How does escorting/working as a prossie mentally affect WG's?

[mattylondon]

While I presume OP was merely curious about the mental state of prostitutes, I totally agree with this sentiment.

Who really gives a shit about whether they are happy little bunnies or on the verge of a mental breakdown. At the end of the day, you are after sex and they are after your money. Who gives a fuck if they sit with their knees curled up and cry in the shower about the fact they are whores. They can get a fucking psychologist with all that money if they need too.

Don't put whores on a fucking pedestal. They are what they are. They don't need your respect and concern. All they want is your money. I doubt they even remember your face after you walk out the door.

I agree. It's not that I don't care about individuals, from any walk of life, but I couldn't give a fuck about their mental state and won't sugar coat it by pretending that I do. I don't worry about the checkout girl in Tesco or the dry cleaners. About how 'they're feeling'. What's important is that I'm polite and they do their job, which includes displaying the right attitude. What I demand of the prostitute is that she displays the right attitude to her job too. Her job is also to suck and fuck well. There's no other requirement. I use her for sex. I'm not interested in her world view on this forum or elsewhere, beyond the punt. All she wants is my cash. She uses me too and will forget about me the instant she's on her knees blowing off the next guy. I'm happy with that. This is the business we're in. There's no room for sentiment. I am a customer. She isn't my property to pester outside my paid time.

Does she worry about the wife or girlfriend of that punter she's sucking off? What she could be feeling, as a woman if she found out about her cheating partner.  Does she fuck! It isn't her function or any of her business. She is there to be used for sex. So yes, let's stop putting prostitutes on fucking pedestals.

[Tailpipe]

Many WGs that I have seen are clearly not able to cope with the pressure
Long term.

I think when those WGs  stop working and have a relationship that's when the true scares
Will be there to be seen.

The consent blocking of emotion during un connected sex would not be easy
How can this be switched on and off at will.

Woman I am told are emotionally , therefore it would seem unnatural. However they are
All wired differently so who knows for sure what's going on .

There are WGs that just like having sex , clearly they are more likely to cope .

[MidlandsEscortxo]

No. That is isn't it.

As with any high income job, once you become accustomed to a certain standard of living, the natural desire is to maintain it. However, as with other low skilled workers, your average prostitute wouldn't be able to compete in the market place and maintain their current standard of living. If you could, you wouldn't have decided to suck cock for a living. And yes, I do not underestimate that it is a decision that a great many women take lightly. I strongly suspect that it's primarily a decision based on need, rather than a totally free choice. That's certainly my perception from talking with a great many prossies, post punt.

Less you forget, the same 'idiot' who cannot follow your simple directions, is the customer, whether you like it or not. To put it bluntly, no idiots, no £600 spending spree in Selfridges for you and you'd probably be on minimum wage, if you're lucky. 

Nobody said that prostitution was easy, but nobody forces you to do it and you always retain the right to turn away an undesirable punter. Compared to a nurse, who undergoes years of training, is skilled and also puts up with abuse, both verbal and physical, in addition to cleaning up patient's piss and shit, on occasion at £18k a year, you have it easy, so I have little sympathy for you.

At any point did I state I wanted sympathy? I think you'll find the input was that yea it's mentally draining but I think the good out weighs that ... oh funnily enough I was training to be a nurse before this, but id rather have half the hours and 4 times the money

[squeezebox]

Overall must have some affect.

The minority would have strong mind-sets, with the right support. ie: Partner/family members. Also have an exit strategy. Target earnings, start family,retire..etc.

The majority don't have a plan. Seem to dip in, dip out and struggle to deal with the hard-core side of the work. This can manifest itself in other bad habits giving them a double whammy later on in life.

[finn5555]

At any point did I state I wanted sympathy? I think you'll find the input was that yea it's mentally draining but I think the good out weighs that ... oh funnily enough I was training to be a nurse before this, but id rather have half the hours and 4 times the money

Short sighted in my opinion and sums up pro$$ie mentality    you can be a nurse until you retire! with the possibility of promotion  you can only sell your arse for a limited time before your past your sell by date 

[Bellabella]

Short sighted in my opinion and sums up pro$$ie mentality    you can be a nurse until you retire! with the possibility of promotion  you can only sell your arse for a limited time before your past your sell by date 

... And that's why there's a thread on here about people looking for mature escorts. Every man is looking for something different from his experience. And once we do all get past out sell by date I'm sure we'll all have enough money saved for a happy life not busting our asses working full time

[MidlandsEscortxo]

... And that's why there's a thread on here about people looking for mature escorts. Every man is looking for something different from his experience. And once we do all get past out sell by date I'm sure we'll all have enough money saved for a happy life not busting our asses working full time

My point exactly, why work my arse off until retirement age

[Hellraiser]

... And that's why there's a thread on here about people looking for mature escorts. Every man is looking for something different from his experience. And once we do all get past out sell by date I'm sure we'll all have enough money saved for a happy life not busting our asses working full time

My point exactly, why work my arse off until retirement age

Judging from your posts on here, neither of you prostitutes seem particularly intelligent. The smart money is on both of you being skint when you're in your 60's and struggling to live off your state pension.

