What’s going on in London?

[Dreyfus]

I was based here for over 15 years until 2018.  I punted intensively and those were amazing times. Whether at agencies or on Adultwork you could find some serious and plentiful model-like material. The 2008-2016 period particularly stands out in memory for the dozens of wonderfully fit and playful ones I would repeatedly visit.  I could mention (many) names, but those of you who were around back then will remember.  Fit, slender, young wonderful sluts.  Now I come back from time to time and I can’t believe my eyes.  What is this crap ? A bunch of over tattooed, overweight, curvy and aging cows.  What’s going on? Has taste really changed and worsened this much? Do you only want Kardashians now? I realize of course that “supplies” from Russia and Ukraine have dwindled.  But back at those times some my best ones where actually from Poland, Czech Rep, Baltics and Romania.  But it was a completely different body type as well as, I dare say, level of sophistication.  I’m astonished.  But, on the good side, I no longer have any FOMO about missing out on the London escort scene…

[jamiekinkxxx]

I feel your pain and remember the early 00's to mid teens with fondness.

There are still some gems out their (even on AW) but you need to dig / look deeply. X is a wonderful source of great SPs but they are not cheap.

[Bangman]

I agree. I, too enjoyed punting around 2005 to 2015 the most. Like you rightly said, there was lots of pretty, fit escorts that gave good service and prices were much better. Mainly Polish and baltic girls, but there was still a good choice of Chinese and Latin wgs too.

Here's my 3 reasons, my opinions.

1. I personally think brexit (and covid made it even worse) had a effect. It could of de motivated European escorts to come UK. I recall a few chats I had with some of the polish wgs when brexit started, they looked so disappointed.
Hence why less Europeans and more Brazilians and Thai currently.

2. Cost of living. London is just way too expensive I.e rent.

3. Sugar daddy and websites like seeking. I believe potential escorts who would of advertised on adultwork instead have seen the market and learnt it may be better to try other sugar daddy websites, less work, more money.

Some of the more wealthier guys are happy to gift and overpay girls and I beleive this has contributed to a rise in poor service and more expensive prices. How comes Most of the English girls are on these sites rather then adultwork.

[Dreyfus]

I agree with the 3 possible reasons stated above and I was thinking along the same lines.  As cynical as that may sound, one of the main reasons I think is that those EE countries are doing a lot better know and so girls, rightly so, have better options.   Or, as you said, can aim higher and be more selective.  Whatever the cause, that era is gone

[hendrix]

I only really like Brits (with extreme pse service level) and that market has certainly dwindled, but still a few top performers.

[petermisc]

Things were already going downhill before Brexit.  I think the crash in the value of the pound after the referendum had a lot to do with it.  I can recall several WGs complaining that the amount of money they were earning, when converted to their home currency, had significantly reduced.  Coupled with the other factors already mentioned, means that London is no longer the magnet for foreign SPs that it once was.

Also, while many suffered financially during the pandemic, undeniably there were many whose outgoings reduced dramatically, and were left with significant cash to burn when things started getting back to normal.  With a reduced supply of SPs, and punters with more cash than sense, this inevitably led to a hike in prices, particularly for agency girls.  The prices for agency girls in London sre now so high for what is on offer, that, other than the Thai agencies, I no longer use them.

[Pleasure4ever]

I think the main factor which none of you mentioned is Demographics in EE.
 Baby Boom from 1970 to 1990 caused a lot of unemployment in the 1990 to 2015.
Then as the EE countries joined EU and their economies improved the unemployment went down from 20% to the current 2.5%, and wages went up but the birth rate dwindled.
That explains the Boom of the 2004-2016 and Bust of post Brexit.

[Steely Dan]

Oh the good old days! Back when the streets were paved with gold and a pint was a pound.  Victoria's Secrets models escorting all over the place for £100/hour. All doing OWO and anal for no extra. And you could stay for an extra hour for free.  And they even didn't take time off for the shower!

