Its not the sex your paying for

[TallnHung]

Behave I can't reply or Daviemac will put me on the naughty step 

Lol. Fair. I apologise profusely

[Colston36]

Do you punt Terry?
Yes I do

In your experience do you think there is a difference between an escort and a prostitute?
Most definitely An escort with an agency would not have the menu as you put it on display and those services should be discussed and agreed to during a booking.

Why should booking through an agency be different to booking an Indy ? Surely you agree the time/duration and services, any extras, costumes, whatever takes your fancy including any cum limits.

Yes it is consensual, but it isn’t a date. 
No it's not a date it's an opportunity to experience the lady's company and what she has to offer during that time and that what is agreed within that time she has set aside for you.

Some SPs (thats Service Providers!) make a huge amount of money
Yes I agree but no amount of money entitles a person to be disrespectful and entitled to sexual acts.

"Yes I agree but no amount of money entitles a person to be disrespectful and entitled to sexual acts."

The best person to comment on this is of course an escort, and the lovely Miss Wolf has taken the trouble to do so.

In fact the whole basis of escorting is that those who wish to can "be disrespectful and entitled to sexual acts."

I am vaguely curious as to what you do when you pay.

Do you exchange platitudes and beg for permission to stick your humble questing tongue up the lady's delectable arse?

In that case you have at least got the second half of the transaction right. Now put in a little work on the first half.

[mr.bluesky]

Terry you need to take up knitting love this game isn't for you.

And as for the bit in bold you can fuck right off mate, I screen my clients and don't just take anyone's money, I pride myself on making sure those screened clients have a great experience, I don't have one single negative or neutral review, but I do have an opinion and that is that you are full of shite

You're welcome 

  best reply yet , sharp and to the point 

[mr.bluesky]

 I have do doubt you are very good at what you do . I'll add you to my to do list.

If you do, please post a review , after all it's been nearly 2 years in the making 

[Thephoenix]

'It's not the sex you're paying for, it's the time!' ????

Thanks for explaining that!

The next time I'm enjoying my fbsm, and the lady says she wants an extra £20 for HJ, £40 for topless or £80 for b2b, I can inform her that I've already paid £40 for her time????

[IAmNotFamous]

Depends on what people value.

If I had a great time and I unload after 10 minutes into a 30 minute booking. I walk out a happy man.

Pivot. Think of the experience overall rather than the value for money and you’ll enjoy the encounter more.

Mileage is a thing. Escorts will do more for one punter than another. The fun bit of meeting an Escort is doing whatever you can to make them like you. Help them have some fun (reverse) charm them a bit. Make them laugh. Make the moment memorable for them. That way, next time you see them, they might loosen up and the encounter will be even more enjoyable.

[estats]

Initially the title of this thread did interest me, before Terry did seem to lose his way a little.

What I thought was interesting was the notion it is correct to say many clients don't pay for penetration and have many different motivations for various services, power exchange, fetish, whatever. Are all sexual, most are, but I'm sure there are many guys and ladies out there who pay for a lunch date alone, etc, i.e. something without any sexual motivation.

Terry also raises an entirely fair legal one on consent. Regardless of payment, consent is always required and paying for something isn't the same as being entitled to it if a scenario changes, I seriously cannot believe anyone could argue this point.

Generally, how I like to consider it though is you pay for a ladies time, confirm what you would like to do, but actually what I pay to do is walk away at the end of that time. I pay for an enjoyable time but to then leave without the other complications of time and relationship.

[Doc Holliday]

So Terry was in fact Teresa? 

[datwabbit]

I have wondered when did prostitutes become escorts?

It's a common definition now but an agency once told me that even now, women applied and were told that men would be wanting sex and they were expecting to be the +1 at events and nights out.

[datwabbit]

In terms of Terry, I wonder what they were doing for the last 2 years. Were they logging in and regularly fuming at reviews, majority of which involve playing with a cock. As a provider, what has got them riled about guys saying they didn't get sex? As far as I know, guys walk because of the interaction going badly or not pleased with what they saw. Are there any reviews where the guy turns up, and she says we're not having sex, and he reviews negatively?

[alabama1]

In terms of Terry, I wonder what he was doing for the last 2 years.

Probably monitoring her own reviews/feedback on here.

[daviemac]

So Terry was in fact Teresa? 

The OP looked to me as if it was written by a female so I sent a PM pointing out that all SPs had to declare their working names and that I thought that they were in fact an SP, the fact they stopped posting and didn't respond to the PM seemed to confirm it.

[datwabbit]

What I thought was interesting was the notion it is correct to say many clients don't pay for penetration and have many different motivations for various services, power exchange, fetish, whatever. Are all sexual, most are, but I'm sure there are many guys and ladies out there who pay for a lunch date alone, etc, i.e. something without any sexual motivation.

