Not punting to my full potential due to racial preferences

[Rochelle]

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I started with center fold type blonds. Then a mate's Italian gf made a move so I ended up with a dark haired Italian, then an Iranian. I had a weekend with a black girl and went off sex for three months. I thought I might be a racist so tried a couple more but black Shae at Ventures in Long Eaton has permanently put me off. I found Indians to be appalling in the sack. I'm now into Thais, so much that when I recently heard the sound of a Line app notification I immediately got hard and orgasmed like a teenager.

My point is that it's not conscious prejudice, it's my cock that decides. Hence my link to Wicked Willie. I recall phoning a Mamasan to complain about a Thai B&S. I complained that Nicole was unattractive but Wicked Willie was already hard and she became a reg. Sexual attraction can't be forced easily. 

Well that's bollocks. Of course it's conscious. You literally said that after seeing three black women, you've been put off. It couldn't just be because those three particular women were shit. You've decided they were shit in bed because they were black.


Nothing wrong with having a sexual preference, but the reason you've given is most certainly racist.

[Rochelle]

For the life of me I cannot see how racism has any bearing on your sexual choice. It seems absurd. This is all a kind of racism in itself.

For years I was crazy about black/brown girls. Then, suddenly, they didn't really interest me. I was married to a Maori, and after her an Afro-American. I had a long affair with an Indian woman. I have a mixed race daughter, who's probably the closest person to me.

 Since I started punting 5 years ago I have had one threesome with a domme and a guy from Somalia and been with one Brazilian, but that's all.

We fuck who we like; escorts see who they like. And we like who we like: one of my best friends is a black music producer in LA.

The classic: I'm not racist. One of my best friends is black.

[cotton]

That's all wrong, you don't need to have black friends to  prove you're not racist, you don't need to be shagging a rainbow of different races to prove you're not racist either, it's perfectly acceptable to be straight and not homophobic just because you choose to shag women and not men.

I agree with you. Like i said ; The behaviour of expressing sexual preference for any particular color is racist in nature , but its ok to discriminate regarding sexual preference , aka its ok to be racist regarding sexual preference.
If your expressing a preference for freinds of a certain color that is also racist in nature   
You dont have to have a rainbow of freinds of different colors to prove you arnt racist but if you are expressing a preference for any particular color then that is racist in nature because you are discriminating based on racial / ethnicity. 

[hermanmunster]

Can't have it both ways, it's either racist to have a sexual preference of it isn't. If an escort states a sexual preference she's racist but if a punter does he isn't??   

I tend to disagree with you here.  An escort chooses a job where she services the sexual desires of men. She then states that she will not see eg black or Asian men because they are black or Asian.  But if a Premier League football club (eg Crystal Palace - chosen because they have a flourishing youth set up that seems to attract many black players from South London) states that they are not going to play black footballers, surely that is a similar (and racist) attitude?  On the other hand, if I have seen 2 white ladies and 2 Asian ladies and had enjoyable times with the white ladies but not so satisfying times with the Asian.  If I am unsure about the reason for the differences (wondering whether there is a reason that I am unaware of due to cultural differences) then would I be a racist for choosing a white lady rather than an Asian lady for my next meeting?  Would I be considered to be cautious or would I be a racist? If my personal preference is for white ladies rather than one of another race is it that dissimilar to preferring to buy a blue shirt rather than a green shirt.  Preference and prejudice are surely very different.

[king tarzan]

Well that's bollocks. Of course it's conscious. You literally said that after seeing three black women, you've been put off. It couldn't just be because those three particular women were shit. You've decided they were shit in bed because they were black.


Nothing wrong with having a sexual preference, but the reason you've given is most certainly racist.