This could be a moan from 2012.  Since this forum was opened, posters have said it was better in the old days. Pick a year - it was better 10 years ago. (Like fusion power in reverse)

I will share a different view: These are the good old days!  OK things are not the same.  But considering inflation (how many punts for a month's heat or 100 litres of milk) prices remain crazy low.  You might need to shell out AS IF prices were not so low is all.   TPC is still only £160.  Agencies vs AW not as crazy as before.  And look at the reviews on the only objective measure in the universe: UKP.  The ratio of Green to Red is as good as ever.  Ok, there may not be 500 Polish escorts with their green light on.  But there are enough Polish escorts (and Thai/Brazillian/British/Canadian/others) to keep your wick wet for life.  What is that line? Get on yr bike.

It is not the same.  But it is good nonetheless.

Just my view.

[pbj46]

I was based here for over 15 years until 2018.  I punted intensively and those were amazing times. Whether at agencies or on Adultwork you could find some serious and plentiful model-like material. The 2008-2016 period particularly stands out in memory for the dozens of wonderfully fit and playful ones I would repeatedly visit.  I could mention (many) names, but those of you who were around back then will remember.  Fit, slender, young wonderful sluts.  Now I come back from time to time and I can’t believe my eyes.  What is this crap ? A bunch of over tattooed, overweight, curvy and aging cows.  What’s going on? Has taste really changed and worsened this much? Do you only want Kardashians now? I realize of course that “supplies” from Russia and Ukraine have dwindled.  But back at those times some my best ones where actually from Poland, Czech Rep, Baltics and Romania.  But it was a completely different body type as well as, I dare say, level of sophistication.  I’m astonished.  But, on the good side, I no longer have any FOMO about missing out on the London escort scene…

The younger, fitter, more attractive ones are now on Seeking, charging more for less work.  It's gone from a low margin volume business to a high margin luxury one.

[southcoastpunter]

I will share a different view: These are the good old days!  :
It is not the same.  But it is good nonetheless.

these maybe the good old days for those of us that are still around and active in 10 years time!! As you say, every year, people say its not as good as it used to be! whether it is or isn't, we all live in the "now" so we have to find a way to make it work for us!!

The younger, fitter, more attractive ones are now on Seeking, charging more for less work.  It's gone from a low margin volume business to a high margin luxury one.

yep, Seeking has changed - i had a mid 20's lady that i messaged give a nice reply but basically saying she gets lots of approaches and offers from fit, good looking early 30's guys!! Seems to be more younger guys on Seeking nowadays! But as above, we have to find a way to make it work for us!!

[Bangman]

Apart from seeking.. another joke of a website that many girls are using and some are making a fortune is only fans.
All the girl has to do, is take some photos of herself..and there ate guys out there who will pay to see these photos.
This really baffles me..i mean, there was a time where i bought porno magazines and later porn videos on vhs in the late 80s and 90s as there was no other choice...BUT NOW we live in a time where There is plenty of free porn out there.

[Colston36]

Apart from seeking.. another joke of a website that many girls are using and some are making a fortune is only fans.
All the girl has to do, is take some photos of herself..and there ate guys out there who will pay to see these photos.
This really baffles me..i mean, there was a time where i bought porno magazines and later porn videos on vhs in the late 80s and 90s as there was no other choice...BUT NOW we live in a time where There is plenty of free porn out there.

How do you know girls are creaming it with that? And your last sentence suggests they aren't.

[akauya]

Apart from seeking.. another joke of a website that many girls are using and some are making a fortune is only fans.
All the girl has to do, is take some photos of herself..and there ate guys out there who will pay to see these photos.
This really baffles me..i mean, there was a time where i bought porno magazines and later porn videos on vhs in the late 80s and 90s as there was no other choice...BUT NOW we live in a time where There is plenty of free porn out there.

Making a fortune in OnlyFans is mostly a myth propagated by OnlyFans themselves and the content creators who obviously want to create hype to get more subscribers. The reality (as reported by those in the know) is far from this, whilst there are a few (very few) content creators racking up loadsamoney in OF the vast majority get very modest (if any in some cases) income. Add to that they also have to pay OnlyFans a percentage of their "fortune".

