At what point is it meaningsless to spend more on a WG? Can money gurantee 10/10

[Tender.french.kiss]

If we, as you say, we have no experience of the 'high end' prossies, why are you asking us for our advice.   

Exactly, got caught in his own contradictions and pompous ramblings

[Tender.french.kiss]

First of all you don't say how old you are, or how experienced you are sexually.
You come across as a bit of a fantasist.

Sounds to me like a scientific uni student who still has not popped his cherry because he's waiting for his dream unicorn to materialise from his 'research' and formulas   

[Alabastern]

You came on here thinking you can post what you like, insult the membership and then expect help.

I've been moderating for too long not to spot bullshit. Read your post back and have a little think. You aren't rich yet are willing to spend over £10,000 on punting in the short term. It makes no sense.

The rules state "no personal photos from anywhere".

Edit

Did you try Google, because there are quite a few agencies who charge £700 + PH.

I thought you would pull the trigger and ban me, I applaud you for showing restrain, who knows, maybe one day I will provide high end reviews of high end WGs. I have comments about who insulted who, but I rather forego this and focus about the purpose of this boards - discussing WGs.

You counted wrong, I wrote These girls cost around 800-1200eur/2h if we count on the high end 1200eur for three girls that 3600euro, one of them overnight thats about extra 2500eur so total around 6000eur in total. It is a lot of money certainly but considering this one time expense for a long sought after goal, most average workers in the west either have those money on hand or could acquire them easily by selling a stocks or something simliar. This by no mean proves I am trolling you.

Of course I have googled key words like those you suggested and I have checked those websites, but there are several red flags with UK agencies compared to the EU ones. UK ones generally have not taken their own pictures of the models and or have old pics in their websites. UK ones have no exclusive models or very few ones. UK ones have horrible pictures extremely airbrushed. EU have so many advantages that I didnt focus my research on UK, when I was member of captain69 I would search for EU ones and found great reviews for agencies like aphrodite agency, this cemented my belief that EU agencies simply were better.

Btw will I continue to have get my posts approved or will I eventually be able to post without having to wait for you to approve them?

[daviemac]

I thought you would pull the trigger and ban me, I applaud you for showing restrain, who knows, maybe one day I will provide high end reviews of high end WGs. I have comments about who insulted who, but I rather forego this and focus about the purpose of this boards - discussing WGs.

You counted wrong, I wrote These girls cost around 800-1200eur/2h if we count on the high end 1200eur for three girls that 3600euro, one of them overnight thats about extra 2500eur so total around 6000eur in total. It is a lot of money certainly but considering this one time expense for a long sought after goal, most average workers in the west either have those money on hand or could acquire them easily by selling a stocks or something simliar. This by no mean proves I am trolling you.

Of course I have googled key words like those you suggested and I have checked those websites, but there are several red flags with UK agencies compared to the EU ones. UK ones generally have not taken their own pictures of the models and or have old pics in their websites. UK ones have no exclusive models or very few ones. UK ones have horrible pictures extremely airbrushed. EU have so many advantages that I didnt focus my research on UK, when I was member of captain69 I would search for EU ones and found great reviews for agencies like aphrodite agency, this cemented my belief that EU agencies simply were better.

Btw will I continue to have get my posts approved or will I eventually be able to post without having to wait for you to approve them?

Ok so it's about £5,000 you will be spending, the real question is how many would want to spend that amount of money chasing something that doesn't exist.

Can I refer you to one of my original questions, why, if you are looking to punt in Europe, have you not posted this in the relevant European section of the forum.

Oh your posts will have to be approved until you satisfy the criteria required for that restriction to be removed.

[Tender.french.kiss]

I have done research you know, many hours of research and everything indicate that indeed more money gives you hotter escorts and better service. .... But if you have done your research ...

Dear OP, as you are obviously so much more superior to us all, have done so much research, and have been gifted by the gods with an innate sense of calibrated beauty, why don't you create your own super select agency catering for this niche market you so strongly fantasise about?
You'd no doubt make shitload of money and could then be in an even better position to start getting your dick wet.

As many have stated:
1) what's a 10? Several have already pointed that out, but you don't seem to listen to what is being said to you. So let me try a different analogy. What's the absolute very best dish in the entire world? Caviar on blinis, Juicy meat from a barbecue, grilled goat cheese on toast with watercress, fresh fruit salad, grilled fish, King Prawn sweet & sour, Chocolate fudge cake, bacon and egg sandwich ... Well I love them all. But some may not appeal to me on some days. And some may not appeal at all to others.
2) there is nothing like a perfect 10. Because even if there was, humans crave diversity, so after you second or third shag with that perfect 10, she would de facto become a 9, even to you.
3) You apparently unaware of the 2 previous points let me believe that you strongly lack experience with the female gender. A 10 one day might be an 8 another day (and vice versa). Physical beauty is just one parameter in the magic equation which preoccupies you. Charisma, humour, sensuality, slutiness ... there are so many more aspects which make a girl (and the time we can spend with her) unforgettable. A girl is not just a score defined by the beauty of her fleshy tissues.