The most beautiful woman I have ever seen was mixed race..
Was a cross between Alicia keys and Lisa maffia....
Words cannot describe how stunningly beautiful she was 

[Redpunter]

I am a white heterosexual male of advanced years and up until I took up this hobby several years ago had only ever sampled sex with ladies from a similar racial background.
Some of these encounters were fabulous some less than fulfilling.
Thanks to my hobby I have now had experience of a large variety of nationalities and ethnicity and see no difference in any of these groups in that some encounters are again fabulous and some disappointing or maybe turned out not as expected.
At my age I have learned to live life to the full and enjoy what you can when you can, any ladies who wish to let you have sex with them should be enjoyed and given the respect they deserve. The fact that you pay for it should not affect your ability to enjoy the experience and indeed at my age the variety of age from 20 to 70 and of every creed and colour is amazing.
To all of you I say enjoy it while you can and safe punting in these trying times. The one common thing I have observed is that whatever ethnic background these ladies belong to if you are able to sexually please them they will reciprocate in kind. The human body is indeed a magical thing of beauty.

[billybobsmith]

I must admit most women I've been with have been white.  Probably due to the fact that most options are white women, and having been brought up in predominately white areas, that's what I feel is expected of me to pursue.
That said, have seen an Asian woman from SA a few times.  Do like a bit of a change now and again, and the dark hair and darker areola can be rather sexy
When I'm in Hong Kong, or the Far East in general, do like the localish women.  Great figures usually and a lot of them aren't fully shaven down below and the pubic hair looks great against their frames.

Can't say I've been with a black woman though.  Possibly a paler skinned one at a parlour in the past (can't remember), but the darker skinned ones do nothing for me.  Not to say I wouldn't try one to tick something off my bucket list.

At the end of the day, I don't see anything racist in picking and choosing various attributes.  We all have our preferences, and some escorts may have had bad experiences in the past with particular demographics so its their choice to pick and choose.
There are times when I fancy a redhead, blonde, a specific nationality etc.  Most of us avoid Roms like the plague, most likely because of their reputations, and escorts could feel the same way about Asian men for example and how they treat women.

[tantraman]

I am a white heterosexual male of advanced years and up until I took up this hobby several years ago had only ever sampled sex with ladies from a similar racial background.
Some of these encounters were fabulous some less than fulfilling.
Thanks to my hobby I have now had experience of a large variety of nationalities and ethnicity and see no difference in any of these groups in that some encounters are again fabulous and some disappointing or maybe turned out not as expected.
At my age I have learned to live life to the full and enjoy what you can when you can, any ladies who wish to let you have sex with them should be enjoyed and given the respect they deserve. The fact that you pay for it should not affect your ability to enjoy the experience and indeed at my age the variety of age from 20 to 70 and of every creed and colour is amazing.
To all of you I say enjoy it while you can and safe punting in these trying times. The one common thing I have observed is that whatever ethnic background these ladies belong to if you are able to sexually please them they will reciprocate in kind. The human body is indeed a magical thing of beauty.

Sir, you are spot-on, and I follow your lead in trying to sample every type of sexperience  ... I see our 'hobby' akin to travelling, exploring, enjoying everything and everyone that life has to offer. And punting offers me opportunities to reach my 'full potential' ... I'm getting there.

[Redpunter]

Sir, you are spot-on, and I follow your lead in trying to sample every type of sexperience  ... I see our 'hobby' akin to travelling, exploring, enjoying everything and everyone that life has to offer. And punting offers me opportunities to reach my 'full potential' ... I'm getting there.

Thank you for your kind words I have to admit the ability of Asian ladies to find older men attractive as opposed to their western counterparts baffles me a little but I find them very high on my list.
Recently due to the fact that there was a shortage of anything else available I have been lucky enough to sample the delights of a Ghanaian and a Nigerian lady both of which welcomed me with open arms and broadened my horizon considerably. The world you oyster is a true saying as the late Bruce would have said “Keep on punting”
 

[Home Alone]

Yes, Redpunter; I, too, can identify with what you said. Apart, possibly from the upper end of the age range you have paid; allowing for the, erm, 'optimism' of some stated ages on AW, I haven't knowingly seen a SP in her 70s.

Other than that, I agree with every word.

