Do you enjoy this secret life?

[king tarzan]

I am a very decent honest sensible man.
This lifestyle suits my physical needs 100% perfectly. ..
I desire different physical beauty's all the time..

[CityTillIDie]

When I started my hobby 2-years ago it was a case of need.

In some early posts & reviews I made the point that 'if I had a bad back I would go and see a professional to sort it out....but I don't have a bad back.'

That was after over a year with no sex at home, at that time the 'risk & reward' kick also added to the spice of the hole experience.

Divorce is now underway and kids (grown up) are already saying that I should be looking for a new partner. I say Fuck That, the hassle of finding some woman who I like enough to bother and who likes me enough to bother, then dating, dining, romancing her to get what would likely be an average fuck, and then get all the fucking shite attached to being in a relationship again, No Thanks.

I'd much rather spend my hard earned on red hot meets with someone who I know is gong to put out the moment I get it out.

That said, during the time that my hobby being discovered would have caused a huge headache, I did find out that I'm a better liar than I thought, and also a lot better at making money disappear with no questions asked. Did a tot up earlier this year and realised that I have managed to spend over £5k in 2-years in secret. God I'm good.

Also, finding UKP has helped to know I'm not alone, just a horny guy.

My philosophy is that when you look back on life, it is simply a collection of experiences and I want to have a great 'highlights reel'.

Absolutely hit the nail on the head.
I'm divorced, four years back.
Would I ever have another partner - no.
I love my independence.
And a couple of punts a month suits me perfectly.
Now I can research and peruse and anticipate to my heart's content.

In fact, life is simply SO much better. No one to answer to, very good at filling my leisure time, only 51 reasonably healthy, attractive etc, so life is great!

Best of luck! 

CTID

[dicksplash09]

Great posts chaps
I don't think I can add much to all what has been said  but the anticipation of the walk of shame and the knock at the door gives me the buzz. most of my mates do it or have done it and  no one is ashamed, oldest business transaction in the world.   

[stokiemike]

The anticipation when you're on the way to see a wg you've not seen before is a great adrenalin rush.

I have two different methods - I see a few regular girls a few times a year and know that these sessions are always going to be good. I always feel great after one of these hot sessions.

I also take a risk from time to time with various wg's I've not seen before, sometimes with 0 feedback, including Romanians. This is where the anticipation kicks in. When you get a good session with one of those it's a real boost. Admittedly, sometimes these meets are pretty poor, but not as often as some on here make out. OK so you have to take the rough with the smooth - but that's part of my punting style.

It depends on what suits you. Each to their own I suppose.

SM

[RadioKid]

Been in out in out for the best part of several years now.

There have been many threads like this.  I'm with the general consensus. If caught, you can potentially lose your job and most certainly lose your wife and even family and house should she go for divorce.

Also like the majority, it's very common to feel a debilitating level of regret. But it is an addiction, and I always find myself making an excuse to book again. (Though I have massively cut down over the years).

The biggest regret for me, more so than cheating(yes I'm a bastard) is the sheer volume of money I've wasted.

So yeah, it's a secret and will remain a secret till I have more willpower or my wallet dries out 

[MaxDeane]

The biggest regret for me, more so than cheating(yes I'm a bastard) is the sheer volume of money I've wasted.

So yeah, it's a secret and will remain a secret till I have more willpower or my wallet dries out 

If you believe that your money is being wasted then you're just not finding the right WG's.

Look at any hobby, going to gigs, playing golf, following a football or rugby team (& actually going to games), following motorsport (forgetting participating in amateur stuff), even drinking down the pub. Each of these become an addiction to lots of people and they cost a lot of money, sure, they may be socially accepted pastimes for blokes that you don't need to keep under wraps, but what do people take away with them, other than the experience.

I got invited to a Champions League game at Chelsea last March, comp'd ticket, but I would have to sort out travel from the west country, accommodation on match day, meals and other shite. So easy £500, to watch 22-men run about kicking a ball for 1:30.

Fuck that, I arranged a 2-hr duo with 2 smoking hot ladies, had a blast, which I can remember vividly.

If you know any Chelsea fans, ask them who scored last March at Stamford Bridge against PSG, if they can remember one of the two names, then ask them about the goal.

