AdultWork feedback question..

[Spacer]

Hi all
I did a search on here to find an answer but could not see one.

Sometimes I see negative feed back on AW where the girl will respond “never met this guy”, or “this guy never made a booking” or something like that.

As far as I can tell, you cannot leave feedback for a WG unless she has accepted your booking.  So how is it that the punter can leave feedback for a girl who “never met this guy” ?

Hope you get my drift? 

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[last_days_of_logan]

either someone lieing or someone sent a booking request specifically to leave bad feedback...the recepient fucks a lot of ho's or gets fucked by so many punters that they forget who sent what when and just accepts it...before you know it someone is shitting all over your profile

[Happyjose]

Prossies lie

Especially shit prossies

Simple damage limitation

[Stevensmiles]

Which begs the question

Are there shit punters 

Do punters lie.

“”How was the gym dear”
“Fantastic workout love” ( four pints and two packets of crisps )

“Worked late at the office again I see. You do work so hard”
“Got the mortgage to pay dear” ( An hour of OWO, Mish then doggy)

I suppose the more successful a WG becomes on somewhere like AW. The more feedback she will receive. So statistically she will get more negatives as a result.... unless she’s fuckin perfect.
She has the right to reply to those negatives just the same as some escorts respond to the positives too.

[Lizzie_Lockhart]

If the feedback says Positive/Negative/Neutral then the WG has confirmed on AW that the booking took place. Either in error not knowing who made the booking or as damage limitation as above.

If it says Feedback Only, the client has sent through a booking request and the WG has not confirmed it.  This could be because the booking did not take place or it has been scheduled on AW (the step before being confirmed) or has been scheduled then unscheduled rather than confirmed if the WG suspects a negative is imminent.

Either way comments can be left and there's no way of verifying those or the circumstances of the booking.  When I'm screening AW clients I look for patterns to try and determine if a client or escort has a history of this kind of thing

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[Spacer]

Ok.

Thanks for the responses.

Much as I thought. 

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[NigelF]

Prossies lie

Especially shit prossies

Simple damage limitation

+1

Almost all prossie responses to negative feedback can be disregarded as bullshit.

Which begs the question

Are there shit punters 

Do punters lie.

“”How was the gym dear”
“Fantastic workout love” ( four pints and two packets of crisps )

“Worked late at the office again I see. You do work so hard”
“Got the mortgage to pay dear” ( An hour of OWO, Mish then doggy)

I suppose the more successful a WG becomes on somewhere like AW. The more feedback she will receive. So statistically she will get more negatives as a result.... unless she’s fuckin perfect.
She has the right to reply to those negatives just the same as some escorts respond to the positives too.

There is very little fake negative feedback from punters on AW (you can often confirm this by looking at UKP reviews), for many reasons, one being they're at risk of getting some in retaliation and it'll affect their ability to arrange bookings with other WG more than it would for the WG to get bookings from new punters.

Some girls with lots of positive feedback might get a very small number of negatives but quite a lot of girls don't (it seems more than you think even though they're definitely not perfect). Anyone with less than 95% positive feedback is likely to be crap. The only major exceptions are when girls have very low total feedback but on the flip side girls with lots of feedback (e.g. 200) who have 5% negatives (e.g. 10 negatives) are also likely to be shit (their negative % should be much lower). Of course, it does also depend on what the negative feedback if for, e.g. if it's just for no-shows/let downs then it doesn't necessarily mean her service and appearance is shit.

Having said all that, one fairly obvious reason that I don't think has been mentioned so far, is that the booking may have been confirmed before it actually took place (many WGs seem to do this) and then it never happened (for whatever reason, e.g. cancellation or radio silence from either party), so they might actually not have seen the punter but in those cases it's very unlikely the punter would have left unfair negative feedback. As I've said, in almost cases it's lies from the WG.

[tesla]

+1

Almost all prossie responses to negative feedback can be disregarded as bullshit.

There is very little fake negative feedback from punters on AW (you can often confirm this by looking at UKP reviews), for many reasons, one being they're at risk of getting some in retaliation and it'll affect their ability to arrange bookings with other WG more than it would for the WG to get bookings from new punters.

I have done this, left positive on AW and Neg on here, but only to stop retaliation and maintain my own positive AW feedback

[daviemac]

I have done this, left positive on AW and Neg on here, but only to stop retaliation and maintain my own positive AW feedback

If you haven't got the bottle to be honest and say it as it is on AW, why say anything at all. Surely it would be better to keep quiet than to make something up and mislead punters who don't know any better.

