Losing The Fun

[WelshClipper]

I have to say that I can appreciate all sides of this argument. There is nothing worse than having a run of poor punts, you wonder is it me or is it them.

On the one hand you get the wg who gives a true GFE or PSE and you feel like pump and dump. On the other hand you see a wg who is just in it for the sex, no chat, no cuddle, just fuck and get out and you want the full GFE.

The trick is finding the GFE/PSE when you want this or the pump and dump when you want that. Great when it works, horrible when it doesn't...

.... funny old game.   Anth : take a break. 

[Marmalade]

I do try to kerp a perspective though. If I have the same cereal for ages it gets boring but I still enjoy it. Hyped up prices and a culture of fluffydom has turned punting into something it's not (or rarely is). Fulfilling sexual needs is a basic thing, like shitting and eating. It's a reason I get pissed off at whiteknights -- it's like going into ecstacies over a delivery person!

She is NOT special. She is a whore, and hopefully a decent one at that. In the olden days she would be sent round to the back door together with the milk delivery. This is not denigrating women: merely putting the service that a prostitute provides into place. It's not even something to shout about: she either does a good job or she doesn't. She should be a MINOR part of any punter's day, NOT the gold-pkated princess that her hype and price tag tries to suggest.

[Sonny Crockett]

I have to say that I can appreciate all sides of this argument. There is nothing worse than having a run of poor punts, you wonder is it me or is it them.

On the one hand you get the wg who gives a true GFE or PSE and you feel like pump and dump. On the other hand you see a wg who is just in it for the sex, no chat, no cuddle, just fuck and get out and you want the full GFE.

The trick is finding the GFE/PSE when you want this or the pump and dump when you want that. Great when it works, horrible when it doesn't...

.... funny old game.   Anth : take a break. 

+1,000,000,000

Agree with everything that's said.

[Sonny Crockett]

I do try to kerp a perspective though. If I have the same cereal for ages it gets boring but I still enjoy it. Hyped up prices and a culture of fluffydom has turned punting into something it's not (or rarely is). Fulfilling sexual needs is a basic thing, like shitting and eating. It's a reason I get pissed off at whiteknights -- it's like going into ecstacies over a delivery person!

She is NOT special. She is a whore, and hopefully a decent one at that. In the olden days she would be sent round to the back door together with the milk delivery. This is not denigrating women: merely putting the service that a prostitute provides into place. It's not even something to shout about: she either does a good job or she doesn't. She should be a MINOR part of any punter's day, NOT the gold-pkated princess that her hype and price tag tries to suggest.

I can see where you are coming from.

[mikexxlong]

I do try to kerp a perspective though. If I have the same cereal for ages it gets boring but I still enjoy it. Hyped up prices and a culture of fluffydom has turned punting into something it's not (or rarely is). Fulfilling sexual needs is a basic thing, like shitting and eating. It's a reason I get pissed off at whiteknights -- it's like going into ecstacies over a delivery person!

She is NOT special. She is a whore, and hopefully a decent one at that. In the olden days she would be sent round to the back door together with the milk delivery. This is not denigrating women: merely putting the service that a prostitute provides into place. It's not even something to shout about: she either does a good job or she doesn't. She should be a MINOR part of any punter's day, NOT the gold-pkated princess that her hype and price tag tries to suggest.

 

[Sonny Crockett]

Punting is only a fun hobby, a great hobby, if it is a simple hobby!!

[Marmalade]

Punting is only a fun hobby, a great hobby, if it is a simple hobby!!

This is also true usually for me. I make done time, arrive, and she is delayed and it's s bit of a turn off. Yet sometimes there's also the fun of the chase. I think it's being pissed about that can be a downer. Again speaking from whooring in RLDs or cheap third world shag shops, if she's crap I maybe don't even bother spunking her, just move on to the next one until there's a boat rocker, maybe a beer inbetween...

Not much chance of doing that here even if you can afford it. One or two saunas allow a second dip; others don't.

[Bangers and Gash]

There is nothing worse than having a run of poor punts, you wonder is it me or is it them.

I never wonder that, as I always know it's their fault. 

