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Offline datwabbit

Also people on here who aren't on the private thread should also share warnings about online and escorts. I cannot find any warnings on the public threads.

Offline DeanoDeano

There is already a more open thread on SA

I can't see why the new Admin would cull something that isn't broke. The thread as it is , works for those on it.  :hi: :hi: :hi:

All of the above  :thumbsup:

Please don’t change something that works for everyone already.

Offline stampjones

All of the above  :thumbsup:

Please don’t change something that works for everyone already.
Not too bothered either way tbh but it clearly doesnt work for everyone. Just those on the thread. Would be nice to have access again though

Offline tynetunnel

Oldadmin restricted access to the dedicated SA thread to those who could prove (at the time of requesting admittance) that they had an active SA account. It was an important criteria and stopped the thread being flooded with non SA members, keeping it a relevant place for members to discuss their experiences and give advice, warnings etc.

It still fulfills this function admirably today, even though it is not open to new SA members. I’d hope that any admittance of further members would similarly be restricted to those who can prove membership of an active SA subscription.

There’s scope for any number of open SA threads, which I’m sure I and the other members of the restricted forum will happily participate in, as we already do. By its very nature of being open, it will attract those who are members of SA along with those who are not, and could be invaluable for anyone considering joining SA.

Offline datwabbit

Oldadmin restricted access to the dedicated SA thread to those who could prove (at the time of requesting admittance) that they had an active SA account. It was an important criteria and stopped the thread being flooded with non SA members, keeping it a relevant place for members to discuss their experiences and give advice, warnings etc.

It still fulfills this function admirably today, even though it is not open to new SA members. I’d hope that any admittance of further members would similarly be restricted to those who can prove membership of an active SA subscription.

There’s scope for any number of open SA threads, which I’m sure I and the other members of the restricted forum will happily participate in, as we already do. By its very nature of being open, it will attract those who are members of SA along with those who are not, and could be invaluable for anyone considering joining SA.

Yes. Don't want it becoming just questions on whether to subscribe or not.

Offline Tafftoy

Yes. Don't want it becoming just questions on whether to subscribe or not.
Definitely it works well as it is  :thumbsup:

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Admin got fed up with all the work checking out people, he had set up a fake female account and crossed checked to see they had access.

I am sure there would be volunteers to take over this task, if there was a need to open it up to only members of SA.

But totally agree scammers should be posted on regional SA boards.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2019, 12:16:37 pm by Kev40ish »

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Also people on here who aren't on the private thread should also share warnings about online and escorts. I cannot find any warnings on the public threads.

I don’t think it’s right to post people who are only looking for online, as there are genuine girls who are offering this service.
It’s the same with Escorts, are they not allowed to be on SA as well.

Scammers are the only warnings that should be posted in an open forum.

Offline tynetunnel

Admin got fed up with all the work checking out people, he had set up a fake female account and crossed checked to see they had access.

I am sure there would be volunteers to take over this task, if there was a need to open it up to only members of SA.

But totally agree scammers should be posted on regional SA boards.

It’s a task i’d happily take on  :hi:

Offline datwabbit

I don’t think it’s right to post people who are only looking for online, as there are genuine girls who are offering this service.
It’s the same with Escorts, are they not allowed to be on SA as well.

Scammers are the only warnings that should be posted in an open forum.

Good points. There's no reason why a guy won't want that. I stand corrected.

Offline hungrypunt

The danger on an open forum is having bell ends posting details of student girls on an open thread who may have disagreed with them or not took up the offer of "£20 for a bj in nandos bogs love"
and got pissed off. Thus making more time for mods, deleting posts, dishing out warnings etc.
List out scammers hell yes, but we all cant be trusted to be responsible and do just that, and these girls dont see them selves as sex workers (yes there is an argument there as I put when doing the SA wiki a while back) but some just simply are not, no matter what we think.

Theres is a lot of self back slapping and bravado on the thread, and some great tales of young girls (and families) being helped out of big holes and on to success by SDs, myself included, but I stopped posting much of my details on that thread a long time ago when we had a white knight mole or 2 who the old admin helped us root out by using our SA accounts (or mine at least). Guys telling girls shit, and passing off wrong info got more and more, but Admin seemed to sort it..

