Post Op TS From Naked Attraction

[Logan26]

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Amira Nadeem from naked attraction has started up a new profile. Working from Rutherglen.
Advertising as a girl.
May appeal to some members

[FBman78]

Marketing as a female!

[Boinky]

I've no problem with her transformation but advertising as female is wrong.

[Logan26]

Totally agree with the above. Always worth a google of the name used. Pics are accurate with instagram. Verified genuine as well but no feedback to verify it is who really it says it is

[J_H]

I've no problem with her transformation but advertising as female is wrong.

+ 1.

And not saying I'm not a bit curious but ... I could see it leading to a nasty situation if a certain type of punter suddenly discovered exactly why she had a 'pussy like silk' - i.e. it was a boaby turned inside oot!

[Cactus]

I've no problem with her transformation but advertising as female is wrong.

Agreed.
I’d go a step further and add that I have no issue with her marketing as female, but there should be a caveat on the profile stating that’s she’s a trans woman.

I fell for it with Madison but knew as soon as I got anywhere near her man made vagina. Not something I’d like tricked into again, but if I knew the score going into it then no issues. Either see her, or don’t see her based on all the facts.

Risky game advertising as female without clarity as for every punter like me who got out of there pronto a bit embarrassed there’s another that would take matters into their own hands to make up for being lured into shagging an ex bloke.

[J_H]

My point entirely Cactus.

Without wishing to be crude, I take the inside-oot-boaby was nothing like the real thing?

[HumphryB]

Totally agree with sentiments with regards to false advertising. Though she is very pretty, from the shovel hands and square body frame its a dead give away and would probably be more apparent when meeting in person never mind a few (likely touched up) images

[Matrix]

Agreed.
I’d go a step further and add that I have no issue with her marketing as female, but there should be a caveat on the profile stating that’s she’s a trans woman.

There's the whole problem.  "They" are clearly a trans women, but "they" are in no way and will never be female.  The definition of which is;

of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilised by male gametes.

I wonder if this fact will upset anyone who's so far gone, they simply can't handle reality.  Although give it a few years, and this clear definition will likely be bastardised to mean just about anything.

Also, currently the law wouldn't be on "her" side if a lawsuit were to pop up.

[HappyG]

Seen her profile a few days ago and i'm sure she mentioned she was post op.

[winkywanky]

There's the whole problem.  "They" are clearly a trans women, but "they" are in no way and will never be female.  The definition of which is;
I wonder if this fact will upset anyone who's so far gone, they simply can't handle reality.  Although give it a few years, and this clear definition will likely be bastardised to mean just about anything.

Also, currently the law wouldn't be on "her" side if a lawsuit were to pop up.

Legally you're wrong. Morally is a matter of opinion.

If she's gone as far as to have her meat & two veg cut off in her pursuit of femininity, then I think in line with current societal norms it would be fair to describe herself as female.

Also consider that her passport would also say this.

But in terms of meeting guys for paid sexual encounters then of course yes, she should state clearly that she's Post-Op Trans Female. Anything else is deception.

[finn5555]

I’d still bang her 

[Cactus]

My point entirely Cactus.

Without wishing to be crude, I take the inside-oot-boaby was nothing like the real thing?

I noticed things weren’t right when I started trying to rub her clit & couldn’t find one, then fingered her a little and things didn’t feel normal. So went down for a closer inspection.

Lots of scar tissue either side of the opening. The cavity itself felt like a hollowed smooth tube without any of the shape or texture like you’d expect. I tried to rub her g spot up behind the public bone, but there was nowhere for my fingers to go.

Sheepishly got out of dodge shortly after. Looking back there were a few other signs.

A few escorts mentioned her and that she was trans, then it became public knowledge on here.

[Matrix]

Legally you're wrong. Morally is a matter of opinion.

If she's gone as far as to have her meat & two veg cut off in her pursuit of femininity, then I think in line with current societal norms it would be fair to describe herself as female.

Also consider that her passport would also say this.

But in terms of meeting guys for paid sexual encounters then of course yes, she should state clearly that she's Post-Op Trans Female. Anything else is deception.

It's quite clear what the term means.

[winkywanky]

It's quite clear what the term means.

What term? Woman?

If so, what you interpret it to mean and what the Law interprets it to mean in this case, are two differnt things.

But of course you're entitled to your opinion.

[Matrix]

What term? Woman?

If so, what you interpret it to mean and what the Law interprets it to mean in this case, are two differnt things.

But of course you're entitled to your opinion.

No, I clearly stated female, although I understand why you'd naturally confuse those 2 terms.  That's not an opinion. It's a fact.

