Get a punting phone!!! Man caught texting WGs by pregnant wife

[dobob]

Excuse me if I am being slow, but how did she get into his phone if he had set a password on it?

[webpunter]

Slow ?
You have fossilized

Excuse me if I am being slow, but how did she get into his phone if he had set a password on it?

[GingerNuts]

Slow ?
You have fossilized

I can't see an explanation of how the wife ended up with the husband's phone in an unlocked state.

[webpunter]

There are various ways, the list is endless

I can't see an explanation of how the wife ended up with the husband's phone in an unlocked state.

[GingerNuts]

There are various ways, the list is endless

Of course there are ways but how it happened on this occassion is not explained which is what dobob was saying.

As an aside, when you reply is there any chance you could post in the usual and sensible order, quote first and your reply after?

[webpunter]

As an aside, when you reply is there any chance you could post in the usual and sensible order, quote first and your reply after?

No

[webpunter]

Of course there are ways but how it happened on this occassion is not explained which is what dobob was saying.

Fair enuf, however our besties @ MN are unlikely to divulge

[daviemac]

Of course there are ways but how it happened on this occassion is not explained which is what dobob was saying.

I must have missed it, where did it say his phone was locked or that she didn't know the password/code. 

[big-al93]

I couldn't be arsed to wade through all of it, but managed the first 4 pages,

Her sister's husband had been caught out sexting with somebody, bloke asked her to plug his phone in, either he had no passcode/security or she knew it. decided to take a look and messages from escorts and cam girls on there "hidden" as customers, guy runs a garage, so alfa amy ect. Really wanted it to be Elouise Escort 
She only found a few messages and no replys from the escort. All fairly forgivable so far, no evidence that anything actually happened although intent was pretty clear, not that the man haters over at MN were in a very forgiving mood. Very much being Hung, Drawn and Quartered was too good for him.

However from her updates and we are obviously only hearing one side of the story, I hope he's not one of us. After he was sleeping (on the couch obvs) she went down and took the phone to check for more messages and he realised and went upstairs, grabbed her, bruising her wrists, wrestled the phone out of her hands and threw it across the room. Has been violent in the past, and was once arrested for hitting her in the street. That was before any kids were involved, there's now a pre school age child and a baby on the way.

I would probably had some (but not too much) sympathy for the guy until that point. Thing is if the stupid bugger had only deleted all the messages he'd probably have gotten away with having the contacts there as he had a reasonable explanation for that.

[Mike_61]

I can't see an explanation of how the wife ended up with the husband's phone in an unlocked state.

An awful lot of people use something obvious that their wife could guess.

Don’t be that mug and change your passcode to something unguessable - and whilst you are at it take the time to review all the security settings in the phone.

[thundercrackerxx]

Rather than waste extra money on a punting phone I'd recommend not wasting money getting married.
Hard to feel sorry for either party here. He was abusive and cheating, she was stupid enough to stay with a guy who hits her and reproduce with him then acts surprised and angry he cheated.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Reading some of the Mumsnet stuff it seems that a lot of blokes arent that carefull and it sometimes seems they almost want to be found out!

And its deemed ok that an affair is understandable but seeing an escort is shat on from a great height!..

[webpunter]

Reading some of the Mumsnet stuff it seems that a lot of blokes arent that carefull and it sometimes seems they almost want to be found out!

There will be situations where blokes aint that bothered bout the OH & if getting caught happens so be it
Edit:  deffo the case where blokes feel trapped & this is the only way they see that they can get out of a relationship, pushed rather than jumping etc
Usually women only get 'caught' when they want to

And its deemed ok that an affair is understandable but seeing an escort is shat on from a great height!..

As for affairs depends on the burd
There is the 'connection' which some women will hate
& escorts are there to empty the tanks
Tho OHs will be jealous that escorts are usually younger fitter & better at it [it is their job]
Mars & Venus stuff

[macman26]

Reading some of the Mumsnet stuff it seems that a lot of blokes arent that carefull and it sometimes seems they almost want to be found out!

And its deemed ok that an affair is understandable but seeing an escort is shat on from a great height!..

Yes needing to really careful, 2ed punting phone, all data services turned off etc AND Bluetooth, last thing you want to sync to your car head unit in case past numbers/texts etc synced.   