I could go on deconstruct your arguments but honestly I won't waste much more time as I suspect that instead of an ignorant misled virgin you might actually just be a troll.

So my final advise to you is that instead of spending more time in your theoretical research (like an alchemist desperately trying to find the elusive philosopher's stone), join us to do some real field-based research. Much more rewarding you'll see. And usually in most domains experts are people who have a background of hand-on experience at the beginning of their career and not just genius born with a know-it-all gift.
... and then do not forget to post reviews of your hands-on findings as this is what this place is about, a place to share real intel about the real world and not a select club for intellectual masturbators.

[mills_and_bhuna]

Some people take this game far too seriously.

[Alabastern]

In regards to your first point, that is fine. I understand that.

Your second point however, money is not a guarantee that you will find a socially competent and emotionally smart WG. I think you may be conflating social backgrounds of women with how much they may charge. For example, pornstars charge the highest fees but if you look at their background and personalities which they show to the public, would you say they are "emotionally smart"? Anyway, by emotionally smart you must be specific, are you looking for a WG that will cater to your every one of your emotional and sexual needs who happens to be a natural "10" and this is why you are prepared to pay premium?


How did you get this sense of a calibrated idea of beauty? Can you trace what has influenced you to think like this? Why do you desire this in the first place? Several angles over several days? I understand being analytical but don't you think that is slightly excessive? Natural girls with superb looks often end up models etc...so how will you find them then? There is no specific agency that solely caters to men looking for superb naturals.

What is your end goal? lets say you do manage to find a WG that meets your requirements? What will you do if they do not want to service you or let you down after you have spent all the money and time? What will happen if she does excel your expectations and then you run out of money to afford her? What will you do then? Start again?

Personally, I understand your viewpoint but don't you think this seems like a futile chase of perfection? It will only end in disapointment I think. Why? Because even if you did manage to find a woman like that it will sting that you have to pay her to pretend to be a sophisticated courtesan towards you fufilling your every need, it will probably lead you to being hateful. Honestly, it's not worth it. First, find a way to become rich then you can worry about finding the perfect specimen of a woman. Otherwise you will be stuck researching for years and building an idea which may not really exist or is currently out of reach for you.

The kind of socially competence that is ordinary, when it comes to social competence, etiquette and Emotional intelligence I am satisfied with the girl being average. I have no doubt that every single one of the girls of the escort agencies have girls that at least are social competent. The tricky is to find the tens. That leads me to my next point what is a ten? Hadnt Dave deleted half of my message to you you would get a good idea of how and why a a 6 is a 6 and 7 is a 7 etc. since I cant bother to write my wall of text again I will tell you the most important thing. Though I judge girls by my subjective feeling I stiil use some kind of quantitive measure. For instance to me a true ten is when you have that raw beauty, every single part of the face is flawless and together her face pulls you in, breathtaking. However a nine could do the same thing, the differnce is that the ten doesnt need a drop of make up, a true ten is a true ten even after a shower or newly awakened. The nine need that make up to look like a ten, I am happy to send you a couple of examples throught the PMs. Several angles over several days have been misunderstood I simply meant that you need to see a girl from different angles, videos are good at achieving that, also I would like to see pictures and videos over a period since a girl could be a bit different day to day. 

My end goal is to sleep with one of the hottest golddiggers the planet have seen, to have fucked the pinnacle of beauty. Knowing I have done that would give me satisfaction I believe. By lowering my expectations and going with marginals on my side I hope I wont be dissapointed. Iagree that getting rich is a priority, with enough money I can practically buy anything I want. I agree what most have said, take action dont overthink, however I am patient a little more, I hoped to find members that have used high end WG I hoped to read reports and discussion of those high end places in this boards, unfortunately none of the dating agencies I searched for had any reviews, I think I will buy subscription over at ISG and bother them with a couple of threads and if the respons is similiar at that point I will have to decide what to do.

Two questions:
1. you mentioned earlier Also, with your standards...if you are not up to measure in terms of how you carry yourself, no matter how much money you throw at a 10/10 or any woman at that...odds are, they will never respect you enough for you to truly know they mean it when they fuck you and you still will not be satisfied. Could you elaborate further what you mean?

2. What do you  think about contacting a hundred girls on socials that I know are tens or at lest 9.5s and try to convince them by using the foot in the door techqniqe to convince them to become my sugar baby. Surely the likelyhood for at least one success out of a hundred should be very high

[Alabastern]

Ok so it's about £5,000 you will be spending, the real question is how many would want to spend that amount of money chasing something that doesn't exist.

Can I refer you to one of my original questions, why, if you are looking to punt in Europe, have you not posted this in the relevant European section of the forum.

Oh your posts will have to be approved until you satisfy the criteria required for that restriction to be removed.

My question dont have a geographical destiny since I was and still am open to travel anywhere in europe.

[CatBBW]

My end goal is to sleep with one of the hottest golddiggers the planet have seen

You are moving the goalposts now, babay.

You're on a forum talking about ESCORTS (or prostitutes).

You want a gold digger? You're on the wrong site.




