. I think most on here would
say that there first time was not like that. Mine was in my car when l was
giving my best friend’s really hot girlfriend a lift home. I had told her l was
a virgin and the trouble l had getting a girlfriend at the time. I was 23. She
liked the idea of going with a virgin and we fucked for about 6 months after
that until they got engaged. He still my friend today and after 25 years they
are still married but me and his wife never mention it.

If your at University still and not just doing online learning is there any chance
of hooking up with any of female students who may also be in the same situation
as you?

Another wise visiting an escort to lose your virginity would be the best plan of action
and have some advantages instead of being with a civilian girl. If your in any of the large cities
like London, Manchester or Birmingham look at local escort agency who will normally
have a number of girls on there books to cater for all tastes. Also Adultwork is a great
showcase for women working in your area. I would suggest you get a women a couple
of years older than you and one who has worked a couple of years and has good reviews
so you know that they are experienced. Also with the escort the is little pressure on you
as she is there to make sure you have a good time and she will show you what to do and
guide you.

I have an escort friend who has done a number of virgin bookings and she says they are
always great fun and she loves helping the guys to lose their virginity. She says guys are
normally very nervous and she starts by kissing them, then massaging them and then
move onto the more intimate part of the session. Also an escort will put the condom on
and you know it is correct as it is in the best interests that it is on right. The first time l
did it l couldn’t even open the wrapper the girl had to do it for me. I wished l had practiced.

If you were really worried about STD you wouldn’t be having sex at all. As others have said
it’s all a matter of risk. An escort will normally be clean and have check ups so they can carry
on working where a civilian girl who is popular may not know of a problem until it’s too late.
If you are still worried about STD with an escort don’t do the more imitate services she offers.
So don’t kiss her and wear a condom when she gives you oral.

If you let us know whereabouts you are there maybe members give you recommendations in your
area. Hope this is useful for you and when you do it all goes well for you. Let us know.

[Turnip]

My advice would be to book up a solid punt identified by some research through the reviews. Then book another half dozen visits to different girls. You’ll get more confident as you go along from shooting your load in a couple of mins first time to learning to hold back and give something in return. Learn about the clit, the vulva, the smell. Learn how to handle a pair of tits, how to talk dirty, how to be comfortable starkers. It’s like anything in life, the more you try something, the better you get at it. When I started punting I thought I knew a fair bit but boy did I soon learn a lot more.
In general build up your confidence of shagging then put it out there on the campus having served your apprenticeship.

[SamOmar]

Hi folks. I'm a virgin, horny 1st year university student (living in university residence) hoping to get away from the masturbation by booking an escort. The only thing I have come close to intercourse was dry humping with the girlfriend during sixth form.

Over the past week, I have read you catch stds even with protection (herpes, hpv etc). Recently I found out that one potential lady was actually a man (post TS, i think). Is it worth the risk? The guilt? Will escorts contact you on your phone after making an enquiry? There's so much to consider and just need some sense of guidance. 

Apologise for using this platform. I welcome any responses.

Dude my first half hearted attempt at sex was with a young lady (family friend) i failed miserably and started seeing escorts who taught me most of what I know. But to be completely honest you need to go in with a mature mindset and I don't think you have one in my humble opinion

[daviemac]

You do realise the OP of this keeps logging in every few hours, presumably just to see how is threads is progressing as he takes no active part.

[Home Alone]

We - and he - certainly do now, all right; Davie!

[daviemac]

We - and he - certainly do now, all right; Davie!

See reply #7   

[isaac_gauss]

I lost mine to an escort. Not ideal, not the worst.

I'd suggest you punt only in your advanced years. You're still young, so not yet: your inexperience is not so much of a hindrance while you're young. Put the effort in, learn, research and (assuming you're after a normal sexual relationship) don't expect success to 'just happen'. And then if you find yourself back here... punt purposely: gain some sexual confidence, then get back to the real game.

Tell her too that it's your first time - there's no point in bluffing it out.

Don't lead with this in your email/text. It's not something taken as a sign you're a genuine client. But don't lie about it. If the SP says 'no virgins' in her profile text, don't go with that one.

