Don't kill cash - the campaign by GB News

[lostandfound]

Technology that eliminates the need to carry cash if you don't wish to, and which creates more jobs than it removes - as tech has done since the beginning of the industrial revolution - and will revolutionise education to the overwhelming benefit of pupils and teachers is to be welcomed.

[badsin]

Do you want a receipt held electronically stating "personal services from anal Anny £150" ?
I don't.

[lostandfound]

Do you want a receipt held electronically stating "personal services from anal Anny £150" ?
I don't.

Sounds like you would wish to carry cash. Not having to carry it if you don't wish to does not of itself mean that noone can use it if they don't wish to.

Besides, humans have always found a way to trade anonymously if they want to, just as they have always found a way to buy sex if they want to. IMO that will continue in a "digital world" - ingenuity will always find a way.

[lostandfound]

Sounds like you would wish to carry cash. Not having to carry it if you don't wish to does not of itself mean that noone can use it if they do wish to.

Besides, humans have always found a way to trade anonymously if they want to, just as they have always found a way to buy sex if they want to. IMO that will continue in a "digital world" - ingenuity will always find a way.

Apols for typing that the wrong way around. (Was reading email at same time).

[puntingking]

Do you want a receipt held electronically stating "personal services from anal Anny £150" ?
I don't.

 +1000000

[puntingking]

Sounds like you would wish to carry cash. Not having to carry it if you don't wish to does not of itself mean that noone can use it if they don't wish to.

Besides, humans have always found a way to trade anonymously if they want to, just as they have always found a way to buy sex if they want to. IMO that will continue in a "digital world" - ingenuity will always find a way.

For me more importantly than anything else is the privacy thing.

I would much rather be mugged of the cash I have in my pocket than to live all the days of my life with no privacy. I,e couples will know what eachother is spending, government will know what you are spending, etc.

This is a road that could lead to total enslavement.  Ironically it would be ourselves who would enslaved ourselves as so many people agree that cash should stay but they themselves never use cash.




Edit - also if you get mugged with the cash that you have in your pocket, it would only be the money you have in your pocket however if someone have access to your bank details then they would be able to clear you out.

[PilotMan]

Perhaps over 60's should be given free laptops, Internet connection and computer lessons to keep up with the times so they can cope 

Nearly a quarter of the UK population are over 60, that's almost 16 million people.

Who's going to fund that?

Does anyone actually think through what they're saying 

[PilotMan]

For me more importantly than anything else is the privacy thing.

If you get paid all of your income in to your bank account, what privacy do you think you really have?

Who do you think wants to really know where you spend your money, please do tell.

Other than your missus, nobody gives a fuck where you spend your money, you're insignificant.

[mr.bluesky]

Nearly a quarter of the UK population are over 60, that's almost 16 million people.

Who's going to fund that?

Does anyone actually think through what they're saying 

I said that with tongue in cheek just to highlight the fact that a lot of old people do not have access to the Internet and yet are expected to buy rail tickets or do numerous other things online so according to some people they must all be dinasaurs for not keeping up with the times 

[PilotMan]

This is a road that could lead to total enslavement. 

I suppose the apocalypse is coming as well is it?

You chat a lot of shit, and are unable to answer some basic questions when challenged.

[PilotMan]

Technology that eliminates the need to carry cash if you don't wish to, and which creates more jobs than it removes - as tech has done since the beginning of the industrial revolution - and will revolutionise education to the overwhelming benefit of pupils and teachers is to be welcomed.

Exactly, the industrial revolution got rid of thousands of farming jobs, but it led to cheaper and more readily available food for everyone. New jobs were created in different industries and people learnt new skills to use in those jobs.

Imagine if we banned agricultural machines on the basis that it was replacing physical labourers. The country would still be in the dark ages, there wouldn't be enough food produced to feed the population for starters.

Unfortunately when technological advances are made  there will be fallout, but society as a whole benefits more.

[mr.bluesky]

I would love to know where this " cheaper food " is today 

[PilotMan]

I would love to know where this " cheaper food " is today 

You need to go back to school and pay attention.

