Reviews with a telephone number?

[bensonhedges20]

Directed to admin but would like to hear thoughts.

Many more reviews are going up now so would be cool to see a checkbox with telephone number which could be beneficial to us punters when writing reviews.

1- saves emailing and searching
2- most girls have a personal and a working phone
3- helps on short notice bookings
4- aids the girls too

It would be good if this was applied to reviews as being optional and with reviews that have a number being promoted could have a telephone icon next to it.

Unsure if it could be applied but would like to here others thoughts...

[yorkshire123]

Just a personal thought but......

For scammers this should be a must when reviewing them & updated every time they change their profile & number.

Not sure with the rest but for some reason I feel a little uneasy about it, god knows why as their numbers are in the public domain.
Maybe I'm coming down with the fluff bug?

[Dani]

In principle it's a good idea but some girls don't put a phone number up as they prefer to start the vetting process with an email and don't want everybody to have access to her number. As it is not in the public domain then her full number should not be put up.  After all if she wants her number kept to only those she gives it too then like punters who do the same the number should be kept private or at the very least have the last three digits blocked out

[Mr Br1ghts1de]

I think it is fair enough where the girl routinely displays her number.

As Dani says though, some girls legitimately withhold their number for the purposes of vetting etc.

There have been some popular girls on here who have experienced enough hassle and trolls by simply having an AW profile, so I don't think it is right to display the number of a girl who is not sharing it publically.     

[ramrodronnie]

I think it is fair enough where the girl routinely displays her number.

As Dani says though, some girls legitimately withhold their number for the purposes of vetting etc.

There have been some popular girls on here who have experienced enough hassle and trolls by simply having an AW profile, so I don't think it is right to display the number of a girl who is not sharing it publically.   

I totally agree Mr Brightside. I think that it is the WGs perogative whether she wishes to display her number, or not. As Dani rightly points out that the WG can start the vetting process when first communicating via AW email.

[bensonhedges20]

Im mainly talking about those that do display their number openly.

I do get the discretion and vetting process but 7/10 escorts mainly accept bookings by 'being available'.

Those that wish to be discreet or want a booking made can easily do so by mentioning in the booking that you need or must have an aw account.


My main reasoning towards this is an escorts 'inability' to effectively manage bookings, not be available etc.

Surely this would help in those circumstances where you read in the profile to call her with the number  below but there isnt a number 

This isnt applied to remove the safety aspect or the trolling of working girls but to ease a plan B of a booking and effectively save the 'are you available at x on x or can i have a contact number emails? I doubt much can be vetted from that.

A telephone conversation is still a very good way to vet clients.

Lastly, its not like shes inputting her location here. That should always be discreet but an escorts number is just a tool she has which is very much needed to succeed in this business

[Hawkwind71]

Agree with Dani. If a WG wishes to keep it private then thats her choice. If we start putting numbers in reviews just for the ones that display it, someone is going to forget and display one that is not on display in AW. Hard to manage.

For me the bit that pisses me off is AW charging for searches of profiles with only phone numbers. I know you can use 'available today' but that includes girls who use the email only and not useful when you're looking for a same day booking in a few hours time.

[rg41]

I agree with Dani

[SirFrank]

As per Danis comments. Many girls don't openly advertise their numbers (for many reasons), I don't think it would be appropriate to include a number.

[cueball]

As per Danis comments. Many girls don't openly advertise their numbers (for many reasons), I don't think it would be appropriate to include a number.

Agreed

[Boundless]

I agree too.

After all, we are professional punters and have to keep up the standards, even if it isn't always reciprocated by WGs.

I would be dubious about giving phone numbers via PMs too if it was not advertised on the AW profile. I would (and have done) if it is  someone on here I know and trust.

[NelsonH]

Doesn't "banned-site but we all know which one", INSIST on a phone number.

Always used to.

[Jimmyredcab]

Doesn't "banned-site but we all know which one", INSIST on a phone number.

Always used to.

I think you are correct ----------------- that is why reviews on walk-ups were not allowed.   

[Mansell]

Agreed it's not a good idea, for a whole host of reasons. What happens if she changes it, punters will then be saying they can;t get her. AW number link is the best guide for indies. Then you still see them even if the name changes, I always use that to search for WG's reviewed.

[Jimmyredcab]

Agreed it's not a good idea, for a whole host of reasons. What happens if she changes it.

You won't be able to get through.     

