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Offline Bloody_Foreigner

Anyone watching this? 

Anyone want to admit banging one of these sorry girls? 😂

Extra points if any have reviews on here!

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Haven't watched it. What do you mean by describing them as "sorry"  :unknown: Must be something hilarious, judging by your choice of meme.

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Anyone watching this? 

Anyone want to admit banging one of these sorry girls? 😂

Extra points if any have reviews on here!
Into finding vulnerable escorts who do it out of desperation instead of a career choice are you.    :unknown:

Offline Bloody_Foreigner

Obviously - or maybe not - I was joking.

Offline StingRay

I watched and found it not especially good, disappointing in fact  :hi:

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Obviously - or maybe not - I was joking.

I don't get it, could you explain please.  Whilst I've not seen the program, IMDB described it as "Exploring the hidden world of women who sell sex simply to make ends meet, a phenomenon known as survival sex, including 24-year-old Mia - who works as an escort to pay off £3,000 in rent arrears. ......."

Young vulnerable, desperate, in debt.

Perhaps I've lost my sense of humour, but am really struggling to see the funny side of that.
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I don't get it, could you explain please.  Whilst I've not seen the program, IMDB described it as "Exploring the hidden world of women who sell sex simply to make ends meet, a phenomenon known as survival sex, including 24-year-old Mia - who works as an escort to pay off £3,000 in rent arrears. ......."

Young vulnerable, desperate, in debt.

Perhaps I've lost my sense of humour, but am really struggling to see the funny side of that.

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Obviously - or maybe not - I was joking.

Backtracking like a gooden 🥴🥴

Offline RedKettle

I don't get it, could you explain please.  Whilst I've not seen the program, IMDB described it as "Exploring the hidden world of women who sell sex simply to make ends meet, a phenomenon known as survival sex, including 24-year-old Mia - who works as an escort to pay off £3,000 in rent arrears. ......."

Young vulnerable, desperate, in debt.

Perhaps I've lost my sense of humour, but am really struggling to see the funny side of that.

It is a problem with our hobby that there is a nasty underside to it, including young women like Mia and also unfortunates who are trafficked and otherwise forced into having sex for money. I have always tried to be alert to it and typically I think the profile of my usuals is not that of Mia etc. But in reality who knows?

I have my own rules to minimise the risk and really hope that I am not being exploitative,

Offline lillythesavage

It is a problem with our hobby that there is a nasty underside to it, including young women like Mia and also unfortunates who are trafficked and otherwise forced into having sex for money. I have always tried to be alert to it and typically I think the profile of my usuals is not that of Mia etc. But in reality who knows?

I have my own rules to minimise the risk and really hope that I am not being exploitative,

That is all we can do, be as happy as possible with the situation and hope we are right, some though seem to see Lees and sergies as par for the course :unknown:

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I couldn't see it on my 5 wouldn't let me watch it

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And if you have any concerns regarding trafficking report through the correct channels. I’m sure I recall Davie Max posting links in the past.

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They're some insightful stories into the world of sex work from this channel: External Link/Members Only

Offline bola

"Exploring the hidden world of women who sell sex simply to make ends meet, a phenomenon known as survival sex, including 24-year-old Mia - who works as an escort to pay off £3,000 in rent arrears. ......."[/i]
Aren't most SW doing it for the money?
Unless this one has been trafficked, or is on drugs, it's all business as usual.

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Aren't most SW doing it for the money?
Unless this one has been trafficked, or is on drugs, it's all business as usual.
You don't seen to get it, there's a vast difference between a woman being in debt and seeing the only way out of it as selling her body, even though the thought of it repulses her and a woman making the free choice to go into sex work because she wants to have the lifestyle that goes with it.

To put it another way a woman who goes into sex work out of desperation is one step up from those who are forced into it by pimps and not someone I would want to see.

I want to see escorts who have gone into it as a career choice, but If you are happy to see those who are forced into it then that says a lot about you.

Offline bola

I think it's pretty naive to think a woman makes the "free choice" of selling her body. Most, if they truly had a choice, would sell something else if they could make as much money.
Anyway, you go to a parlour, pick a girl and pay for sex. How are you to know whether she's into it out of desperation or to fund her lifestyle?