[Sailormack]

In all honesty my friends don't even go out to pull either, I don't think many people do these days. It's more about having a good night with mates. Just because we don't all go out looking to take a fuck home doesn't mean we don't have a good night.

The majority of women get dolled up and go to clubs for attention.

Maybe you're the exception

[Sailormack]

I think your guessing is close to spot on.

I got to know a WG quite well. I've never seen her as a client and in fact she doesn't know I've ever done it. I think the fact that I have been able to conceal that without difficulty is very telling. I got to know her by chance in another arena, but of course when she revealed to me what she does I was more than interested. Her entire thinking on relationships is very warped indeed. I found I can't have any sort of a conversation with her about the subject because she always reverts to - I know this through my job, you don't know anything. We can talk about any other subject and she is intelligent enough to be very stimulating indeed on most things. She runs rings around me on things like math - and that's something I use every day for my work - she is more or less genius level academically and she occasionally writes articles on her specialist other subject with stunning content. But human interaction is another thing altogether, and she's also gone down the road of buying expensive clothes - literally hundreds of pairs of shoes, and expensive dresses she never wears. It's rather sad to be honest. She over rates herself as a person sadly, and I think anyone who judges their attractiveness to the opposite sex by their interaction with men they are about to fuck are bound to. She's had thousands of clients and of course they all think she's wonderful in every respect, and she now believes it herself. The arrogance that results is incredible and rather sad to see in someone who is otherwise a very good person with so much unrealised potential. This is a rather extreme example, but I suppose they are all like that to some extent.

Yes, and this is typical of good looking women in general. they get a lot of attention from men.

You say this girl is intelligent and I don't doubt that.

But she has a blind spot because she doesn't realise that her vagina value is a devaluing currency and by the time she is a certain age it won't have enough worth to buy a pair of scabby wellies from a car boot sale. 

She will then Join the ranks of the "sisterhood" and you know how that ends 

[MidlandsEscortxo]

Judging from your posts on here, neither of you prostitutes seem particularly intelligent. The smart money is on both of you being skint when you're in your 60's and struggling to live off your state pension.

Isn't it funny how you seem to think you know how my personal finances are, only time will tell what happens.. maybe we'll both be spending each week waiting for a state pension but we'll never know eyy

[Puntypants]

There is a point of view that, for a guy, there is no such thing as a free fuck whether it's club drinks or whatever. What's more the better fucks cost more. Dinner with the wife and a good bottle of wine, or a simple WG transaction, both cost money. A WG transaction is commitment-free, whereas a handful of commitment fucks can lead to on-going cost and all sorts of nasty side-effects.

A WG provides a no-commitment service without nasty side-effects, but the better that service the more it must cost them emotionally. 

[Hellraiser]

Isn't it funny how you seem to think you know how my personal finances are, only time will tell what happens.. maybe we'll both be spending each week waiting for a state pension but we'll never know eyy

Well, let me give you some free financial advise. Doing what you said here:

But then I realise that unlike most people my age I don't have to survive on pot noodles, can go and blow £600 a week in selfridges and can go on holiday whenever I feel like it ...

will ensure that you end up skint in your 60's and have nothing to show for your years of work. Spending £600 a week in Selfridges for... what exactly? Overpriced so-called 'designer' jeans and dresses that are made in the same sweatshop factories in Bangladesh used by Primark?

[vorian]

Yes, and this is typical of good looking women in general. they get a lot of attention from men.

You say this girl is intelligent and I don't doubt that.

But she has a blind spot because she doesn't realise that her vagina value is a devaluing currency and by the time she is a certain age it won't have enough worth to buy a pair of scabby wellies from a car boot sale. 