[Thephoenix]

I am a white heterosexual male of advanced years and up until I took up this hobby several years ago had only ever sampled sex with ladies from a similar racial background.
Some of these encounters were fabulous some less than fulfilling.
Thanks to my hobby I have now had experience of a large variety of nationalities and ethnicity and see no difference in any of these groups in that some encounters are again fabulous and some disappointing or maybe turned out not as expected.
At my age I have learned to live life to the full and enjoy what you can when you can, any ladies who wish to let you have sex with them should be enjoyed and given the respect they deserve. The fact that you pay for it should not affect your ability to enjoy the experience and indeed at my age the variety of age from 20 to 70 and of every creed and colour is amazing.
To all of you I say enjoy it while you can and safe punting in these trying times. The one common thing I have observed is that whatever ethnic background these ladies belong to if you are able to sexually please them they will reciprocate in kind. The human body is indeed a magical thing of beauty.

I'm soon to turn 80, and very much agree with your comments.
Looking at both our pictures it's easy to see how women find us so attractive.

The older I've got, the more women of all ages I find attractive, including a few SP's in their seventies.

I remember Michael Caine being interviewed, and being asked how he felt about growing older.
His reply was....'Well it's better than the alternative isn't it?' 

Keep smiling!

[Redpunter]

I'm soon to turn 80, and very much agree with your comments.
Looking at both our pictures it's easy to see how women find us so attractive.

The older I've got, the more women of all ages I find attractive, including a few SP's in their seventies.

I remember Michael Caine being interviewed, and being asked how he felt about growing older.
His reply was....'Well it's better than the alternative isn't it?' 

Keep smiling!

Yes my friend the choice for us is better than a younger man as we are not afraid to try every age that’s available and amenable to having a fling, after all your next one might be your last.
I would also say the more experience a woman gets with age can be a great help to providing satisfaction for both parties. To HA I would say go and try all ages and every racial background because the clocks ticking but has to stop sometime.
Also God bless those who brought Viagra and Calais to the table.

[Colston36]

Definition of racist according from Oxford Languages:-

Adjective:- Prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalised.

Noun:- A person who is prejudiced or antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalised.

Personally I find some women of all races attractive (current favourite Oti Mabusi)
There's pretty and ugly in all races, and as I'm pretty ugly I'm not too choosy anyway.

I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  If a man finds white women more attractive than other races, does that really make him racist?

As I'm an ol' codger, I find women of all ages attractive, but given the choice I'd prefer to shag someone under 70........Is that ageism?

Very helpful. That definition settles the argument. The fact you don't want to have sex with someone doesn't mean you are antagonistic (i.e. feel enmity towards them ) or prejudiced (i.e. you prejudge them) it means you don't want to have sex with them.

[Jonestown]

The OP has posted 13 reviews of which only four are positive, so I would hazard a guess that the reason he is not reaching his full punting potential is more likely to be down to a fundamental flaw in his SP selection process rather than to any racist inclinations, real or imagined, he may or may not have.

[king tarzan]

The OP has posted 13 reviews of which only four are positive, so I would hazard a guess that the reason he is not reaching his full punting potential is more likely to be down to a fundamental flaw in his SP selection process rather than to any racist inclinations, real or imagined, he may or may not have.

Or it could be himself... So the blame don't need to be expanded 👍👍

[dubhcarr]

interesting OP in time your tastes may change. Where you start is not always where you finish. I look at punting like buying a meal its a question of what you fancy at the moment. Different nationalities bring different characteristics and experiences. I am on leg 32 of my round the world trip so at least another 100 stops to make. Good luck and I hope you see through broader spectacles (so to speak).   

[Global_Punter]

Can't have it both ways, it's either racist to have a sexual preference of it isn't. If an escort states a sexual preference she's racist but if a punter does he isn't??   

I'd suggest you don't poke the bear, your deliberately baiting folks to oppose your argument.

[daviemac]

I'd suggest you don't poke the bear, your deliberately baiting folks to oppose your argument.

Not baiting anybody just stating fact, people have said that for an escort refuses to see a particular race she's a racist but if a punter says he doesn't want to see a particular race that's OK.