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I think it's pretty naive to think a woman makes the "free choice" of selling her body. Most, if they truly had a choice, would sell something else if they could make as much money.
Anyway, you go to a parlour, pick a girl and pay for sex. How are you to know whether she's into it out of desperation or to fund her lifestyle?
I think you are the one who is being naive, go onto EH and see how many escorts are doing it because they want to and there's a lot of them both members and reviewed on here.

I don't use parlours, there aren't any in my neck of the woods and even if there were I still wouldn't use them.

You gave the impression that as for as you are concerned it makes no difference if an escort is forced into it by whatever means you would be happy to use them and that is where you and I differ, like I said I want to see escorts who have made a career choice not who are forced.


Offline bola

The parlour was a theoretical example which you didn't want to address.

Being forced into it for me is having someone forcing them; the woman herself choosing this work to pay off her debt is in no way forced. There are many other jobs she could do instead.

I do get the distinction you're trying to make, and the escort vs parlour illustrates that. My point is that with the parlour example, you can't tell what's happening behind the scene. And this is also the case with some escorts who may genuinely be forced by someone.

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I think it's pretty naive to think a woman makes the "free choice" of selling her body. Most, if they truly had a choice, would sell something else if they could make as much money.
Anyway, you go to a parlour, pick a girl and pay for sex. How are you to know whether she's into it out of desperation or to fund her lifestyle?

I have no words  :mad: :dash:

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I think it's pretty naive to think a woman makes the "free choice" of selling her body. Most, if they truly had a choice, would sell something else if they could make as much money.
Anyway, you go to a parlour, pick a girl and pay for sex. How are you to know whether she's into it out of desperation or to fund her lifestyle?

To the point I was making in the post you partially quoted. 
Why would any punter find it funny that an SP was providing the service because she's young, vulnerable, desperate, in debt?  The OP suggested he was joking, I didn't see the humour in it, perhaps you do?

One of the benefits of this place is that it gives us SSs a more informed choice and helps us to avoid SPs that fall into the above categories.

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I have no words  :mad: :dash:

I wouldn't worry, it's becoming evident that he's "hard of thinking".

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I think it's pretty naive to think a woman makes the "free choice" of selling her body. Most, if they truly had a choice, would sell something else if they could make as much money.
Anyway, you go to a parlour, pick a girl and pay for sex. How are you to know whether she's into it out of desperation or to fund her lifestyle?

May I respectfully say BOLLOCKS  :hi:

Offline bola

May I respectfully say BOLLOCKS  :hi:
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better when punting.

Offline MissWolf

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Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better when punting.

No dear you punt

I work of my own free will  :thumbsup:

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Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better when punting.
You really are a fucking idiot. I could list dozens of escorts who do it as a free carer choice and in the main love every minute of it.

There's been 2 escort on here in quite a short period who have both said you are talking crap. But if you want to think you know better than them the YOU keep telling yourself that if it makes YOU feel better.

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You really are a fucking idiot. I could list dozens of escorts who do it as a free carer choice and in the main love every minute of it.

There's been 2 escort on here in quite a short period who have both said you are talking crap. But if you want to think you know better than them the YOU keep telling yourself that if it makes YOU feel better.

No helping some people  :rolleyes:

7 reviews of which...
3 negative
4 positive,  however of those 4 almost all would have generated a neutral from most other punters, massage and parlor bookings where he wouldn't return, ok body ugly face, made him wait after taking his money so she could take another punter, stinking breath, poor massage, wet wiped to death :unknown:


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Offline GeorgeStevens

Clearly money is the primary factor in people becoming SPs where there is no direct coercion. What research there is on this subject is clear on that. That can be tied in with other motivations of course and a small minority may be driven by other imperatives completely separate to money.  I would like to think I can distinguish between those SPs who are driven by financial hardship and have little or no other choice and those for whom their work is an active lifestyle choice and that I make my choices accordingly but I fear the lines between these motivations are often blurred and they are not always that obvious.