She will then Join the ranks of the "sisterhood" and you know how that ends 

I agree regarding limited shelf life for wgs on the whole,  if they focus on youth and beauty as the main selling point then that will indeed fade and demand for their services decrease over time. Some prossies will in very rare cases know this and put a lot of hours in, offering a quality service,  save money and invest in their youth so they can retire at an age before demand drops off too much. Most of course will not. Also some and I know a couple who have or are doing this reinvent themselves and the services they offer. For example I know a wg who is approaching thirty now and is moving away from gfe to a more professional dom aspect.  The success of this persona is less based on looks but more on experience and a skill set which for the last couple of years she has been training towards. Yes you can do training in the bdsm fetish, also to equip herself with a fully functional dungeon set up is a long term investment as well. At some point she will phase out the gfe profile and focus solely on the professional dom role. By doing this she will be able to extend her working shelf life by perhaps 15/20 years. Again this for planning is rare amoungst wgs.

[Sailormack]

I agree regarding limited shelf life for wgs on the whole,  if they focus on youth and beauty as the main selling point then that will indeed fade and demand for their services decrease over time. Some prossies will in very rare cases know this and put a lot of hours in, offering a quality service,  save money and invest in their youth so they can retire at an age before demand drops off too much. Most of course will not. Also some and I know a couple who have or are doing this reinvent themselves and the services they offer. For example I know a wg who is approaching thirty now and is moving away from gfe to a more professional dom aspect.  The success of this persona is less based on looks but more on experience and a skill set which for the last couple of years she has been training towards. Yes you can do training in the bdsm fetish, also to equip herself with a fully functional dungeon set up is a long term investment as well. At some point she will phase out the gfe profile and focus solely on the professional dom role. By doing this she will be able to extend her working shelf life by perhaps 15/20 years. Again this for planning is rare amoungst wgs.

Yes, this one sounds switched on.

The majority though, as their looks disappear and the cellulite builds up, just swallow the bitterness pill and take up a mod position on pro$$ienet.

[MidlandsEscortxo]

Well, let me give you some free financial advise. Doing what you said here:

will ensure that you end up skint in your 60's and have nothing to show for your years of work. Spending £600 a week in Selfridges for... what exactly? Overpriced so-called 'designer' jeans and dresses that are made in the same sweatshop factories in Bangladesh used by Primark?

Ah see once again not reading it properly, I never said this is what I do every week but if I wanted to I have the finances there to do so... if I wanted financial advice I would go to someone who knows what they're talking about, not someone who seems to have a massive chip on their shoulder

[vorian]

Yes, this one sounds switched on.

The majority though, as their looks disappear and the cellulite builds up, just swallow the bitterness pill and take up a mod position on pro$$ienet.

Yep your spot on SM and for those wgs a place on PN or SAAFE does indeed await

[finn5555]

... And that's why there's a thread on here about people looking for mature escorts. Every man is looking for something different from his experience. And once we do all get past out sell by date I'm sure we'll all have enough money saved for a happy life not busting our asses working full time

Trust me the demand for washed up Pro$$ies is very limited  try befriending the hags on pro$$ienet whist your young and you will soon find out how bitter and twisted they are due to their lack of income 

[Sailormack]

And we aren't intelligent getting paid £100 an hour instead of £6 an hour. I have a business now and employ people thanks to all you lovely gents giving away your future pensions.

Welcome to the new world order.

Men will pay a tiny percentage of their wealth to fuck young, hot chicks in their prime years while avoiding marrying a depreciating asset.

 As the pro$$ie ages her value drops like a stone and she finds herself surfing Ebay looking for  "Old Muff Buff", the ageing pro$$ie's phone polish of choice, just $2.99 for a 5L tin inc P&P. 

Many will spend their old lonely days posting on PN and SAAFE, reminiscing about the good old days when men actually fucked then rather than laughed at their old worn asses. They will chomp on junk food, while watching Jeremy Kyle and bitch at any young attractive girl who comes onto their forum mistakenly thinking they were friendly and supportive.

But you of course are a different breed, a special snowflake, one of God's chosen ones, blessed with exquisite genetics and phenomenal business acumen.

The Golden Child 

[Sailormack]

My point exactly, why work my arse off until retirement age

"Retirement age" is 35 max for a prostitute.

And that is for those who look after themselves and plan well financially, which is debatable in your case 

[Bellabella]

I never said I was a golden child,  simply saying I don't plan on being a pensioner with no money in 40 odd years time. Some of us do this to save money for a better future. There's no talking sense into you at all you are a man at the end of the day, you just see us as a piece of meat to fuck with no life outside of escorting.

