When exactly does punt begin and end? (How to avoid short-timing & arguments)

[JayEZ2K]

After some previous issues with WGs trying to end the sessions around 25 minutes on a 30 min sessions, I wanted to get a general consensus on time frames.

When does the punt begin?
1) When you arrive?
2) After handing over the cash?
3) After she returns from stashing the cash?


When does a punt end? For example, with a 30 minute punt are you supposed to...
1) Be out the door at exactly 30 minutes? (Meaning that the service ends 3-5 minutes early)
2) End the sex/service at exactly 30 minutes, followed by 2 minutes to get dressed and then be out the door (around 32 minutes)?

What's your opinion on this, and why? And does it vary for a 15, 30, or 60 minute booking?

[peter purves]

After some previous issues with WGs trying to end the sessions around 25 minutes on a 30 min sessions, I wanted to get a general consensus on time frames.

When does the punt begin?
1) When you arrive?
2) After handing over the cash?
3) After she returns from stashing the cash?


When does a punt end? For example, with a 30 minute punt are you supposed to...
1) Be out the door at exactly 30 minutes? (Meaning that the service ends 3-5 minutes early)
2) End the sex/service at exactly 30 minutes, followed by 2 minutes to get dressed and then be out the door (around 32 minutes)?

What's your opinion on this, and why? And does it vary for a 15, 30, or 60 minute booking?

For me the above - even though I am a slow-dresser 

[Liverpool]

For me the above - even though I am a slow-dresser 

+1.

I also check any clocks in the room to ensure they are not running fast and alter them to the correct time.

[Arfa2stroke]

Think for me it's same,
Clock starts as soon as money is exchanged ,
Time to go when agreed time is up + dressing time of 2 mins

[Shybloke250]

I also check any clocks in the room to ensure they are not running fast and alter them to the correct time.

Yep. I remember when I was younger and just started punting, I was caught out once. I was pumping away on a WG and looked over at her clock and thought I was out of time so finished quickly and left. When I got back to the car I saw the real time, it turned out I'd left early because her clock was a good ten minutes fast.

I can assure you that I never fell for that trick again.

[Drayki]

In my opinion you pay for 30 mins or hour, you should get exactly that, I know some whores try the usual trick of trying to shorten the booking, the usual shite that spews from their gobs, oh would you like a drink? no fuck off. I'm here to fuck you not to sit and drink tea or coffee 

[george r]

not arsed if its a few minutes short if I enjoyed it  its when you get a shit punt and short on time are the worst 

[Kingy28]

I keep a watch in the glovebox of my car. I only wear it when punting. I sometimes make a real show of looking at my watch & stating the time when i arrive, just to avoid any confusion!

[Rock123]

For me it starts when you arrive. If you are booking a 30 minute slot for example 2pm to 2.30pm then it begins at 2pm no matter if cash is exchanged at 2.05pm or 2.10pm. Which is why I always get the money out of the way the minute I arrive.

[jordan452]

As soon as they play some ‘music on their phone’ before you start, usually their setting their timer.

[myothernameis]

For me it starts when you arrive. If you are booking a 30 minute slot for example 2pm to 2.30pm then it begins at 2pm no matter if cash is exchanged at 2.05pm or 2.10pm. Which is why I always get the money out of the way the minute I arrive.

For me a 30 min or  1hr booking at 3pm, I try to arrive at 2.55 and enter her flat, get the  money out the way, and let the fun begin for 3pm, and finish at 4 pm, on the odd occasion have gone over my time, as I was enjoying my self, toy in her pussy, and she asked me to finish up

Now I would expect the next guy to arrive at 4.30 pm, giving the escort 30 min's to freshen up, and something to eat

[Malvolio]

Bear in mind you've booked a timeslot, so it's reasonable to say the punt starts at the time you've booked.  I suggest you get to the general area with time to spare, then five minutes beforehand contact her to say you've arrived, and can you come and see her now?

Your punt then ends at the end of your timeslot - but this should not include a quick shower and getting dressed.

[WHG]

Bear in mind you've booked a timeslot, so it's reasonable to say the punt starts at the time you've booked.  I suggest you get to the general area with time to spare, then five minutes beforehand contact her to say you've arrived, and can you come and see her now?

Your punt then ends at the end of your timeslot - but this should not include a quick shower and getting dressed.

+1 on this.
Different wgs have different rules. Some start the clock the moment you walk in and only grab the cash later on in the punt. Some start it as soon as I’ve stepped out of the shower.
Also, unless it’s a shit punt, I tend to wait for the wg to tell me to wrap it up/we’ve gone over time. If I’m having a great time, I don’t want it to end. If she says let’s wrap it up and if she’s right, there’s no arguments from me. If she tries to call it early, I politely remind her we still have time left.
On a shit punt though, I can’t get into the shower quick enough. On a recent shit punt, I may have spent more time in the shower than actually trying some of her ‘services’.

[peter purves]

Bear in mind you've booked a timeslot, so it's reasonable to say the punt starts at the time you've booked.  I suggest you get to the general area with time to spare, then five minutes beforehand contact her to say you've arrived, and can you come and see her now?