[OakTree]

Every now and then the reality does hit. I've walked back to the car and even when it's been a great shag, the thought comes to me, I've just paid an arm and a leg for an hour of fucking.
That was something I used to do for nothing. What a fucking waste.

There's so much more I could of done with all the money over the years and if I really dwelt upon it I'd be very disappointed with myself. I've just accepted this is what I do and to be fair there are times I'm walking on cloud nine a day or so after a good meet. I've never got that bad though that I want to knock it on the head. It's just not an ideal way of living out sexual fantasies.

[Nagilum]

Anth - something more extreme.  how about going abroad and punting in a country where its legalised and regulated.  You then get a selection of Brothels and clubs to attend.  Nothing makes you feel more awesome than a bar where you seemingly are able to pull any girl.  Of course they are all WG's but you totally get immersed.   I went to one in Cancun and it was like being back in te 80's, spanking bottoms as they walked past, with the girls giving a nod of approval... ah misogyny 

Maybe something like that to rekindle your interest?

[Marmalade]

Every now and then the reality does hit. I've walked back to the car and even when it's been a great shag, the thought comes to me, I've just paid an arm and a leg for an hour of fucking.
That was something I used to do for nothing. What a fucking waste.

I find that mostly, ironically perhaps, after a really excellent gfe. You know that if you were dating someone and you fucked twice a day and she asked you for 80 quid you'd find it pretty unattractive. Have to remember it's not so much fucking whooring. 

Anth - something more extreme.  how about going abroad and punting in a country where its legalised and regulated.  You then get a selection of Brothels and clubs to attend.  Nothing makes you feel more awesome than a bar where you seemingly are able to pull any girl.  Of course they are all WG's but you totally get immersed.   I went to one in Cancun and it was like being back in te 80's, spanking bottoms as they walked past, with the girls giving a nod of approval... ah misogyny 

Maybe something like that to rekindle your interest?

Absolutely agree. Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, they're totally different worlds. I think it is amazing they exist on the same planet.

So many different scenes to explore. (Excuse the dumb Americans in some of these they are the only ones dumb enough to take videos.)

These three girls are doing a bunda (ass) dance class (learning to move their ass). They are beginners. The better ones can shake their asses faster than the eye can see, literally.
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Here's inside a top nightclub-whorehouse
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It has a dance area, three bars, a restaurant, sauna and steamroom, male relaxation area, when you want a girl you choose the degree of luxury room you want and for how long

For the slightly nervous, this is one of several smooth package hotels. Luxury apartments. The owner does a morning tour of the best brothels to show you round; any girls lounging by the pool will be available should you ask, and in the evening al the girls that arrive at the hotel nightclub are pre-screened for attitude, sex ability and so on
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[Marmalade]

Here's another place that's quite unique (not my taste but I think  it is still probably unique -- this pool party is at one of many hotels clustered in an entire village so you can walk a long way in every direction, in fact live for a week or two, and see nothing but pussy...)
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[Nagilum]

Nice one Marmalade I have noted those.  I am trying to decided were to holiday and these help.

[Marmalade]

I was trying to find one of a top Buenos Aires place as well -- some of the most sophisticated (yet mostly well-priced) brothels in the world. Sort of place where the receptionist offers you a real leather reclining armchair and makes you a complimentary cocktail or 12yr old malt from the bar. BsAs also has a nice selection of incredibly cheap semi-pro trash places too -- girls that decide to whore for the weekend before going shopping, get someone to hand out leaflets in the street and bang away happily for a few hours. No vids tho.

[Nagilum]

For the slightly nervous, this is one of several smooth package hotels. Luxury apartments. The owner does a morning tour of the best brothels to show you round; any girls lounging by the pool will be available should you ask, and in the evening al the girls that arrive at the hotel nightclub are pre-screened for attitude, sex ability and so on
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Reminds me of the Barber room in Cancun which is next door to Coco Bongo, very mellow and the girls are smoking.  I can't think of a better place to go and we often do this hobby to cut out the messing about.  This allows us to get to the point when going to a club.  Why go to a club and risk not pulling when this is a sure thing.

South America it is!