I can still recall having 2 women in only high heels, kneeling in front of me, all of us in front of a full length mirror, taking turns sucking my cock.

Like I say, my philosophy is that when you look back on life, it is simply a collection of experiences and I want to have a great 'highlights reel'.

[electro]

MaxDeane you are a legend

[nodrah]

I enjoy it but not because of the secrecy.

I really couldn't give a shit if anyone knew what I did on a personal level but it just happens that there would be consequences if someone did know so I keep it a secret.

...... or to put it another way ..... I do give a shit ........

[two20]

Just a thought. It really is a wonderful secret life but I'm wondering what percentage of attached punters have been caught? Then it becomes a very different question.

[king tarzan]

If it wasn't for this dark secret life I would not of shagged porn stars

Madlin moon
Miya rai
Jessica ann brownlie  (c movies actress or what ever modelling bollox she is into)

World class stunners like

Lovely dyana
Sensual lara
Angela divine
Sophia_lawrence
Hot cristal 4 u

Just naming a few

Also to hot cristal 4 u and Sophia_lawrence I have introduced  my heavyweight king size lion bar to them ( I could tell by there reactions that bloody hell it's huge!)
Makes me feel bloody great!!

So it's a win win situation for me..

A girlfriend / wife comes with relationship issues family friends issues. ..
Responsibilities baggage...

A very big no no for me I just need sex and I am satisfied. .

[Thecunninglinguist]

Not trying to ingratiate myself with admin or anything but I have genuinely enjoyed this hobby of ours very much more since joining UKP. At last there are others to share experiences and some banter with, albeit anonymously. For years I had to keep things to myself. It seems whilst there are differences of opinion and the odd spat we are all in the same mind on most things.
Thanks for the company guys...and gals

[ryandunn]

I like rub and tugs and found not to be enjoying them, due to the worry of being spotted in a near by town coming out a parlour.

I now tell the misses i'm off for a sports massage due to fucking myself up in the gym, that way I can be off the radar for an hour without worry. I sometimes even joke that I got a happy ending, she brushes it off as banter

[riskytimes]

there are few pleasures in life these days .... the OH still thinks that sex is a birthday treat and xmas well i still play along but throughout the year I fuck a bird half my age and I dont care anymore i will be dead longer than my life so who gives a fuck !!!!

[webpunter]

+1 it can be worth a moderate outlay on the odd occasion just to find out.  If a no then i'd get myself round the local chinky gaff & get tugged off

Not making myself clear - absolutely most girls do, but sometimes you meet girls that you are sure wont, but in the end do; or even better say they wont but after a couple of visits definitely do!

Those are rare and fucking awesome when they happen. But in most cases, I agree you'll probably never find out cos at £25/30 entry fee, you want something for your dosh.Doesnt stop me trying though

[webpunter]

I would quit while you're ahead & drop this comment

I sometimes even joke that I got a happy ending, she brushes it off as banter

[webpunter]

What a load of b******s
Well unless you work for a town council or some other politically correct organization.  In which case being fired should be viewed as a blessing in disguise

If caught, you can potentially lose your job

[Sedition]

When I first started I did get off on the whole "secret squirrel " aspect: sneaking about hotels, inventing cover stories for my whereabouts, hiding computer stuff etc etc.
These days I find it a bit of a bore.
I'm also not so keen on the fact that I find it very easy to lie about it, and, that i've become supremely adept  at lying.
I'm not remotely ashamed about punting. I am slightly uncomfortable with having to lie about it.

[MrMatrix]

I seem to be contrary to everyone else. I don't enjoy it. I find it stressful and shameful but it's a need I need to fill. I am an uptight shit though. I wish my partner was a filthy sex maniac but she's not and that's why I do it.

Don't get me wrong. I enjoy the experiences I've had, it's just the sneaking around that I can't stand

Initially I felt like pewpew. And occasionally still do as I never imagined using prossies. However in the sexless marriage I was in, I decided something had to be done as I don't want to look over my shoulder in 20 years time and have regrets. I no longer have those regrets as my bucket list is almost complete and then some. I love the the fact that I'm going to podge some hot bird that I wouldn't normally get close to. Also she wont have fucking reams of excuses to avoid sex. No, I too wouldn't get married again and trying to negotiate with someone who perceives themselves as an unwilling victim. So much easier to stump up £150 and get what you want from such a meeting and probably a lot cheaper in the long run. 2-3 times a month and I'm sorted- result.