Food as a percentage of income is considerably lower now than pre industrial revolution and continues to go down over time. Whilst there may be blips in the trend,  the trend is downwards nonetheless.

[PepeMAGA]

Off course you have to move with the times but not everybody gets the same opportunities in life. * Your reply is one I would expect from a Conservative mp. I just hope your not in a job that gets replaced by "technology "
Perhaps over 60's should be given free laptops, Internet connection and computer lessons to keep up with the times so they can cope 
* I think it's called the "sod you jack I'm allright" syndrome

How about doing it by natural wastage, ie, when the person leaves the job, you don't replace them

[mr.bluesky]

You need to go back to school and pay attention.

Food as a percentage of income is considerably lower now than pre industrial revolution and continues to go down over time. Whilst there may be blips in the trend,  the trend is downwards nonetheless.

Strangely enough Commerce was one subject at school I excelled in but then again that was a long time ago . I will take comfort in the fact that next time I am paying more for my food it is still on a downward trend   

[PilotMan]

How about doing it by natural wastage, ie, when the person leaves the job, you don't replace them

That often happens, or people are employed within the same industry, but doing a different job.

The writing is usually on the wall, but many people don't pay attention to what's going on around them, and wake up one day wondering what the fuck happened.

A simple example.

If you're employed to read utility meters, it's been pretty obvious for a long time that this job and the number of people needed is going down, due to technology.

This type of change is happening constantly, don't bury your head in the sand.

[puntingking]

If you get paid all of your income in to your bank account, what privacy do you think you really have?

Who do you think wants to really know where you spend your money, please do tell.

Other than your missus, nobody gives a fuck where you spend your money, you're insignificant.

big corporations do as they will use your banking data to sell you things that you either will regret paying for or have not got the money for.

Have you ever been thinking about a product you want then moments later it appears in an advert on facebook?

the difference is though facebook you can quit but digital currency there is no opt out option once it is here and the old cash has gone.

[puntingking]

If you get paid all of your income in to your bank account, what privacy do you think you really have?

Who do you think wants to really know where you spend your money, please do tell.

Other than your missus, nobody gives a fuck where you spend your money, you're insignificant.

we will all become walking barcodes for big business to flog us with things that we don't really want but end up purchasing.

They will then sell your data to other businesses to sell us more things.


if you ever thought christmas was too commercialised, well we will now become the product for businesses to barter with over our data.

[puntingking]

arr the old saying used to be "money talks".

The updated version will be "data talks".

[JontyR]

I will take comfort in the fact that next time I am paying more for my food it is still on a downward trend   

Well I find it amazing that I can buy a pineapple that has come from Costa Rica or somewhere for about the same cost as sending a postcard to someone a couple of miles away.

[PilotMan]

we will all become walking barcodes for big business to flog us with things that we don't really want but end up purchasing.

Big business can't be blamed for your own stupidity.

This confirms my point about people taking responsibility for their decisions, but failing to, and then wanting to blame everyone else.

Oh, it wasn't my fault, big data followed me and I bought something I didn't need.

Objectively listen to how that sounds.

[Steve2]

Interesting how the French deal with this 

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[puntingking]

Interesting how the French deal with this 

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Well done france

[puntingking]

Interesting how the French deal with this 

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Have you got the link to where you saw this post please?

[puntingking]

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French people are the most anti cashless society nationality in Europe.

[Steve2]

Have you got the link to where you saw this post please?

It was on this Facebook group I think

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[PilotMan]

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French people are the most anti cashless society nationality in Europe.

And the final sentence in that article......

"Like it or not, the future of money is cashless. Start preparing now."

 

[sparkus]

Oh well this GB News campaign is now being investigated by Ofcom.

Which is ironic as some of their presenters are being robbed of their bank accounts.