[finn5555]

I never said I was a golden child,  simply saying I don't plan on being a pensioner with no money in 40 odd years time. Some of us do this to save money for a better future. There's no talking sense into you at all you are a man at the end of the day, you just see us as a piece of meat to fuck with no life outside of escorting.

Hit a nerve Bella  that attitude will have you on benefit street in no time 

[smiths]

I never said I was a golden child,  simply saying I don't plan on being a pensioner with no money in 40 odd years time. Some of us do this to save money for a better future. There's no talking sense into you at all you are a man at the end of the day, you just see us as a piece of meat to fuck with no life outside of escorting.

And men are all individuals who view things differently from each other. I dont view WGs as pieces of meat at all personally. All i expect is for a WG to stick to the deal she agreed on the phone when i meet her. I ALWAYS stick to my end of the deal, have the agreed cash, ensure i am clean and on time. If they dont stick to the deal they are low life scum in my view and deserve to be castigated on here, just as good WGs are rightly praised on here.

[Bellabella]

And men are all individuals who view things differently from each other. I dont view WGs as pieces of meat at all personally. All i expect is for a WG to stick to the deal she agreed on the phone when i meet her. I ALWAYS stick to my end of the deal, have the agreed cash, ensure i am clean and on time. If they dont stick to the deal they are low life scum in my view and deserve to be castigated on here, just as good WGs are rightly praised on here.

I didn't mean all men, should have worded it better! That's why I work for an agency, they say my do's and dont's and stick to them within reason

[finn5555]

Bella why work for an agency and give them a large % of your hard earned cash 

[vorian]

Bella why work for an agency and give them a large % of your hard earned cash 

Indie all the way, for the benefit of punters and prossies.

[Bellabella]

I don't have the time to take phonecalls and texts for bookings, it's more discreet for me working agency. I know it's better being indie but it isn't the right option for me at all

[Ali Katt]

Isn't it funny how you seem to think you know how my personal finances are, only time will tell what happens.. maybe we'll both be spending each week waiting for a state pension but we'll never know eyy

Make sure you pay your fucking taxes then, robbing a pension from people that have chipped in for years.

[finn5555]

I don't have the time to take phonecalls and texts for bookings, it's more discreet for me working agency. I know it's better being indie but it isn't the right option for me at all

Another pro$$ie trait laziness 

[James999]

There's no talking sense into you at all you are a man at the end of the day,

Typical Jaded pro$$ie, hating men because you have to rely on them 

[Bellabella]

It's far from laziness, would you sit at work or Infront of family and book clients in and things? I can understand how some girls can do it but I work full time out of being a wg and have a family too that I like to go and visit so it isn't practical for me.

[Ali Katt]

Typical Jaded pro$$ie, hating men because you have to re-lie to them 

I've made a correction.

[finn5555]

It's far from laziness, would you sit at work or Infront of family and book clients in and things? I can understand how some girls can do it but I work full time out of being a wg and have a family too that I like to go and visit so it isn't practical for me.

I work in front of my family but I'm not ashamed of my profession 

[overhead]

I don't have the time to take phonecalls and texts for bookings, it's more discreet for me working agency. I know it's better being indie but it isn't the right option for me at all

I can understand that, and I don't quite see why they are having a dig at you in particular.

I would guess you are still finding your feet in this business. One thing you have to do is develop a thick skin I'm afraid.

[finn5555]

I can understand that, and I don't quite see why they are having a dig at you in particular.

I would guess you are still finding your feet in this business. One thing you have to do is develop a thick skin I'm afraid.

Personally speaking I'm not digging at anyone in particular I am expressing my views 

[MidlandsEscortxo]

I work in front of my family but I'm not ashamed of my profession 

Would you be ashamed talking about your hobby and how you fuck all these tax avaiding scum prossies who you seem to dislike so much but still fork out money for?

[finn5555]

Would you be ashamed talking about your hobby and how you fuck all these tax avaiding scum prossies who you seem to dislike so much but still fork out money for?

Your opinion of yourself is pitiful ... I have not called anyone scum and I like pro$$ies providing they give a good service and stick to the agreement made 

[Bellabella]

So you'd be happy ringing to book one of the girls Infront of your family? We're both in the same boat at times we don't ask for 100% respect because what we do isn't perfect. Aslong as everyone is enjoying themselves then why be so negative about us and try and put us down?

[overhead]

Typical Jaded pro$$ie, hating men because you have to rely on them 

Oh FFS leave her alone.

