Ripped off: a cautionary tale

[cjkany2015]

+1 pointless thread if no name and shame.
Tap Dancer isn't relevant, she ripped you off and may do the same elsewhere.

[Stealthshagger]

Sadly, both cancer and depression are pretty common, and I've had plenty of experience with both.  So this isn't a wind-up (and if anyone thinks I've made up all of this for some bizarre reason, my Adultwork emails would prove otherwise, I could give Adam and Nik access to my AW account to verify).

Meanwhile this thread is giving me a chance to "vent" somewhat... and maybe it will encourage the escort to do some thinking when she reads it.


For instance: among the many things I don't understand about this... where did the rage come from?

She didn't actually blacklist me until after my visit to her apartment, she'd just been ignoring all my messages until then.  But then she went ballistic.  I later spotted the fact that every single email I had ever sent her (right back to the run-up to our first meeting) was flagged as "deleted", and she had even deleted some UKP PM's we had exchanged... as if she was trying to erase me from existence.

But what did she expect?  I was only doing what I had to do: what she had forced me to do, by refusing to answer my messages for so long.  If any other escort had done that to me, I would have given up on her and moved on: but she had my money.  So how did she think that was going to work out?  And why flip out when the inevitable finally happened?  Yes, I was rather harsh with her, but I was the one who actually had a reason to be pissed off... what was her problem?

How could she ever possibly have imagined that I would just quietly "walk off into the sunset", and leave her all that money... without ever knowing why???

Really, "mental illness" is the only explanation that sounds even vaguely plausible.  Somehow she was incapable of understanding the consequences of her actions, or was so wrapped up in her own little bubble of misery that she couldn't think about anything else:  until I popped her bubble and she flipped out.

punch yourself in the teary vagina next time you feel like sharing. Useless bullshit.

things we learnt from youonlybelievehisbullshitonce:
he is a fluffy falling in love with courtesans of the nighttime variety
gives a 1300 loan to someone who vanishes and eventually tells him to fuck off, etc and doesnt want to warn others in case it harms her livelihood
is in denial still
hopes for true love in a tale of fraud, theft, scamming stories, prostitution and being tolf to fuck off.


yougotdonemanytimes I suggest you stop punting. This story is so transparent, it is hardly the da vinci code, and she is no bourne identity here.  Your fluffiness means punting is as wise for you as  your vaginal pyramid scheme was. Seriously, you need to cease punting. like stephen hawking paintballing, you are a very easy mark and they probably see you a mile off.

[west8]

The 'cancer' part was the giveaway. But we're not all cold-hearted sceptics, so sometimes it doesn't hurt to give even a stranger the benefit of the doubt.

Heck, I even give my change to the pretend homeless guy who is ALWAYS outside a certain local shop. He has a shiny iphone, a well-groomed dog and is always clean-shaven.

But if he has the time and bollocks to sit there all day for £50, that's his business. FUCK sitting in office all day like 85% of the sad cunts who probably walk past him.

[CBPaul]

Yet another post detailing how a prossie is a thief / dangerous and presumably should be avoided followed by refusal to post a link and ending with the inevitable accusations of the OP being bullshit. 

OP if this is true then you were well and truly suckered. She spotted you as a good, soft  target and played you well. Surely the buy 1 get 2 free offer should have rung alarm bells. Then to keep you at arms length and ensure you don't start making trouble she plays the cancer card.

Obviously you were never going to post a link - not because she may have cancer but because you don't want the repercussions of having a pissed off prossie after you. A link isn't that necessary though, most of us would never lend a prossie money and so wouldn't be done over like you have been. Instead we will do what most punters do - go and pay the going rate, have a session and leave.

I'm curious though - you got an inheritance but can now only divert £100 a month for punting. Excluding the 1300, did you punt your way through the entire windfall ? If so perhaps you need to re-evaluate punting in general. 

[dboy74]

Whether this "guy" is a time waster or a fantasist this is a completely pointless thread!