[puntingking]

It was on this Facebook group I think

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[catweazle]

Oh well this GB News campaign is now being investigated by Ofcom.

as I pointed out in reply #48 up there^^^

[bigden40]

Ofcom apparently  investigating to see if the campaign  infringes the no overtly political actions requirements for broadcasters  ( but also carefully pointing out that the merits or otherwise of the campaign are not part of the review)

Hmm, I imagine ITV must equally be under investigation for any number of Martin Lewis's campaigns then?

[alftupper]

Hmm, I imagine ITV must equally be under investigation for any number of Martin Lewis's campaigns then?

There's a difference between an independent journalist appearing on a channel, and the editorial policy of broadcaster.

[sparkus]

as I pointed out in reply #48 up there^^^

Missed that 

[Marmalade]

i suppose there are two sides to this argument. The BBC side or the gb news side as both report a different version to Farage story.

I like the contrast. BBC in spite of claims it’s too left or too right is still ‘mainstream’ and what the average person reads who considers the Daily Mail and Sun beneath him. It’s the formal, public face of the news even if it’s increasingly clickbait-ish. GB News has surprised me that it’s still going but it interesting to read, especially if the Beeb story on any issue grates. The Economist is the best intelligently written news source but expensive. The Guardian lets us see what incorrigible but articulate lefties love to whine about.

It’s good to take a break from all news sources occasionally. Experience the world first hand. More than 99.9% of news is totally irrelevant or redundant to one’s individual life.

[bigden40]

I like the contrast. BBC in spite of claims it’s too left or too right is still ‘mainstream’ and what the average person reads who considers the Daily Mail and Sun beneath him. It’s the formal, public face of the news even if it’s increasingly clickbait-ish. GB News has surprised me that it’s still going but it interesting to read, especially if the Beeb story on any issue grates. The Economist is the best intelligently written news source but expensive. The Guardian lets us see what incorrigible but articulate lefties love to whine about.

It’s good to take a break from all news sources occasionally. Experience the world first hand. More than 99.9% of news is totally irrelevant or redundant to one’s individual life.

The Economist has been utter pish for years, a shadow of its former self.

[Marmalade]

The Economist has been utter pish for years, a shadow of its former self.

In which case you must have been subscribing to know that?

Irrespective, it’s written in good English (as opposed to pish English) and makes its points (mostly) with cogent arguments rather than buzzwords. The catchy titles of the articles annoys me somewhat but they’re at least witty. It’s slightly right leaning and it annoys me that there isn’t an equally well-written go-to newspaper that is left-leaning. I haven’t noticed a massive difference from 20 years ago. Perhaps I disagree with an article more often, but that’s maybe me. I rather hate to think what you think of as a good newspaper if the Economist is ‘pish’.

[bigden40]

In which case you must have been subscribing to know that?

Irrespective, it’s written in good English (as opposed to pish English) and makes its points (mostly) with cogent arguments rather than buzzwords. The catchy titles of the articles annoys me somewhat but they’re at least witty. It’s slightly right leaning and it annoys me that there isn’t an equally well-written go-to newspaper that is left-leaning. I haven’t noticed a massive difference from 20 years ago. Perhaps I disagree with an article more often, but that’s maybe me. I rather hate to think what you think of as a good newspaper if the Economist is ‘pish’.

I subscribed to The Economist for many years. No longer subscribe due to its tendency towards being pish, which is a perfectly good adjective and I don’t care if you don’t like it.

Wouldn’t call it particularly right leaning either, it’s become generic globalist fare. Back in the day, when there was a lot more actual economics in it, they’d quite happily represent Monetarist and Keynesian viewpoints.

And to answer your question, I’m not convinced that there are any good newspapers left any more, journalism is all but dead in the legacy media.

 

[puntingking]

I like the contrast. BBC in spite of claims it’s too left or too right is still ‘mainstream’ and what the average person reads who considers the Daily Mail and Sun beneath him. It’s the formal, public face of the news even if it’s increasingly clickbait-ish. GB News has surprised me that it’s still going but it interesting to read, especially if the Beeb story on any issue grates. The Economist is the best intelligently written news source but expensive. The Guardian lets us see what incorrigible but articulate lefties love to whine about.