[winkywanky]

No, I clearly stated female, although I understand why you'd naturally confuse those 2 terms.  That's not an opinion. It's a fact.

Fair enough, female.

Like I say, legally you're wrong, but you're entitled to your opinion.

[Matrix]

Fair enough, female.

Like I say, legally you're wrong, but you're entitled to your opinion.

I suppose it depends from which context.  Mine being purely biological, which has been used in legal cases regarding such hypothetical, or not, matters.

We used to have a law up here for witches.  Throw the accused into the Nor loch.  If they drown, they're innocent.  If they can swim, they'll be burnt at the stake as a witch. 

Laws are constructs, biology is a fact.  Legalese doesn't control biological "law", yet.

I guess I should say that; anyone who wishes to transition can, as far as I'm concerned. 

It's very important that words and the laws they make up are precise.

Take the new hate speech legislation being proposed up here, for example.

[winkywanky]

I suppose it depends from which context.  Mine being purely biological, which has been used in legal cases regarding such hypothetical, or not, matters.

We used to have a law up here for witches.  Throw the accused into the Nor loch.  If they drown, they're innocent.  If they can swim, they'll be burnt at the stake as a witch. 

Laws are constructs, biology is a fact.  Legalese doesn't control biological "law", yet.

I guess I should say that; anyone who wishes to transition can, as far as I'm concerned. 

It's very important that words and the laws they make up are precise.

Take the new hate speech legislation being proposed up here, for example.

I appreciate what you're saying, I'm merely pointing out that someone can transition and then legally become the sex they've transitioned to, in terms of passport etc.

There's a lot of hysteria/strong feeling/difference of opinion about this, from both sides it has to be said, which I guess is understandable.

By the way, your witch analogy isn't peculiar to Scotland, that was happening in other places on these Isles as well, and probably all over the world, in different forms.

Of course Law is a construct, man-made to create an environment where people feel safe and able to live their lives as they wish, without treading on other people's lives. If it weren't for the Law for example, if you killed a member of my family I'd probably come wanting to kill you. That's a 'normal' human response (I'm not saying everyone would) which the Law overrides.

Because society changes over time, so do Laws. There's been an exponential change in many areas of Law over the last couple of decades it appears to me, as people become less and less willing to defer to other people's ideas and what they see as unjust use of authority. While this change is taking place and things are evolving, then there will be uncertainty and lack of precision. It's like individuality is going into overdrive.

Will these things ever truly settle down, who knows  .

[J_H]

I don't believe she can 'down a 14 inch cock' ... because, surely, no such thing exists!

I don't even have half that!!

[noodle]

I’d still bang her 

Did you see the show finn? She sound's like a builder when she talks 

[winkywanky]

Did you see the show finn? She sound's like a builder when she talks 

...so long as she can build your extension to Building Regs and with a short snag list, why worry?   

[finn5555]

Did you see the show finn? She sound's like a builder when she talks 

Maybe so but she wouldn’t be saying much with my cock down the back of her throat 

[WeeTodger]

If you went down on a post op, would they actually feel anything?
Or would it just be like someone licked the inside of your leg

[Clattypats]

There is a "trans" section/Tab on AW for a reason... 

[winkywanky]

If you went down on a post op, would they actually feel anything?
Or would it just be like someone licked the inside of your leg

Think I'm right in saying a good surgeon will be able to use functioning nerve-endings from the penis when reworking it into a vagina, so all the pleasurable connections to the relevant part of the brain are retained.

[S.X. MacHine]

Think I'm right in saying a good surgeon will be able to use functioning nerve-endings from the penis when reworking it into a vagina, so all the pleasurable connections to the relevant part of the brain are retained.

I’m not an expert, but I’ve read somewhere that the surgeons will utilise penile tissue to fashion a clitoris of sorts.
I’m pretty sure I shagged a Thai TS in Perth (Scotland), of all places, without her telling me. Bloody convincing. Pretty, too. She kept the room very dark, but  I used ‘sexual braille’ to work out things in the nether regions were, um, different.
It really didn’t bother me and I’d have gone back but for the fact she was expensive. I’m careful with my groats.

[foobarbaz]

Laws are constructs, biology is a fact.  Legalese doesn't control biological "law", yet.

You are right, biology is a fact, so much so that in fact you can be an hermaphrodite and carry both biological genders, or even have a female chromosomes, being female inside yet look male outside, and vice-versa. Take what you want from it, but rest assured that the feel/need to transition doesn't always have psychological connections; I witnessed new born baby going through preventive GRS for the above reasons, so assume that a transwoman is not a biological female can be equally right or wrong depending on the individual circumstances.