[Simon S]

What a mug.

[PumpAction]

Sadly, both cancer and depression are pretty common, and I've had plenty of experience with both.  So this isn't a wind-up (and if anyone thinks I've made up all of this for some bizarre reason, my Adultwork emails would prove otherwise, I could give Adam and Nik access to my AW account to verify).

Meanwhile this thread is giving me a chance to "vent" somewhat... and maybe it will encourage the escort to do some thinking when she reads it.


For instance: among the many things I don't understand about this... where did the rage come from?

She didn't actually blacklist me until after my visit to her apartment, she'd just been ignoring all my messages until then.  But then she went ballistic.  I later spotted the fact that every single email I had ever sent her (right back to the run-up to our first meeting) was flagged as "deleted", and she had even deleted some UKP PM's we had exchanged... as if she was trying to erase me from existence.

But what did she expect?  I was only doing what I had to do: what she had forced me to do, by refusing to answer my messages for so long.  If any other escort had done that to me, I would have given up on her and moved on: but she had my money.  So how did she think that was going to work out?  And why flip out when the inevitable finally happened?  Yes, I was rather harsh with her, but I was the one who actually had a reason to be pissed off... what was her problem?

How could she ever possibly have imagined that I would just quietly "walk off into the sunset", and leave her all that money... without ever knowing why???

Really, "mental illness" is the only explanation that sounds even vaguely plausible.  Somehow she was incapable of understanding the consequences of her actions, or was so wrapped up in her own little bubble of misery that she couldn't think about anything else:  until I popped her bubble and she flipped out.

Any sympathy I had for you is long gone. You sound like a complete sap. She took your money over a year ago and you're now "venting" with this rambling nonsense. If you're not going to expose her, just shut up and get over it.

[Cornish sub]

I wanted to go to the hospital, but she didn't want me there (no makeup, she "looked terrible" etc.)

She forgot to mention in her list of excus.... , sorry, I mean reasons for not wanting you there was that she wasn't actually in hospital at all. You should've called her bluff, told her you don't care that she has no makeup on or whatever and that you're setting off now to visit her, "See you in xxx minutes."
 

[The happy one]

Really sorry got bored trying to read all the posts

Did he name her in the end. That is the only thing let to do.

Was there other posts on another thread where the same prozzie had done the name to a couple of other clients

[blackpunter]

I was really feeling sorry for you as I read the beginning of the story but as the story went on and you continued to make excuses for her my sympathy declined. It reached the zero point when you refused to name and shame her despite numerous punters asking you to do so. Someone robs all that money from you and you are still concerned about their career and well being? You are an idiot, not because of your mistake of lending money to a wg (everyone makes mistakes) but because of your actions or lack thereof after being scammed.

[Matium]

Not much of a cautionary tale if Youonlyliveonce is not going to tell us who it is who's being cautioned against.

The best thing Youonlyliveonce can do is forswear punting until he realises that it is a business transaction only.

[kefcseries]

The OP didn't start this thread for our benefit. It's a thinly veiled attempt for him to re-establish contact with the WG who robbed him.

[James999]

If she actually exists, just sounds like a load of mae up bollocks to me 

[akauya]

I'm curious though - you got an inheritance but can now only divert £100 a month for punting. Excluding the 1300, did you punt your way through the entire windfall ? If so perhaps you need to re-evaluate punting in general.

That's exactly what I was thinking. First he says he got a windfall then later that he was short of cash. It couldn't have been much of a windfall then, unless he was visiting courtesans in between lending money to prossies

[YouOnlyLiveOnce]

Yet another post detailing how a prossie is a thief / dangerous and presumably should be avoided followed by refusal to post a link and ending with the inevitable accusations of the OP being bullshit. 

OP if this is true then you were well and truly suckered. She spotted you as a good, soft  target and played you well. Surely the buy 1 get 2 free offer should have rung alarm bells. Then to keep you at arms length and ensure you don't start making trouble she plays the cancer card.