[bristolqwerty]

But another part of me just thinks I may just be losing the fun overall. And hence why I started the topic. Does this happen to other punters

I retired in Jan but was tempted by a b/day punt which I'm glad never happened, is this fate? I have to agree that the fun had worn off, its became more exciting pre punt, researching/contacting/arriving/meeting than during now for me, also the euphoria had worn off on my way back to the car.  I mostly saw Asian escorts since I had a skorean gf whilst at uni, from the tiny to the more mature, the whole range and a few other exotic ladies too and a few 18/19 yrs of late.  Now my personal circumstances have changed so I couldn't start again. Its wasn't the money as I'm fortunate that I could afford 1 or 2 a month but that it wore off quickly whereas +£3000 per year would buy my parents a lovely holiday or help them buy a new car and that feeling would last much longer.  I'm glad I dipped my toes in though as I genuinely find people fascinating and one Asian, one uni teen, one EE escort and two local ladies in Plymouth were wonderfully charming company to spend time with, albeit paid time.   

[vinnyadms]

I started punting 18 years or so ago, aged 30, started with some Manchester brothels just excited at no strings sex with some fit girls, moved on to the London scene and some regulars in the NW, moved onto threesomes, parties etc,

I realised it is a shallow drug when I started having an affair with a mistress four years ago who is passionate and giving and the sex is ten times better than the very best paid sex. Just to keep checking I had three punts last year, two were very good at the time, one was mechanical. Even the two good ones on reflection a few hours later were shit compared to a couple of hours in bed with the mistress.

[Sir Lancealot]

Reading all these posts of disillusioned punters cutting back or stopping their punting there's soon going to be a few out of work prossies. May be their rates will have to come down, well one can dream...

[dirkdiggler583]

I know how you feel and been through it a few times.
You drop £100-£200 quid, it was alright but nothing special, won't even go in the old wank bank and you think I could have stayed at home, had a wank and bought something or put it towards a holiday etc.

Yet, there are three punts I have had (one last year, others years ago) that were soooooo good that after a 6-8 week break they will pop in my head and I think... I wonder if I see XYZ that could be the next holy grail !

It is an addiction, a quest for that perfect moment - kinda like surfing, you keep riding the waves just to relive the rush of that 'perfect wave' you had last year.

[WelshClipper]

It is an addiction, a quest for that perfect moment - kinda like surfing, you keep riding the waves just to relive the rush of that 'perfect wave' you had last year.

This is very true. In addition you may have have changed in your own tastes. I certainly have over 2 years. The wgs I saw in 2014 would now be a bit of a yawn.

The other thing is your own body changing, the first girl I saw, I exploded with OW in a minute or 2. Now OWO I last a lot longer before I pop.

[OakTree]

Looking for the holy grail in punting is for me a negative driving force. I've found that all I do is endlessly look through the Internet crossing off who won't fit the bill and in the end no one does. Many time I've had opportunity and wasted it by not finding someone suitable. Of course I've saved my self the money but I've wasted so much time and effort in a fruitless task.

I think when I'm in this pointless zone the truth of the matter is I don't really need to punt and am just doing it out of habit. Having a wank has been the most cost effective and money saving exercise I've ever found.

I don't believe it serves any benifit looking for the ultimate fuck in punting. Paying for it is not the place to be looking for the best fuck ever. Seeing a prostitute should be regarded as light relief in my opinion.

[DickDiver]

Looking for the holy grail in punting is for me a negative driving force. I've found that all I do is endlessly look through the Internet crossing off who won't fit the bill and in the end no one does.

What has made it even more frustrating is the Romanian tidal wave.  I find the holy grail profiles regularly and then scroll down and find it's a Romanian. Nothing like that to burst a fucking bubble.

[Diehard]

In the last year to eighteen months A/W has gone downhill in my observations, its now like wading knee high in shit to find a gem. Fortunately UKP is here for punters aware of it to help locate good WGs and avoid bad ones.

This is spot on and I've now given up searching for girls on aw and just rely on recommendations from other punting friends.

Too many foreigners on aw which pushed out most of the quality English girls and as you say what is left is spending days trying to find the hidden gem. They do exist but it is far too time consuming.