In any case that was posted on 6th November, it was reply #5 on the first page, we are now on to reply #66 on page 2, a week later, all that needed to be said about that point has been said, yet here you are raising it again. I would suggest if anyone is 'poking the bear' as you put it it is you. 

[Mr Doodle]

Well that's bollocks. Of course it's conscious. You literally said that after seeing three black women, you've been put off. It couldn't just be because those three particular women were shit. You've decided they were shit in bed because they were black.


Nothing wrong with having a sexual preference, but the reason you've given is most certainly racist.

I have to be honest, Rochelle, normally, I find your posts on this forum quite erudite. But, in this case, not..

I have to admit, in general (stress that phrase), I don't find black or oriental women sexually attractive. With black girls, I love the colour of their skin.. And when they have a hot body (which for me is not thin and petite), they arouse me. And when I see the pink of their midrift on their black skin, well, there is nothing better. But for me, sexual attraction is more than that.. it is also their facial feaures and their demeanour. And, unfortunately, on both accounts, they generally don't float my boat. If I am having a punt with a SP who doesn't float my boat, it really isn't going to happen and it is a shit punt. No fault on her part... but not doing it for me. And for orientals, it is pretty well much the same as black women. I'm not going to go into what stereotypical features turn me off.. but they are are almost ubiquitous amongst both black and oriental women.

I am not racist.. I have had punts (before finding out about this fine site) where I found white and Indian (usually my favourite) SPs similarly unattractive, and in those cases, where they went all out to satisfy me (so I would have given a positive review), but to me, it was a shit punt. Similarly, I had a wonderful punt with a black lady back in 2006.. but she floated my boat because I found her totally attractive.

There's nothing racist about it.. Unfortunately what I find unattractive about women is often a feature of them. The poster you responded to (@RogerBoner) should be congratulated because at least he challenged himself another two times... I generally won't punt black or oriental SPs, or really any SP, unless I can see their face beforehand. And I respect an SP who says they won't see men of different types... Nothing wrong with it at all (as long as they are happy to see me!  )

[Rochelle]

I have to be honest, Rochelle, normally, I find your posts on this forum quite erudite. But, in this case, not..

I have to admit, in general (stress that phrase), I don't find black or oriental women sexually attractive. With black girls, I love the colour of their skin.. And when they have a hot body (which for me is not thin and petite), they arouse me. And when I see the pink of their midrift on their black skin, well, there is nothing better. But for me, sexual attraction is more than that.. it is also their facial feaures and their demeanour. And, unfortunately, on both accounts, they generally don't float my boat. If I am having a punt with a SP who doesn't float my boat, it really isn't going to happen and it is a shit punt. No fault on her part... but not doing it for me. And for orientals, it is pretty well much the same as black women. I'm not going to go into what stereotypical features turn me off.. but they are are almost ubiquitous amongst both black and oriental women.

I am not racist.. I have had punts (before finding out about this fine site) where I found white and Indian (usually my favourite) SPs similarly unattractive, and in those cases, where they went all out to satisfy me (so I would have given a positive review), but to me, it was a shit punt. Similarly, I had a wonderful punt with a black lady back in 2006.. but she floated my boat because I found her totally attractive.

There's nothing racist about it.. Unfortunately what I find unattractive about women is often a feature of them. The poster you responded to (@RogerBoner) should be congratulated because at least he challenged himself another two times... I generally won't punt black or oriental SPs, or really any SP, unless I can see their face beforehand. And I respect an SP who says they won't see men of different types... Nothing wrong with it at all (as long as they are happy to see me!  )

In general, I don't find black guys attractive. I'm not saying that they pretty much all look and act the same though.


Interesting article on the subject, by the way. Have a read.
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[Mr Doodle]

I didn't say they all look the same (though the article was interesting).. There are similar facial features, just like there are similar facial features amongst oriental, sub-continental, and other races - dare I say there are common facial features of white people of different origins, too. That reminds me, for some reason, Slovakian women also generally have the same feature.. or at least a good proprotion of them do (I worked in Slovakia for a while, about 20 years ago) that turn me off black and oriental women - in general (and that was a bare couple of years).