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[CatBBW]

2. What do you  think about contacting a hundred girls on socials that I know are tens or at lest 9.5s and try to convince them by using the foot in the door techqniqe to convince them to become my sugar baby. Surely the likelyhood for at least one success out of a hundred should be very high

I think you have boundary issues, and at the very least you will come across as a creep.

[JontyR]

OP, you state that you are different to other guys as you would prefer to shag one 10 rather than a dozen 9s.

Thing is as far as I can see you haven't done either, so you are guessing how you would feel.

Beauty and sexiness are two completely different things.

Your talk about emotional availability, again to most folks on here your assertions smack of distinct naivety. Your use of language suggests either breathing in too much of the rarified air of academia, a whiff of ASD or that English isn't your first language. This isn't a criticism, just letting you know how you may be perceived.

If you are talking about research, you may want to go onto the wayback machine, back in the early days of paid sex coming onto the internet there were many high class agencies charging very large fees. This was for girls that would advertise elsewhere for considerably less. The reason for the research? Well it was just more obvious then as the online presences were not proliferating like now.

If you are serious about this I'd suggest you may be best detailing our requirements to an agency and seeing if they can help you. They should know the women they represent the best. However you will need to still guard against the same issues of being suspected of being a fantasist. With them, like here you may have to front up in some way to prove yourself.

Otherwise I'd actually suggest to continue your trawl and seek out if there are any independents that meet your requirements. 

But what this all boils down to is that you are seeking a niche provider, her niche being charging a lot whilst meeting your exacting requirements in terms of looks and demeanour. Despite what you may think it is no different really to any other niche provider that may charge a premium.

Failing all of the above though, have you considered going out for the night and investing in some high end beer goggles?

[CatBBW]

You are moving the goalposts now, babay.

You're on a forum talking about ESCORTS (or prostitutes).

You want a gold digger? You're on the wrong site.

.

Arse, I mean you're on a forum THAT IS talking about escorts.... etc etc.

[Colston36]

The truth is, that if you're rich enough, you wouldn't need to ask on a punting forum.

The question was incomprehensible, but you, Sir, spent over £800 recently on a couple of hours with two ladies. When I was younger and richer I used to fly to Munich to see a video "star" with rare skills. And come to think of it when older I took a notorious Domme on holiday to South Africa. That led to a drunken night with a house full of lesbians among other things. At the moment I hope to take an exceptionally filthy Welsh trollop to Romania for three days.We pay what we can afford for what we want - and hope it works out. What we don't do is engage on witless quasi-philosophical dithering about it.

[SALIBA]

It boils down to what you want from a meet. From my experience, you need to revisit an SP if you want a better experience most of the time. (providing the first meet was successful) I don't want to use the word chemistry, but I am saying it helps if you're both familiar with eachother. Price wise, However much that SP charges is neither here nor there if what you desire is on offer.

[MilleMiglia]

Not sure if the OP is banned or not, but I think this should keep him occupied:

External Link/Members Only

[CheeseBoard]

I went to Monaco a number of years ago.  Go to a casino there.  Loads of 'high end' hookers hanging about.  Much easier than all the effort you appear to have put into this.

Fill your boots, and leave a review 

[RAJEC]

This guys sounds like a twat 

[Thephoenix]

Your questions are hypothetical, bordering on complete fantasy.

In the punting world you can do research until the cows come home.

You can listen to the advice, follow the guidelines etc etc, but the folk on here will also tell you about another law that particularly applies to punting.........SODS LAW!

How does that apply to your idea?

Well.... you'll spend £5,000/£6000 on 3 perfect women who you have chosen as your short list.

How you're going to pick your favourite is anybody's guess, but SODS LAW suggests that even after you've experienced your night of bliss, which is unlikely to live up to your fantasy, in the cold light of day, and when she farts as she gets out of bed, you'll just wonder whether that other girl you nearly picked might have been a better choice.

Welcome to the real world of punting.

[daviemac]

The question was incomprehensible, but you, Sir, spent over £800 recently on a couple of hours with two ladies. When I was younger and richer I used to fly to Munich to see a video "star" with rare skills. And come to think of it when older I took a notorious Domme on holiday to South Africa. That led to a drunken night with a house full of lesbians among other things. At the moment I hope to take an exceptionally filthy Welsh trollop to Romania for three days.We pay what we can afford for what we want - and hope it works out. What we don't do is engage on witless quasi-philosophical dithering about it.

He hasn't spent anything on anybody, he hasn't had a punt yet. He said Though I have not yet bought any and I could spend.

[Slaveofnature]

What a ridiculous load of pseudo intellectual pomposity with a healthy portion of humble bragging. £6000 for three punts - a fool and his money is easily parted.

[hendrix]

The question was incomprehensible, but you, Sir, spent over £800 recently on a couple of hours with two ladies. When I was younger and richer I used to fly to Munich to see a video "star" with rare skills. And come to think of it when older I took a notorious Domme on holiday to South Africa. That led to a drunken night with a house full of lesbians among other things. At the moment I hope to take an exceptionally filthy Welsh trollop to Romania for three days.We pay what we can afford for what we want - and hope it works out. What we don't do is engage on witless quasi-philosophical dithering about it.