[daviemac]

My advice would be to book up a solid punt identified by some research through the reviews. Then book another half dozen visits to different girls. You’ll get more confident as you go along from shooting your load in a couple of mins first time to learning to hold back and give something in return. Learn about the clit, the vulva, the smell. Learn how to handle a pair of tits, how to talk dirty, how to be comfortable starkers. It’s like anything in life, the more you try something, the better you get at it. When I started punting I thought I knew a fair bit but boy did I soon learn a lot more.
In general build up your confidence of shagging then put it out there on the campus having served your apprenticeship.

Should this not be in the 'return of the Bush' thread, where some members Do do the right thing and some think the mods and admin are daft.

[scutty brown]

Hi folks. I'm a virgin, horny 1st year university student (living in university residence) hoping to get away from the masturbation by booking an escort. The only thing I have come close to intercourse was dry humping with the girlfriend during sixth form.

Over the past week, I have read you catch stds even with protection (herpes, hpv etc). Recently I found out that one potential lady was actually a man (post TS, i think). Is it worth the risk? The guilt? Will escorts contact you on your phone after making an enquiry? There's so much to consider and just need some sense of guidance. 

Apologise for using this platform. I welcome any responses.

Wel...in the unlikely event that your'e not a troll I think you just need to accept that women don't find you appealing.
Your best bet up is to try a hookup on Grindr.

[winkywanky]

Should this not be in the 'return of the Bush' thread, where some members Do do the right thing and some think the mods and admin are daft.

Not a bad idea davie, you'd have them all rounded up in one place and then it'd be like a turkey shoot 

[daviemac]

Not a bad idea davie, you'd have them all rounded up in one place and then it'd be like a turkey shoot 

He's been Dodo, Nobby, Bush and Turnip, we await his next incarnation. 

[no2punter]

In my view, go for it. I lost my virginity to one and enjoyed it, and it wasn’t too big of a deal. I’m glad I experienced something that others my age do around when they did, even if it was in a different way. And hearing some of their awkward and embarrassing stories, maybe it was a lot better than their first times.

One thing you have to be careful of is spending. After my first punt, I did spend a lot on them through uni, even though I wasn’t financially in a position to do so. It took me a while to get the hang of proper punt budgeting.

At first, you’ll crave sex. Once you punt enough, you’ll crave real intimacy. I think after a while, if you’ve not had sex with an ordinary girl, you do tend to get somewhat jaded about punting if you’ve not experienced the real thing, because they’re just so different.

The claim that if you don’t have sex at uni, you’ll never have sex is false. Maybe this was more true decades ago. Nowadays we live in much more of a Tinderized society, especially in the pandemic, so looks matter a lot when it comes to getting on dates with women.

For me personally, I had orthodontics for the first year or so of uni. This altered my facial structure slightly. So I was somewhat (not massively) better looking at 22 when I first had sex with a non-prostitute, than I was at 18/19. I know this is a unique situation, but in general some men also don’t finish growing until they’re 25. Going to the gym increases testosterone and makes you look better too, especially in those younger years.

There’s also women’s standards and preferences. Firstly, a lot of men prefer dating older men. I found a lot of interest in me from girls aged 19/20 at 23 than I did when younger. I think women my own age also somewhat reduce their standards the older they get, when they’re looking more for relationships rather than casual hookups. A lot of young guys I know have found more women attracted to them in their mid/late 20s than in their late teens and early 20s. I’ve heard this phenomenon becomes even more pronounced after 30. Also, as you travel around more for business or leisure, you will likely find you’re more popular with women from other countries. You can investigate by using Tinder plus and setting your location to the other places, doesn’t have to be a stereotypical place like Thailand, you should find it easy to get matches in even the US if you point out you’re British in your bio.

There were ugly girls in my uni social circles. The trouble is that my social circles tended to have a lot more boys than girls (including quite a few boys much more handsome than me), and even those ugly girls received massive attention from boys for simply being girls who shared their specific interests, elevating their egos and standards. This tends to be the case if you’re in “nerdier” social circles. And remember that regardless of what social circle they’re in, they have access to Tinder and can meet attractive men on there fairly easily who will sleep with them, even if they won’t have a public relationship with them.

As for post-op TS, that’s not a very high risk and easily identifiable through past reviews and also her voice and often body on the day. If you don’t like what you see, walk out. If you’re really concerned, to reduce risk, go for an English or Eastern Euro girl rather than a Thai or Brazilian.

The OP may or may not be a troll – just sharing my experiences for all readers since I think this is a common query.