Lock down said phone with a good safe not know to anyone code or easy to guess, all notifications turned off on 'sleep' display. Plus a reason to have this phone (keeping your old phone, just in case your main broken etc, is good one). Then preferably hide it somewhere safe and out of eyes view!!

[Undergrowth]

I use a virtual SIM thing; it's an app called Another Number.  I install it when I'm heading away, and uninstall it when heading back.  No forwarding or anything, and as far as I can see, no trace of it at all when you delete it.

It holds its own contact list as well.  Only thing you have to separately delete is the call log; incoming calls I think are marked as 'another number incoming' or something, and outgoing calls are shown but marked as 'another number call' so easy to spot and delete.  Easier than a second phone I think.

[JontyR]

I use a virtual SIM thing; it's an app called Another Number.  I install it when I'm heading away, and uninstall it when heading back.  No forwarding or anything, and as far as I can see, no trace of it at all when you delete it.

It holds its own contact list as well.  Only thing you have to separately delete is the call log; incoming calls I think are marked as 'another number incoming' or something, and outgoing calls are shown but marked as 'another number call' so easy to spot and delete.  Easier than a second phone I think.

Maybe. I take second phone out of box of junk and leads. Turn it on. Call. Turn it off again. Put back in box.

[Dipper]

I use a virtual SIM thing; it's an app called Another Number.  I install it when I'm heading away, and uninstall it when heading back.  No forwarding or anything, and as far as I can see, no trace of it at all when you delete it.

It holds its own contact list as well.  Only thing you have to separately delete is the call log; incoming calls I think are marked as 'another number incoming' or something, and outgoing calls are shown but marked as 'another number call' so easy to spot and delete.  Easier than a second phone I think.

The way to go I think for those wondering. Why double the risk with an added physical handset?

[Undergrowth]

Each to their own and all that, depends on how tech-savvy your other half might be etc etc.  If I was single, I'd be completely happy with a separate phone, but the virtual SIM app works perfectly for my situation.  I'd recommend it to anyone with a similar setup.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

I've got a collection of phones that go waay back, whole box of 'em:)

[arthur]

I couldn't be arsed to wade through all of it, but managed the first 4 pages,

Her sister's husband had been caught out sexting with somebody, bloke asked her to plug his phone in, either he had no passcode/security or she knew it. decided to take a look and messages from escorts and cam girls on there "hidden" as customers, guy runs a garage, so alfa amy ect. Really wanted it to be Elouise Escort 
She only found a few messages and no replys from the escort. All fairly forgivable so far, no evidence that anything actually happened although intent was pretty clear, not that the man haters over at MN were in a very forgiving mood. Very much being Hung, Drawn and Quartered was too good for him.

However from her updates and we are obviously only hearing one side of the story, I hope he's not one of us. After he was sleeping (on the couch obvs) she went down and took the phone to check for more messages and he realised and went upstairs, grabbed her, bruising her wrists, wrestled the phone out of her hands and threw it across the room. Has been violent in the past, and was once arrested for hitting her in the street. That was before any kids were involved, there's now a pre school age child and a baby on the way.

I would probably had some (but not too much) sympathy for the guy until that point. Thing is if the stupid bugger had only deleted all the messages he'd probably have gotten away with having the contacts there as he had a reasonable explanation for that.

I read the thread a couple of nights ago and (I think) the OP also mentioned that every time he had sent the texts he was out drinking, which would raise the suspicions a bit more.

[Melnw6969]

someone made a good point above regarding how tech savvy your wife is.   i've got a work phone which i used but a recent SP told me my work email address came up when i sent her text messages from it... which is a little worrying so i need to maybe think of another phone.  however, my mrs isn't that tech savvy and wouldn't know where to start looking so i may just use my personal phone and clear the text/call history regularly.   

[daviemac]

someone made a good point above regarding how tech savvy your wife is.   i've got a work phone which i used but a recent SP told me my work email address came up when i sent her text messages from it... which is a little worrying so i need to maybe think of another phone.  however, my mrs isn't that tech savvy and wouldn't know where to start looking so i may just use my personal phone and clear the text/call history regularly.

I take it you don't like your job and are not bothered about losing it. using a work phone for anything other than work is just crazy.   