Is positive feedback on a site like AW really that important to you, is it some kind of ego thing.   

[Happyjose]

If you haven't got the bottle to be honest and say it as it is on AW, why say anything at all. Surely it would be better to keep quiet than to make something up and mislead punters who don't know any better.

Is positive feedback on a site like AW really that important to you, is it some kind of ego thing.   

+1

Never really got why some punters do this

It's misleading to other punters (who are not aware of this site) and could lead them to make a poor decision and waste their cash

If you're not leaving honest FB, leave none at all

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[Fat Bob]

Is positive feedback on a site like AW really that important to you.

Yeah, IMO. ...particularly if you are starting at ground zero and your goal is to punt with a wee cracker like Bethany Diamond.     External Link/Members Only

Q. Do you take bookings from clients with no feedback?   
A. No I do not. Please don't be offended but I value my safety and only see guys with at least 5 recent feedback.

[daviemac]

Yeah, IMO. ...particularly if you are starting at ground zero and your goal is to punt with a wee cracker like Bethany Diamond.     External Link/Members Only

Q. Do you take bookings from clients with no feedback?   
A. No I do not. Please don't be offended but I value my safety and only see guys with at least 5 recent feedback.

What a load of absolute bollocks, if you come across a genuine when you make contact they won't refuse your booking, feedback or not. Or you do get the odd one who won't then move on, there's plenty out there.

So from that you think it's acceptable to make fake feedback up, no matter where it's posted. No wonder there's so many prossies up their own arses and full of their own self importance.      

[Fat Bob]

So from that you think it's acceptable to make fake feedback up.   

Apologies if I have caused offence, this was not my intention.  No I don't think it is acceptable to make fake feedback up.
Caught between the devil and the deep blue sea, I would say.  I do not tell lies, however, I may not tell the complete truth, if that makes any sense.

[daviemac]

Apologies if I have caused offence, this was not my intention.  No I don't think it is acceptable to make fake feedback up.
Caught between the devil and the deep blue sea, I would say.  I do not tell lies, however, I may not tell the complete truth, if that makes any sense.

No offence to me, I just can't get my head around why, if you can't be honest about your experience, you have to say anything. To me it's very simple, if you're too frightened to leave honest feedback because you own feedback means so much to you, just don't post any about that booking. That way at least you aren't misleading other punters, you just aren't helping them.

I can understand why they say they only see people with feedback, as if that assures a decent punter, but like I said if you are genuine and come across that way when you make contact then they'll see you.

The only catch 22 situation is how do people get feedback when you need it before you can get a booking.   

[DaVINCI]

The only catch 22 situation is how do people get feedback when you need it before you can get a booking. 

You have to see a SP that doesn’t stipulate this requirement and build up your feedback accordingly.

Or in one of my situations, at the time, l only had 1 FB and the girl stipulated a minimum of 3 FB. She agreed to see me as l was travelling a very long distance and l have since seen her repeatedly.

If the SP had stuck to her guns, l might have never saw her (which l am glad as she was a good SP) l think in general, if a SP thinks you are genuine they tend to waiver / relax their rules.

[daviemac]

The only catch 22 situation is how do people get feedback when you need it before you can get a booking. 

You have to see a SP that doesn’t stipulate this requirement and build up your feedback accordingly.

I know that, I was being facetious.   The point I'm making is there's no real need to post false feedback on AW except to boost your own ego. It's better for punters if there's no feedback to read than to read something that comes across as a recommendation for someone that provides a poor service.

[DaVINCI]

I know that, I was being facetious.   The point I'm making is there's no real need to post false feedback on AW except to boost your own ego. It's better for punters if there's no feedback to read than to read something that comes across as a recommendation for someone that provides a poor service.

l totally agree, there has been a good few times l could have left NEG FB on A/W but there is no point. I just go straight to here and leave review accordingly.

[tynetunnel]

Like everyone else, I started out with zero AW feedback. I wondered, how am I to get any feedback if nobody will see anyone with zero. But they do, I guess WG’s get a sense of if you are someone they might take a chance on during comms. So no excuse for porkies in feedback just to up your own score!

[Rochelle]

+1

Almost all prossie responses to negative feedback can be disregarded as bullshit.

