OWO= Bareback

[OakTree]

I have been seeing prostitutes for 7 years before I met my gf! I was fucking around with my ex! I’ve only just learnt about uk punting from a friend. I want to review girls, as I’m sure many other married/taken men! Does that make me such a bad person?

I dunno, you’d be better off asking your girlfriend.

Just out of interest how did the conversation go with your friend?

“Hey mate I’ve been fucking prostitutes lately got any good tips?

“Yeah it just so happens I fuck them too and I know this great site”

[Philjersey1990]

I dunno, you’d be better off asking your girlfriend.

Just out of interest how did the conversation go with your friend?

“Hey mate I’ve been fucking prostitutes lately got any good tips?

“Yeah it just so happens I fuck them too and I know this great site”

He’s an old timer who I’ve worked with for years and told me everything about AW and forums. That’s how I’ve got into this habit in the first place. As I say I’ve been doing it for quit a long time now and struggling to let go of my old ways.  I just need to be more careful how I go about things now

[Marmalade]

He’s an old timer who I’ve worked with for years and told me everything about AW and forums. That’s how I’ve got into this habit in the first place. As I say I’ve been doing it for quit a long time now and struggling to let go of my old ways.  I just need to be more careful how I go about things now

Right. And you just happened to join... TWO DAYS AGO. 

[vw]

He’s an old timer who I’ve worked with for years and told me everything about AW and forums. That’s how I’ve got into this habit in the first place. As I say I’ve been doing it for quit a long time now and struggling to let go of my old ways.  I just need to be more careful how I go about things now

by old friend do you mean old account ?   

What was your old username ?   

[Philjersey1990]

Mate what are you talking about? It’s clear to see my profile is new, I’ve only joined 2 days ago, so no there’s ‘no old account’ to search.   
 Here like everyone else to look up WG...... what’s the issue here?

[Marmalade]

Well frankly if you've only been here two days you aren't in a position to vouch for someone else, whoever it was you were trying to vouch for.

[vw]

Mate what are you talking about? It’s clear to see my profile is new, I’ve only joined 2 days ago, so no there’s ‘no old account’ to search.   
 Here like everyone else to look up WG...... what’s the issue here?

notice your pretend friend isnt here helping you out.   

[OakTree]

notice your pretend friend isnt here helping you out.   

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[smiths]

This will be controversial. And my scant contribution to this forum will be sited and attacked.

But I have truly learnt a lesson about STIs and uncovered oral. I have seen 2 (well reviewed) ladies in the last 6 months. Prior to seeing them I had a clear GUM meeting. Other than oral sex, I have had had fully covered sex. I have had no other sexual partners.

And yet I have contracted Chlamydia. I did not (naively) realise that oral Chlamydiosis was an issue. One of these ladies has oral Chlamydia.

The only possible way I contracted this was from OWO.

I agree with the majority of this forum in that BB is awful and should be stamped out. But OWO is equally dangerous. With hindsight my avoidance of people offering BB and yet offering OWO is utterly ridiculous.

And the people who campaign against BB and yet state that OWO is required for a decent punt are utter hypocrites.

We should not be asking ladies to perform OWO. They are putting themselves and subsequent punters at risk. The ladies I saw are certainly infecting other people. It is ultimately mucous membrane to mucous membrane. I was naive. Don't be.

If you use a condom during sex and allow OWO to be performed on you the only thing you are protecting yourself and the lady is pregnancy.

I am not going to punt any longer. My dose of Azithromycin has worked but I will not put myself at risk of other more serious STIs.

Fuck off you trolling prick, and don't come back.

[myothernameis]

Fuck off you trolling prick, and don't come back.

He already has, he was banned a few days ago

[claretandblue]

The title of this thread is a load of bollocks....

It is pretty much impossible to get hiv from owo and while there is a small risk of other nasties,it is much lower than the risk from bareback.

[smiths]

He already has, he was banned a few days ago

It says he was banned at 1.56am this morning not a few days ago.