Offline bola

You really are a fucking idiot. I could list dozens of escorts who do it as a free carer choice and in the main love every minute of it.

There's been 2 escort on here in quite a short period who have both said you are talking crap. But if you want to think you know better than them the YOU keep telling yourself that if it makes YOU feel better.
I didn't notice they were SPs. By virtue of the fact that they're here, it's more likely an informed choice for them.
You may have your long list but it doesn't mean there are none who desperately need the money.

Offline bola

No dear you punt

I work of my own free will  :thumbsup:
Ha ha, I missed the fact you were an SP.
If you won a few millions tomorrow, i bet you wouldn't do it. Nor would I do my work too.
So we're both it in for the money.

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Ha ha, I missed the fact you were an SP.
If you won a few millions tomorrow, i bet you wouldn't do it. Nor would I do my work too.
So we're both it in for the money.

Often thought about this a few million isn't a lot and depends what you do with it, I am not so sure I would stop just as other people might not give up their job. Money is the excitement, is the job, are some of the driving factors.

Do millionaires work?  :unknown:

In case you aren't aware I am an SP too.
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Ha ha, I missed the fact you were an SP.
If you won a few millions tomorrow, i bet you wouldn't do it. Nor would I do my work too.
So we're both it in for the money.

That is a different scenario as I'd also retire from my full time paid job even though I love what I do.

I do this by choice to top up my income to a level that allows me luxuries,  however I can live without it!

There is no argument in regard to some service providers having to do this but you really need to do your research better and not believe everything that you see on telly or that is written in portrayal of this industry.
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I didn't notice they were SPs. By virtue of the fact that they're here, it's more likely an informed choice for them.
You may have your long list but it doesn't mean there are none who desperately need the money.
You said there weren't any who do it as a career choice, however I'm going to leave it there, as Mark Twain said "never argue with an idiot. they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".

Offline Charlie Chalk

Ha ha, I missed the fact you were an SP.
If you won a few millions tomorrow, i bet you wouldn't do it. Nor would I do my work too.
So we're both it in for the money.
You’re either just not getting it, or are deliberately being obtuse. I’m not sure which. But I’ll try anyway:

1) Yes, all escorts are in it for the money. If they weren’t, then they’d be providing services for free. Being “in it for the money” does not mean they are being forced or coerced. None of us would work for free, it doesn’t mean we have no say in what we do.

2) A number (hopefully but probably not, most) make a choice to be an escort. Just as the rest of us in employment make a choice to do the jobs we do. We are “forced” to work to fund the lifestyles we want, but we are free to choose what we are employed as. Escorts are no different. They look at the amount they want to earn, look at their own skills, experience, etc and make a choice as to what they can do to earn what they need. That is their own free choice - they found choose alternative employment if they shush, with the corresponding drop in income. These are the escorts I do everything I can to book.

3) There are other escorts who, alas, do not have that freedom of choice either through severe economic hardship, a lack of alternative employment opportunities due to lack of education &/or experience, lack of available vacancies in their area of expertise/locale or who are being forced by another person. These are the escorts who we would all like to avoid, as they are not doing this job through their own free will. They are doing it as a result of having no viable alternative options available to them. Or, worst case scenario, do so through fear of physical violence against them or their families or are trafficked.

Unfortunately, the media portray all SW’s as being in Cat. 3 whereas the truth is there are plenty in Cat. 2. As has been pointed out to you on here, there are plenty of escorts happy and satisfied with their career choice.

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You make it sound like it's all rosy in the sex industry and everyone does it as an informed career choice.

I'm going to leave it there, as Mark Twain said "never argue with an idiot. they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".
For once, we agree.

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You make it sound like it's all rosy in the sex industry and everyone does it as an informed career choice.
For once, we agree.
Be very careful, I already have you down as an antagonistic troll.

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You’re either just not getting it, or are deliberately being obtuse. I’m not sure which. But I’ll try anyway:

1) Yes, all escorts are in it for the money. If they weren’t, then they’d be providing services for free. Being “in it for the money” does not mean they are being forced or coerced. None of us would work for free, it doesn’t mean we have no say in what we do.