[GreyDave]

You do realise the OP of this keeps logging in every few hours, presumably just to see how is threads is progressing as he takes no active part.

   Like myself he has nothing to do and also like me at moment NO CASH    this site is helping me stay sane ....ish

[SeriousLee]

Hi folks. I'm a virgin, horny 1st year university student (living in university residence) hoping to get away from the masturbation by booking an escort. The only thing I have come close to intercourse was dry humping with the girlfriend during sixth form.

Over the past week, I have read you catch stds even with protection (herpes, hpv etc). Recently I found out that one potential lady was actually a man (post TS, i think). Is it worth the risk? The guilt? Will escorts contact you on your phone after making an enquiry? There's so much to consider and just need some sense of guidance. 

Apologise for using this platform. I welcome any responses.

If you want the 70s or 80s authentic virginity losing experience, a 15minute car meet would be sufficient.

You may have less guilt about it if you do it that way.

[notcalledchris]

2. If you can't get laid at uni, you're never going to get laid. For fuck's sake, if I can get myself laid at uni, then ANYBODY can get themselves laid at uni.

I spent 3 years trying to get laid at Uni and failed!  Spent all my effort trying to pull the stunners and failed to notice the perfectly acceptable-looking girls who were offering it to me on a plate if only I had had the sense to see it.  The one puling tip I would give my younger self is remember it takes two to tango.  Improving your pulling ability is one thing, but also make sure that you are fully receptive of when you are being pulled.   Lost my cherry to a nice petite ordinary looking girl on my course who had been trying to attract my attention on and off for years.  Only in the last week did she drop all subtlety and offer herself to me. We spent hours screwing every day that last week.  I was such an idiot to not realise that I could have spent three years doing that, although I would have probably failed my course. 

Went on to do a post-grad degree and was much wiser then and shagged my fair share of other students (visiting sisters of mates were a good speciality), before moving in with one of the staff (a fucked-up short-haired feminist type who refused to wear nice undies or make-up as that "objectified her" but who loved it hard in the arse and in public and is now a professor at Oxford)

[Chazz]

If you want the 70s or 80s authentic virginity losing experience, a 15minute car meet would be sufficient.

 

Quite right - I remember the rear suspension on that Fiesta was never the same again!

[JontyR]

You may have less guilt about it if you do it that way.

True about the guilt...how about disgust and self-loathing?

[Bobbyplastic]

I was 21, sick of wasting money at the pubs and clubs trying to find a girl. So, I decided to get  professional help. Got a man's mag, and found a woman in Brum. She was a milf and very understanding. I couldn't feel a thing as I pumped away . I saw her several times before I discovered parlours close to me. For me, it was the best way to lose my cherry.

[Laudanum]

Are you able to satisfy that urge every day? Or do you not get daily urges?

Sadly, I only get monthly urges nowadays.

[Zoph00]

I'm 20 and lost my virginity to an escort just over a month and a half ago. I didn't orgasm, probably due to a mixture of nerves and the condom making my dick feel numb. The girl I saw was 25, she was really kind and understanding. I walked out with no regrets, but at the same time, it wasn't all I thought it would be. Losing your virginity likely won't be some magical experience a lot of virgins expect it to be.

Bare in mind however, punting can be addictive for some people. Out of the 4 other people I know who have punted, 1 got heavily addicted and punted with no regards for his finances, 1 of them visits semi regularly but spends responsibly and the other 2 stopped punting.

[tynetunnel]

You are 20 and know four other punters besides yourself? 

[BillT]

I don't think people necessarily care that it's a troll - clearly it's a topic of interest and we're learning each other's views regardless of OP. Not sure we're supposed to be an agony aunt club but we also can't forget the large anonymous readership - it may be that the discussion is relevant to some other real person somewhere, now or in future.

Some people have said "go for it" on the basis that that's what they did, and (seemingly) they're happy enough having led a life of what sounds like exclusively paid-for sex ever since. All due respect to those posters, unless they are disabled for example, or have some other severe handicap/disadvantage for interacting with women that can't be changed, this is poor advice. Why should a man of 18/19 surrounded by young single ladies and with every opportunity of succeeding with one (hopefully several) over the next 3 years, resign himself to failure now and sign up to the risks, perils and cost of a potential lifetime spent punting? By choosing the path you did, that's kind of what you guys resigned yourselves to - it's good that you're enjoying it and have no hang ups, but honestly, it's not really anything to aspire to.