Indeed 

[Ali Katt]

Short version:
Imagine you had 50 pounds to spend on a WG for an hour. Now imagine you double that amount to 100 are you confident you are able to find more attractive WG? How about you double to 200, do you still think 200 will aford you a hotter girl 100 couldnt aford you? what about double again to 400? 800? 1600? 3200? 6400? 12800? 25600? 51 200?
At what point does doubling not afford you a even hotter girl? The second question and more importantly how would you use that money to find the hottest girld possible independent? agency? independent? sugar baby? europe or outside?
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Longer version with background and more questions

Imagine that you dont want to buy sex because you are horny neither are you interested to fuck many girls. Instead this is more a thing on your bucket list - you really want to have sex with an extremely beautiul girl. You know you dont have the charms to make the hottest 0.1% girls on this planet to fall for you, so you start to look for alternative ways.

Above sums up the reason I have been interested to buy sex. Though I have not yet bought any, last year have peaked my interest, what once was idle thought now started to look more serious, I began researching, taking notes, monitor escort agencies, reading review after review. I come up with three agencies I decided probably had the hottest girls in europe. Those are 1) Ivana models 2) felinesescort 3) aphrodite agency. These girls cost around 800-1200eur/2h  Thats expensive but nothing preposterous I probably could book three of those for 2 hours a piece and then choose the best one for an overnight and then leave the escorting world for good. So far so good, but then further research led me to believe that I overestimated how hot these girls would be, If I book three I probably would meet an 8/10, very lucky if I would meet 9/10, forget a 10/10. Yeah, my scale is very tough an eigth is like hottest 2-3 girls in a class(top 10%), a nine is the hottest girl a school(top 2-3%) and a ten is the hottest girl in town or a large university(top 0.1%).

I realised I most likely needed much more money, after further research I realised that I probably needed to find the girls that would walk the street of cannes with celebrities around their arms, the girls that would fuck royalty and arab shejks. Girls that seriosusly looked like models or maybe even hotter than models since models are not mainly chosen for their attractiveness. So I started to save.

1) Unfortunately there is very few guys like me, most guys do this regulary so price becomes very important, for me this a one time thing. Most guys would rather fuck hundred really hot nines than fuck only one flawless ten, not me i would rather have that ten only one time. My unique approach have made it hard for me to get some of my question answered. So my first question is if there is any board out there that are specially focused on very very high WG that truly look marvelous?

2) Is there any agency that focus on all natural girls?

3) I still couldnt find a place to find the girls that fit royalty. Any suggestion where to find them and what they would cost? I heard a former victoria secret model that charged 25 000£/hour, but that was several years ago I dont have any idea where and how she marketed herself.

4) Lastly my last question and this might be the most important, I am wrong, knowing what I look for, should I looking for other ways than prostitution, maybe finding sugar babies? Or maybe contact a girl that I know for a fact is a ten and try to convince to become a sugar baby?

Thank you for your time reading, thinking and finally typing your helpful replies.

Escort or a rat? You decide. Looks like the sort of clumsy writing that is prolific on blog style "educational" posts.

[Stevelondon]

The question was incomprehensible, but you, Sir, spent over £800 recently on a couple of hours with two ladies. When I was younger and richer I used to fly to Munich to see a video "star" with rare skills. And come to think of it when older I took a notorious Domme on holiday to South Africa. That led to a drunken night with a house full of lesbians among other things. At the moment I hope to take an exceptionally filthy Welsh trollop to Romania for three days.We pay what we can afford for what we want - and hope it works out. What we don't do is engage on witless quasi-philosophical dithering about it.

You and I sir, share a similar taste (for want of a better word).
I used to catch the tram and see a girl who had appeared in a Tesco advert as a kid. She had this skill of being able to turn her eyelids inside out which did nothing for me but there you go.
I too am friends with a Dom. Not sure she’s notorious, more your girl next door with a whip. She’s homophobic so I doubt there’s any chance of me landing up with a roomful of lesbians.

Saying that of course. I’m reminded of the old joke about being shipwrecked on a desert island with two beautiful women. Sadly they were both ........ you’ve heard it before I know.
At this precise moment in time I’m not taking anybody anywhere but as soon as I think it’s a better time to travel. I’ll be taking this Irish skank I know to Margate for four days.

You gotta live a little eh ?

 

[Ali Katt]

You and I sir, share a similar taste (for want of a better word).
I used to catch the tram and see a girl who had appeared in a Tesco advert as a kid. She had this skill of being able to turn her eyelids inside out which did nothing for me but there you go.
I too am friends with a Dom. Not sure she’s notorious, more your girl next door with a whip. She’s homophobic so I doubt there’s any chance of me landing up with a roomful of lesbians.

Saying that of course. I’m reminded of the old joke about being shipwrecked on a desert island with two beautiful women. Sadly they were both ........ you’ve heard it before I know.
At this precise moment in time I’m not taking anybody anywhere but as soon as I think it’s a better time to travel. I’ll be taking this Irish skank I know to Margate for four days.