Obviously you were never going to post a link - not because she may have cancer but because you don't want the repercussions of having a pissed off prossie after you. A link isn't that necessary though, most of us would never lend a prossie money and so wouldn't be done over like you have been. Instead we will do what most punters do - go and pay the going rate, have a session and leave.

I'm curious though - you got an inheritance but can now only divert £100 a month for punting. Excluding the 1300, did you punt your way through the entire windfall ? If so perhaps you need to re-evaluate punting in general.

Initially I had £10,000..  She got £1300, then about £4000 went on general punting, then £2000 on car repairs, leaving about £3000.

For those who are urging me to give up punting: this was an expensive lesson, but I learned it well, nothing like this will ever happen again.  I have now greatly cut back on how often I punt, I'm not about to blow the rest.

[akauya]

But I think it's fair to say that I am now "cured"!  And I've carried on punting since.

I cringed through most of your posts on this thread and still not sure whether you are a wind-up or not but if you say you are "cured" why are you not naming the prossie in question?

I really don't know what you were expecting from UKP; a group hug perhaps? As you probably noticed (I hope you did anyway) we are not here for group therapy. We are here to share good and bad experiences and if some of the experiences are bad really bad then warn other members in case they get stung too and give them the full details to avoid scamming prossies.

What you did posting this thread would be fine to warn perhaps newbie punter of the pitfalls of our hobby if they end up getting too emotionally involved with prossies.

What you did wrong is post the thread as a warning but not giving the details of this prossie who really looks like a dangerous one to get involved with. Without the link to the prostitute who scammed you your post is just a story just like many others floating about on the internet... i.e. take it with a pinch of salt.

[YouOnlyLiveOnce]

The OP didn't start this thread for our benefit. It's a thinly veiled attempt for him to re-establish contact with the WG who robbed him.

Yes, there is an element of that.  She is a UKP member.  She will read this thread.

This isn't over.

[Matium]

UKP member!!!!!

Who?

You've got to name her now!

Don't you realise what you've just done?

You've put every girl on UKP under suspicion!

[west8]

Yes, there is an element of that.  She is a UKP member.  She will read this thread.

This isn't over.

Assuming that the story is genuine, what would you like to happen next?

[maxxblue]

Yes, there is an element of that.  She is a UKP member.  She will read this thread.

This isn't over.

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[PumpAction]

Yes, there is an element of that.  She is a UKP member.  She will read this thread.

This isn't over.

Oooh. I bet she's scared. It's been over a year you prick. Just let it go.

[Stealthshagger]

clearly learnt nothing.

[akauya]

Yes, there is an element of that.  She is a UKP member.  She will read this thread.

This isn't over.

It certainly isn't! For the sake of the good female members of UKP you have to name her now. Otherwise, as Matium said, all you do is put every girl on UKP under suspicion and that is just not on!

[Sir Lance-a-lot]

Predictable.  Every time a punter reports being scammed,  he gets attacked for it.

There actually IS a pretty good chance that she had cancer, or something suspected of being cancer.  And while that doesn't excuse what she did,  she has exploited the goodwill of a guy who has obviously had too many traumatic experiences with cancer in the past.

And let's not forget that she threatened his family .

But I've heard a rumour about a Bristol-based WG with an "ear problem", I will try to find out more. FWIW, this  one hasn't posted on UKP for a long time, though she's showing a fairly recent login.

I am single, and untouchable.  I can do what he cannot.

[west8]

Predictable.  Every time a punter reports being scammed,  he gets attacked for it.

No-one attacked the OP for getting scammed.

He has rightly been criticised for his cowardice in failing to name the alleged scammer.

[PumpAction]

I am single, and untouchable.  I can do what he cannot.

Thanks Poirot. Don't take too long though as we may lose interest.

[CBPaul]

Really sorry got bored trying to read all the posts

Did he name her in the end. That is the only thing let to do.