As it is now is ideal from my POV, but the next best thing is kill it, dont open it up, and if you get sick of modding it or whatever , lots of guys on the thread seem level headed and experienced.

« Last Edit: June 30, 2019, 11:31:07 pm by hungrypunt »

Offline Lesdoit

I don’t think it’s right to post people who are only looking for online, as there are genuine girls who are offering this service.
It’s the same with Escorts, are they not allowed to be on SA as well.

Scammers are the only warnings that should be posted in an open forum.

No it's not allowed on SA. There is a report function for online only members. They are an absolute pain in the ass. You spend hours doing the ping pong messaging your about to seal the deal then you get hit with a million excuses not to meet then "why don't you buy my pictures" crap.

Offline hungrypunt

No it's not allowed on SA. There is a report function for online only members. They are an absolute pain in the ass. You spend hours doing the ping pong messaging your about to seal the deal then you get hit with a million excuses not to meet then "why don't you buy my pictures" crap.

Wrong, online only is allowed on SA as an arrangement and there is no such feature to report online only.
This is the type of shite you spout that is the reason why it needs careful thought as to an open forum.
External Link/Members Only
« Last Edit: July 01, 2019, 01:01:15 pm by hungrypunt »

Offline tynetunnel

Wrong, online only is allowed on SA as an arrangement and there is no such feature to report online only.
This is the type of shite you spout that is the reason why it needs careful thought as to an open forum.
External Link/Members Only

There is a report option for “seeking online-only relationship” within “Inappropriate conduct”  :hi:



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Offline Brumish

It’s a fucking contradictory site (amongst all the shitty classification on escorting)...there is a tab for ‘online only’ seeking and there is also a tab for reporting under inappropriate profile for being online only.  :unknown:

Offline hungrypunt

There is a report option for “seeking online-only relationship” within “Inappropriate conduct”  :hi:



Hidden Image/Members Only
:drinks: TT
Dunno how long that has been there, i used to look to report them and could never find it under any tab, . Then when the new "seeking " system "tags" came in "online only" was on there, so I thought fair enough if some guys want it, PVT cams n shit.

Offline datwabbit

It’s a fucking contradictory site (amongst all the shitty classification on escorting)...there is a tab for ‘online only’ seeking and there is also a tab for reporting under inappropriate profile for being online only.  :unknown:

I asked them about that and the lengthy conversation we had went like
1. SD's can get banned for asking for online only because we want to encourage face to face
2. SB's the same
3. We have a category for online only because people might want that.

They had the cheek to finish with "if we can be of further help, please get in touch"

Look mate, you've been fuck all help so far.

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Offline Lesdoit

Wrong, online only is allowed on SA as an arrangement and there is no such feature to report online only.
This is the type of shite you spout that is the reason why it needs careful thought as to an open forum.
External Link/Members Only

Who's spouting shit. Obviously you. I've reported dozens in the last year. Take a screen shot ommiting anything incriminating on my part and upload it in the evidence box. You don't know if they get banned though as it automatically blocks them from your view.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2019, 08:21:08 pm by Lesdoit »

Offline hungrypunt

Who's spouting shit. Obviously you. I've reported dozens in the last year. Take a screen shot ommiting anything incriminating on my part and upload it in the evidence box. You don't know if they get banned though as it automatically blocks them from your view.

Good for you Les, :thumbsup: like I said, giving out wrong information causes grief and hassle.(spouting shit)
As it happens you was wrong and in my wisdom so am I as they now do have a report button but the "seeking online only " button has been there for yonks.
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You don't know if they get banned though as it automatically blocks them from your view.
this has only changed to this probably in the past year.