[Moresomes]

This thread's turning into a good read.
There's nowt like a couple of bullshitters signing up, then fucking up, for providing entertainment. 

[Squire Haggard]

Anyone who thinks that OWO= Bareback is a bellend, like Balanitis.

[Plan R]

I'm not usually moved to say anything as heartfelt as this.. but fuck off and die you shitcunt.
 

[Littlefoot]

I did not say I would leave the forum.

No you didn't, but admin did 

[antmasterant]

I used to worry about picking up an STI from OWO when my cock was in the prossies mouth. I realised very quickly it made me go soft so I stopped worrying so I could enjoy filling her gob with man sauce.

I get zero OWO at home so i’m prepared to take a calculated risk in order to enjoy one of life’s pleasures of having your cock sucked by a pro

[TTGR]

Some dickhead tendency from OP aside, OWO carries a definite risk of STI transmission.

I repeat this in case anyone new to punting or undecided like I was for a long time, genuinely thought it didn't.

So take a small risk but it is small, risk is considerably less than BB vaginal or Anal.

The other thing OP... ...a "well reviewed" SP... IMO means little when it comes to STIs risk.
You were unlucky, move on and stop trying to brainwash others.

[munterhunter]

Didn't realise there was a potential risk of sti with owo?
"OWO =BAREBACK"
F'KIN HELL MATE I hope you don't cross the road without the help of a responsible adult!!

[wannabe]

It's not true that only minor STDs can be caught orally, and are easily treated, as stated earlier in this thread.

Antibiotic resistant gonorrhea can be caught orally, and is not easy to treat. Quite soon it may be untreatable. Left untreated gonorrhea can cause serious health problems, some of which can be life threatening, although that's rare.
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Syphilis can be caught from oral sex if there is a sore in the mouth of the person giving it, which may not be noticed of course. Syphilis untreated can be fatal.
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Many of us are prepared to risk oral, as has already been stated, but if we discuss STDs, which are a valid topic, then we should get the facts right.

[Ridiculousiknow]

I hate to burst your bubble but there are now uncurable strains of gonorrhoea which you can get through oral.
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I don't know why you're being so hard on the op. Whilst I accept most things in life carry some risk I, like he would prefer to be aware of the facts and make a decision based on those facts. If you want to gamble, then fine, go ahead, gamble, but we're all different and I for one will carry on enjoying oral with.

[holland]

I hate to burst your bubble but there are now uncurable strains of gonorrhoea which you can get through oral.
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I don't know why you're being so hard on the op. Whilst I accept most things in life carry some risk I, like he would prefer to be aware of the facts and make a decision based on those facts. If you want to gamble, then fine, go ahead, gamble, but we're all different and I for one will carry on enjoying oral with.

People have been hard with the op because he compared owo with bb which is a fucking nonsense.
You can catch stds with owo but you cant catch hiv which is only spread through bb.
It is a massive fucking difference.

[vw]

I hate to burst your bubble but there are now uncurable strains of gonorrhoea which you can get through oral.
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I don't know why you're being so hard on the op. Whilst I accept most things in life carry some risk I, like he would prefer to be aware of the facts and make a decision based on those facts. If you want to gamble, then fine, go ahead, gamble, but we're all different and I for one will carry on enjoying oral with.

how many cases of this "uncurable" one?     Is is still single figures?

You can still catch bird flu and sars doing ow you know.   

[smiths]

I hate to burst your bubble but there are now uncurable strains of gonorrhoea which you can get through oral.
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I don't know why you're being so hard on the op. Whilst I accept most things in life carry some risk I, like he would prefer to be aware of the facts and make a decision based on those facts. If you want to gamble, then fine, go ahead, gamble, but we're all different and I for one will carry on enjoying oral with.

The OP was banned for being a troll, its admins site and he can ban who he likes, I don't see it as being hard on the OP. Adults are responsible for their sexual health so as ever its a case of taking the risks you are prepared to take, if punting is too high risk no one is forcing a punter to do it. Oral with is your choice which is your business, as you say we are all different, OWO for me.