There is very little fake negative feedback from punters on AW (you can often confirm this by looking at UKP reviews), for many reasons, one being they're at risk of getting some in retaliation and it'll affect their ability to arrange bookings with other WG more than it would for the WG to get bookings from new punters.

Some girls with lots of positive feedback might get a very small number of negatives but quite a lot of girls don't (it seems more than you think even though they're definitely not perfect). Anyone with less than 95% positive feedback is likely to be crap. The only major exceptions are when girls have very low total feedback but on the flip side girls with lots of feedback (e.g. 200) who have 5% negatives (e.g. 10 negatives) are also likely to be shit (their negative % should be much lower). Of course, it does also depend on what the negative feedback if for, e.g. if it's just for no-shows/let downs then it doesn't necessarily mean her service and appearance is shit.

Having said all that, one fairly obvious reason that I don't think has been mentioned so far, is that the booking may have been confirmed before it actually took place (many WGs seem to do this) and then it never happened (for whatever reason, e.g. cancellation or radio silence from either party), so they might actually not have seen the punter but in those cases it's very unlikely the punter would have left unfair negative feedback. As I've said, in almost cases it's lies from the WG.

There are some odd people out there that do cry strange things. Some guys will lie and leave bad feedback, some will leave positive feedback even though they haven't met you, and we know some will leave positive feedback when it should be neutral or negative.
One of my first was a guy who gave me positive comments (feedback only as I didn't confirm the meeting on AW) even though we hadn't met. He cancelled and told me he wanted to leave me positive feedback anyway to help me as I was quite new and didn't have much feedback. I told him I wasn't confirming and I told him not to write anything, but he left the feedback anyway.

I remember quite some time ago I gave a guy negative feedback and I just wrote one word...disingenuous. He retaliated and left feedback saying I was one to avoid. Guess what happened quite a few months later? He contacted me again to arrange a meeting, apologized for before, offered to pay me a deposit so I would know he was serious. He offered the fee in full, I told him I just wanted £50 but he sent me the whole fee anyway.
On the night of the meeting, I waited for thirty minutes, he didn't contact me and I couldn't reach him so I left. The guy threw away £250 quid. Well, great for me obviously, but just goes to show there are weird things that happen.

[Rochelle]

The first line should say 'very strange things', not 'cry'. Bloody Swype sometimes...

[hardrock89]

Adultwork  website changed difficult to search.are you experiencing any problem

[daviemac]

Adultwork  website changed difficult to search.are you experiencing any problem

Whose feedback are you searching for.   

[TailSeeker]

Hi all
I did a search on here to find an answer but could not see one.

Sometimes I see negative feed back on AW where the girl will respond “never met this guy”, or “this guy never made a booking” or something like that.

As far as I can tell, you cannot leave feedback for a WG unless she has accepted your booking.  So how is it that the punter can leave feedback for a girl who “never met this guy” ?

Hope you get my drift? 

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You can leave feedback without a confirmed booking, but you can't leave a rating.

But AW feedback should always be taken with a heafty pinch of salt. People trade it, but WGs and punters. So it is always best to cross reference here.

[Spacer]

Thanks Tailseeker.

I needed this recently as I was stood up by an escort.  I could not leave negative feedback because she did not confirm the booking but atleast I can now leave some feedback to state she is a potential time waster.

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[Fuzzyduck]

I know that, I was being facetious.   The point I'm making is there's no real need to post false feedback on AW except to boost your own ego. It's better for punters if there's no feedback to read than to read something that comes across as a recommendation for someone that provides a poor service.

I totally agree with your point, but you have to remember that AW is not primarily for punters; AW's paying customers are the SPs. The site and feedback system are designed to optimise SP earnings, not give punters objective information to make good decisions. That is why UKP is so important.

I generally don't bother with AW bookings and only make one if it is really insisted upon, which is fairly rare I've found. If I do, I'll leave positive feedback for a good punt, but won't bother if it's poor. I just won't see them again, and I'll leave a review here.

Personally, I don't give a monkey's what feedback Fat Bob gives on AW (work the system if you want to); what I do care about is that feedback on here is honest and objective. So what so you say Fat Bob, any reviews in the pipeline?

[Fat Bob]

Personally, I don't give a monkey's what feedback Fat Bob gives on AW (work the system if you want to); what I do care about is that feedback on here is honest and objective. So what so you say Fat Bob, any reviews in the pipeline?

I wish to add that I applaud the fact that feedback on here is honest and objective; a truly invaluable litmus test regularly used as a yardstick by newbies like me.