The ones who get quite good income are the already established bona fide porn stars who already made name for themselves and are expanding their brand. Relatively unknowns wouldn't be able to complete with the well known creators in fame or quality of content they produce. The top earners (the ones you wouldn't be able to punt) have photographers, make up artists, editors, etc. Some relatively hot girl from next door has very little chance of making it big up there.

[Bangman]

Ok. my bad,.. I read a few comment's about girls making good money on social media and a TV clip somewhere but can't recall. I've never been on the website and I don't know anyone on it.. so my comment was based on assumption, I guess I'm wrong.

[akauya]

Ok. my bad,.. I read a few comment's about girls making good money on social media and a TV clip somewhere but can't recall. I've never been on the website and I don't know anyone on it.. so my comment was based on assumption, I guess I'm wrong.

Not at all. I believed the hype too until I read up a bit and also like you said in your previous post - why pay for OF when there's plenty of free porn. Of course OF is aimed at a different market - it appeals mostly to men who like to make a "connection" with the model/content creator, etc.

I met a person who was on OF (a student) and they told me whilst they made some money (helped to pay some small expenses) it wasn't really an income.

[Alexmck]

I'm of the same view as OP and some others above. What's available now is generally a lot less attractive for me but I guess times change. Shame as I liked what was available before. I get that tastes and fashions change but would be nice if they brought some of it back or kept it for some of us with older fashioned tastes

[Stevelondon]

Maybe it’s just me being me.
I’ve always tried to go with the flo.

Don’t have enough money Steve. Well fuckin work harder or figure out ways to get more.
You can tell I’m not one of those spiritual types…. “Money does not buy you happiness my friend”

Well it’s bloody brought me a lot of something similar and being skint wouldn’t have done that.  😂

I’ve enjoyed myself over the years in this punting lark and I’m not complaining as to how things are now.
Is it any different really from what it was like 30-40 years back.
Yes it is.

With AI it will probably be a whole lot different in the future……… but I’m not going to be caring by then.

Get on with life…….. or don’t. 😂🤷🏼

[jamiekinkxxx]

I am not sure  why some have included £££ into this. I didn't read the OP's intro as a moan about £££ just the quality of ladies.

Personally as I mentioned I tend to agree, although as I also mentioned, they are out there, you just need to look harder.

BUT, as other have said, times change, maybe as we get older, we are stuck a little in the past 

[LLPunting]

@SteelyDan and @Bangman

We review what we get in the market today 'cuz punters gotta fuck.  The quality is not there either in looks or services at a given price point comparing one decade to the next.  Having found "Gwen" masseuse is escort "kylie" on another thread I glimpsed the Admiral and Dior line-ups and the girls (and picture quality) there seemed almost identical to the offering of 20 years back but now those girls are billed at 200-600 ph when none would've been touting for more than 150ph back then.  If it was just inflation and everyone was paying the adjusted rate without quibble then there should be an awful lot of reviews for girls that would be 150 old money.  a quick search for "diorescorts.com" returns what seems like a long list but the most recent 20 results take you back to Oct '21!  Admiralescorts 30 since Jan '22; 
Diva seems to be the only agency doing rollicking business with vocal UKPers...  perhaps there're a lot of others keeping schtumm.
Online CPI calc tells me 150 then is 280 now, not seeing that being overwhelmingly reflected in number of reviews.  Conversely 150 today equates to 80 then, not seeing that reflected either.

[Stevelondon]

I am not sure  why some have included £££ into this. I didn't read the OP's intro as a moan about £££ just the quality of ladies.

Personally as I mentioned I tend to agree, although as I also mentioned, they are out there, you just need to look harder.

BUT, as other have said, times change, maybe as we get older, we are stuck a little in the past 

Your right. I lost the plot when I wrote that post. Blame it on the wine.

What I was attempting to say though the fog was pretty similar to what you’ve just put.
As well as saying times change, things change. Punting is not the same as it was back when etc.
Go with that flo. 👍🏻

[tazz]

Making a fortune in OnlyFans is mostly a myth propagated by OnlyFans themselves and the content creators who obviously want to create hype to get more subscribers. The reality (as reported by those in the know) is far from this, whilst there are a few (very few) content creators racking up loadsamoney in OF the vast majority get very modest (if any in some cases) income. Add to that they also have to pay OnlyFans a percentage of their "fortune".