[Diehard]

I get the impression that for the vast majority of us the fact we punt is a pretty well hidden facet of our lives. Indeed for those of us maintaining valued relationships with OHs or for whom divorce is a far too expensive option then secrecy is vital.

I also suspect that for many of us our circle of family and friends would be truly shocked by such a revelation - other than the ones who also punt.

Does all this add a certain thrill to the whole experience?

It does for me. It is the only thing I do that is off the perceived normal track of a "respectable" British middle class chap and being part of this world, including the membership of UKP, is frankly fun.

Indeed given all the poor and frustrating experiences we have punting, despite UKP, then there almost has to be a buzz about it to make you do it.

I'm with you on this. I actually now get more pleasure from a good punt with a good service provider (hard to find) than I do pulling on tinder. There is definitely a buzz going to an incall or hotel with the slight concern you might be walking into something problematic.

I actually crave more risqué fun. I'm at the stage where sex needs to have some risk attached to it. Might be a sign I've been punting too long, or a sign of a mid life crisis.

[Diehard]

If you believe that your money is being wasted then you're just not finding the right WG's.

Look at any hobby, going to gigs, playing golf, following a football or rugby team (& actually going to games), following motorsport (forgetting participating in amateur stuff), even drinking down the pub. Each of these become an addiction to lots of people and they cost a lot of money, sure, they may be socially accepted pastimes for blokes that you don't need to keep under wraps, but what do people take away with them, other than the experience.

I got invited to a Champions League game at Chelsea last March, comp'd ticket, but I would have to sort out travel from the west country, accommodation on match day, meals and other shite. So easy £500, to watch 22-men run about kicking a ball for 1:30.

Fuck that, I arranged a 2-hr duo with 2 smoking hot ladies, had a blast, which I can remember vividly.

If you know any Chelsea fans, ask them who scored last March at Stamford Bridge against PSG, if they can remember one of the two names, then ask them about the goal.

I can still recall having 2 women in only high heels, kneeling in front of me, all of us in front of a full length mirror, taking turns sucking my cock.

Like I say, my philosophy is that when you look back on life, it is simply a collection of experiences and I want to have a great 'highlights reel'.

Yes exactly. If there is a hobby I've wasted money on over the years it is watching my local football team lose most of the time. Not hookers except the obvious shit punts

[king tarzan]

It's the dark most of the time happy beautiful secret for me anyway..

[Drayki]

I get a massive kick out of shagging a wg, from the very first email to the texts and finally getting spruced up knowing that from when your finally at the door knowing youll be in her pants and having your cock sucked, the whole thrill of it sends me into orbit every time

[king tarzan]

I love it no ends
To have contact with a stunner
See her pay her to rent her
Feel her kiss her oral bothways her fuck her
Nothing better than that!!
Don't have the disappointment of getting blanked and oh I only see you as a friend..

[wheeliebinwanking]

This also for me.

The journey to and from a punt is often stressful as I have a weak alibi should I be caught while out for my fun, and add a bit of anxiety due to meeting someone new and pretty for sex.

Same... I would love to talk about this in the open but unfortunately this sort of pursuit is frowned upon.

Take a few weeks ago. I booked a 1hr appointment but I was such a nervous wreck that I left after 20 minutes! Had a fine time and absolutely needed the release but it was my fault for booking at the wrong time. Later appointments are better for me

WBW

[MaxDeane]

Later appointments are better for me

I much prefer a morning punt, 1st caller of the day if possible, you get the lady nice and fresh, traffic can sometimes be an issue, but if it's a private residence you can be 'the estate agent checking out an address' (I'm usually suited or smart casual for work), or if it's a hotel then 'I'm the businessman meeting a colleague'.

I'm so bare faced when I'm on a punt, I've even do what all WG beg you not to do and I head to reception, to get comp parking.

Tell the receptionist that I'm 'meeting a colleague in the bar/restaurant but will only be a couple hours, could you add me to the resident parking for the day', not that adding £5 to a punt makes a difference but that is what I do if I am actually meeting a colleague, so why not. Works more than 50% of the time.