You gotta live a little eh ?

 

Very little helps.

[Belgarion]

What in fresh hell is this thread?

[Alabastern]

Yes my question was hypothetical, but this is only part of the reason the discussion was so theoretical, the other part was lack of hands on experience from your guys part, at least none wrote anything. I was hoping for guys that had experience from mentioned agencies or simliar agencies that I deem be trustworthy and very smooth and professional like annaclaire, amorette international would engage in this thread and speak of their experiences and recommendation, the dream situation would be to have guys that have experienced from the very very high end agencies or madams of how prostitutes recruited from mainstream model agencies were to fuck, and more importantly where they were to be found. No hey no damage done,I read plenty of thoughtful responses, also the engagement level were higher that I expected. So its time to leave it be. I would like to ask other questions though.

There is several difference between UK high end agencies and the EU ones I have found a liking for, here are some questions regarding that:

Why do UK ones mostly have pics with the girls faces while thats rarely happen in EU?
Why do UK ones have so much airbrushing going in ther pics.
Why do UK ones rarely have exclusive models?

Is there even a UK one that behave more like an EU elite agency as those I mentioned? By this I mean that they have exclusive models that they take pictures of, and if twoish years pass they would update their pics with a new set of pictures. The pictures are only slightly airbrushed.

[daviemac]

Yes my question was hypothetical, but this is only part of the reason the discussion was so theoretical, the other part was lack of hands on experience from your guys part, at least none wrote anything. I was hoping for guys that had experience from mentioned agencies or simliar agencies that I deem be trustworthy and very smooth and professional like annaclaire, amorette international would engage in this thread and speak of their experiences and recommendation, the dream situation would be to have guys that have experienced from the very very high end agencies or madams of how prostitutes recruited from mainstream model agencies were to fuck, and more importantly where they were to be found. No hey no damage done,I read plenty of thoughtful responses, also the engagement level were higher that I expected. So its time to leave it be. I would like to ask other questions though.

There is several difference between UK high end agencies and the EU ones I have found a liking for, here are some questions regarding that:

Why do UK ones mostly have pics with the girls faces while thats rarely happen in EU?
Why do UK ones have so much airbrushing going in ther pics.
Why do UK ones rarely have exclusive models?

Is there even a UK one that behave more like an EU elite agency as those I mentioned? By this I mean that they have exclusive models that they take pictures of, and if twoish years pass they would update their pics with a new set of pictures. The pictures are only slightly airbrushed.

So you aren't really looking to see escorts you are just doing some kind of research.

Are you a journalist.   

[tynetunnel]

I aiming for girls that are trained by madams in Paris in the art of fucking. No wonder you rather prefered ridicule instead of help, you were unable to help me even if you wanted to.

You are a complete fantasist. Perhaps you should search a French punters forum and grab one right out of training school 

I doubt anyone on here can help you 

[Ali Katt]

Yes my question was hypothetical, but this is only part of the reason the discussion was so theoretical, the other part was lack of hands on experience from your guys part, at least none wrote anything. I was hoping for guys that had experience from mentioned agencies or simliar agencies that I deem be trustworthy and very smooth and professional like annaclaire, amorette international would engage in this thread and speak of their experiences and recommendation, the dream situation would be to have guys that have experienced from the very very high end agencies or madams of how prostitutes recruited from mainstream model agencies were to fuck, and more importantly where they were to be found. No hey no damage done,I read plenty of thoughtful responses, also the engagement level were higher that I expected. So its time to leave it be. I would like to ask other questions though.

There is several difference between UK high end agencies and the EU ones I have found a liking for, here are some questions regarding that:

Why do UK ones mostly have pics with the girls faces while thats rarely happen in EU?
Why do UK ones have so much airbrushing going in ther pics.
Why do UK ones rarely have exclusive models?

Is there even a UK one that behave more like an EU elite agency as those I mentioned? By this I mean that they have exclusive models that they take pictures of, and if twoish years pass they would update their pics with a new set of pictures. The pictures are only slightly airbrushed.

To answer these questions they don't. A lot of exclusive "models" work the parlours and have AW pages.

[Steely Dan]

How can you possible know that the lying shitty EU agencies are better than the honest ones from Blighty?  Based on what you read on the internet?  I have personal experience.  Beyond my 100+ reviews, I have postings in the international section (that don't count as reviews).  And experience before I joined.  But your desk top research gives you more experience than my bedroom experience.  Why did you ask those of us that know when you wont consider our answer?

Also, remember, it is the escort that you fuck, not the agency.  Even if the EU agency were better, it doesn't mean the girl will be more of a ten (looks and character) in whatever undefined measure you have decided in your head.

