Pussy Wank

[brandonpete]

I'm very partial,as I'm sure many of you are,but equally,as age,Viagra little or no effect due to continual usage, blood pressure tabs and of course perfunctory or little interest from SP, have played quite an effect on my punting...I've also become very partial to rubbing Mr Softy against or just in between her Labia. Having read a couple of threads that sort of touch on this subject....does having a Pussy Wank constitute as being a BareBack equivalent.
It's been a while since I last did this,as like 'Fingering' a lot of WG's don't or won't do it "saying it makes them sore"...I've had clear 'Gum' reports since the last time. I actually,and perhaps naively,hadn't given it a thought,as regards the safety aspect.So I would appreciate your thoughts.

[Bonker]

I think it's close enough to be risky.

[daviemac]

.does having a Pussy Wank constitute as being a BareBack equivalent.

In my opinion it does and is very risky, a bit like 'hotdogging' it's bare genital contact.

[brandonpete]

Daviemac...Bonker...... thanks lads

Amazing what you learn..in 37 yrs of punting..Hot dogging I had to look up on the Urban dictionary as I had to for Pussy Wank.
Punting can be a lonely 'sport'...so really thanks should go to Admin and whoever started UKP...or I would never have known,

[myothernameis]

I've also become very partial to rubbing Mr Softy against or just in between her Labia.

Is it worth the risk, so you start out all floppy, rubbing against her labia and clit, you get erect, and the escort gets wet, and with out a word from her, she mounts you, and takes your bareback cock inside her, and you enjoy it

[webpunter]

Pussy slides are very difficult to resist
Especially from massage burds who are oiled up
I don't think johnsons provides much protection !

Even more difficult when having nuru massages 

Have had this a few times with massage girlies who [supposedly] don't offer FS
I've figured that this lowers the risk ratio
A little
You ain't gonna catch the big one however with other stuff much higher risk
Have come a cropper once only, with thrush
My helmet was extremely fucking very very very itchy & resembled a traffic light.  On red obviously 

Go & see NicoleDuPapillon in MK
And tell us all if your cock falls off the following week

[S.X. MacHine]

I'm  not sure I'd agree with the OP's assumption that long term use of Viagra leads to reduced effectiveness. He may be drawing a false analogy with antibiotics.
Be that as it may, the risks in 'hotdogging' (every day is a school day) involve specific STIs, namely syphillis (thankfully still rare in heterosexuals), genital warts and molluscum contagiosum.
Perhaps someone with real medical knowledge would care to comment.
I guess a lot of WGs would scream blue murder if you tried to hotdog them.

[brandonpete]

Sexmachine ..I was stating actuals...I've been using prescribed Viagra for nearly 5 yrs...and it's effect on me now is minimal....I've never Hotdogged only Pussy wank/Swipe,as I was led to believe my habit was called.
Myothernemisis...Only once did I get hard doing it...and yes the SP said "oh go on if you want,but come on my belly/tits,but nope,put on the bedside 'sleeping bag' and fucked wearing that.

[Doc Holliday]

This is another one where we are into theoretical largely unproven risks, but overall this is considered a low risk activity.

Strictly speaking hotdogging is penis between bum cheeks. Genital to genital contact is often also referred to as frotagge, although this in turn more usually refers to penis to penis contact which many gay men practice because it is considered a very low risk activity.

Penis to vulva contact is considered low risk. HIV is considered almost zero. Infected vaginal fluids could pose a risk of other STIs eg clamydia but once again most authorities consider this low risk of transmission.
The greater risk is with Herpes and HPV viruses and to a degree syphilis which do not rely on bodily fluid transmission but on skin to skin contact. Of course even with a condom on there is still a risk in the case of these viruses.

If the activity leads to penetration for any length of time then the goal posts are moved slightly.

[Doc Holliday]

I've been using prescribed Viagra for nearly 5 yrs...and it's effect on me now is minimal....

It's more likely just that you are five years older and whatever is causing your ED has worsened? Tolerance to drugs reducing their efficiency is well known, but I believe this is considered a low rate phenomenon for Sildanefil?

Dependence is another question altogether!!

[BigBoi1955]

There is a logical progression argument you should consider

If a sp allows you to pussy wank then there is a high probability she is a barebacker

If she is a barebacker then there is a higher probability she is infected

If she is infected then there is a possibility of infecting you.

Herpes and genital warts are both highly infectious but there are others.

[Doc Holliday]

There is a logical progression argument you should consider

If a sp allows you to pussy wank then there is a high probability she is a barebacker

If she is a barebacker then there is a higher probability she is infected

If she is infected then there is a possibility of infecting you.