Keep your online only knickers on luv.
And you can know if they get banned if you want. So at the extreme risk of pissing you off again, Wrong !  :kiss:
« Last Edit: July 01, 2019, 09:23:52 pm by hungrypunt »

Offline Brumish

The site is a mind fuck  :hi:

At least we can all safely say, we get some sort of fuck out of the site  :D  :drinks:

As for ‘spouting shit’, a site like SA will make a fool of anyone. The site has changed so much (and not only in one direction) that it’s a head fuck if you happen to sign up one week to the next.
If I remember correctly, they were the fuckers who actually came up with PPM (of sort), they actively encouraged escorting. Brandon might think he’s a saviour but any sane person knows he’s playing on the oldest profession in the world and giving it some of his mother’s TLC (whom he refers to as his inspiration behind the whole seeking arrangement concept)  :hi:
« Last Edit: July 01, 2019, 09:34:19 pm by Brumish »

Offline Lesdoit

Good for you Les, :thumbsup: like I said, giving out wrong information causes grief and hassle.(spouting shit)
As it happens you was wrong and in my wisdom so am I as they now do have a report button but the "seeking online only " button has been there for yonks.this has only changed to this probably in the past year.

Keep your online only knickers on luv.
And you can know if they get banned if you want. So at the extreme risk of pissing you off again, Wrong !  :kiss:
Are you as full of your own self importance in real life as you are on here?  You actually use female logic. You were proven wrong by another member but in your ego filled mind im spouting shit because there didn't used to be an option but there is now. Perhaps you should engage brain before mouth sweetie pie.

Offline hungrypunt

Are you as full of your own self importance in real life as you are on here? 
Quite possibly :) when confronted by some types, dunno
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You actually use female logic.
And you'd know all about that would you,?  like you know all about the other stuff you've posted.
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You were proven wrong by another member but in your ego filled mind im spouting shit because there didn't used to be an option but there is now. Perhaps you should engage brain before mouth sweetie pie.
I admitted that, but thanks for pointing it out, Im sure Ill stand corrected many more times in my life, but I wont get the hump :)
Enjoy the site , look forward to your reviews of , what do you call them LOW LIFE SKANKs, ?

I do try not to judge, but sometimes its hard.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2019, 04:59:45 pm by hungrypunt »

Offline Lesdoit

Only thing hard here is you stroking your cock thinking you are winning. Despite being wrong.
Im not one for point scoring though.
You do your thing I'll do mine. But don't attack my post and not expect a return
« Last Edit: July 02, 2019, 05:56:18 pm by Lesdoit »

Offline hungrypunt

Only thing hard here is you stroking your cock thinking you are winning. Despite being wrong.
Im not one for point scoring though.
You do your thing I'll do mine. But don't attack my post and not expect a return
It was the "spouting shite that done it wasnt it"

:) sorry didnt mean to turn you into a keyboard warrior. Ive reeled you in mate now time to let you go.

"Ignored"


Look forward to a review from you. Not many get an easy ride first off here, youll learn that.

Offline Mr_Shins

Someone needs to start a rival SA-style site with rules the way we want them to be.

Certainly we would not ban anyone for arranging PPMs

Offline TPreston

Someone needs to start a rival SA-style site with rules the way we want them to be.

Certainly we would not ban anyone for arranging PPMs

we discussed it on the main thread a few times. With craiglist ripping adverts down theres certainly a middle ground for it. Would be a serious investment and getting yourself the traffic and userbase would be a tough step.

I've got the phone numbers of 1000s of SBs is anyone wants to use me for intial marketing phases for a shareholding (pretty sure this is against the law mind ha)

Offline itk

Will access now be granted to members who have membership to SA now ownership has changed hands?  I only renew SA membership once every 3 or 4 months and since the new year I’ve had no access to the thread on here, which I found invaluable at times.

Offline datwabbit

Will access now be granted to members who have membership to SA now ownership has changed hands?  I only renew SA membership once every 3 or 4 months and since the new year I’ve had no access to the thread on here, which I found invaluable at times.

You're not the first to ask.

I'd suggest sending new admin team a message. As you're a paying member there'll be a way to verify that. The worst outcome is no change.

Offline 90125

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Will access now be granted to members who have membership to SA now ownership has changed hands?  I only renew SA membership once every 3 or 4 months and since the new year I’ve had no access to the thread on here, which I found invaluable at times.
There are no current plans to give further access to the SA thread.