Terry also raises an entirely fair legal one on consent. Regardless of payment, consent is always required and paying for something isn't the same as being entitled to it if a scenario changes, I seriously cannot believe anyone could argue this point.

Guys who see escorts for dinner dates won't be reviewing that experience on here. It's not going to ruin her business if someone says she won't have sex. It'll just stop her getting business from members on here but not from men generally.

Consent is everything and it is important to agree what might be happening later. We're aware of incidents where women have thrown out punters so handing over money guarantees nothing. People might argue on a forum that they've paid money for services but they'll be making the assumption that they're behaving properly.

[Moby Dick]

In terms of Terry, I wonder what they were doing for the last 2 years. Were they logging in and regularly fuming at reviews, majority of which involve playing with a cock. As a provider, what has got them riled about guys saying they didn't get sex? As far as I know, guys walk because of the interaction going badly or not pleased with what they saw. Are there any reviews where the guy turns up, and she says we're not having sex, and he reviews negatively?

Paid for  “Companionship”, dinner dates, no doubt goes on. Cash machine visits I believe are also a thing but I doubt any seasoned punter is going to post a review on here.

I seem to recall a review about a holiday booking where the punter complained that the SP rationed the sex, expected payment for each encounter, and went off with other punters (holidaymakers) even though he had paid for her flights, expenses, meals, drinks, and a nominal amount for her time (sort of retainer).

[Hobbit]

Absolutely hilarious! Paying for time and not for services is a ridiculous concept and I have heard it before from girls that clearly don't want to deliver the services advertised and are in the wrong business.

[RedKettle]

Behave I can't reply or Daviemac will put me on the naughty step 

Is that an extra?

[datwabbit]

Absolutely hilarious! Paying for time and not for services is a ridiculous concept and I have heard it before from girls that clearly don't want to deliver the services advertised and are in the wrong business.

But the guy knows this early on because he's discussed what is expected so no need for a negative. Terry is suggesting that guys hand over the money and are sitting there wondering why she hasn't kissed him yet. So gives a negative because she won't have sex.

[IAmNotFamous]

But the guy knows this early on because he's discussed what is expected so no need for a negative. Terry is suggesting that guys hand over the money and are sitting there wondering why she hasn't kissed him yet. So gives a negative because she won't have sex.

Setting boundaries before the intimacy starts is fine.

In another thread (Escort > London > Elita) a forum member said you offered this service on this date to this person why can’t I get it? In other words there’s a sense of entitlement.

If an escort says no to a service then their wish should be respected.

[datwabbit]

Setting boundaries before the intimacy starts is fine.

In another thread (Escort > London > Elita) a forum member said you offered this service on this date to this person why can’t I get it? In other words there’s a sense of entitlement.

If an escort says no to a service then their wish should be respected.

Ah. Everyone thinks that they deserve all available services but it is hard to see what the provider sees or thinks of us. I think saying "why not me" is fine because we believe we are worthy but it's how you handle rejection.

[IAmNotFamous]

Ah. Everyone thinks that they deserve all available services but it is hard to see what the provider sees or thinks of us. I think saying "why not me" is fine because we believe we are worthy but it's how you handle rejection.

Asking why not me may be pushing it in my opinion. But if asked and the escort continues to say no, then it should be accepted.

Maybe not fair on the escort if they say no and the punter walks out and leave a negative review. Just isn’t fair on the escort and affects business - their livelihood - what helps put food on table and roof over head.

[Doc Holliday]

The OP looked to me as if it was written by a female

I agree

[FLYING BLUE]

Wow I really have touched a nerve. OMG
Thank you for all the reply guys.

How do you all feel about punters that visit escorts and the conversation starts with give me a good service and I'll leave a good review.  Trust me it happens
Surely you must agree its a little unfair as any undeserved negative feedback will damage an escorts reputation and flow of punters through the door.
Is this not cohesive behaviour and should it not be discouraged.

Go away Terry 

Edited to add - having now been to specsavers, I see Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms 'Terry' has already been banished & is probably now making him/her self look a total fool on another such forum

[Hobbit]

But the guy knows this early on because he's discussed what is expected so no need for a negative. Terry is suggesting that guys hand over the money and are sitting there wondering why she hasn't kissed him yet. So gives a negative because she won't have sex.

I thought Terry was Teresa. 

It sounds like it's a pissed-off escort with a dusty phone or a journalist.

[datwabbit]

Asking why not me may be pushing it in my opinion. But if asked and the escort continues to say no, then it should be accepted.

I agree but I mean it's a fair human reaction. Just because people will assume they're ok. People might not realise/believe they've got bad breath and smelly cock.

[Bogof60]

I knew there was something suspect about OP.

Do wonder what her motivation was for posting 

Can only assume she is an escort who thinks that escorting is a  non sexual transaction