Your employer get's the bill and will see whatever numbers you have been contacting.

[Melnw6969]

I take it you don't like your job and are not bothered about losing it. using a work phone for anything other than work is just crazy.   

Your employer get's the bill and will see whatever numbers you have been contacting.

indeed - i make many calls so can hide these in the noise,  but certainly need to get a different phone or air sim

[PumpDump]

Guys, how many times does it have to be said, don't use your personal device (or work device) for punting. Have a completely different device with completely different Apple/Google accounts, ideally using a fake name. Using your personal device is asking for trouble. You will be caught if your other half goes snooping.

[stampjones]

someone made a good point above regarding how tech savvy your wife is.   i've got a work phone which i used but a recent SP told me my work email address came up when i sent her text messages from it... which is a little worrying so i need to maybe think of another phone.  however, my mrs isn't that tech savvy and wouldn't know where to start looking so i may just use my personal phone and clear the text/call history regularly.

She doesnt have to be tech savvy - just needs a tech savvy friend

[akauya]

She doesnt have to be tech savvy - just needs a tech savvy friend

Yep, or she can ask Google

[TallnHung]

Just dont have a missus.
Even better dont have a missus who thinks Mumsnet is even mildly interesting.
More bother than they are worth on both counts

[geostorm1]

Everyone saying to use a different device instead of your personal phone. This is not very practical. Sometimes my punts are on the way back from running some errands. I don't have time for charging an old dinosaur phone.

I do everything on my personal phone. Dual sim (e-sim) with the 2nd sim disabled unless I am punting. Phone has a passcode and wife will NEVER know it.
I don't delete anything on it, texts or call logs. Wife NEVER goes on phone.
I am the bill holder for mine and wifes mobile phone. No risk of her seeing a phone bill.

Samsung Secure Folder for dedicated Google account to store contacts, Chrome history, Google Drive, second WhatsApp / Snapchat etc.

If there is any risk to this I would love to hear it.

[big-al93]

Of course there's a risk. There are risks in almost all aspects of punting, sounds like yours are reasonably low, but although you believe your wife would not touch your phone, not deleting messages, call logs ect is an extra risk that I wouldn't take if I was married. The guy this thread is about, his missus never would have gone into his phone had her sisters man not been caught out. What if your wifes best friend's husband had an affair, and suggests that your wife checks your phone? She'd probably say no at first..

Even if she doesn't manage  to get past the passcode, she could open it up looking to put the sim in amother phone to see what she can find, and lo and behold why have you got an extra sim?  If you are lucky there'll be somewhere that you go regularly that has no signal on your contract sim, and your punting sim will be on a network that works in that location. You don't turn it on, but feel sfaer having it i case of emergency.

[big-al93]

BTW, doesn't have to be an old dumb phone, can be a smartphone as long as you don't set it up with any existing logins. Create a completely separate gmail account or Apple id to set it up.

[Dipper]

Of course there's a risk. There are risks in almost all aspects of punting, sounds like yours are reasonably low, but although you believe your wife would not touch your phone, not deleting messages, call logs ect is an extra risk that I wouldn't take if I was married. The guy this thread is about, his missus never would have gone into his phone had her sisters man not been caught out. What if your wifes best friend's husband had an affair, and suggests that your wife checks your phone? She'd probably say no at first..

Even if she doesn't manage  to get past the passcode, she could open it up looking to put the sim in amother phone to see what she can find, and lo and behold why have you got an extra sim?  If you are lucky there'll be somewhere that you go regularly that has no signal on your contract sim, and your punting sim will be on a network that works in that location. You don't turn it on, but feel sfaer having it i case of emergency.

Even if the sim was taken (hopefully there’d not be a physical sim anyway) you’d hope this was also PIN protected. Obviously double security is a must i.e. handset/sim BOTH having good codes.

Also things like screenlock kicking it after as short a period as possible. He really doesn’t want to be nodding off one day and the screen to be open. As has also been said ensure alerts are fully OFF.

The bigger risk may be a glimpse of something over the shoulder in an unguarded moment.

[jimbobted]

BTW, doesn't have to be an old dumb phone, can be a smartphone as long as you don't set it up with any existing logins. Create a completely separate gmail account or Apple id to set it up.