 

[Horizontal pleasures]

My life would simply fall apart if my hobby was revealed. I do not like the secrecy but it has to be so. That is why I like it here as I can be myself.

[JamesRod]

I would concur with the previous poster. Those close to me would be utterly disgusted if they ever found out I was a punter and it would ruin my life too.

It's a topic that will always be taboo I think. Don't think anyone in a relationship or with elder children would ever admit to this hobby.

[nervous1]

I get a kick out of it for sure but it makes me feel like a scumbag sometimes even though I'm very respectful towards WGs.  The only thing I've got going for me is that family, friends & colleagues think I'm a 'nice guy' so if I was exposed then I don't think I would deal well with them knowing that.  It's different for me as I'm single but as someone who values my privacy then it still has risks. 

One of the more unfortunate aspects for me has been me giving the cold shoulder to some women who like me are quite reserved and quiet and on the face of it a good match as potential partner but I feel like a monster when I'm chatting to them.  I've always found it too hard to make connections with the opposite sex but punting has made it even harder.  I don't like upsetting people.

I also don't enjoy the possibility of people in my workplace finding out.  I punted on the same street as my place of work a few months back which was madness.  Only a matter of time before I get caught and I suspect a couple of folks have suspicions already but could be just paranoia.

Pity party aside, I do love acting out fantasies rather than just talking about them like most guys do (or seem to).  Getting to the point where you forget how many women you have had sex with over a certain period of time is actually a very pleasing thought.

[Drayki]

Totally agree there, also love the first punt of the day, the girl you see is either horny as fuck coz she hasn't had a cock for a day or 2 depending how many punters she sees a day and also shes usually nice and fresh and clean down below, I guess some wgs don't bother cleaning themselves if their seeing numerous clients a day. 

[king tarzan]

I am a noble honest decent man.
I really do enjoy this part of my life renting beautiful  women out for girlfriend experiences..
I do nothing sordid or depraved, not in my clean humble living nature to do so..
I enjoy the 30 mins to 1 hour extremely splendidly. .
Only downside is it can take upto several hours to gain access to that worthy girlfriend experience fulfilment. .
Have to cut through the bait and switches, the lying services the bad attitudes etc..

[Neal69]

Someone very close to me recently told me that " I was the most predictable Man She has ever known"

I know She would be horrified if She knew I have been shagging prossies on a regular basis for a good few years now.

So Yes I do like the fact that I have a secret life.

My Civvie life is fairly predictable, although not at all boring, But the fact that I walk on the wild side sometimes does give me a bit of a Buzz.

The shagging who I feel like also helps my sense of wellbeing as well.

N

[king tarzan]

Some of the ladies I know at work family friends would be horrified at this dark secret part of my life.
They would definitely not believe it...
But at the end of the day I am paying for sex and within sexual interaction hour I am treating no differently the lady as if I had a girlfriend /wife..

I am not being depraved or abusive or aggressive so nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed of...

[Mansell]

I've taken risks all my life to get what I want, this is just another one.

It's great that this site exists so it's possible to actually talk about it, otherwise it would be a very lonely experience 

[Neal69]

I've taken risks all my life to get what I want, this is just another one.

It's great that this site exists so it's possible to actually talk about it, otherwise it would be a very lonely experience 

+1

N

[Jonestown]

It's different for me as I'm single but as someone who values my privacy then it still has risks. 

Only a matter of time before I get caught and I suspect a couple of folks have suspicions already but could be just paranoia.

I don't understand, if you are single who exactly is going to be looking into your activities, and what has it got to do with them what you get upto ?

[MrT222]

It's been great fun despite the occasional no shows and the rubbish providers.

The long-and-short of it is there's basically no other way to have no strings attached sex with a variety of different beautiful women so easily. It's a bit expensive but I spend more on other things that I enjoy less (like my car) and it's all within budget.

That said, I would never tell my friends, colleagues or family. It's a shame it's not more accepted, it would be a lot better for both the girls and us.

[ClitTeaser]

I punt occasionally when I feel the need.  To that end I enjoy it because I need the release.  It is a practical solution to a male requirement.  Unlike many I don"t consider it a hobby any more than I would consider eating a hobby.

