Is Punting Shite at the moment or is it just me

[Ali Katt]

yip. seems everywhere in society women are given a high value by men and allowed to behave in a manner some might regard as a bit "rich"..

As men lose interest in civvies with such over-inflated ego's and sense of worthiness, they move their attentions to the class of females more likely to give something of value in return for, well, cash primarily..

Which, since females are moving that way at a slower rate.. Will increase prices..

Females who move into the professional sector don't necessarily lose their annoying self-centredness.. but the reasonable man would hope they would see the good business sense of being reasonable and polite . Or at least realise they have to understand the difference between punting and dating..

But seems some punters can't help themselves.. 

TBH I've yet to see a boom in punters admitting it publicly. With regards Tinder it is pretty much another dating site and not an easy way to get a shag.

[Wooderz]

tinder is a waste of time for most blokes I am sure. I'm certainly seeing an increase in willingness for folks to express an interest in pro's, privately amongst male friends for sure and definately on line.

No surprises stigma is still too high for many..

[workinallweek]

 After today and half a bottle of Brandy  yep its shite ....

[Ali Katt]

After today and half a bottle of Brandy  yep its shite ....

We keep lying to ourselves. How good where those £50 Polish, Hungarian and Lithuanian girls really? It was as much of a crapshoot as it is today, just double the price now. Then we had pretty much the same few girls seeing the majority of punters or where I was the same parlour girls working in every parlour, or how about those website you clicked on and most of the time it was moonfruit page which had been suspended. It was as crap then as it was now or it was as great then as it is now, depending on how full your cup is.

[Flunt]

We keep lying to ourselves....

Maybe there is a UKP type of influence where we read everyone else having a great time with a wide array of services and we're looking for something similar. The good old days where the pro$$ie was pleasantly attractive, a welcoming smile and a basic service, delivered with aplomb, at a price which didn't break the bank.

A brief description gave you a broad inclination of what to expect on arrival with no real idea of what you'd get in the way of services, was part of the excitement. Now we're lured in with photo shopped images or B&S, the price may or may not be for what's on offer, with a collection of extras. Instead of a simple transaction with your mind on the job at hand, the big brain kicks in and you're in a negotiation.

Personally I have never been as well off or paid as much, instead of a day's pay to have some fun it costs me half a day. Price is not my biggest issue, or it wouldn't be if the pro$$ie looked like the image I'm attracted to and she provided the services I'm paying for.

[Ali Katt]

Maybe there is a UKP type of influence where we read everyone else having a great time with a wide array of services and we're looking for something similar. The good old days where the pro$$ie was pleasantly attractive, a welcoming smile and a basic service, delivered with aplomb, at a price which didn't break the bank.

A brief description gave you a broad inclination of what to expect on arrival with no real idea of what you'd get in the way of services, was part of the excitement. Now we're lured in with photo shopped images or B&S, the price may or may not be for what's on offer, with a collection of extras. Instead of a simple transaction with your mind on the job at hand, the big brain kicks in and you're in a negotiation.

Personally I have never been as well off or paid as much, instead of a day's pay to have some fun it costs me half a day. Price is not my biggest issue, or it wouldn't be if the pro$$ie looked like the image I'm attracted to and she provided the services I'm paying for.

TBH I'm from the days after Sunday Sport adverts and tart cards, but bait and switch is nothing new from what I've read.

I'm into more kinky things so there is always negotiation involved. Most of the time its fine. Too vague, no booking simple as. Agree the prices have gone up, I'm not sure how much comparitively though. I was probably less well off when I started, but paid less in bills and stuffs, but I was willing to spend £150 an hour back then, not anymore. I think I've maybe got smarter with it.

[Flunt]

I suppose I'm with the jaded crowd at the moment. Reflecting on my punting career, it was OK when I started and gradually moved on from HE to full service which was like riding the crest of a wave. Over time there were a few disappointments, the influx of EEs made life very interesting as did the discovery of AW.