*BTW A member once created a scale for what a 10 was.  Which ones are a 10 for you? External Link/Members Only

[Hobbit]

Short version:
Imagine you had 50 pounds to spend on a WG for an hour. Now imagine you double that amount to 100 are you confident you are able to find more attractive WG? How about you double to 200, do you still think 200 will aford you a hotter girl 100 couldnt aford you? what about double again to 400? 800? 1600? 3200? 6400? 12800? 25600? 51 200?
At what point does doubling not afford you a even hotter girl? The second question and more importantly how would you use that money to find the hottest girld possible independent? agency? independent? sugar baby? europe or outside?
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Longer version with background and more questions

Imagine that you dont want to buy sex because you are horny neither are you interested to fuck many girls. Instead this is more a thing on your bucket list - you really want to have sex with an extremely beautiul girl. You know you dont have the charms to make the hottest 0.1% girls on this planet to fall for you, so you start to look for alternative ways.

Above sums up the reason I have been interested to buy sex. Though I have not yet bought any, last year have peaked my interest, what once was idle thought now started to look more serious, I began researching, taking notes, monitor escort agencies, reading review after review. I come up with three agencies I decided probably had the hottest girls in europe. Those are 1) Ivana models 2) felinesescort 3) aphrodite agency. These girls cost around 800-1200eur/2h  Thats expensive but nothing preposterous I probably could book three of those for 2 hours a piece and then choose the best one for an overnight and then leave the escorting world for good. So far so good, but then further research led me to believe that I overestimated how hot these girls would be, If I book three I probably would meet an 8/10, very lucky if I would meet 9/10, forget a 10/10. Yeah, my scale is very tough an eigth is like hottest 2-3 girls in a class(top 10%), a nine is the hottest girl a school(top 2-3%) and a ten is the hottest girl in town or a large university(top 0.1%).

I realised I most likely needed much more money, after further research I realised that I probably needed to find the girls that would walk the street of cannes with celebrities around their arms, the girls that would fuck royalty and arab shejks. Girls that seriosusly looked like models or maybe even hotter than models since models are not mainly chosen for their attractiveness. So I started to save.

1) Unfortunately there is very few guys like me, most guys do this regulary so price becomes very important, for me this a one time thing. Most guys would rather fuck hundred really hot nines than fuck only one flawless ten, not me i would rather have that ten only one time. My unique approach have made it hard for me to get some of my question answered. So my first question is if there is any board out there that are specially focused on very very high WG that truly look marvelous?

2) Is there any agency that focus on all natural girls?

3) I still couldnt find a place to find the girls that fit royalty. Any suggestion where to find them and what they would cost? I heard a former victoria secret model that charged 25 000£/hour, but that was several years ago I dont have any idea where and how she marketed herself.

4) Lastly my last question and this might be the most important, I am wrong, knowing what I look for, should I looking for other ways than prostitution, maybe finding sugar babies? Or maybe contact a girl that I know for a fact is a ten and try to convince to become a sugar baby?

Thank you for your time reading, thinking and finally typing your helpful replies.

I think you have a lot to learn and the only way to learn is to go out there start punting and seeing girls. You will then realise that it is not just all about finding a hot-looking escort, there are many variables at play and the service provided is one of the key factors. For me personally, I would rather be with an average-looking girl who is enthusiastic and dirty in the bedroom than be with an extremely attractive hooker that just provides a vanilla service.

It's horses for courses at the end of the day but there's no point choosing a horse if you have never been to a racetrack.

[hendrix]

Yes my question was hypothetical, but this is only part of the reason the discussion was so theoretical, the other part was lack of hands on experience from your guys part, at least none wrote anything. I was hoping for guys that had experience from mentioned agencies or simliar agencies that I deem be trustworthy and very smooth and professional like annaclaire, amorette international would engage in this thread and speak of their experiences and recommendation, the dream situation would be to have guys that have experienced from the very very high end agencies or madams of how prostitutes recruited from mainstream model agencies were to fuck, and more importantly where they were to be found. No hey no damage done,I read plenty of thoughtful responses, also the engagement level were higher that I expected. So its time to leave it be. I would like to ask other questions though.

There is several difference between UK high end agencies and the EU ones I have found a liking for, here are some questions regarding that:

Why do UK ones mostly have pics with the girls faces while thats rarely happen in EU?
Why do UK ones have so much airbrushing going in ther pics.
Why do UK ones rarely have exclusive models?

Is there even a UK one that behave more like an EU elite agency as those I mentioned? By this I mean that they have exclusive models that they take pictures of, and if twoish years pass they would update their pics with a new set of pictures. The pictures are only slightly airbrushed.

Oh sorry, I misunderstood. So, you've already used these agencies and have experience with their whores and are looking for a UK equivalent?

[Payyourwaymate]

The kind of socially competence that is ordinary, when it comes to social competence, etiquette and Emotional intelligence I am satisfied with the girl being average. I have no doubt that every single one of the girls of the escort agencies have girls that at least are social competent. The tricky is to find the tens. That leads me to my next point what is a ten? Hadnt Dave deleted half of my message to you you would get a good idea of how and why a a 6 is a 6 and 7 is a 7 etc. since I cant bother to write my wall of text again I will tell you the most important thing. Though I judge girls by my subjective feeling I stiil use some kind of quantitive measure. For instance to me a true ten is when you have that raw beauty, every single part of the face is flawless and together her face pulls you in, breathtaking. However a nine could do the same thing, the differnce is that the ten doesnt need a drop of make up, a true ten is a true ten even after a shower or newly awakened. The nine need that make up to look like a ten, I am happy to send you a couple of examples throught the PMs. Several angles over several days have been misunderstood I simply meant that you need to see a girl from different angles, videos are good at achieving that, also I would like to see pictures and videos over a period since a girl could be a bit different day to day. 