[johnbanebridge]

Not sure about phone numbers but what about obligatory aw or website links? I know most do this anyway but I think making it an obligation would be a good idea.

[Hawkwind71]

I am much more likely to call a girl if her number is displayed or at least displayed when she is available.

I know some WG get back to you pretty quick, but if I have a selection on a same day booking, I have usually got through to someone else by the time the email comes back.

I am not promoting WG's to display their number, just stating a fact. Others may have different experiences.

So yes its the WG's choice but this does affect bookings I am sure.

[arthur]

What if the WG doesn't have a separate punting phone and has used her personal number, she'd then be searchable and potentially found by friends and family. Just like when a punter uses their own number and doesn't want it posted in places it would be linked to punting. As a minimum it should be in a format which blocks out digits, but then its pointless for the use OP wants it for.

[Jimmyredcab]

Not sure about phone numbers

If the phone number has been displayed at any time on the Adultwork profile then it is in the public domain and does not warrant privacy.

If the girl has given her number through PM then there is a case for it remaining private.   

[Jimmyredcab]

What if the WG doesn't have a separate punting phone and has used her personal number, she'd then be searchable and potentially found by friends and family.

Then she is fucking stupid, not our problem.

She can buy a phone for incoming calls for £9.99.       

[arthur]

Then she is fucking stupid, not our problem.

She can buy a phone for incoming calls for £9.99.       

Then its not a prossies problem if a punter hasn't used a separate phone and can post his number everywhere?

Id expect it to be a lot less likely as she should be smarter, but I know ive read of some that havnt, and we're not in the business of potentially outing each other. I guess this is only relevant if the number has been given privately and not already plastered all over AW.

[tantric talents]

Provided the wg has already posted her number to the public domain, I don't think the op's idea is a bad one at all for the following reason.

Many girls don't actually pay and put up their number until a certain time of day.
If a punter wants a someday booking with her and if her phone is off, then at least he can text or try to leave a voicemail for when she actually does get herself together.
It can be a real pain constantly checking her site to see if the number is showing, so at least this gives us punters more options.
New/changed numbers when spotted can easily be updated by the lads here?

[nike]

And it's a no for me.  The consensus seems to be in the negative and I agree. 

[tantric talents]

And it's a no for me.  The consensus seems to be in the negative and I agree. 

Actually the "consensus" relates only to to one caveat.
For girls who routinely display their number I frankly don't see the problem. 

[smiths]

Directed to admin but would like to hear thoughts.

Many more reviews are going up now so would be cool to see a checkbox with telephone number which could be beneficial to us punters when writing reviews.

1- saves emailing and searching
2- most girls have a personal and a working phone
3- helps on short notice bookings
4- aids the girls too

It would be good if this was applied to reviews as being optional and with reviews that have a number being promoted could have a telephone icon next to it.

Unsure if it could be applied but would like to here others thoughts...

I only phone WGs so a number is essential to me, I see no problem with posting advertised phone numbers in reviews, the WG has voluntarily put that number in the public domain so 100% her responsibility for doing that in my view. Obviously this is something only admin can decide on.

[yorkshire123]

Then its not a prossies problem if a punter hasn't used a separate phone and can post his number everywhere?

I assume that was a knee jerk reaction post?

That's the kind of bollocks quote I would expect to read on dumbs-net or (we're in it for the money) saafe not from a punter on a punters forum.

[arthur]

I assume that was a knee jerk reaction post?

That's the kind of bollocks quote I would expect to read on dumbs-net or (we're in it for the money) saafe not from a punter on a punters forum.

It has a question mark on the end, obviously I don't believe the statement.
Its to point out how silly the original point was when we flip the scenario.

[smiths]

What if the WG doesn't have a separate punting phone and has used her personal number, she'd then be searchable and potentially found by friends and family. Just like when a punter uses their own number and doesn't want it posted in places it would be linked to punting. As a minimum it should be in a format which blocks out digits, but then its pointless for the use OP wants it for.

Then she either doesn't care or is a fucking idiot and as an adult its 100% her responsibility what she does, not punters. A WG decides to put her number on the net to get punters so should of thought carefully of the potential consequences of doing so before posting it online in my view. Punters DONT decide to put their numbers online so WGs shouldn't post them online except in the scenario where he attacked or robbed the WG as I see it and even then that relies on the WG being honest and not doing so out of spite which might or might not be the truth.