The ones who get quite good income are the already established bona fide porn stars who already made name for themselves and are expanding their brand. Relatively unknowns wouldn't be able to complete with the well known creators in fame or quality of content they produce. The top earners (the ones you wouldn't be able to punt) have photographers, make up artists, editors, etc. Some relatively hot girl from next door has very little chance of making it big up there.

Lots now use Loyalfans where they can also do cam sessions. Theres also lots of findoms so dont need to be escorts.

[petermisc]

This could be a moan from 2012.  Since this forum was opened, posters have said it was better in the old days. Pick a year - it was better 10 years ago. (Like fusion power in reverse)

It certainly wasn't always better in the old days.  As someone old enough to remember what punting was like pre-internet, I would definitely not say things were better then.  When all you had to go on was small ads, contact magazines and phone box cards.  And of course almost all the SPs were British, as this was before we joined the EU.  I still have a couple of those old contact mags from those days, and you flip from page to page thinking you wouldn't touch any of them with a bargepole.

What followed was a decade or so, from the early 2000s to the mid 2010s, when London was the place to be for both SPs and punters.  The affluence of the place was drawing in SPs from all over, but in particular from the EU.  I look at the lineup in the likes of Diva now, and there is no comparison with the lineup of Polish and Thai beauties that I was seeing regularly back then. Admittedly the roster is considerably larger than it was in those days, but the quality is generally far lower (unless you are into sullen trout-lipped waifs).  The constant influx of girls kept prices relatively static for most of that decade, although I recall that the base £150 did creep up to £180 for the top flight girls.  But that was the all-inclusive price, there was no charging extra for anything back then, not even for anal.

I have just had a pleasant half hour or so looking back at some of my punting records from those days, bringing back pleasant memories of that glorious decade.  If any of those girls were to reappear, I would be there like a shot, they eclipse any of today's offerings hands down.  I can well understand why the OP is sorely disappointed by the current London scene in comparison.

Yes, you can still get a good punt in London now.  But you have to put in a lot more work, do a lot more research, and pay significantly more (particularly after all the extras are added on), with much less certainty of a good outcome.

[jimbobted]

Some relatively hot girl from next door has very little chance of making it big up there.

I'm not so sure about that. A girl I saw a few times (since left the game) had been on onlyfans a few years before. She only did lingerie and bikini stills but made enough from it to pay her rent.

[jamiekinkxxx]

I think people are delusional if they think LoyalFans, OnlyFans etc are a girls golden ticket.

The first bigger is the 30% + commission paid to the platform
The second is the sheer volume of competition
Thirdly the time and effort it will take to keep the page up to date, relevant and with new content in order to keep those monthly subs joining and then renewing. One off video may generate income from those who do not wish to subscribe
Most guys tend to want to watch girls that have some exposure rather than just random girls that they have never heard of.

There is a girl that I have seen (escorting) that has a LoyalFans page that she started back in November. Advertises it very heavily on X (formally Twitter) and FetLife. One-off video's cost $7 to $12. Monthly membership is $20. She has 76 fans (and 'fans' do not = monthly subscribers, just people that 'follow' her) for all her hard work.

I know that she personally spend a heck of a time doing content, setting up, filming and editing. I doubt she is making much more than the living wage per hour of effort she puts into it.

[Makka124]

I think people are delusional if they think LoyalFans, OnlyFans etc are a girls golden ticket.

The first bigger is the 30% + commission paid to the platform
The second is the sheer volume of competition
Thirdly the time and effort it will take to keep the page up to date, relevant and with new content in order to keep those monthly subs joining and then renewing. One off video may generate income from those who do not wish to subscribe
Most guys tend to want to watch girls that have some exposure rather than just random girls that they have never heard of.