From the dizzy heights and suffering a few grim tales I started trying to research and found UKP, all was well in the world of Flunt. Maybe I've done all the things I want to do and there's no great enticement for the cash required.

[Ali Katt]

I suppose I'm with the jaded crowd at the moment. Reflecting on my punting career, it was OK when I started and gradually moved on from HE to full service which was like riding the crest of a wave. Over time there were a few disappointments, the influx of EEs made life very interesting as did the discovery of AW.

From the dizzy heights and suffering a few grim tales I started trying to research and found UKP, all was well in the world of Flunt. Maybe I've done all the things I want to do and there's no great enticement for the cash required.

It did become a box ticking exercise for me when about a year after I first started; I've fucked a Polish girl - what's next? A Romanian. Then a Thai. Or the joys of doing anal again. Now I see it more of services, but as fluffy as it may sound, who I think I will get on with and who I want to spend time with, rather looks driven or as I say box ticking. Taking about a two year break really did help.

[Flunt]

It did become a box ticking exercise for me when about a year after I first started; I've fucked a Polish girl - what's next? A Romanian. Then a Thai. Or the joys of doing anal again. Now I see it more of services, but as fluffy as it may sound, who I think I will get on with and who I want to spend time with, rather looks driven or as I say box ticking. Taking about a two year break really did help.

Time is money though.

I enjoyed overnights and moved on to SA where sex is more of a seduction process (yes, I know I'm paying for it) but in most cases it was with a pro$$ie who chose to take my money (as opposed to taking anyone's money). In the end, the negatives outweighed the positives and a RB would achieve the same result for roughly the same amount of money. (Just wondering if I would get many takers now for £350-400 overnight on AW).

I pulled a Filipino bird last year and stayed in touch, had a great time on holiday earlier this year. I also had the Moroccan GFE last year which included her having a hissy fit and sulking for a day before fucking off early!

I had seven punts last year, one shit whose profile disappeared before I could review, a regular I saw five times (reviewed, although she's no longer on AW) and another disappointment.

I'd sooner travel now than punt...

[workinallweek]

We keep lying to ourselves. How good where those £50 Polish, Hungarian and Lithuanian girls really? It was as much of a crapshoot as it is today, just double the price now. Then we had pretty much the same few girls seeing the majority of punters or where I was the same parlour girls working in every parlour, or how about those website you clicked on and most of the time it was moonfruit page which had been suspended. It was as crap then as it was now or it was as great then as it is now, depending on how full your cup is.

Maybe shouldnt post after a heavy drinking session     . Just a day when the plans went wrong , the sort of day when you ask yourself the question 'why?' . Obviously you know the answer You (in my case) want some time with a woman you feel attracted too can have a good time with and leave thinking about the next time .
I have been a fan of regulars for a while as i cant stand the let downs of a crap punt so when these go wrong its a double bummer  . i suppose the answer would be a plan B but unless a bottle of brandy counts i didnt have one . Oh well heres to the next one    ,waiting for a date now .

[Ali Katt]

Maybe shouldnt post after a heavy drinking session     . Just a day when the plans went wrong , the sort of day when you ask yourself the question 'why?' . Obviously you know the answer You (in my case) want some time with a woman you feel attracted too can have a good time with and leave thinking about the next time .
I have been a fan of regulars for a while as i cant stand the let downs of a crap punt so when these go wrong its a double bummer  . i suppose the answer would be a plan B but unless a bottle of brandy counts i didnt have one . Oh well heres to the next one    ,waiting for a date now .

I've had this with a regular way way back it was a case of familiarity breeding contempt, plus it was her umpteenth retirement. With new girls I usually have less fun if I hold back or I get too nervous and just don't gel with her.