IF a WGs number isn't online then it shouldn't be posted up in my opinion because the WG has chosen for it not to be online obviously, where this isn't 100% is when a WG had her number up at one time but doesn't anymore, but once she chose to put it up initially that was down to her.

[Quesadilla]

As far as I can see some only put their number up when they are actually available so I think publishing it permanently is crossing a line. Yes once it's in the public domain there's an argument that it's tough luck but I suspect if we started doing that those WG's that only put their number up when it suited would stop doing it at all. That wouldn't bother me as I almost never make contact by phone without emailing first but for the phone only crew it may be not so good.

I personally keep a separate spreadsheet of my shortlist of potential punts and if there's a number in AW I stick it in there for my own personal use as I cant always get on AW when mobile - I recommend others do the same. But I don't think it's my place to share a number and would never do so via PM let alone in a review.

[arthur]

Then she either doesn't care or is a fucking idiot and as an adult its 100% her responsibility what she does, not punters. A WG decides to put her number on the net to get punters so should of thought carefully of the potential consequences of doing so before posting it online in my view. Punters DONT decide to put their numbers online so WGs shouldn't post them online except in the scenario where he attacked or robbed the WG as I see it and even then that relies on the WG being honest and not doing so out of spite which might or might not be the truth.

IF a WGs number isn't online then it shouldn't be posted up in my opinion because the WG has chosen for it not to be online obviously, where this isn't 100% is when a WG had her number up at one time but doesn't anymore, but once she chose to put it up initially that was down to her.

I said above its only relevant when the number has been given privately and not plastered all over AW.

But if it becomes a regular thing on reviews how is the message relayed over the years that the number must be a publicly available one, newbies join and see phone numbers on reviews so when they post their first reviews they would be posting numbers only given privately without knowing its not the correct way.

Also if the number is already on the AW profile then all you have to do it click one link to get it anyway, how much time is it saving when prossies constantly change their numbers.

[smiths]

As far as I can see some only put their number up when they are actually available so I think publishing it permanently is crossing a line. Yes once it's in the public domain there's an argument that it's tough luck but I suspect if we started doing that those WG's that only put their number up when it suited would stop doing it at all. That wouldn't bother me as I almost never make contact by phone without emailing first but for the phone only crew it may be not so good.

I personally keep a separate spreadsheet of my shortlist of potential punts and if there's a number in AW I stick it in there for my own personal use as I cant always get on AW when mobile - I recommend others do the same. But I don't think it's my place to share a number and would never do so via PM let alone in a review.

I do the same by making a note of a WGs number usually though not always and I would only give that number to punters I trust and I have got a WGs number this way as well, none complained to me about it, they wanted my business.

I totally disagree any line has been crossed by putting a WGs advertised phone number in a review for the reasons I gave in my previous post, but yes it COULD put some WGs off putting it up at all though my experience of another forum where numbers were a requirement in a review showed me it wasn't a problem and I don't recall even very strident WGs on that sites forum complaining about it.

[smiths]

I said above its only relevant when the number has been given privately and not plastered all over AW.

But if it becomes a regular thing on reviews how is the message relayed over the years that the number must be a publicly available one, newbies join and see phone numbers on reviews so when they post their first reviews they would be posting numbers only given privately without knowing its not the correct way.

Also if the number is already on the AW profile then all you have to do it click one link to get it anyway, how much time is it saving when prossies constantly change their numbers.

I assume if it happened admin would put guidance about it at the place where you post a new review up, though I accept there are some punters as proved who don't follow the existing guidance about posting links up for example even though its in red. So as ever its an issue only admin can decide on, as I said above its not as though this hasn't happened elsewhere for many years, its nothing new on at least one punting site, its just not been the case on here.

[Boundless]

I do the same by making a note of a WGs number usually though not always and I would only give that number to punters I trust and I have got a WGs number this way as well, none complained to me about it, they wanted my business.

I totally disagree any line has been crossed by putting a WGs advertised phone number in a review for the reasons I gave in my previous post, but yes it COULD put some WGs off putting it up at all though my experience of another forum where numbers were a requirement in a review showed me it wasn't a problem and I don't recall even very strident WGs on that sites forum complaining about it.

Once I put a WG in my hot list I put the number in the notes on AW. Then if/when the number is taken off then I can still phone if required.

[Hawkwind71]

Once I put a WG in my hot list I put the number in the notes on AW. Then if/when the number is taken off then I can still phone if required.