There is a girl that I have seen (escorting) that has a LoyalFans page that she started back in November. Advertises it very heavily on X (formally Twitter) and FetLife. One-off video's cost $7 to $12. Monthly membership is $20. She has 76 fans (and 'fans' do not = monthly subscribers, just people that 'follow' her) for all her hard work.

I know that she personally spend a heck of a time doing content, setting up, filming and editing. I doubt she is making much more than the living wage per hour of effort she puts into it.

Correct it’s like only 2% are actually making profit as they will have to pay tax on just like the government plan on people making money on eBay

[Alexmck]

What followed was a decade or so, from the early 2000s to the mid 2010s, when London was the place to be for both SPs and punters.  The affluence of the place was drawing in SPs from all over, but in particular from the EU.  I look at the lineup in the likes of Diva now, and there is no comparison with the lineup of Polish and Thai beauties that I was seeing regularly back then. Admittedly the roster is considerably larger than it was in those days, but the quality is generally far lower (unless you are into sullen trout-lipped waifs).  The constant influx of girls kept prices relatively static for most of that decade, although I recall that the base £150 did creep up to £180 for the top flight girls.  But that was the all-inclusive price, there was no charging extra for anything back then, not even for anal.

.......But you have to put in a lot more work, do a lot more research, and pay significantly more (particularly after all the extras are added on), with much less certainty of a good outcome.

Strongly agree with both points. Might have to put on my rose tinted glasses 

[puntingking]

I agree. I, too enjoyed punting around 2005 to 2015 the most. Like you rightly said, there was lots of pretty, fit escorts that gave good service and prices were much better. Mainly Polish and baltic girls, but there was still a good choice of Chinese and Latin wgs too.

Here's my 3 reasons, my opinions.

1. I personally think brexit (and covid made it even worse) had a effect. It could of de motivated European escorts to come UK. I recall a few chats I had with some of the polish wgs when brexit started, they looked so disappointed.
Hence why less Europeans and more Brazilians and Thai currently.

2. Cost of living. London is just way too expensive I.e rent.

3. Sugar daddy and websites like seeking. I believe potential escorts who would of advertised on adultwork instead have seen the market and learnt it may be better to try other sugar daddy websites, less work, more money.

Some of the more wealthier guys are happy to gift and overpay girls and I beleive this has contributed to a rise in poor service and more expensive prices. How comes Most of the English girls are on these sites rather then adultwork.

Two words - ONLY FANS

Why have the hassle of seeing punters face to face when you can make an income by subscribers via digital platforms.
Also more and more wgs are leaving face to face services to do webcaming and phone sex.

But more to the point that this have been talked about to death on this forum. It will continue to be talked about for many years to come. The situation will likely get worse as escorts retire and not enough escorts entering this industry.

[puntingking]

I was based here for over 15 years until 2018.  I punted intensively and those were amazing times. Whether at agencies or on Adultwork you could find some serious and plentiful model-like material. The 2008-2016 period particularly stands out in memory for the dozens of wonderfully fit and playful ones I would repeatedly visit.  I could mention (many) names, but those of you who were around back then will remember.  Fit, slender, young wonderful sluts.  Now I come back from time to time and I can’t believe my eyes.  What is this crap ? A bunch of over tattooed, overweight, curvy and aging cows.  What’s going on? Has taste really changed and worsened this much? Do you only want Kardashians now? I realize of course that “supplies” from Russia and Ukraine have dwindled.  But back at those times some my best ones where actually from Poland, Czech Rep, Baltics and Romania.  But it was a completely different body type as well as, I dare say, level of sophistication.  I’m astonished.  But, on the good side, I no longer have any FOMO about missing out on the London escort scene…

best period was 2012 - 2016.
good period was 2017 - 2018
down spiral period was 2019 - 2020
worst period is 2021 - present moment.

This is only my observation though.

[petermisc]

Two words - ONLY FANS

Why have the hassle of seeing punters face to face when you can make an income by subscribers via digital platforms.
Also more and more wgs are leaving face to face services to do webcaming and phone sex.

Have you read replies #23 and #24 above?

[puntingking]

Have you read replies #23 and #24 above?

just now. I posted this before I read those two replies. Hence I thought only fans have not been brought up in this conversation. But thanks for alerting me of those replies. 