My end goal is to sleep with one of the hottest golddiggers the planet have seen, to have fucked the pinnacle of beauty. Knowing I have done that would give me satisfaction I believe. By lowering my expectations and going with marginals on my side I hope I wont be dissapointed. Iagree that getting rich is a priority, with enough money I can practically buy anything I want. I agree what most have said, take action dont overthink, however I am patient a little more, I hoped to find members that have used high end WG I hoped to read reports and discussion of those high end places in this boards, unfortunately none of the dating agencies I searched for had any reviews, I think I will buy subscription over at ISG and bother them with a couple of threads and if the respons is similiar at that point I will have to decide what to do.

Two questions:
1. you mentioned earlier Also, with your standards...if you are not up to measure in terms of how you carry yourself, no matter how much money you throw at a 10/10 or any woman at that...odds are, they will never respect you enough for you to truly know they mean it when they fuck you and you still will not be satisfied. Could you elaborate further what you mean?

2. What do you  think about contacting a hundred girls on socials that I know are tens or at lest 9.5s and try to convince them by using the foot in the door techqniqe to convince them to become my sugar baby. Surely the likelyhood for at least one success out of a hundred should be very high

The answer to question 1 is you cannot use money alone to buy what you are looking for. The members on ISG would not have given the responses we have, they would have slated you as an idiot.

The answer to question 2 is that is not a good idea, you would have better luck if you went to a cheaper cost of living area to try and find what you are looking for, maybe Eastern Europe, Russia, South America. To be honest with the personality traits you have displayed, I think you may have some challenges getting women to come around.

I have nothing else to say, I have tried to accommodate and be open minded with your perspectives but anymore than this will test my patience lol. Good luck with everything and I hope it works out. Stop overthinking, it's really not that complicated.

[Steely Dan]

while I aiming for girls that are trained by madams in Paris in the art of fucking.

And this is so not true.  Something made up by hollywood or novelists.  Did a man teach you to fuck?  It makes no sense.

Girls learn to fuck the same way we do.  Trial and error.  A tip here or there from a new partner.  Being sensitive.  Listening. A bit of gut instinct. Doing more of what works. Even (gasp) ideas from porn - though some things seen in porn are terrible / no fun for either partner.  But not from madams in Paris.

[Moby Dick]

My question dont have a geographical destiny since I was and still am open to travel anywhere in europe.

Sure you can’t travel further.
How about a another planet?
Planet Retard!

[Alabastern]

CatBBW
As a WG imagine an unexperienced booked you for 2h, he arent sure if this escorting thing is right for him so he mainly wants to talk maybe do some some soft stuff maybe a massage. He would want to get to know you during a stroll maybe fondle a bit bossom on a bench when nobody sees.

Now how would you perceive such a dude and would you be open to let him to know you? And how do you think other escort would perceive him, would they be open with him about how they really feel about escorting or would it all be pretending?

And what do you think about doing something together instead meeting at a hotel or home. Maybe as simple as taking a stroll or maybe a swim or going out shopping to help the punter find some stylish clothes

2. Would it be deluded for a guy to want to establish a true honest friendship with a sugarbabe or an escort?

[Alabastern]

So you aren't really looking to see escorts you are just doing some kind of research.

Are you a journalist.   

I am doing research so that I can found the best way to have sex with the hottest girl. Currently I am leaning more on sugar babes than escorting.

[Alabastern]

To answer these questions they don't. A lot of exclusive "models" work the parlours and have AW pages.

Who dont? you mean those exclusive models listed in UK(or EU) are fake and not exclusive?

[Alabastern]

How can you possible know that the lying shitty EU agencies are better than the honest ones from Blighty?  Based on what you read on the internet?  I have personal experience.  Beyond my 100+ reviews, I have postings in the international section (that don't count as reviews).  And experience before I joined.  But your desk top research gives you more experience than my bedroom experience.  Why did you ask those of us that know when you wont consider our answer?

Also, remember, it is the escort that you fuck, not the agency.  Even if the EU agency were better, it doesn't mean the girl will be more of a ten (looks and character) in whatever undefined measure you have decided in your head.

*BTW A member once created a scale for what a 10 was.  Which ones are a 10 for you? External Link/Members Only

I mean a large chunk of those reviews about EU agencies I listed came from captain69, are you telling me captain69 are not to be trusted?

I would say Irina shayk and Ariana Lima are tens. Also if its a person I have not seen I need several pics/vids to make fair judgement. I will PM you a couple of other example of how I would rate.

[Alabastern]

Oh sorry, I misunderstood. So, you've already used these agencies and have experience with their whores and are looking for a UK equivalent?