Herpes and genital warts are both highly infectious but there are others.

I see the logic in that progression, but all transmission risks are usually based on the assumption that one participant is infected.

[Baldy]

Ok

Can some one explain hotdogging please ?

I’ve had three explanations on google .

1.placing you knob in a hot dog bun and texting a picture to your loved one

2. Slicing the tip of you knob with a razor blade - really !

3. Sticking a hotdog sausages in microwave and sticking up someone Jackie

[BigBoi1955]

I see the logic in that progression, but all transmission risks are usually based on the assumption that one participant is infected.

A transmission risk is only present if there is the possibility that someone is infected so I'm not sure the point you are making.

[myothernameis]

Ok

Can some one explain hotdogging please ?

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[Doc Holliday]

A transmission risk is only present if there is the possibility that someone is infected so I'm not sure the point you are making.

Apologies yes your statement is better worded than mine and I should have said "could be infected" and not "is infected"

[Belgarion]

I'm very partial,as I'm sure many of you are,but equally,as age,Viagra little or no effect due to continual usage, blood pressure tabs and of course perfunctory or little interest from SP, have played quite an effect on my punting...I've also become very partial to rubbing Mr Softy against or just in between her Labia. Having read a couple of threads that sort of touch on this subject....does having a Pussy Wank constitute as being a BareBack equivalent.
It's been a while since I last did this,as like 'Fingering' a lot of WG's don't or won't do it "saying it makes them sore"...I've had clear 'Gum' reports since the last time. I actually,and perhaps naively,hadn't given it a thought,as regards the safety aspect.So I would appreciate your thoughts.

You would struggle to find an SP who is not a bare backer or incredibly naive that will offer this service.

I enjoy it as well but have only done it in relationships.

I stopped doing nut massages when I nearly slipped in to the provider.

Why not put a condom on and get some lube around it and try it this way

[holeymoley]

This is another one where we are into theoretical largely unproven risks, but overall this is considered a low risk activity.

Strictly speaking hotdogging is penis between bum cheeks. Genital to genital contact is often also referred to as frotagge, although this in turn more usually refers to penis to penis contact which many gay men practice because it is considered a very low risk activity.

Penis to vulva contact is considered low risk. HIV is considered almost zero. Infected vaginal fluids could pose a risk of other STIs eg clamydia but once again most authorities consider this low risk of transmission.
The greater risk is with Herpes and HPV viruses and to a degree syphilis which do not rely on bodily fluid transmission but on skin to skin contact. Of course even with a condom on there is still a risk in the case of these viruses.

If the activity leads to penetration for any length of time then the goal posts are moved slightly.

This is virtually word for word, what was said to me on my recent visit to the GUM clinic ( routine check - negative test )

[Doc Holliday]

This is virtually word for word, what was said to me on my recent visit to the GUM clinic ( routine check - negative test )

It was a pleasure to meet you last week 

[holeymoley]

Hmmmm - thought so

[Baldy]

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Picture paints a thousand words , burger sauce anyone .

[Bonker]

Brown sauce
Or refried beans 

[webpunter]

Then clean up with swarfega

Brown sauce
Or refried beans 

[justdesserts]

'Hotdogging' - Fuck me I've learnt something new today!!!!

[Retep64]

Brandon Pete If you don't mind telling me, can you use Viagra with hbp tablets? I thought you couldn't use them together. What hbp tablets do you take?

[daviemac]

Brandon Pete If you don't mind telling me, can you use Viagra with hbp tablets? I thought you couldn't use them together. What hbp tablets do you take?

I would ask your doctor, what's ok for him might not be for you. I'm on heart meds and my doc did 7 different blood tests before he prescribed it for me.

[Thecunninglinguist]

I would ask your doctor, what's ok for him might not be for you. I'm on heart meds and my doc did 7 different blood tests before he prescribed it for me.

I would endorse seeing a doctor 100%. I am on BP meds and am lucky ED pills don't affect me too much but for me Calais is better as there is no flushing, headache etc and more effective. but that's me YMMV
If you are of a "certain age" they are free on script anyway.

[brandonpete]

Retep 64...I take candesartan 16 mg once a day.....Viagra is also prescribed by my Doctor.

[Retep64]

Thanks guys. I will heed your advice.

[Winker121]

It was a pleasure to meet you last week 

Brilliant!

[webpunter]

+2 Brilliant 
Great to have a Doctor in the House

It was a pleasure to meet you last week