[petermisc]

best period was 2012 - 2016.
good period was 2017 - 2018
down spiral period was 2019 - 2020
worst period is 2021 - present moment.

This is only my observation though.

How do you rate pre-2012?  My records show that the good time started well before 2012.

[puntingking]

How do you rate pre-2012?  My records show that the good time started well before 2012.

I started in the year of 2011- 2012 so my knowledge prior to that is almost non existent.
I do wish we can go back to that time frame though

[WestMids74]

What's going on in London? Sadiq Khan.

Oh, sorry, were we talking about the state of punting...

[puntingking]

What's going on in London? Sadiq Khan.

Oh, sorry, were we talking about the state of punting...

not sure why you feel you needed to make a political point. The politics thread on the off topic section is for that. 

[Massivepig]

20-25 years ago there used to be more Czech, Polish, Baltic and Hungarian ladies who were mostly excellent. Apart from the Polish crowd they started disappearing ca. 2010. The economic opportunities in their home countries must have improved to a point that coming to London/UK no more made sense. Or the supply lines from those countries became disrupted for whatever reason.

They all started to be replaced with Romanians and Moldovans with a well-documented drop in general service levels. I think Brexit made the UK an unattractive destination for the remaining Polish providers - heard from a couple of them to that effect.

Since Russia invaded Ukraine, I’ve noticed fewer ladies from those countries and many more Brazilians.

Glad I got to live the noughties. The upside is that I spend a lot less on escorts than I did back then, inflation adjusted or not.

[southcoastpunter]

What's going on in London? Sadiq Khan.

Oh, sorry, were we talking about the state of punting...

not sure why you feel you needed to make a political point. The politics thread on the off topic section is for that. 

yep - especially as you risk getting a ban for making political comments in any other thread! I think he meant it as a joke - but why risk it!!

[puntingking]

20-25 years ago there used to be more Czech, Polish, Baltic and Hungarian ladies who were mostly excellent. Apart from the Polish crowd they started disappearing ca. 2010. The economic opportunities in their home countries must have improved to a point that coming to London/UK no more made sense. Or the supply lines from those countries became disrupted for whatever reason.

They all started to be replaced with Romanians and Moldovans with a well-documented drop in general service levels. I think Brexit made the UK an unattractive destination for the remaining Polish providers - heard from a couple of them to that effect.

Since Russia invaded Ukraine, I’ve noticed fewer ladies from those countries and many more Brazilians.

Glad I got to live the noughties. The upside is that I spend a lot less on escorts than I did back then, inflation adjusted or not.

London is still by far the best city in the UK for escorts.
also though AW is becoming worse overall for the amount of good providers on that site, agencies such as Diva has plenty of good providers. We should be grateful is not worse to be honest 

[JackSaint]

In my opinion the deterioration is due to many of the factors listed above but attitude is a huge factor, back in the day even the best girls generally had a great attitude and wanted to deliver a good time. These days the "me" generation often perform like they are doing you a favour in their quest to go to a restaurant or bar to post another pout on Instagram. This probably goes for the managers/pimps too, who only want the cash and can't be bothered to filter or train their hookers or even guide them. Compare and contrast to the likes of Globe in Zurich (I know it's a club rather than a one on one punt) where the bosses set high standards for appearance, engagement and performance, on my recent visit there were 50 girls, I'd be happy to punt the vast majority and every single one I came into contact with had the right attitude.

[saymyname]

Like any job it boils down to pay and conditions and for Thai girls (which is the only sector I really know), the UK is no longer the most attractive destination. Consequently, the best girls do not come here, and both quality and quantity goes down.

In terms of pay, prices have hardly changed, yet sterling has depreciated substantially and cost of living has increased massively.

With respect to conditions, UK immigration has become a lot tougher, crime has got a lot worse, and there is increasing hostility towards people of South-East Asian ethnicity post-COVID.