Even putting the money and risk of addiction aside - if OP doesn't try and learn how to talk to girls now, maybe even how to form a relationship with one, when will he? Will only get harder later in life. The sensible option is to plug away, break his duck (doesnt matter what she looks like or how drunk he is!) and if he's anything like most lads, the floodgates will open from there.

Whilst the OP may or may not be a troll, I will chime in with my experience.

TL/DR I lost my virginity to an Escort at a well known Milton Keynes establishment in the mid 00s, when I was 27! Not sure I'd recommend it.

I was never that confident whilst growing up. Even less around girls. And as I went into my late teens/early 20s all I managed really was to do was get into the friendzone with a lot of girls. Long story short, it would grind me down internally whilst all my friends were shagging and getting into relationships. Whether they knew, or even cared that I was still a virgin at 27 I don't know. I would say I had a significant porn addiction at the same time. (I wasn't jacking off in work toilets, but every evening Id be watching it online) Eventually one week, I was away on work and finally summoned up courage to book a girl at a well known establishment for 30mins.

It was of course, awful. I couldn't get fully hard, so although Mr semi did get inside the doors so to speak, I didn't manage to finish. I went away feeling OK, hoping I'd have a new found confidence around sex. Get the monkey off my back. I mean crikey, Id just interacted with a naked woman on the same bed as me for the first time! Got to be a start at least right?

I tried so hard in the 6 months after that to get into something with a "civvie" But I just couldn't. (My desperation probably evident!) So I saw a well reviewed GFE Indie for an hour. A much better booking. Went to her flat, it felt natural. I performed better. Got a decent sense of confidence now. I resisted for another 8 months before rebooking her. And then again a couple months later. But whilst I was sociable in my personal life, would often go to bars/clubs/pubs with people and had quite a few female friends, who had other female friends, that's all they were. Friends.

So then I started punting regularly. A new agency girl every 3-4 weeks. Some girls I'd see multiple times. And all the while in my private life missing the clues a girl would like me, or self sabotaging anything. I also became very picky. Why should I accept this girl whose my friends friend when she's no comparison to the latest £250ph British girl at one of my preferred agencies? Why should I spend time and effort on dates and gifts and all that stuff, when I can phone, turn up, shag and be home by 11?

I do go through periods of not seeing professionals. And I do find myself wishing that I could just have a normal relationship.But I cant for the life of me manage it. But if I didn't see the girls I do, then I would probably still be a virgin today.

Positives : I've experienced things that all of my friends have and probably will never. I've learnt a lot. I'm probably better than a lot of my friends at sex. Ive met some wonderful ladies, the vast majority of my bookings have been fun.
Negatives: I'm sat here in my flat alone. And I'm resigned to never getting married or having children (my parents already have grandchildren so at least I have no pressure) The sex is fun, but if you have underlying problems then it wont solve them.

With the current covid/lockdown bollocks can you really blame him for wanting to lose his v card to an escort? You can't exactly go to the the pub and try pull nowadays also Tinder/POF can be a hassle.

I've shagged girls from Tinder but it takes alot of work tbh.  it's fairly easy for me to get matches/numbers etc however getting birds on there to actually meet up with you is a fucking headache. Many say there down for meeting up but will then flake/cancel on you last minute. You're also competing with 100's of other men which makes it harder and have to send loads of messages before you find a girl thats interested, even then they can lose interest very fast if a guy they perceive as better than you comes along. If you're not extremely good looking then online dating isn't easy as people think, you pretty much have to play the numbers game before you strike out.

I'd rather just punt atleast you get to bang any girl you want without any of the bullshit and silly games involved that comes with dating.


OP I'm not much older than you but if it's something that's really getting on your nerves then I'd say go ahead, just don't confuse it with pulling civvies and always remember its purely a business transaction.

Fully agree on dating apps. They used to be good, but the last year they've nosedived in their usefulness. A lot seem to be plugging only fans type weblinks or Instagram accounts.