[workinallweek]

I've had this with a regular way way back it was a case of familiarity breeding contempt, plus it was her umpteenth retirement. With new girls I usually have less fun if I hold back or I get too nervous and just don't gel with her.

yep i hope thats not  the case  and i do know that they have some shite going on at the moment, so call me fluffy but .......

[Ali Katt]

yep i hope thats not  the case  and i do know that they have some shite going on at the moment, so call me fluffy but .......

The one I saw about 8 years ago went from being a laugh, to being mardy. Only option is to give her a break or move on, I know punting is different from normal jobs as emotions are involved more, but what is happening in her personal life shouldn't be burdened on you.

[Laney08]

Thing is with all the shit punts and attitude that you can come across - most WGs have their fair share of shit punters that time waste or boundary push or whatever.

I remember getting an outcall off of a girl who turned out to be a complete porn star goddess but who would literally not leave the taxi until I came out and got her as she'd had so many experiences of turning up and being bailed on or radio silence.

There's problems on both sides of the punting fence that make the game shittier than it should be. Sooner the whole thing gets legalised the better. Not saying the shit will go away but there's sure to be less.

[Wooderz]

Thing is with all the shit punts and attitude that you can come across - most WGs have their fair share of shit punters that time waste or boundary push or whatever.

I remember getting an outcall off of a girl who turned out to be a complete porn star goddess but who would literally not leave the taxi until I came out and got her as she'd had so many experiences of turning up and being bailed on or radio silence.

There's problems on both sides of the punting fence that make the game shittier than it should be. Sooner the whole thing gets legalised the better. Not saying the shit will go away but there's sure to be less.

Considering it currently ISN'T illegal.. how will "legalising" change anything for the better?

[Guesswork]

Thing is with all the shit punts and attitude that you can come across - most WGs have their fair share of shit punters that time waste or boundary push or whatever.

Difference is they can just put up with the crap and get paid. We put up with the crap and are out of pocket. Big difference.

I'm a bit too fluffy but treat all the girls I'm with respectfully and respect boundaries. I'll push it if I think they're taking the piss, but will never push someone into doing something they don't want to do.

For this I expect a decent, good value for money service in return. It's not a lot to ask.

[CockMonster]

Difference is they can just put up with the crap and get paid. We put up with the crap and are out of pocket. Big difference.

I'm a bit too fluffy but treat all the girls I'm with respectfully and respect boundaries. I'll push it if I think they're taking the piss, but will never push someone into doing something they don't want to do.

For this I expect a decent, good value for money service in return. It's not a lot to ask.

So many truths in here - it's not my fault their chosen profession is potentially unpleasant, but there's no need to take that out on me and others who are nothing but nice and civil, it's not our fault.  If you have some shit clients and treat everyone who walks through the door like they will be as well, you are alienating your customer base and also completing a self-fulfilling prophecy of your own making...

[Laney08]

Difference is they can just put up with the crap and get paid. We put up with the crap and are out of pocket. Big difference.

I'm a bit too fluffy but treat all the girls I'm with respectfully and respect boundaries. I'll push it if I think they're taking the piss, but will never push someone into doing something they don't want to do.

For this I expect a decent, good value for money service in return. It's not a lot to ask.

I don't buy they can get paid all the time. True indies and genuine WGs as opposed to pimp'd, trafficked or scam/ripoff artists must have expenses just like everybody else and little in the way of safety net. If they get ill or break a leg or need time off there's no sick pay or compo to tide them over unless they have a side-job, sugar daddy or something.

From a certain perspective seems like sports - they've only got a few years of making serious money. Most other jobs your earning power goes up over the years but with hoes it's the opposite. It's a nutty job in a lot of ways with all the potential for everything from disease to getting robbed.

As I say if it was legal and respectable there'd be easier chance of punters getting money back as there'd be standards, better security for hoes too. The whole bit about getting good service is all well and good to say but having a punt is good for hoes and going to the races for a reason - it's a risky business at the mo which  is a shame for genuine punters and WGs alike.