[Alexmck]

In my opinion the deterioration is due to many of the factors listed above but attitude is a huge factor, back in the day even the best girls generally had a great attitude and wanted to deliver a good time. These days the "me" generation often perform like they are doing you a favour in their quest to go to a restaurant or bar to post another pout on Instagram. This probably goes for the managers/pimps too, who only want the cash and can't be bothered to filter or train their hookers or even guide them. Compare and contrast to the likes of Globe in Zurich (I know it's a club rather than a one on one punt) where the bosses set high standards for appearance, engagement and performance, on my recent visit there were 50 girls, I'd be happy to punt the vast majority and every single one I came into contact with had the right attitude.

Strongly agree. Feels like it's what the punter can do for the girl nowadays

[JustaPunter]

not sure why you feel you needed to make a political point. The politics thread on the off topic section is for that. 

You don’t think the increased cost of living, reduction is people’s disposable income, rapid increase in rental prices and massive increase in journey times for those who drive hasn’t had an effect on punting and the prices charged by the SP that are still working?

[gamebred]

I was thinking the same thing the other day about how the quality has dropped massively. I loved punts from the same period you mentioned, 2008-2016.  Back then you also had brothels that featured lineups involving european girls, I loved that. Nowadays just mainly brazilian/columbian setups.

[puntingking]

You don’t think the increased cost of living, reduction is people’s disposable income, rapid increase in rental prices and massive increase in journey times for those who drive hasn’t had an effect on punting and the prices charged by the SP that are still working?

public transport is just as good.

[Jeffers77]

I think the cost of renting in London (and on top of that the difficulty in finding places) has had a huge impact, rent has soared as has the population. Combined with Covid lockdowns which both reset *everything* (girls went home and didn't ever return) and pushed up the price of everything (including rent).

[petermisc]

You don’t think the increased cost of living, reduction is people’s disposable income, rapid increase in rental prices and massive increase in journey times for those who drive hasn’t had an effect on punting and the prices charged by the SP that are still working?

It is when you attribute all those factors to a particular politician that it becomes a political issue.

[jaqenthebox]

It's abysmal, quality dropped off a cliff, brexit, cost of living definitely has contributed.

[Yankee21]

Seeking and Only Fans.

[salazar]

Whether quality has waned or not, I really couldn't say. What does get me is the enormous price hike of the last 3 years. After lockdown, my first punt (May 2021) was an overnight with an ex-Max girl and her partner. Everything bar anal was included. 1250 quid each. How come in 3 years, ladies of this calibre are up to 2k and upwards? That's 3 years, not a decade!
Nevertheles, it seems that hourly rates haven't gone up at that rate and it tends to be the longer bookings some of us enjoy which have take the brunt of the increase. What do the rest of you think?

[PilotMan]

Whether quality has waned or not, I really couldn't say. What does get me is the enormous price hike of the last 3 years. After lockdown, my first punt (May 2021) was an overnight with an ex-Max girl and her partner. Everything bar anal was included. 1250 quid each. How come in 3 years, ladies of this calibre are up to 2k and upwards? That's 3 years, not a decade!
Nevertheles, it seems that hourly rates haven't gone up at that rate and it tends to be the longer bookings some of us enjoy which have take the brunt of the increase.

What do the rest of you think?

I think that having spent £2,500 on a punt, it would have been worthy of a review.

[Punting2022]

Whether quality has waned or not, I really couldn't say. What does get me is the enormous price hike of the last 3 years. After lockdown, my first punt (May 2021) was an overnight with an ex-Max girl and her partner. Everything bar anal was included. 1250 quid each. How come in 3 years, ladies of this calibre are up to 2k and upwards? That's 3 years, not a decade!
Nevertheles, it seems that hourly rates haven't gone up at that rate and it tends to be the longer bookings some of us enjoy which have take the brunt of the increase. What do the rest of you think?

Lockdown kept the rich  away. Now they can spend and come here, the girls can overcharge like they want. Simple fact is, someone will pay them their stupid prices so why not. There is a cost of living, but wages have gone up. I actually have more spare cash in my wallet this year then i did last year. But its for me, I will book a treat but the maximum a whore gets from me is 350 per hour if i want high class.