That's exactly what I do and when it comes to punts, they all get priority over the ones that insist on email first. A phone number is just better for business.

However it remains the WG's own business decision.

[Quesadilla]

That's exactly what I do and when it comes to punts, they all get priority over the ones that insist on email first. A phone number is just better for business.

However it remains the WG's own business decision.

Disagree that a phone number is better for business. Some punters prefer phone contact, others like myself prefer e-mail contact first, phone only if & when it's clear we're going to proceed to a booking.   

[Hawkwind71]

Disagree that a phone number is better for business. Some punters prefer phone contact, others like myself prefer e-mail contact first, phone only if & when it's clear we're going to proceed to a booking.   

Quesadilla, does that work for you on a same day? For example trying to set up a 2pm booking at 10am? How many emails before a response? I might try it as its less 'conspicuous' if it works.

[Boundless]

Quesadilla, does that work for you on a same day? For example trying to set up a 2pm booking at 10am? How many emails before a response? I might try it as its less 'conspicuous' if it works.

No it doesn't work.
I think we all agree that e-mail is only any good for tomorrow or thereafter, unless the prossie is exceptionally well organised.
My two regulars are very well organised and reliable but I wouldn't expect a same day response from e-mails, they both look at them in the evenings while watching telly!

[Hawkwind71]

No it doesn't work.
I think we all agree that e-mail is only any good for tomorrow or thereafter, unless the prossie is exceptionally well organised.
My two regulars are very well organised and reliable but I wouldn't expect a same day response from e-mails, they both look at them in the evenings while watching telly!

Yeah I figured as much. That's why I've switched to mostly phone. Lost interest in the advance booking. Too many things can go wrong on both sides.  Again, this is my view and doesn't work for all.

[Quesadilla]

Quesadilla, does that work for you on a same day? For example trying to set up a 2pm booking at 10am? How many emails before a response? I might try it as its less 'conspicuous' if it works.

I am generally looking a day or two ahead - sometimes more.  But that said a few times I've e-mailed in the morning with good results for an afternoon meet.  You can't search directly by this, but you can specify in an AW search "logged in during the last week", and then when you view the profile in the AW results check the "last logged on" at the bottom - if it says "today" it probably means she's keeping logged in to check emails so you are pretty likely to get a reply that day. 

I rarely am limited to a specific time so can work around a girls schedule.  But I also always have three or four options in my shortlist so if I don't get a response via AW email within an hour or two I'll e-mail another.  Occasionally I've emailed three potentials at the same time - just been very careful about my wording - along the lines of "might be in your vicinity between x and y today, just wondering if you're free?" - that way if you get multiple positive responses you can choose without getting labelled a timewaster.

Very rare I don't get some response and I have always had it in mind that I'll resort to phone if it's getting late in the day but it's not happened yet. 

Just saw Sam55's response - I have to disagree - some are definitely more organised in my experience. 

[vw]

You can't search directly by this, but you can specify in an AW search "logged in during the last week"

Have used the logged in now search successfully for late night bookings including NYE 2am outcall.  If there logged in your chances are higher than logged in in last week especially if your needy and disorganised like me !

[Hawkwind71]

Occasionally I've emailed three potentials at the same time - just been very careful about my wording - along the lines of "might be in your vicinity between x and y today, just wondering if you're free?" - that way if you get multiple positive responses you can choose without getting labelled a timewaster.

I find the 'available today' pretty good too. I then scan through to see if any are in my hotlist. Just did a check and if I were punting today, that's 7. Pretty darn spiffy. But as an alternative, I like the above idea.

[Quesadilla]

I find the 'available today' pretty good too. I then scan through to see if any are in my hotlist. Just did a check and if I were punting today, that's 7. Pretty darn spiffy. But as an alternative, I like the above idea.

You can include "in my hotlist" as a search criteria alongside available today - but wgs have to pay for the available today light and some don't - so last login is a good alternative I find. 

[Hawkwind71]

You can include "in my hotlist" as a search criteria alongside available today - but wgs have to pay for the available today light and some don't - so last login is a good alternative I find.

OK I'll try that. Its pretty important stuff and great combination. Hotlist plus last logged in = good chance she'll respond.

Shit you learn eh !

[Hawkwind71]

Did it. So simple. Thanks a bunch !!!!

[Quesadilla]

Did it. So simple. Thanks a bunch !!!!

NP - that's what this site is all about!