It's no different from you hating them because you rely on them. I'm the same, I resent it, but I don't pick on them and hate them, it's not their fault as individuals. I think she's too new to have had time to become jaded anyway.

[MidlandsEscortxo]

Your opinion of yourself is pitiful ... I have not called anyone scum and I like pro$$ies providing they give a good service and stick to the agreement made 

I'm voicing the opinion of what it seems you have of working girls yet still spend your time seeing them, my opinion of myself? - I have very high self esteem, I know my self worth and am happy and content with myself ... Maybe looking closer to home should do it for you. But let's stop with the insults now, as they say the minute you personally insult a person you start losing the argument

[finn5555]

I'm voicing the opinion of what it seems you have of working girls yet still spend your time seeing them, my opinion of myself? - I have very high self esteem, I know my self worth and am happy and content with myself ... Maybe looking closer to home should do it for you. But let's stop with the insults now, as they say the minute you personally insult a person you start losing the argument

Well your entitled to your opinion no matter how far off the mark it may be 
You provide a service what you get paid handsomely for so just deliver on that service and you won't go far wrong 

[Ali Katt]

I'm voicing the opinion of what it seems you have of working girls yet still spend your time seeing them, my opinion of myself? - I have very high self esteem, I know my self worth and am happy and content with myself ... Maybe looking closer to home should do it for you. But let's stop with the insults now, as they say the minute you personally insult a person you start losing the argument

Many prossies seem to say you're just pissed because you have to pay for it, discarding the fact most punters can hold down relationships and are often married. I think the second you use a cliché you lose an argument Christopher Hitchens regularly insulted people and was so erudite he couldn't lose an argument.

[SirPhilipXX]

I never said I was a golden child,  simply saying I don't plan on being a pensioner with no money in 40 odd years time. Some of us do this to save money for a better future. There's no talking sense into you at all you are a man at the end of the day, you just see us as a piece of meat to fuck with no life outside of escorting.

Bella it's bad enough reading the vile stuff some punters post about WGs in general on this site, without having to read crude and insulting generalisations about men from a WG as well. That is both untrue and unfair.

Regrettably there are indeed some lowlifes and skanks lurking around the world of prostitution, but I firmly believe that they are the minority, and most punters and WGs alike are decent, honest people. I for one certainly do not regard a WG as 'just a piece of meat'.

[MidlandsEscortxo]

Well your entitled to your opinion no matter how far off the mark it may be 
You provide a service what you get paid handsomely for so just deliver on that service and you won't go far wrong 

Something we agree on 

[James999]

Looks like your actions as a white knight have been her downfall, bet she loves you 

Oh FFS leave her alone.

BANNED

Hidden Image/Members Only

[overhead]

Personally speaking I'm not digging at anyone in particular I am expressing my views 

Well my opinion is that you and a couple of others have deliberately set about baiting these two girls in the hope of getting them banned, and I think that's out of order.

There's nothing wrong with reasoned argument and if they can't cope with that then that's one thing, but to do that with a relative newbie is acting like a coward.

[overhead]

Looks like your actions as a white knight have been her downfall, bet she loves you 

I don't think that was anything to do with me.

And you're a proper cunt for saying that.

[Dani]

It is going to affect prossies in different ways.  For instance a younger one who has never had a real relationship is going to get a skewed idea of men and will see them all as untrustworthy and cheats as the majority of punters are married.  Some wont cope with the self loathing they feel selling themselves to men old enough to be their grandfather or who they find sexually replusive.
Some may not be able to cope with lying to family and friends and end up with deep feelings of guilt
Others however will already know about relationships, will be happy to give a good service to all types of men and wont need to lie to family or friends so will be able to compartmentalise their lives as work and home.  They will also be the ones who start to care about their regulars in a friendship way as they don't need to turn their emotions on and off.

I think it comes down to the individuals life experiences before doing this job as well as how balanced they were brought up and how they view themselves and their own levels of self esteem

[mattylondon]

At any point did I state I wanted sympathy? I think you'll find the input was that yea it's mentally draining but I think the good out weighs that ... oh funnily enough I was training to be a nurse before this, but id rather have half the hours and 4 times the money

Sure. And at least four times less the respect. Just as well because you're in the wrong place for any sympathy. I'm happy for you nevertheless. 

Tbh, I don't believe a word you say on the nursing front. Basically if true, you couldn't hack it, hence the 'in training bit'. I know some nurses and they don't just suddenly wake up and decide to become whores for payment. It's usually due to need. 

[circusbizarre]

its a question and can of worms you dont want to open,