Was there other posts on another thread where the same prozzie had done the name to a couple of other clients

No he didn't and no she hasn't 

[SamLP]

Either a big fluff or a big troll.

Fell for the "I need the deposit money desperately"
Fell for the 20 free punts promise
Fell for the I'm in hospital coughing blood trick

Keeps assuming she has cancer with no proof apart from the trick she pulled on him
Stupidly gives her more money

Realises he got fucked over but doesn't out her in February because he cares for her career 

Yep, fluffy or troll

[Steve2]

No sympathy whatsoever from me, anyone who lends a prostitute £1000 should be sectioned under the mental health act.   

As should anyone who tells a prostitute to increase her prices

 

[Sir Lance-a-lot]

Update: definitely a positive ID on the girl, no more info on the "ear problem" yet.

Guys, it's starting to look quite plausible that her "cancer" wasn't a scam.  Apart from YouOnlyLiveOnce, is there anyone else here who would object to taking down a genuine cancer patient under these circumstances?

My view is that, cancer or no cancer, she brought this upon herself.  She could still fix this, but she must suffer the consequences if she fucks that up.

This fucking idiotic soap-opera must end.

[Sir Lance-a-lot]

BTW, does any UKP member have access to medical records of cancer patients in the Bristol area?

If so,  PM me.

[PumpAction]

BTW, does any UKP member have access to medical records of cancer patients in the Bristol area?

If so,  PM me.

Are you on a wind-up?

Probably the most idiotic thing i've read on this site and that's saying something.

[password02]

BTW, does any UKP member have access to medical records of cancer patients in the Bristol area?

If so,  PM me.

Getting into dangerous grounds with clients private medical records so many issues such as Data Protection and discussing private medical records, IMO too bigger risk where it may come back to haunt you. Personally I would not go down that route EVEN in PM

[Stealthshagger]

BTW, does any UKP member have access to medical records of cancer patients in the Bristol area?

If so,  PM me.

stay off that track, and dont go back on it. stay well away from that path you are heading down, its wrong on so may levels, and stupid on so many levels. Sinister and illegal shit like this is not welcome here.

[Dani]

UKP member!!!!!

Who?

You've got to name her now!

Don't you realise what you've just done?

You've put every girl on UKP under suspicion!

This was one of the reasons I said to name and shame as until he does every one of us prossies who post on here is a suspected con merchant who will then threaten to out the punter to the Police and therefor his family too.  This pisses me off quite a bit as it rightly should. 
If the Op is genuine he needs to name and shame now if only so that the suspicion doesn't fall on all of us prossies.  If he doesn't name and shame I would take it as made up bullshit by some kid to end his school holidays on a high note knowing he caused many of us to fall under suspicion

[Dave2014]

My understanding is that you cannot sue a WG. Although paying a WG for sex is not illegal, it is not an activity that has legal protection. I'd be interested to hear from fellow punters from the legal profession on their views.

Paying for sex is not illegal. A punter can, therefore, enter into a contract for sexual services (e.g. a punter gives money to a WG in exchange for the provision of sexual services by the WG to the punter). A punter cannot, however, sue for breach of contract if the punter has paid money to a WG and she then fails to provide the sexual services (this is for public policy reasons):

1.  You can sue anyone for the non-payment of a loan (WG or not - as that is not a contract for the provision of sexual services).

2.  You cannot sue anyone for a breach of a contract for sexual services.

See my earlier post on p.1 of this thread for my analysis of the nature of the payment which passed between the OP and WG in question. Reading the OP's story - it was not a loan but an advance payment in respect of a contract for sexual services - which means he cannot recover the advance payment despite her having breached the terms of the contract (i.e. failed to provide the sexual services).

[west8]

Paying for sex is not illegal.

Yet ... 

[johnny34]

BTW, does any UKP member have access to medical records of cancer patients in the Bristol area?

If so,  PM me.

WTF.....No No No

[Sedlmayer]

BTW, does any UKP member have access to medical records of cancer patients in the Bristol area?