[Ridiculousiknow]

Fair enough. As I say everyone sets their own risk level but in order to do that you need to know the facts.

[wannabe]

People have been hard with the op because he compared owo with bb which is a fucking nonsense.
You can catch stds with owo but you cant catch hiv which is only spread through bb.
It is a massive fucking difference.

I'm afraid this is incorrect as well. A google search will bring up plenty of authoritative sites which all say that HIV can be passed on orally, although the risk is low. This is from the Terence Higgins Trust -

"According to Public Health England, around 1-3% of sexual HIV transmissions in the UK are because of oral sex. Other studies found that the risk is very low but is not zero".

As several of us have said, you take the risks which are acceptable to you. But don't just make up things you would like to be true, find out the facts. There are plenty of newbies who join this site, who haven't read all the previous threads on this topic, and its in all our interests that they all learn the reality, and this site is one good way of finding out stuff like this. So let's keep it accurate.

And by the way, yes I do indulge in owo, in case anyone thinks I'm an STD troll.

[holland]

I'm afraid this is incorrect as well. A google search will bring up plenty of authoritative sites which all say that HIV can be passed on orally, although the risk is low. This is from the Terence Higgins Trust -

"According to Public Health England, around 1-3% of sexual HIV transmissions in the UK are because of oral sex. Other studies found that the risk is very low but is not zero".

As several of us have said, you take the risks which are acceptable to you. But don't just make up things you would like to be true, find out the facts. There are plenty of newbies who join this site, who haven't read all the previous threads on this topic, and its in all our interests that they all learn the reality, and this site is one good way of finding out stuff like this. So let's keep it accurate.

And by the way, yes I do indulge in owo, in case anyone thinks I'm an STD troll.

it is impossible to get hiv from receiving oral and giving oral to woman.
Noone has ever proved it. NO case ever proved it.
The risk is just theoretical that's why it is stated by some.

do your home work properly 'wannabe' something

[yandex]

From External Link/Members Only:

'HIV is found in the body fluids of an infected person. This includes semen, vaginal and anal fluids, blood, and breast milk.

It's a fragile virus and doesn't survive outside the body for long. HIV can't be transmitted through sweat, urine or saliva.'

also

'The chance of getting HIV through oral sex is very low and will be dependent on many things, such as whether you receive or give oral sex and the oral hygiene of the person giving the oral sex.'

and

'It may also be possible to catch HIV through unprotected oral sex, but the risk is much lower.

The risk is higher if:

the person giving oral sex has mouth ulcers, sores or bleeding gums
the person receiving oral sex has recently been infected with HIV and has a lot of the virus in their body, or another sexually transmitted infection'

It's pretty vague and very speculative - it certainly refutes the original bollocks of OWO=BB

[TTGR]

Good points from all.

I believe this ‘incurable’ gonorrhoea is actually a precious rarity, if it starts to spread in the UK, it would absolutely be the end of my punting days for a start, Gonorrhoea can spread from all intimate contact like DFK, RO.

Highest risk of all STDs will be if seeing cheaper whores, wasted crack users etc. Also forced/trafficked foreign girls who are often BB providing anyway.

If you’re so risk averse you should avoid escorting, but then what? Use Tinder, swingers clubs etc. for civvie casual sex hookups?.... they basically will be with people sleeping around a lot, how many will self test at STD clinics as often as independent escorts will?

[holland]

From External Link/Members Only:

'HIV is found in the body fluids of an infected person. This includes semen, vaginal and anal fluids, blood, and breast milk.

It's a fragile virus and doesn't survive outside the body for long. HIV can't be transmitted through sweat, urine or saliva.'

also

'The chance of getting HIV through oral sex is very low and will be dependent on many things, such as whether you receive or give oral sex and the oral hygiene of the person giving the oral sex.'

and

'It may also be possible to catch HIV through unprotected oral sex, but the risk is much lower.