2) A number (hopefully but probably not, most) make a choice to be an escort. Just as the rest of us in employment make a choice to do the jobs we do. We are “forced” to work to fund the lifestyles we want, but we are free to choose what we are employed as. Escorts are no different. They look at the amount they want to earn, look at their own skills, experience, etc and make a choice as to what they can do to earn what they need. That is their own free choice - they found choose alternative employment if they shush, with the corresponding drop in income. These are the escorts I do everything I can to book.

3) There are other escorts who, alas, do not have that freedom of choice either through severe economic hardship, a lack of alternative employment opportunities due to lack of education &/or experience, lack of available vacancies in their area of expertise/locale or who are being forced by another person. These are the escorts who we would all like to avoid, as they are not doing this job through their own free will. They are doing it as a result of having no viable alternative options available to them. Or, worst case scenario, do so through fear of physical violence against them or their families or are trafficked.

Unfortunately, the media portray all SW’s as being in Cat. 3 whereas the truth is there are plenty in Cat. 2. As has been pointed out to you on here, there are plenty of escorts happy and satisfied with their career choice.

A well written and sensible post CC

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I think it's pretty naive to think a woman makes the "free choice" of selling her body. Most, if they truly had a choice, would sell something else if they could make as much money.
Anyway, you go to a parlour, pick a girl and pay for sex. How are you to know whether she's into it out of desperation or to fund her lifestyle?

You are only partly right vast majority of prossies work as they choose to do so, that is they are not forced or trafficked despite what the media want to portray so in that part your wrong.

The part your somewhat right about is if they could earn £150 an hour without having to suck and fuck every Tom Dick and Abdul then of course they would  :rolleyes:

Then again there are some, a small minority maybe, who are purely in it for the cock  :hi:

Just look at how many turn to prostitution coming from a swinging background, why give it away for free when they can buy some luxuries  :hi:
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Offline Charlie Chalk

You make it sound like it's all rosy in the sex industry and everyone does it as an informed career choice.
This was absolutely NOT what I said. Either you didn’t read the post properly, or you didn’t understand it, or you’re just spoiling for an argument. Davie M’s description of you as an “antagonistic troll” looks to be spot on.

Tick tock matey.

Offline Crackpot11

You could never be 100% sure a woman hasn’t been coerced into escorting, however, a good rule of thumb I follow is to only see independents and English girls, working from own homes or hotels. That’s not to say I haven’t visited brothels in the past but I certainly wouldn’t now. Yes escorts all do it for the money but I have found there are a select few which are what I would describe as hobby whores, who enjoy swinging in their personal lives and so have decided to make some money on the side. They tend to be 30+ but I have had a few regulars that fit this criteria. This is the best situation as they tend to be a bit more enthusiastic in the sack too.
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2) A number (hopefully but probably not, most) make a choice to be an escort. Just as the rest of us in employment make a choice to do the jobs we do. We are “forced” to work to fund the lifestyles we want, but we are free to choose what we are employed as. Escorts are no different. They look at the amount they want to earn, look at their own skills, experience, etc and make a choice as to what they can do to earn what they need. That is their own free choice - they found choose alternative employment if they shush, with the corresponding drop in income. These are the escorts I do everything I can to book.

3) There are other escorts who, alas, do not have that freedom of choice either through severe economic hardship, a lack of alternative employment opportunities due to lack of education &/or experience, lack of available vacancies in their area of expertise/locale or who are being forced by another person. These are the escorts who we would all like to avoid, as they are not doing this job through their own free will. They are doing it as a result of having no viable alternative options available to them. Or, worst case scenario, do so through fear of physical violence against them or their families or are trafficked.

I think the girls in category 3 who are "severe economic hardship, a lack of alternative employment opportunities due to lack of education &/or experience, lack of available vacancies in their area of expertise/locale" fit into your category 2. You can hit rock bottom and it's not like escorting is the only way out. It's still a choice you make. You could decide to offer other services that don't require a lot of education or skills. Not going to list those services because I'd probably offend someone.