[Matrix]

You are right, biology is a fact, so much so that in fact you can be an hermaphrodite and carry both biological genders, or even have a female chromosomes, being female inside yet look male outside, and vice-versa. Take what you want from it, but rest assured that the feel/need to transition doesn't always have psychological connections; I witnessed new born baby going through preventive GRS for the above reasons, so assume that a transwoman is not a biological female can be equally right or wrong depending on the individual circumstances.

Gender isn't biological though.  Although it's generally dictated by it.  Everyone has the "X" female in either XX, XY or in some cases YY.  Unfortunately, being hermaphrodite, is a defect. 

Just another illustration of how muddy this quickly gets.

[timsussex]

  Everyone has the "X" female in either XX, XY or in some cases YY.  .

run that last one past me again ???

[foobarbaz]

Gender isn't biological though.  Although it's generally dictated by it.  Everyone has the "X" female in either XX, XY or in some cases YY.  Unfortunately, being hermaphrodite, is a defect. 

Just another illustration of how muddy this quickly gets.

Defect or not still something that happens biologically. Absolutely my point though, it's not a as simple as white and black topic, there are way too many nuances both in sexuality and gender to just say, oh if you weren't born 100% female than you aren't.

[foobarbaz]

run that last one past me again ???

I wonder if he is talking about the cases where people can be born with an extra chromosome and end up with either XXY or XYY.

[Pablolayla]

Look up "stephane" on youtube am sure that is her 🤣

[foobarbaz]

Look up "stephane" on youtube am sure that is her 🤣

I guess you might need to be a bit more specific than that, my youtube suggestions are surely different from yours 

[Pablolayla]

Did you even look? It will be the in the top of your search

[Matrix]

Defect or not still something that happens biologically. Absolutely my point though, it's not a as simple as white and black topic, there are way too many nuances both in sexuality and gender to just say, oh if you weren't born 100% female than you aren't.

May be a fair point if this was applied to folk who actually fit into that category,  However minuscule. 

[ecosse1984]

She appears to be in Spain just now.

Just a heads up for any one thinking of potentially visiting her, given everything thats going on.

[foobarbaz]

Did you even look? It will be the in the top of your search

Yes I did and my first result is "Performance | Stéphane Deheselle | TEDxBerlin" hence why I'm not sure what you talking about, but as often happens maybe it's just me being thick.

[foobarbaz]

May be a fair point if this was applied to folk who actually fit into that category,  However minuscule.

More than we are probably willing to admit or accept, but we are derailing a bit here and getting lost/trapped in the nuances.

[Astarter]

Not judging be it man/woman or a woman/man let it be. As a punter though surely it's only fair to be told what you are to expect rather than get a nasty surprise. I'm a man after a woman and feel I have every right to know before the event. The same people that would disagree might also agree that we call Christmas, Winterville so as not to offend anyone as has happened here in the UK.

Clearly and utterly this person did not deserve murder but the worst case scenario ends like this: External Link/Members Only 

[foobarbaz]

And on that I think we all agree, false advertisement is false advertisement...

[thekingreturns]

I reckon saying "Female" is fine as long as somewhere on profile it says "Post-op" but thats just me... dont have a problem with trans at all.

[winkywanky]

Not judging be it man/woman or a woman/man let it be. As a punter though surely it's only fair to be told what you are to expect rather than get a nasty surprise. I'm a man after a woman and feel I have every right to know before the event. The same people that would disagree might also agree that we call Christmas, Winterville so as not to offend anyone as has happened here in the UK.

Clearly and utterly this person did not deserve murder but the worst case scenario ends like this: External Link/Members Only

I can't recall anyone here, Trans-punter or otherwise, ever condoning a Trans woman concealing the fact to a punter (or indeed to any guy).

A Trans person has the right to be Trans, just as a guy who doesn't want a sexual encounter with a Trans person has the right not to be tricked into one.

Of course such an event occurring never gives anyone the right to resort to violence in such a case either. I can't see the article in question because I don't want to sign up to the Times, but whatever the details of that sad case, it comes as little surprise that an imbecile like Duterte would grant a pardon to a murderer, just to suck up to Trump  .

[winkywanky]

I reckon saying "Female" is fine as long as somewhere on profile it says "Post-op" but thats just me... dont have a problem with trans at all.

Indeed, what's in a name?

However it's achieved, all that's required is clarity.

[JontyR]

The same people that would disagree might also agree that we call Christmas, Winterville so as not to offend anyone as has happened here in the UK.

Never happened despite what the anti-pc brigade and Mr Daily Mail and Mrs Daily Express say.

[Astarter]

I can't recall anyone here, Trans-punter or otherwise, ever condoning a Trans woman concealing the fact to a punter (or indeed to any guy).