Most of the English girls that are left are either old and fat, young chavs who will try to out punters, bait and switchers or out and out scammers, or skanks.

[Diehard]

What has made it even more frustrating is the Romanian tidal wave.  I find the holy grail profiles regularly and then scroll down and find it's a Romanian. Nothing like that to burst a fucking bubble.

You see I now scroll immediately to nationality without reading anything else, if I see the word Romanian I scroll to next advert.

The only time I don't even need to scroll down is when I see 'hello gentlemans' .......

[Mr Kent (Not AW)]

Yes, like any hobby, punting does get tedious if we go through the same motions...........I take time out, not punted this year, last punt 28th December, no urge to punt in the forseeable either, but I will punt again.

This forum helps me take time out, I know I'm not missing much and I like to read a negative review each day to remind myself of the crap we have to deal with.

If like me you have been punting for decades, you may want to think outside the box, look for a different thrill occasionaly. In another thread I offered a Model a load of money to shag her, she refused but eventually a deal was done, took a while but the chase was half the fun!   

[threechilliman]

Yes, like any hobby, punting does get tedious if we go through the same motions...........I take time out, not punted this year, last punt 28th December, no urge to punt in the forseeable either, but I will punt again.

This forum helps me take time out, I know I'm not missing much and I like to read a negative review each day to remind myself of the crap we have to deal with.

If like me you have been punting for decades, you may want to think outside the box, look for a different thrill occasionaly. In another thread I offered a Model a load of money to shag her, she refused but eventually a deal was done, took a while but the chase was half the fun!   

Someone once said to me that he wasn't interested in punting because there was no 'chase'. I know now exactly what he meant.

tcm

[willmo1]

I do the bulk of my whoring in Thailand and make two 4 week trips a year. I do do other things out there but the girls are so willing and friendly that coming back here and shelling out a wad for some disinterested lump is almost painful. My plan is to spend my winters over there and try to hold things in when in the UK. Where I am there is virtually sod all to punt with and while they arent bad girls they just dont do anything physically for me anymore. Not to mention the crazy cost, although I just did  .

Lucky that the little tanned beauties are my thing so its really a no brainer.

[Diehard]

I started punting 18 years or so ago, aged 30, started with some Manchester brothels just excited at no strings sex with some fit girls, moved on to the London scene and some regulars in the NW, moved onto threesomes, parties etc,

I realised it is a shallow drug when I started having an affair with a mistress four years ago who is passionate and giving and the sex is ten times better than the very best paid sex. Just to keep checking I had three punts last year, two were very good at the time, one was mechanical. Even the two good ones on reflection a few hours later were shit compared to a couple of hours in bed with the mistress.

Totally different though. No matter how good the sex is with a mistress, or how gorgeous she may be, she is but one woman. Unless you are a punter who sticks to the same hooker, you cannot compare a mistress with punting as punting is about variety, notching up the bedpost count to numbers most men dream about.

When I die I don't want any regrets thinking what if....I want to have fucked as many women as I can. I assume most punters feel the same way. Having a mistress is useful for those times you have a shit punt, at least you have a fall back guaranteed cum dump later on, so it's like having best of both worlds.

[Diehard]

Yes, like any hobby, punting does get tedious if we go through the same motions...........I take time out, not punted this year, last punt 28th December, no urge to punt in the forseeable either, but I will punt again.

This forum helps me take time out, I know I'm not missing much and I like to read a negative review each day to remind myself of the crap we have to deal with.

If like me you have been punting for decades, you may want to think outside the box, look for a different thrill occasionaly. In another thread I offered a Model a load of money to shag her, she refused but eventually a deal was done, took a while but the chase was half the fun!   

Essentially the only way we get to fuck women is by offering loads of money. Most women judge a guy off his car, that is a lot of money, most women expect to be showered with gifts and taken nice places, it all costs money.

I agree with you about seeking different challenges but ultimately there is one common denominator ...to fuck good looking women costs money.

[anchorage]

Recognising that I no longer enjoyed it, but I couldn't do a damned thing to stop it made me face up to the fact that I had an addiction.

Went through all of the denial and pretence but, the fact was, I couldn't stop.