I've met and had many dates via girls I've met on them (which tells me I'm not hideous!) If we both like each other I can normally get to 3 or 4 dates before they fizzle out. But I've never slept with any of them! (The old fear of rejection of just making a move I guess) But most of the girls I've met are odd in one way or another. Can't hold conversations, fixate on what my job is, (how much money I make!) At least 3 have been literally begging for a baby in the next 3 months! There's the ones that flake on you the day before you planned to meet. The ones that just stop replying. And there's hundreds who are clearly just looking for attention, and have no interest in actually meeting up. At least 2 have had serious issues around intimacy. Plus a ton of them are clearly seeking unicorns, and a load of them are just not attractive to me. I don't mean in a supermodel way, I mean size 14s, or awful sleeve tattoos, those with multiple children, those who duckface. All of whom think they are amzing. The ones that always surprise me, are where we clearly have loads in common (eg. we'll do the same sport) we'll be within 5 miles of each other, we'll match and then she won't respond to a message???

[Zoph00]

You are 20 and know four other punters besides yourself? 

All of which are older than me, one is 21, two are 25 and one is 27.

[Henchmanlet95]

You are 20 and know four other punters besides yourself? 

Its more common among young men then you think, I'm 25 myself and know of 3 mates that have punted. All in the 22-27 range.

Sure they're not regulars like me but they have paid for sex at some point, mainly whilst pissed after a night out.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

"But most of the girls I've met are odd in one way or another. Can't hold conversations, fixate on what my job is, (how much money I make!) At least 3 have been literally begging for a baby in the next 3 months! There's the ones that flake on you the day before you planned to meet. The ones that just stop replying. And there's hundreds who are clearly just looking for attention, and have no interest in actually meeting up."

Christ! there seems to be a lot of truth in that!, even been there a lilttle myself and that includes older than the women who we usually tangle with as punters!

Oddities?, sure, can't hold conversations?,  Thats the scourge of most young women these days can't talk must text!

Can't says i 'd blame anyone for using a SP for a first sexual meet!

[Payyourwaymate]

I'm happy there's new young members confirming what me and Mace have been saying for a while.

[tynetunnel]

You are 20 and know four other punters besides yourself? 

All of which are older than me, one is 21, two are 25 and one is 27.

Its more common among young men then you think, I'm 25 myself and know of 3 mates that have punted. All in the 22-27 range.

Sure they're not regulars like me but they have paid for sex at some point, mainly whilst pissed after a night out.

Fair enough, point taken and thanks chaps for the clarity. I made my comment based on the fact that nobody other than my punter mates on here knows that I’m a punter, it’s a secret I’ll take to the grave. It actually amuses me because anyone who knows me in real life would never ever imagine that I punt! It’s been discussed on here before about whether to tell anyone about punting and most I seem to recall never discuss with anyone in real life, we are a secretive lot. Hence I was surprised that you openly know others who punt. Thanks for putting me right 

[Doc Holliday]

I'm happy there's new young members confirming what me and Mace have been saying for a while.

It has been an education for me reading threads like this in recent years. Thank God I was born when I was.

I spent seven years shagging my way through Sixth Form and University in the seventies before settling down with 'the one'. Back then the level of ‘promiscuity’ was probably very much lower than now, but losing that status, for both sexes, was so much more straightforward than it now appears to be.

We went to pubs, clubs and in particular student parties. Every weekend you could find many parties to choose from. We had no social media. The mobile phone was something from Star Trek. Few of us even had cars but we socialised 'in person' and generally in large social circles and had great fun. I worked hard and played hard.

Would never in a million years have considered my sex life wholly or partly involving prostitution. Personally I find it very worrying that way of life appears lost, if indeed that is the case?

[BillT]

... It’s been discussed on here before about whether to tell anyone about punting and most I seem to recall never discuss with anyone in real life, ...

Never, Ever, EVER tell anyone!

Way back when I started seeing girls. A friend was going through the end of a long term relationship he'd been in for a few years. And he told a few people that as he hadn't had anything for a while he went for a P&D punt. ALL, and I mean ALL, the girls in our social circle were horrified. And then they went out of their way to block him from, getting with anyone they knew. They just assumed that he was a walking case of every STD and STI known to mankind now.

I wasn't about to let on about my new hobby in any case, but the reactions made it even more clear it would be very unwise! I suspect telling people you were a virgin would have less stigma.

I wonder sometimes if my current social circle suspect I punt, they know I go on dates from time to time, but rarely do I get very far, so hopefully they just think I'm unlucky in love.

... Personally I find it very worrying that way of life appears lost, if indeed that is the case?

That's a big old can of worms! Probably a bit serious for this site