A Trans person has the right to be Trans, just as a guy who doesn't want a sexual encounter with a Trans person has the right not to be tricked into one.

Of course such an event occurring never gives anyone the right to resort to violence in such a case either. I can't see the article in question because I don't want to sign up to the Times, but whatever the details of that sad case, it comes as little surprise that an imbecile like Duterte would grant a pardon to a murderer, just to suck up to Trump  .

Very last I'll say on this.. Apologies if the link I added is asking you to pay for the article I copied and pasted. I used a mobile device and was able to read the full story without signing up for anything and have zero affiliation to the NYT whatsoever.

As for JontyR I don't think of myself as right wing, left wing, Daily Mail reader or Guardian reader. I take it all by a bit at a time as it comes. To think you know everything that happens in Great Britain based on what you've read in the paper is utter noncence. There were absolute 100% incidences where Christmas was reformed in to Winterville be it you care to believe or not but as it's not much relevant to my punting intentions I'll leave it there.

[JontyR]

I take it all by a bit at a time as it comes.

Here you go then, here's a bit that's come...

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Anyway back on point, in fifty - hundred years time this trans issue won't even be a thing. Folks won't think so much about what genitals someone else was born with effects an issue with how they identify themselves and are hung up over. And everyone will all be much happier as a result.

[Astarter]

Here you go then, here's a bit that's come...

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Anyway back on point, in fifty - hundred years time this trans issue won't even be a thing. Folks won't think so much about what genitals someone else was born with effects an issue with how they identify themselves and are hung up over. And everyone will all be much happier as a result.

Ashamed that I'm stopping this low and engaging further but can't help myself with a few days off to spare.

Just because you like that TS stuff doesn't mean we all feel the way you do. No doubt being trans is not an issue at all that's clear. Suggesting that folk (like me) wouldn't care what what gentials someone is born with in a hundred years time is garbage talk. Being the type of guy that I am I can't ever fathom wanting to engage in sexual activity with a man that becomes a woman, not a chance in hell. To be friends with, to sit and have a chat with or anything like that good as could be. To have sex with, not over my dead body. My preference and choice is to be with a woman born and woman and nothing will ever take that away.

As for Winterville, it's not a figment of my imagination, it's a fact. External Link/Members Only

God forbid you're like start referring to Father Christmas as Person Christmas. External Link/Members Only

Over and out for good this time on this one Mr/Mrs Jonty or whatever's you're choice in life is. I bid you well.

[JontyR]

Ashamed that I'm stopping this low and engaging further but can't help myself with a few days off to spare.

Just because you like that TS stuff doesn't mean we all feel the way you do. No doubt being trans is not an issue at all that's clear. Suggesting that folk (like me) wouldn't care what what gentials someone is born with in a hundred years time is garbage talk. Being the type of guy that I am I can't ever fathom wanting to engage in sexual activity with a man that becomes a woman, not a chance in hell. To be friends with, to sit and have a chat with or anything like that good as could be. To have sex with, not over my dead body. My preference and choice is to be with a woman born and woman and nothing will ever take that away.

As for Winterville, it's not a figment of my imagination, it's a fact. External Link/Members Only

God forbid you're like start referring to Father Christmas as Person Christmas. External Link/Members Only

Over and out for good this time on this one Mr/Mrs Jonty or whatever's you're choice in life is. I bid you well.

I don't know why engaging in conversation is stooping low but ok....

You seem to be taking a lot of generalised discussion very personally and they are not meant that way.

Winterval has existed, true, I never suggested it didn't, but because to suggest that it is because it "politically correct" is not right.

All of the labels we are talking about here are human constructs and any issues we have with them are our own. It's not about being in to TS or not. If you fancy someone and they fancy you ...sleep together. If in this case they are open to sleeping with you for a fee and you want to pay it then do ...or don't. It's no ones business apart from the two of you.

Honestly I don't see why the SP would have an issue with listing the background as I am pretty sure they don't want to trick anyone, or indeed have it away with someone who would have an issue with it. I can't imagine an encounter like that would be decent for either party.

The Father Christmas story is truly ridiculous, but again...follow the money. The "source" is a site called UniLad which actually, as far as i can see, doesn't have any source for who is proposing such a change.

Still thank you for your good wishes. I wish you all the best too. 

[jeanphillipe]

Id call her a woman, but shes not a woman.

But considering the lengths shes gone to i would say she should be considered a woman in practical purposes ie toilet use, prison etc .

But yes biolgically she is still a man.

Should have mentioned on her page she is post op tho

Oh and i would tap that though , looks hot.