I enjoy the fact that I can have sex with a beautiful woman who would be out of my league normally.  (Let's be honest most of them would be so high maintenance that seeing them professionally probably works out cheaper.) UKP has been of great help in advising me who to go with in this respect.

 I still need to keep it all secret because the consequences could be awkward.  I expect this will remain because I cannot see the British attitude to commercial sex changing in my lifetime.

[Jumping Jack Flash]

I do enjoy it very much.

My enthusiasm has been rekindled over the last year or so. Prior to that I had become jaded with the quality of local WG's and the demise of many parlours in my area. So I started to visit TCM places for a rub n tug. I do enjoy a good massage so the added bonus of a decent massage turning sensual was always a huge plus.

At the end of 2015 I discovered Seeking Arrangement and I've got back into fucking women of all ages for money. Now the lines are blurred on SA. The women on there don't see themselves as WG's but we know they are. It's been a great period for me on there and has rekindled my love of fucking various women for money.

[king tarzan]

I punt occasionally when I feel the need.  To that end I enjoy it because I need the release.  It is a practical solution to a male requirement.  Unlike many I don"t consider it a hobby any more than I would consider eating a hobby.

I enjoy the fact that I can have sex with a beautiful woman who would be out of my league normally.  (Let's be honest most of them would be so high maintenance that seeing them professionally probably works out cheaper.) UKP has been of great help in advising me who to go with in this respect.

 I still need to keep it all secret because the consequences could be awkward.  I expect this will remain because I cannot see the British attitude to commercial sex changing in my lifetime.

You have hit the nail on the head..
I can honestly say the calibre of woman I go to on the paying to rent for sex basis works out much cheaper..

By some freak of nature I pulled one of them ok I will get sex for free all nighters etc which I would use protection anyway example to avoid pregnancy mainly ( which wouldn't interest me anyway as I get bored of women after an hour or so) but the maintenance on her would be astronomical
The expensive restaurants,  the expensive clothes,  every bahenjodh fucken thing expensive! !

It works out cheaper much cheaper in fact bone her at £200  and move on to the next honey and bone her too at £200 and then move on to the next honey bone her too and so forth. .

So I am getting multiple honeys working out cheaper without all the normal relationship nonsense and high maintenance money bullshit!!

And for the record I get sick of the same woman after an hour or so and if I visit her agsin I start too see physical flaws!!


This way works better for me!!

[Lucky Luke 70]

Some of the ladies I know at work family friends would be horrified at this dark secret part of my life.
They would definitely not believe it...
But at the end of the day I am paying for sex and within sexual interaction hour I am treating no differently the lady as if I had a girlfriend /wife..
I am not being depraved or abusive or aggressive so nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed of...

+1 

[Home Alone]

Someone very close to me recently told me that " I was the most predictable Man She has ever known"

I know She would be horrified if She knew I have been shagging prossies on a regular basis for a good few years now.

So Yes I do like the fact that I have a secret life.

My Civvie life is fairly predictable, although not at all boring, But the fact that I walk on the wild side sometimes does give me a bit of a Buzz.

The shagging who I feel like also helps my sense of wellbeing as well.

N

Well, although none of my civvy female friends has told me how predictable I am - although I bet a lot of them think it! - I can identify with every word of Neal's post.

Additionally, as a 71-year-old, I revel in the thought that I am regularly doing something that many of my contemporaries can't/don't.  And with fit attractive MILFs too, rather than many of the women around my age!    

The icing on the cake is that I use my 'guilty secret' to have enjoyable days out, rather, again like many of my contrmporaries, than just sitting around home watching daytime TV!  Some of my neighbours see me setting off for a punt and ask, "Are you off gallivanting again?"  They just get the broadest of  in reply!

Little do they know how little they know!! 

[Shearer1955]

We're a long time in the ground so why not enjoy it whilst we can!

I love the expectation of the day & then meeting someone you like who within a few minutes you are stripping & shagging the arse off her

[Plan R]

I can honestly say the calibre of woman I go to on the paying to rent for sex basis works out much cheaper..       the maintenance on her would be astronomical
The expensive restaurants,  the expensive clothes,  every bahenjodh fucken thing expensive! !
It works out cheaper much cheaper in fact bone her at £200  and move on to the next honey and bone her too at £200 and then move on to the next honey bone her too and so forth. .