Offline chleo2006

Hi guys.  Im pretty new on seeking.com.  Ive had loads of messages and requests for arrangements so far.  I have a question.  If say i agree wo meet a girl on a pay per meet arranegment,  when should i pay her ?  in advance or during the meeting?  some ask for money up fromt but this can be a scam right ?  anyone share any advise tips on paying.  Thanks

Offline houseboot

Pay per meet is against the Seeking.com rules  :thumbsdown:

You'll get banned  :bomb:

It must be true because their CEO said so when he was interviewed on TV  :hi:

Offline tynetunnel

Whatever you do, NEVER pay upfront. Ideally at the end of the meeting. If you must, leave the payment somewhere in the room where it is visible. Never leave her alone with the money while you go to the bathroom, you may hear the door slam while you’re having your piss!

On SA itself, never discuss money or use the term “ppm” (pay per meet) as you’ll likely get banned. Move the conversation to WhatsApp to have these discussions, and if necessary tell her it’s as you or she could get banned for discussing details.

Offline AnotherTime

There are no current plans to give further access to the SA thread.

I was a frequent contributor to the old SA thread and, after having worked abroad and just got back to the UK, I don’t have an issue with being unable to participate in the thread. It was a useful tool and I enjoyed the sharing of information, and help fellow users. I’ll stick to the local area thread and, hopefully, ensure that standards are maintained  :thumbsup:

Offline chleo2006

Whatever you do, NEVER pay upfront. Ideally at the end of the meeting. If you must, leave the payment somewhere in the room where it is visible. Never leave her alone with the money while you go to the bathroom, you may hear the door slam while you’re having your piss!

On SA itself, never discuss money or use the term “ppm” (pay per meet) as you’ll likely get banned. Move the conversation to WhatsApp to have these discussions, and if necessary tell her it’s as you or she could get banned for discussing details.

Thanks for the advice

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Plenty!  :hi:
What angle do they approach this at? Are they trying to convince us that they aren't actual escorts? Or are they looking for something more regular?

Offline tynetunnel

What angle do they approach this at? Are they trying to convince us that they aren't actual escorts? Or are they looking for something more regular?

The ones I’ve seen on AW then clock on SA, I don’t know, I don’t engage with them. The others, you can get a prossie vibe from profiles or through chatting. It’s normally ‘per hour’ for meets, and often they use terms which are escorting related.

Offline bushman

The ones I’ve seen on AW then clock on SA, I don’t know, I don’t engage with them. The others, you can get a Sex Worker vibe from profiles or through chatting. It’s normally ‘per hour’ for meets, and often they use terms which are escorting related.
Using it as an alternative advertising platform then. So no change to meeting etiquette then, nothing is free with an escort.

Offline 90125

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How many WG's use SA?

The question should probably be rephrased to how many SB's are not WG's  ;)




Offline nightbot

Sorry for the bump guys but thought this would be the place to ask without making a new thread and I hope this isn't against the rules as some people have asked questions in this thread and it seemed to be ok. (Also before anyone tells me I have no reviews and/or refuses to help me because of that, please click on my profile you'll see that I have had reviews, it just doesn't show up because of site bugs).

Anyways I've recently started using this and the whole place seems like a mindfuck with minefield to navigate around. But I've managed to get number from two girls, agreed on a price with both of them that they expect on the first meet itself, and I am in the process of arranging meets with them. I just have two questions and from reading online it seems it might not be the best idea to straight up ask the girls about this. Anyhow my questions are:

1) Is sex on first meet the norm and something expected or am I paying 250-300 quid on a meet just to chat and pay for food and build "trust and respect"? Because the punting wiki has a section that says lots of girls like first meets to be platonic. And I guess if she does end up having sex then there's no time limit and a meet can very well end up as overnighter even if not initially agreed as is it just comes down to how the chemistry between you and the girl develops. Is that correct?

2) One of these girls asked me if I'm after something regular or a one off, since she does one offs I'm assuming she's up for sex but then her profile has "Platonic relationship" mentioned...do I need to bail?

Ok those were really 2.5 questions but I'd really appreciate it if someone can answer those to me, as I wouldn't want to waste money and have nightmares about it lol.

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Sorry for the bump guys but thought this would be the place to ask without making a new thread and I hope this isn't against the rules as some people have asked questions in this thread and it seemed to be ok. (Also before anyone tells me I have no reviews and/or refuses to help me because of that, please click on my profile you'll see that I have had reviews, it just doesn't show up because of site bugs).