The risk is higher if:

the person giving oral sex has mouth ulcers, sores or bleeding gums
the person receiving oral sex has recently been infected with HIV and has a lot of the virus in their body, or another sexually transmitted infection'

It's pretty vague and very speculative - it certainly refutes the original bollocks of OWO=BB

Thanks yandex for your info and link.
I would say to look further than nhs.
NHS has a very cautious approach on the online website.
If you search info from other organizations and countries you ll find out that the risk of getting hiv from owo or ro is zero.
Also nhs doesn't give Pep if you have received owo from an hiv person or you gave ro to her because there is no risk

[wannabe]

it is impossible to get hiv from receiving oral and giving oral to woman.
Noone has ever proved it. NO case ever proved it.

That statement would be very hard to prove. 

And if you do your homework properly, you'll find that there are plenty of organisations from other countries which accept there is a small risk.

[NigelF]

That statement would be very hard to prove. 

And if you do your homework properly, you'll find that there are plenty of organisations from other countries which accept there is a small risk.

No, if you do your homework properly (i.e. looking at the clinical literature/research) you'll see that he is correct (although technically it isn't impossible - the risk is still there theoretically but it's thousands of times less likely than you were suggesting). There are no recorded cases of HIV transmission from receiving OWO or giving RO. Of course, as all the researchers will say, it can't be ruled out as a theoretical possibility because a HIV positive person who was also doing much higher risk activities (e.g. BB) may still actually have got it from OWO and not their barebacking. Nonetheless, because of the very extensive number of cases that have been looked at - the risk is only theoretical and obviously far far lower than 1%. The 1-3% figure you have found is not for receiving oral sex.

As holland also says, you'll not get PEP on the NHS if that's the only thing you have done (even if the other person has a high viral load although I believe clinical guidelines state they would if their viral load was very high - e.g. due to the very small potential risk if they had cuts or sores etc in their mouth as well as a very high viral load).

[holland]

That statement would be very hard to prove. 

And if you do your homework properly, you'll find that there are plenty of organisations from other countries which accept there is a small risk.

If you don't believe the obvious.  Tomorrow morning go to a gum clinic and ask for a pep because a hiv woman gave you a blowjob...see yourself what they say to you

Saliva does not contain hiv. You will never get hiv from owo. This is basic wannabe boy.

[Marmalade]

I think there’s a rash of healthcare do-gooders join up every so often. They probably cut and paste a couple of reviews from AW to try and look ‘genuine’ and then basically try to tell everyone to stay away from prostitutes. Silly fuckers.

[OakTree]

That statement would be very hard to prove. 

And if you do your homework properly, you'll find that there are plenty of organisations from other countries which accept there is a small risk.

Well there may be but I would bet you are probably more at risk of harm from the journey to and from your payed sex encounter than the actual deed itself.

[Philjersey1990]

I think there’s a rash of healthcare do-gooders join up every so often. They probably cut and paste a couple of reviews from AW to try and look ‘genuine’ and then basically try to tell everyone to stay away from prostitutes. Silly fuckers.

Here’s gobshite marmalade spouting his shit again.
Think because he’s shagged a 1000 prossies and been on UKP for a few years he’s got more
Authority than the newbies. Don’t care if this gets me banned but sick of reading your complete tosh. Nothing but a lonely cunt that spends his hours on here verbally bashing everyone to disguise the small dick syndrome he’s secretly suffering from.     

[OakTree]

Here’s gobshite marmalade spouting his shit again.
Think because he’s shagged a 1000 prossies and been on UKP for a few years he’s got more
Authority than the newbies. Don’t care if this gets me banned but sick of reading your complete tosh. Nothing but a lonely cunt that spends his hours on here verbally bashing everyone to disguise the small dick syndrome he’s secretly suffering from. 

I’m sure marmalade doesn’t need me jumping to his defence, he’s more than capable of doing that himself but this post and previous confirms you are a gobshite who offers nothing but your deluded bullshit to this forum.