[vinnyadms]

Totally different though. No matter how good the sex is with a mistress, or how gorgeous she may be, she is but one woman. Unless you are a punter who sticks to the same hooker, you cannot compare a mistress with punting as punting is about variety, notching up the bedpost count to numbers most men dream about.

When I die I don't want any regrets thinking what if....I want to have fucked as many women as I can. I assume most punters feel the same way. Having a mistress is useful for those times you have a shit punt, at least you have a fall back guaranteed cum dump later on, so it's like having best of both worlds.

Ok I'll spell it out, as per the original post, the reason it has lost the fun for me is that having fucked well over 100 escorts in the past, even the very best fucks with them do not match the sex with my mistress. So I've been there, done it and got the T shirt escort wise, now I'm going to just enjoy the sex for as long as the relationship lasts.... and if someone comes along that I just have to fuck, then I'll do it and probably regret it.

[Midlane]

I tend to book in advance so it goes a bit like this:

Wave of enthusiasm, check the hotlist, pick one, open comms, get it booked in, a bit of a high.

Then, a slump and feeling of apathy, and it feels like a forthcoming chore.

And then, the morning of the punt, another high, excitement going to the location.

The punt itself, well they vary. Some high, some low, many in the middle.

Then a period of apathy again, other interests, not bothered. Until, the wave of enthusiasm hits again.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

[bristolqwerty]

+1 then for me it was time to get the hell out 

[chriss1985]

Still bitter about Vicky eh Anth?

[Hydrant]

I've mostly lost the fun too and I think it's more about me than the girls. I started seeing street whores in 1983 at the age of 27 and I'm nearly 60 now. My income has halved lately and I really couldn't afford punting in the first place, so I've been trying to put myself off every time I get the urge, not always successfully.

Maybe some might take issue with this assertion, but I've come to recognise constant punting as an addiction just like cigs, booze or drugs. I'm reading a novel at the moment where the main character is a junkie who is always tells himself that he's going to give up the smack, but needs one last hit to give him the strength to achieve it. That's exactly like me and giving up punting. One last brilliant fuck and I'll bow out with a smile on face. Hah.

It's not like I have the excuse of an almost sexless marriage any more. That's long gone and my GF is a lovely, clever yet unsuspecting woman who loves sex with me so much that I get surprise BJs and wanks on trains, buses and parks whenever there's a chance.

Anyway, I think I've come up with a tactic that just might work. I've always hated condoms but lately every punt has taken a downward turn as soon as the rubber goes on. I can take as much Kamagra as I like with the hottest, kinkiest slut in the world but once I'm covered up my hard-on will wilt to some extent. So when I see that a well-reviewed girl is available and I have an opportunity to get away I just think of the bastard condom and the urge fades away. Magic Bianca in the East End lost out on my business today by that very means.

Maybe I'll succumb again at some point but I really would like to pack it in permanently and be happy with what I've got.

[Sonny Crockett]

I think us punters all go through phases where we feel enthusiastic about this hobby and as a result have a run of great punts, and then soon enough hit upon a bad spell of punts which erode enthusiasm. I've been through a few of those phases in the 7 years I've been punting. Easily organised punts which turn out into great meets make this a fun hobby. Poor punts and difficulty in organising meets (as well as meeting certain roadblocks, i.e. requirement for feedback), takes away the fun elements and turns punting into a frustrating process.

[coolguy1990]

The first 30 years of punting are the worst.

[bristolqwerty]

The first 30 years of punting are the worst.

[coolguy1990]

Actually, once you realise that fantasies can't actually be bought in the same way that you might buy something out of a catalogue, things get easier.

Just remember what Slavoj Zizek, the EE philosopher and Freudian analyst said on the subject, how women, by the nature of our need for fantasy become out of necessity, merely mastabatory props.

[bristolqwerty]

Maybe I'll succumb again at some point but I really would like to pack it in permanently and be happy with what I've got.

I've packed it in at 28, was an easy choice for me as I've started seeing my gf again. I now treat my parents and friends instead with a years savings. Don't think I had the passion for it others on here have.  Have seen lots of cute Asian ladies though so glad I dipped my toe in, so to speak.  Good luck if you choose to quit as I understand how easy it can be to start again.   