It’s good to take a break from all news sources occasionally. Experience the world first hand. More than 99.9% of news is totally irrelevant or redundant to one’s individual life.

Also any news brand will bash their competitors.  Most (if not all) care more about their brand image than news accuracy.  That's just my observation.   


For me though I find gb news are easier on the eye and less boring to get the news of the day. 

[puntingking]

I like the contrast. BBC in spite of claims it’s too left or too right is still ‘mainstream’ and what the average person reads who considers the Daily Mail and Sun beneath him. It’s the formal, public face of the news even if it’s increasingly clickbait-ish. GB News has surprised me that it’s still going but it interesting to read, especially if the Beeb story on any issue grates. The Economist is the best intelligently written news source but expensive. The Guardian lets us see what incorrigible but articulate lefties love to whine about.

It’s good to take a break from all news sources occasionally. Experience the world first hand. More than 99.9% of news is totally irrelevant or redundant to one’s individual life.

And the world tend to be a much more safer place than what we see on the news.

[Marmalade]

And the world tend to be a much more safer place than what we see on the news.

Yep. Pleasant even.

[puntingking]

The latest development on the "don't kill cash" campaign

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[Thephoenix]

I subscribed to The Economist for many years. No longer subscribe due to its tendency towards being pish, which is a perfectly good adjective and I don’t care if you don’t like it.

And to answer your question, I’m not convinced that there are any good newspapers left any more, journalism is all but dead in the legacy media.

At least we have some choice which is easy to take for granted.

An interesting documentary being shown on CH 4 at 2200hrs on Monday:

'The Price Of Truth'
About Dimitry Muratov, the editor of Russia's only 'independent' newspaper as he struggles to maintain some freedom of the press in the face of violent reprisals, including the murder of journalists and acid attacks.

[daviemac]

The treasury have announced banks can be fined if people have to travel more than 3 miles to withdraw or deposit cash.

That and the fact from next year new currency that features the king's head will be issued seems very odd if cash is being done away with.   

[puntingking]

Meanwhile a pub in Brentford is giving out beer for 50p each match day if they use CASH.

[PilotMan]

The treasury have announced banks can be fined if people have to travel more than 3 miles to withdraw or deposit cash.

That and the fact from next year new currency that features the king's head will be issued seems very odd if cash is being done away with.   

Exactly, this GB News campaign is just for publicity and clickbait.

I'm surprised that there are so many gullible people falling for it.

[puntingking]

Exactly, this GB News campaign is just for publicity and clickbait.

I'm surprised that there are so many gullible people falling for it.

gb news made the government introduce a new policy to protect cash. one of them being banks need to make sure that there is a free cash machine every one mile in urban areas and every 3 miles in countryside areas.

gb news is much better than the likes of sky and bbc in my opinion. Every time i turn on sky news or bbc news the stories are fear driven most of the time. first it was covid fear mongering and now it is climate change fear mongering. gb news is more british and tells more stories that affects the lives of uk citizens. sky and bbc tell more global news which i don't want to know as it does not and will not directly affect me.

also bbc news has been caught out with telling misinformation to the public. some examples - nigel farage debanking story, covid freedom rally story in which they said there were 50 people protesting.

[David1970]

Exactly, this GB News campaign is just for publicity and clickbait.

I'm surprised that there are so many gullible people falling for it.

The 3 things that surprised me about this story are
1 People watch GB News
2 People believe GB News
3 OFCOM has not closed it down for breaking the OFCOM rules repeatedly.

[daviemac]

gb news made the government introduce a new policy to protect cash.

Can you provide the evidence for that statement. 

[puntingking]

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-this news was announced three hours after gb news petition was handed in to downing Street

[puntingking]

The 3 things that surprised me about this story are
1 People watch GB News
2 People believe GB News
3 OFCOM has not closed it down for breaking the OFCOM rules repeatedly.

The two things surprised me about this story.

1, there are some that don't believe gb news
2, people believe bbc news

Can you tell me what gb news lied about?