+1
As the Yanks say:    'If it floats, flies or fucks - hire it '

[bristolqwerty]

My last civvy date £270 = £140 theatre tickets, £90 bite to eat, £20 petrol, £20 drinks and no sex, lady a bit annoying.
Last punt £270 = 2hrs lots and lots and lots of sex, setlroiulsh taken care of by a hot and horny Romanian plus I actually found her funny and charming.

[MaxDeane]

My last civvy date £270 = £140 theatre tickets, £90 bite to eat, £20 petrol, £20 drinks and no sex, lady a bit annoying.
Last punt £270 = 2hrs lots and lots and lots of sex, setlroiulsh taken care of by a hot and horny Romanian plus I actually found her funny and charming.

My point exactly, and I bet that even though you didn't get on, it is the social norm to make at least some further contact with the 'annoying lady' to ensure that she doesn't slate you to mutual friends or on social media or some other arena for bad feedback in one way or another.

Whereas, assuming you treat WG's with respect you never get any of this shite, and you got your rocks off. In fact, paying a Romanian £270, I'd assume you blew your load at least twice and got to stick your dick in every hole, and all with an extremely willing partner.

So, sure you can't sing it from the rooftops, but based on based on your simple comparison of the two events, I know which on I'd choose to duplicate myself.

This secret life ROCKS!

[MaxDeane]

Well, although none of my civvy female friends has told me how predictable I am - although I bet a lot of them think it! - I can identify with every word of Neal's post.

Additionally, as a 71-year-old, I revel in the thought that I am regularly doing something that many of my contemporaries can't/don't.  And with fit attractive MILFs too, rather than many of the women around my age!    

The icing on the cake is that I use my 'guilty secret' to have enjoyable days out, rather, again like many of my contrmporaries, than just sitting around home watching daytime TV!  Some of my neighbours see me setting off for a punt and ask, "Are you off gallivanting again?"  They just get the broadest of  in reply!

Little do they know how little they know!! 

Home Alone, you're my new hero, 71 and still bashing it to younger women.

Total result, and a great personal target to try and emulate, just means that I've got to keep myself in reasonable shape and in funds for at least the next 25 year. I personally average 10-15 punts a year, so that should be about 350+ new women to look forward to.

I'm more than happy to keep that secret.

BTW, how do you judge the age thing to avoid awkward punts, or doesn't this come up, i.e. to you work to a target age, like never more than 35-years younger than yourself?

[bigmanbigman]

Your joking
Never under 18 years old !!!

[mediumjoe]

Hi Max,  I can't answer for Home Alone -but great going ,  The thing to remember is from the girls perspective you aren't an age you're money in the bank to her .  Let's face it if she's  24  a fat ugly 40 year-old man isn't very different to a fat ugly 65-year-old .  To my way of  thinking  (for me at 61)  24 is too young,  my minimum age is 30 - ymmv.  Joe

[sparkus]

My last civvy date £270 = £140 theatre tickets, £90 bite to eat, £20 petrol, £20 drinks and no sex, lady a bit annoying.
Last punt £270 = 2hrs lots and lots and lots of sex, setlroiulsh taken care of by a hot and horny Romanian plus I actually found her funny and charming.

That's the thing - I spend half my time calculating 'ways to save' in order to finance the hobby.  Including on dates.

[Home Alone]

Hi Max,  I can't answer for Home Alone -but great going ,  The thing to remember is from the girls perspective you aren't an age you're money in the bank to her .  Let's face it if she's  24  a fat ugly 40 year-old man isn't very different to a fat ugly 65-year-old .  To my way of  thinking  (for me at 61)  24 is too young,  my minimum age is 30 - ymmv.  Joe

As u'll see from my PM, Max, Joe & I seem to, erm, 'come at things'😉 from opposite ends of the spectrum!

For me, I need to feel some sort of a rapport with a SP, which I know I'd be highly unlikely to have with a lass young enough to  be my grand-daughter. For that reason, I rarely book a session with a SP who (says she😉😆) is younger than 40.