[Philjersey1990]

I’m sure marmalade doesn’t need me jumping to his defence, he’s more than capable of doing that himself but this post and previous confirms you are a gobshite who offers nothing but your deluded bullshit to this forum.

What you his fucking dad? Do you want to climb out of marmalades arsehole

[Philjersey1990]

And deluded? In what way? Please explain?

[NigelF]

Here’s gobshite marmalade spouting his shit again.
Think because he’s shagged a 1000 prossies and been on UKP for a few years he’s got more
Authority than the newbies. Don’t care if this gets me banned but sick of reading your complete tosh. Nothing but a lonely cunt that spends his hours on here verbally bashing everyone to disguise the small dick syndrome he’s secretly suffering from. 

You care waaay too much.

And deluded? In what way? Please explain?

What do you think about the risks of OWO compared to bareback? Does OWO = Bareback (as per the title)?

[Philjersey1990]

You care waaay too much.

What do you think about the risks of OWO compared to bareback? Does OWO = Bareback (as per the title)?

I didn’t write this post so why question me? OWO clearly carries far far less risks than BB

[holland]

What you his fucking dad? Do you want to climb out of marmalades arsehole

Your time is counted here  
Boom

[Marmalade]

They’re quite amusing really.    especially someone who joined only a few days ago to say he’s sick of being here already. 

You have three choices, mr newbie twattoff.    use your ignore button, grow a pair, or simply fuck off. Maybe posting ‘teviews’ On AW is more to your liking? Or try Mumsnet — you’ll be free to slag us off until they get bored too. Enjoy your time. 

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A wee puzzle for you to play with. 

[OakTree]

And deluded? In what way? Please explain?

I like the way you picked up on deluded but don’t seem to mind bullshit.

offers nothing but your deluded bullshit to this forum.

[myothernameis]

What you his fucking dad? Do you want to climb out of marmalades arsehole

Bye bye twat, and don't bother coming back

[NigelF]

I didn’t write this post so why question me? OWO clearly carries far far less risks than BB

Fair enough. With the exception of your post about Marmalade, your other posts haven't been too bad as far as I can tell, so I was trying work out if you're a troll (or just to get a funny answer out of you). However, the fact that you seem to care about Marmalade so much (even though he usually talks a lot of sense and is just a bit blunt) still goes against you so you are probably a troll.

... Banned!

[purple_t]

I have seen 2 (well reviewed) ladies in the last 6 months.

And yet no reviews?

OWO has risks but nowhere near as risky as BB, please do not imply they are the same thing. I am speaking as someone who in the past contracted (and has been treated for) an STI as a result of OWO, so I'm not saying this to be blasé or dismissive.

The increased risks with BB are not limited to increased rate of transmission, there is also the issue that any prossie offering BB will have a big problem somewhere - mental issues, drug addict, pimped... the list goes on but bottom line is any sane, sensible prossie would not offer it.

[Marmalade]

That’s two unfulfilled health worker trolls dispatched

Balanitis = name for a less common std (I had to look it up)
Philjersey = is that euphemism for a condom?


(Had to type ‘condom’ three times — iPhone clearly ‘thinks’ it is a rude word)

[brandonpete]

Maybe I'm lucky,Maybe I'm careful...but after 35 yrs of Punting and over 1500 punts doing all kinds of sexual and to some people deviant things...and I've had nothing...sorry I lie....Crabs from a 'hooker' in Frankfurt ......before I got married in 1976 I never punted at all just the usual Boy meets girl at Disco thing and guess what twice bloody Twice I got a dose from different girls...both..Syph and Gonn....oh whoopy do!....may be I'm lucky,but one thing I never ever do..even if having a full GFE is French kiss...nooooo tongues....and an old Coventry 'Lady of the night' who I actually met down the Clap clinic...told me to keep a bottle of diluted Potassium Permanganate to was my mouth out with have having oral sex....may or may not work..but it seems to for me!  and yes i get Gummed every 12 weeks!