Anyways I've recently started using this and the whole place seems like a mindfuck with minefield to navigate around. But I've managed to get number from two girls, agreed on a price with both of them that they expect on the first meet itself, and I am in the process of arranging meets with them. I just have two questions and from reading online it seems it might not be the best idea to straight up ask the girls about this. Anyhow my questions are:

1) Is sex on first meet the norm and something expected or am I paying 250-300 quid on a meet just to chat and pay for food and build "trust and respect"? Because the punting wiki has a section that says lots of girls like first meets to be platonic. And I guess if she does end up having sex then there's no time limit and a meet can very well end up as overnighter even if not initially agreed as is it just comes down to how the chemistry between you and the girl develops. Is that correct?

2) One of these girls asked me if I'm after something regular or a one off, since she does one offs I'm assuming she's up for sex but then her profile has "Platonic relationship" mentioned...do I need to bail?

Ok those were really 2.5 questions but I'd really appreciate it if someone can answer those to me, as I wouldn't want to waste money and have nightmares about it lol.

Confirm specifically that you will meet for the introduction at no fee, if she agrees to proceed to an intimate encounter in your room then that's when the fee will be paid.  Where possible I get them to agree to payment after, once they've seen the cash.  If the sex is shit (and you can agree this with her) i.e. you don't click then agree an early termination partial fee.
Flirting during the social element and banter about sex should establish what services you will get.
Make it clear you want an NSA arrangement, start with a pay per date until you both agree than something more regular might be worth coming to a maintenance agreement about.

Offline nightbot

Confirm specifically that you will meet for the introduction at no fee, if she agrees to proceed to an intimate encounter in your room then that's when the fee will be paid.  Where possible I get them to agree to payment after, once they've seen the cash.  If the sex is shit (and you can agree this with her) i.e. you don't click then agree an early termination partial fee.
Flirting during the social element and banter about sex should establish what services you will get.
Make it clear you want an NSA arrangement, start with a pay per date until you both agree than something more regular might be worth coming to a maintenance agreement about.
Thanks for the info.
Well one of the girls is here only temporarily for 2 months as she's visiting from Canada so she isn't looking long term. I told her that I want a NSA thing with PPM and she said she is looking for the same. Afterwards I asked if she'd liked to discuss an arrangement beforehand or do a platonic meet first to which she said we can discuss it now itself. What I haven't confirmed is if the first meet is a platonic introduction or not, so I think I'll do that now.

Offline hungrypunt

Probably aswell directing any questions here, although the thread started as discussion between AW and SA its somewhat changed now to a q and a about SA
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=244630.0;topicseen

Offline Tomi91

Used word ppm on SA got banned after 3 days. Money lost no refund...

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Used word ppm on SA got banned after 3 days. Money lost no refund...

Sorry to hear that, harsh lesson learnt, sadly girls can mention ppm without being banned, guys can't  :dash: :dash: :dash:

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Online LLPunting

Just checked back here for an update on open discussion of Seeking (and WYP and the like) and I think Admin needs to seriously reconsider allowing open discussion of SA and other profiles with the exception of proven WGs (ie active escort profiles elsewhere).
Too much risk of blowback if some twat revenge posts here on a non-SP and the affected lady finds out.  It may not be revenge p@rn but we might get the same attention.

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Just checked back here for an update on open discussion of Seeking (and WYP and the like) and I think Admin needs to seriously reconsider allowing open discussion of SA and other profiles with the exception of proven WGs (ie active escort profiles elsewhere).
Too much risk of blowback if some twat revenge posts here on a non-SP and the affected lady finds out.  It may not be revenge p@rn but we might get the same attention.

Are there any examples of SA profiles being posted in THIS thread?

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Are there any examples of SA profiles being posted in THIS thread?

That's not what I was saying.  The comments by Admin earlier in the thread appear to permit open, public threads about women on Seeking (and presumably on other platforms of a similar nature).  There's no strictures just a vague "don't be an ass about it" shrug.
It may well be that the established SA community are keeping things within their walled garden but there are posters here who aren't part of that club but may well check out such platforms and feel they have cause to post about their experience/frustration "indiscretely".