I am speaking of experience of monitoring those sites, not fucking their girls.

[Alabastern]

And this is so not true.  Something made up by hollywood or novelists.  Did a man teach you to fuck?  It makes no sense.

Girls learn to fuck the same way we do.  Trial and error.  A tip here or there from a new partner.  Being sensitive.  Listening. A bit of gut instinct. Doing more of what works. Even (gasp) ideas from porn - though some things seen in porn are terrible / no fun for either partner.  But not from madams in Paris.

Read it in an article i deemed trustworthy, wanna read it youself and judge?

[daviemac]

I am doing research so that I can found the best way to have sex with the hottest girl. Currently I am leaning more on sugar babes than escorting.

You didn't answer the question. Are you a journalist.   

[hendrix]

I am speaking of experience of monitoring those sites, not fucking their girls.

How the hell can you deem an agency (pimp, let's be clear) to be "professional, trustworthy and smooth" based on a website that any kid could put together?   

[golden bull]

Jeez that was long winded…. Just read all the to’s and fro’s.
I had no idea Jacob the ‘rad’ Moggy has become a member on here condescending to all ( including me) you peasants and NONE of you have had the experience he’s had regarding high social etiquette.

Either that or this dudes got Munchausen syndrome….. or was sent over from mumsnet to stir shit.

[Jonestown]

Sounds like the Op has been watching Madame Claude on Netflix, the movie about the "legendary" Parisian Brothel keeper.

[Horseman]

Sure you can’t travel further.
How about a another planet?
Planet Retard!

Planet Retard rejected his visa application based on concerns that he'd lower the planets average IQ just too far.

[Jeffe]

CatBBW
As a WG imagine an unexperienced booked you for 2h, he arent sure if this escorting thing is right for him so he mainly wants to talk maybe do some some soft stuff maybe a massage. He would want to get to know you during a stroll maybe fondle a bit bossom on a bench when nobody sees.

Now how would you perceive such a dude and would you be open to let him to know you? And how do you think other escort would perceive him, would they be open with him about how they really feel about escorting or would it all be pretending?

And what do you think about doing something together instead meeting at a hotel or home. Maybe as simple as taking a stroll or maybe a swim or going out shopping to help the punter find some stylish clothes

2. Would it be deluded for a guy to want to establish a true honest friendship with a sugarbabe or an escort?

Most escorts will want a transactional relationship (I.e. they provide services for cash within agreed parameters), some will meet for dinner and perhaps even some of the scenarios you suggest but most would be wary. They don’t want you to be their boyfriend, just turn up hygienic, on time, be polite and have the correct cash and it’s all good. Beyond that could be interpreted as boundary pushing. Seeking or sugar babies might be more what you’re looking for...if you’re genuine

Can’t work out if you’re trying to show off or are just on the wind up (I suspect the latter)

[Alabastern]

You didn't answer the question. Are you a journalist.   

No dude I am not. Thanks for the compliment though, if even native english speaking thinks I am journalist my spelling mistakes can't be that bad.

[OakTree]

Who dont? you mean those exclusive models listed in UK(or EU) are fake and not exclusive?

Got it in one. It’s been mentioned many times on here how many high class (if that’s what you want to call them) exclusive escorts are on agency web sites for eye watering amounts of money and at the same time working in parlours and/or Adultwork for a fraction of the cost.

Like many on here I’ve been with a couple of porn stars (I’d rather call them performers) glamour models, girl next door and some might cruelly regard as mingers. What you soon find out is, wether it’s a thousand pound an hour (I’ve never paid anything like that by the way) pussy or a fifty quid pump and dump pussy, they pretty much feel exactly the same when you’re  inside them.

What will feel different is the walk back to the car after. There’s no worse than feeling finding out the expectation didn’t match up to the reality and you’ve now got a massive burning hole in your pocket.

[CatBBW]

CatBBW
As a WG imagine an unexperienced booked you for 2h, he arent sure if this escorting thing is right for him so he mainly wants to talk maybe do some some soft stuff maybe a massage. He would want to get to know you during a stroll maybe fondle a bit bossom on a bench when nobody sees.

I've seen many inexperienced guys like this, doesn't bother me, and a lot of guys don't want the full sex thing, for various reasons. But certainly NOT fondling me on a park bench. I'm not a teenager and the guy isn't my boyfriend.

Now how would you perceive such a dude and would you be open to let him to know you? And how do you think other escort would perceive him, would they be open with him about how they really feel about escorting or would it all be pretending?

Depends on the man. Depends on the escort.

And what do you think about doing something together instead meeting at a hotel or home. Maybe as simple as taking a stroll or maybe a swim or going out shopping to help the punter find some stylish clothes

Well, it's your money 

2. Would it be deluded for a guy to want to establish a true honest friendship with a sugarbabe or an escort?

Yes. You wouldn't believe how many guys think they're the SPECIAL one who wants to be an escort's best friend. Friendship develops naturally, from regular meeting and having things in common. I've had everything from requests for dates at a coffee shop to full blown marriage proposals, mainly from complete strangers messaging me for the first time. I don't want to meet any of them.