That's what I've done. Old smart phone factory reset and set up with a new Google ID. Screen locks immediately the screen turns off, not notifications shown on lock screen, different unlock code to menotherndevices. If I ever leave it laying around accidentally and she finds it there's nothing incriminating "Oh I thought I had some old photos on it but I can even remember the unlock code. Never mind".

[Dipper]

That's what I've done. Old smart phone factory reset and set up with a new Google ID. Screen locks immediately the screen turns off, not notifications shown on lock screen, different unlock code to menotherndevices. If I ever leave it laying around accidentally and she finds it there's nothing incriminating "Oh I thought I had some old photos on it but I can even remember the unlock code. Never mind".

I suppose this ‘In plain sight’ approach could suit some.

[PumpDump]

Everyone saying to use a different device instead of your personal phone. This is not very practical. Sometimes my punts are on the way back from running some errands. I don't have time for charging an old dinosaur phone.

I do everything on my personal phone. Dual sim (e-sim) with the 2nd sim disabled unless I am punting. Phone has a passcode and wife will NEVER know it.
I don't delete anything on it, texts or call logs. Wife NEVER goes on phone.
I am the bill holder for mine and wifes mobile phone. No risk of her seeing a phone bill.

Samsung Secure Folder for dedicated Google account to store contacts, Chrome history, Google Drive, second WhatsApp / Snapchat etc.

If there is any risk to this I would love to hear it.

If the wife suspects you are fucking hookers and she demands to see your phone you're gonna be in a bad situation. Wouldn't it be much easier to hand her your clean personal phone and she can look all she wants and find nothing? You will have to refuse to let her have a look which is going to make things worse for you.

[Dipper]

If the wife suspects you are fucking hookers and she demands to see your phone you're gonna be in a bad situation. Wouldn't it be much easier to hand her your clean personal phone and she can look all she wants and find nothing? You will have to refuse to let her have a look which is going to make things worse for you.

But even a ‘clean’ one could  tell tales you’d rather it didn’t. Besides hookers, if she’s asking you’re more or less fucked anyway (or the relationship is) in the worst sense of the word.

[Blackpool Rock]

If the wife suspects you are fucking hookers and she demands to see your phone you're gonna be in a bad situation. Wouldn't it be much easier to hand her your clean personal phone and she can look all she wants and find nothing? You will have to refuse to let her have a look which is going to make things worse for you.

Of course you then also have to kick off an argument about trust and point of you are happy to show your phone if she shows hers plus empties the contents of her handbag etc

[Melnw6969]

Showing my age now but I remember back in the day punting without the internet and these new fangled mobile phones.   Who remembers buying contact mags from sex shops and using public phone boxes   

[JontyR]

Not me mate. I was spending my cash on Spangles and trying to avoid stepping in white dog shit.

[akauya]

Showing my age now but I remember back in the day punting without the internet and these new fangled mobile phones.   Who remembers buying contact mags from sex shops and using public phone boxes   

 


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[akauya]

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To this day I remember the Greek Goddess' card I found in one of this boxes. One of the best anal session I ever had. At first though, I thought she really was Greek. I had a nice surprise when I found out why she was calling herself Greek Goddess.

[Melnw6969]

Proper gambling as well in those days - going in blind with no reviews of the SP to rely on and nobody to share experiences with.   

[sparkus]

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You *still* see the odd one here and there with the cards in, even now. I did a double take recently.

[Brimich]

Always been a dilemma for me….having the second phone hidden away would be equally disastrous if found. Was watching tv last night, some crime drama, and the wife commented “ah he’s got a burner phone” which made me think the risk is just about as big.

[Dipper]

Always been a dilemma for me….having the second phone hidden away would be equally disastrous if found. Was watching tv last night, some crime drama, and the wife commented “ah he’s got a burner phone” which made me think the risk is just about as big.

Precisely.

[Melnw6969]

There’s always an element of risk be it with 1) work phones where the employer can see the call history if they wished, 2) burner phones which can be discovered by the mrs and 3) personal phones where text could pop up in company with others.    Just need to assess what level of risk you’re comfortable accepting and mitigating accordingly.   As I said before - much easier to hide  in the contact mag and telephone box days