If so,  PM me.

Fuck me - this is the most fucked up, stupid thread I've ever read anywhere on the whole fucking internet 
Fuck off you stupid fucking troll cunt 
Wouldn't surprise me if you and the OP were the same fucking inbred cunt 
Please can this thread get locked - our enemies will have a bloody field day with Sir Cunt a Lot 

[Sir Lance-a-lot]

OK, this is what I have:

I know someone who knows someone who knows her in "real life".  Obviously that's all I'm saying about my source.

About 6 months ago I heard that she'd been spending time in hospital with an "ear problem", possibly a tumour.

Get REAL, folks.  Do we break the privacy of a probable cancer patient, and post that information up on here?

Yes, or no?

Fuck me, I don't know how YouOnlyLiveOnce put up with this for a YEAR.

Get real.  Cut the "let's just assume this is a scam" cop-out.

[punk]

BTW, does any UKP member have access to medical records of cancer patients in the Bristol area?

If so,  PM me.

your joking  what part of the world you from?

[Bigus Dickus]

OK, this is what I have:

I know someone who knows someone who knows her in "real life".  Obviously that's all I'm saying about my source.

About 6 months ago I heard that she'd been spending time in hospital with an "ear problem", possibly a tumour.

Get REAL, folks.  Do we break the privacy of a probable cancer patient, and post that information up on here?

Yes, or no?

Fuck me, I don't know how YouOnlyLiveOnce put up with this for a YEAR.

Get real.  Cut the "let's just assume this is a scam" cop-out.

Stop being drama queen and tell us!

[stayer]

Puntico is right. You made prepayments, not loans, expecting 33 sessions instead of 13. This perhaps should have been a warning flag as she was effectively promising to charge just £40 per hour for the 33 sessions. But you only got four at a cost of £325 each, thus making you feel as if you lost £225 per session totalling £900.

This is obviously highly undesirable but you made two upfront payments at your risk. Having said that, she has woefully uderdelivered, so name her and move on.

[CBPaul]

BTW, does any UKP member have access to medical records of cancer patients in the Bristol area?

If so,  PM me.

As someone put on another thread...

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A pointless thread turns into an insane thread, access to medical records FFS 
Thankfully 99.9 % of UKP members aren't this stupid.
Or aren't bored at the end of half term.
Hopefully

[Matium]

BTW, does any UKP member have access to medical records of cancer patients in the Bristol area?

If so,  PM me.

BTW, does any UKP member fancy going to jail for breaking the Data Protection Act?

[YouOnlyLiveOnce]

While I disagree pretty strongly with Sir Lance-a-lot on this, I have to say that he's right about what this means.

Given that I now have independent confirmation that her cancer is probably genuine, it's time to end this witch-hunt.  This is getting out of hand.

This is someone who only posted a few times, ages ago.   She is NOT a current regular poster on UKP.  And it doesn't seem likely that she will ever be able to do this to anyone else.... especially now.

Admin, please lock this thread.  Call ma a "fluffy cunt" if you like.  I have moved on.  Others have been warned not to get into this mess with anyone, and the escort who did this will understand how close she came to complete disaster.  That might get a result.

End this insanity.

[Sedlmayer]

stay off that track, and dont go back on it. stay well away from that path you are heading down, its wrong on so may levels, and stupid on so many levels. Sinister and illegal shit like this is not welcome here.

No - indeed it's not so fuck off you moron

[Jimmyredcab]

As should anyone who tells a prostitute to increase her prices

 

For the 464th time I would do the same under identical circumstances, no doubt in my mind.

[OldAdmin]

Well today Scarlette xxx reported a Nov2014 PM to me claiming it is 'abusive', after a trap question which she fell into I can announce she is the one responsible for this ripped off warning.

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[west8]

Wow, just goes to show that some WGs do indeed seem to live in a parallel universe.

Scarlette xxx really tripped herself up with this thread. Shame as she looks HOT.