Re the demeanour, maybe I lucked out, but I wasn't referring to individualised personality traits - maybe cultural traits would have been better put..

[Home Alone]

To HA I would say go and try all ages and every racial background because the clocks ticking but has to stop sometime.

Oh, indeed, Redpunter; apart from a 70+ year-old SP, I've had a much more extensive range of ages and nationalities than I naïvely imagined would be available that December afternoon 16 years ago when I nervously rang a Parlour's doorbell for the first time. I've still one or two items on the bucket list I've been compiling for the last 15 or so years, though.

Also God bless those who brought Viagra and Calais to the table.

"I wish to associate myself with the previous speaker and commend his remarks to the House!"

[notcalledchris]

This in relation to black men, I think it goes deeper than "it's just my preference" and back further over many years with relevance to the origins of the william lynch speech and his methods to control black slaves through colorism which contributed towards black men not going with black women of a darker colour or black women not necessarily going with darker skinned men even till this day in some cases. It still happens to till this day ( Some black men going for white women mainly or only light skinned black girls or mixed race) and if if you look closely enough it's still everywhere. One time I was in my barbers and a guy came through with a white girlfriend and for some reason some of the guys almost hailed him up like oh you've got "snow white" yh? It still happens. I remember when I was in sixth form and I was friends with a black guy that hated black girls, I asked him why and there was no real reason, he hated everything about them. Come now he would rather deal with an unattractive girl of a different race than an attractive black girl, shit was crazy.

When I was in school no one liked dark skinned black guys, it was all about mixed race and light skinned black guys. Black girls used to constantly get onto dark skin black guys the most, how do I know? Because I am a dark skin black guy lol. Now all of a sudden thanks to black men becoming a fetish it's all BBC this BBC that. I've come across white girls that want black guys just to get a mixed race kid  . I think people underestimate how the environment they are in can influence what they think is their free will in choosing their "preferences" and "paths" for themselves.

Also, some black men in the past have seen attractive white women as a status symbol of "making it/getting the trophy wife" and becoming "acceptable" to a particular group of people in a sense that they are really making "progress" in society; even my own father was a victim of that shit lol but I have digressed off topic so I will stop.

Interesting stuff thanks.

There is also the fact that in general black women tend to be slightly lighter skinned than black men of identical genetic ancestry.  It has been suggested that this evolved because child-bearing imposes a greater requirement for vitamin D in women.  This is the opposite of what is seen in some very white populations like Polish and Irish where the women tend to be slightly darker skinned than the men who can be very pasty white.

On the broader question of sexual preferences, my take is that a preference is fine but I'd advise fellow punters against being too dogmatic and ruling out any particular race.  Surely the whole point of punts is the ability to access a variety of clunge and a bit of racial variety in the mix is a good thing even if you have a general preference.

[bushman]

Interesting stuff thanks.

On the broader question of sexual preferences, my take is that a preference is fine but I'd advise fellow punters against being too dogmatic and ruling out any particular race.  Surely the whole point of punts is the ability to access a variety of clunge and a bit of racial variety in the mix is a good thing even if you have a general preference.

This is a summary of how I punt. Although my racial variety tends to be on the lighter scale of the spectrum.

[Southendlothario]

Perhaps in some instances, its simply a case of opposites attract.
I am White British, born and bred Essex boy. I find women of all colours sexually attractive, although blondes not as much as others. But have always, since a kid had such a strong attraction towards black women. Especially black women with curvy bodies. Dont know when it started, but the idea of having a black woman's body to explore seriously turns me on.
Havent ever been in the position with a black woman to ask her out for dinner or a drink though tbh. Let alone things progress to a physical relationship lol.
Smooth dark soft skin, Big dark nipples, trimmed hairy pussy with nice big labia, smooth soft cheeks and soft kissable lips, and jet black hair.... the thought is giving me a rod-on now lol