[Marmalade]

I've packed it in at 28, was an easy choice for me as I've started seeing my gf again. I now treat my parents and friends instead with a years savings. Don't think I had the passion for it others on here have.  Have seen lots of cute Asian ladies though so glad I dipped my toe in, so to speak.  Good luck if you choose to quit as I understand how easy it can be to start again.   

So why the fuck are you still reading and posting?? Better devote your attention to your gf (not to mention personal security).

I suspect you want to feel holier-than-thou for a bit but still keep future options open. 

Send your girlfriend a kiss from the UKP punters. You might not want to share, but she might once your air of sanctity evaporates.   

[bristolqwerty]

I think your understanding of my post has been, shall we say "misinterpreted".... I'm leave it up to Hydrant to appreciate my sympathy and comments.   You must have read this out of context 

[Marmalade]

I think your understanding of my post has been, shall we say "misinterpreted".... I'm leave it up to Hydrant to appreciate my sympathy and comments.   You must have read this out of context 

Please explain. In what way? You got out or didn't. Or you 'got out for a bit'?

[bristolqwerty]

Maybe I'll succumb again at some point but I really would like to pack it in permanently and be happy with what I've got.

I was referring to his comment.  The clue was the quotation. It is hard stopping, I know, I've been struggling myself.   I was feeling unfulfilled whilst punting (even the good ones  ) so I decided to be also happy with what I've got.  How is that being in any way holier-than-thou? I was trying to be polite to your earlier post as I treat fellow punters with he utmost respect. You've either misunderstood or made one the stupidest comments I've seen on here, but i'm ready to forgive and clearly am not here to judge.   

[Marmalade]

I was referring to his comment.

Totally unclear.

[daveev]

I don't thing the quality has gone, i think we change, i used to look for the pretty sexy looking girl, but after 7 years i want a sub size 6 to 8 sort of chav looking who likes pse, so finding it hard to find a new girl, we just get bored with the normal stuff im sure.

[bristolqwerty]

agreed 

[Marmalade]

I don't thing the quality has gone, i think we change, i used to look for the pretty sexy looking girl, but after 7 years i want a sub size 6 to 8 sort of chav looking who likes pse, so finding it hard to find a new girl, we just get bored with the normal stuff im sure.

Can see what you mean but I think it is easy to treat the whole thing with over-seriousness, a sort of slight obsessiveness. They're only prostitutes. We don't walk into a local spit-n-sawdust boozer and get upset at the poor selection of grand cru champagnes. Not an exact image but you get what I mean perhaps.

[bristolqwerty]

The early days were good.     Nothing really substantial to judge one escort against another.  I  saw an eclectic mix from my first Thai lady, then a mature, then a  leggy blonde, then a submissive, then a dom, there was no regular go to escort to become fixated by.  As you rightly say it is simple.  However, like all things in life it can be made over complicated and therefore less fun.     I had a bloody enjoyable time as I wouldn't normally get to f**k the wide range of ladies in my normal life.  I however still like contributing, especially recommending escorts that I have visited  or  and this forum can be fun.

[Marmalade]

Again, repeating my suggestion, I do think travel and gradually and safely expanding one's boundaries can help. I was recently abroad and the classy and mid-range option were good but a bit same-y. I then went (daytime first) to a trash land area. The sort of street where everyone says "don't go there" even though they've never been. Next evening had a recce, sussing out some of the main con-merchant tactics and checking out the trashland women. Young spinner who'd been doing a stage dance put her skirt and top back on, no knickers, came over oozing sex at me from under her badly-applied poundland-level makeup, proud as fuck, danced all over me, five quid in the back room, full on.

That was third world, but I've had similar wild sex in American badlands. Don't get drunk, don't let people buy you drinks, don't take up dodgy 'new best friend' offers from ugly meatpacks, watch to see how they spot marks and earn some streetcred by not falling for a roll or two, then stay quiet, background, don't upstage the bad guys on their own territory, then enjoy the cheap-as-shit full-on attention from the best looking girls at local rates.