Your punt then ends at the end of your timeslot - but this should not include a quick shower and getting dressed.

Perhaps I have misunderstood this 

From my experience, generally speaking, turning up 5 mins early is not always welcomed.

Let say you have an hour appointment starting at 8.30-9.30pm and then you arrive 8.25 pm...Will the session still not finish at 8.25 pm, all things being equal of course?

[iamjason]

The moment you enter the premises.

[nigel4498]

The moment you enter the premises.

Do you mean room and not premises?
The punt might be in a hotel or a high rise apartment block, in which case you enter the premises.
It could take you a few minutes to find the right room or flat.

For me it's starts when I enter the room and hand over the cash.
I alaways make a point of leaving on time.

[myothernameis]

Perhaps I have misunderstood this 

From my experience, generally speaking, turning up 5 mins early is not always welcomed.

Let say you have an hour appointment starting at 8.30-9.30pm and then you arrive 8.25 pm...Will the session still not finish at 8.25 pm, all things being equal of course?

I think we should be asking, when will the next punter arrive, and would say most escorts, have a 30 min window for this

[JayEZ2K]

Ok, here are my own answers, followed by a tally up to this point...

When does the punt begin?
1) When you arrive?
2) After handing over the cash?
3) After she returns from stashing the cash?
I think the punt should start when she returns from stashing the cash. The reason is because there is too much opportunity for her to waste time up until that point. For example, coming back 5 minutes later or longer, which sometimes happens. This is for unbooked appointments. This rule could reasonably apply to booked appointments if she keeps a 30 minute buffer between punters, however, most punters seem to use the exact booking time if one exists. 

When does the punt ends?
I'm taking advice from this thread on this one...

[lovemachine]

What about the original question "How to avoid short-timing & arguments". If you are happy with what ever different way your punt starts and finishes then thats fine. But what if you are short timed. The only way I have tried to avoid it is by setting the timer on my phone,but this has not always been met with their approval and when it has been used to verify the meeting is not over they reluctantly carry on only half arsed and the mood has by now been killed.

[HarryZZ]

Nobody wants to get ripped off but if we were getting paid by the hour we wouldn't be happy if we were being pushed over the 60 minutes for the same money, I don't really have any objection to the little tricks they employ, an alarm on the phone disguised as a text message, the playlist that finishes on the hour or what ever other  device they use and I've seldom being felt like I was rushed out, one time in Newcastle and a couple of last minute, regrettable Roms.

I often feel like there's a general consensus amongst punters that WGs are doing all they can to rip us off but I rarely find it's the case, I'm regularly asked if I might visit again, they'd be wasting their breath if we all thought we'd been shanked.

[JayEZ2K]

Thanks for all the responses. I should have specified booked time slots vs non-booked (walk-ins) so the results are not perfect, but still helpful. The tallies thus far:

When does a punt begin?
For a specified time slot booking, most punters feel the time begins when you arrive/at the specified start time. +6
Nearly as many people feel the punt starts after she after she returns from stashing the cash, although its not clear if this is for unbooked sessions only. + 5

When does a punt end?
I think a couple people feel that punters should be out the door by the end of their time slot. +2
Most people feel that the the sex/service should end at the end of the time slot, followed by getting dressed quickly and leaving within a couple minutes. +7


In the case that you are short-timed by the WG, the advice follows:
1) Don't make a big deal about it if you're shorted a few minutes
2) If they try to end the session too early, you can point it out. I've found that some WGs will respond to this by giving good service until the complete time is up. However, gauge their response... if they're negative or reluctant you will be better off compromising otherwise the punt will go downhill with poor service at the end anyways.
3) If in the end you're shorted on time, or rushed, simply add that to your review later as a negative mark for the WG.

not arsed if its a few minutes short if I enjoyed it 

...what if you are short timed. [If I stop them from short-timing me] they reluctantly carry on only half arsed and the mood has by now been killed.

Nobody wants to get ripped off but if we were getting paid by the hour we wouldn't be happy if we were being pushed over the 60 minutes for the same money, I don't really have any objection to the little tricks they employ, an alarm on the phone disguised as a text message, the playlist that finishes on the hour or what ever other  device they use and I've seldom being felt like I was rushed out, one time in Newcastle and a couple of last minute, regrettable Roms.

I often feel like there's a general consensus amongst punters that WGs are doing all they can to rip us off but I rarely find it's the case, I'm regularly asked if I might visit again, they'd be wasting their breath if we all thought we'd been shanked.

[Health and Fitness]

Yep. I remember when I was younger and just started punting, I was caught out once. I was pumping away on a WG and looked over at her clock and thought I was out of time so finished quickly and left. When I got back to the car I saw the real time, it turned out I'd left early because her clock was a good ten minutes fast.

I can assure you that I never fell for that trick again.

I wear a cheap Casio watch during a booking so I know exactly how much time I have left. Be glad you were only caught out the once.

[socks]

I make a booking for a time I'm going to arrive and how long I want but very specifically do not mention when I'm leaving. As far as I'm concerned I'm paying for how long I want engaged in intimate interaction with the girl. If I go along with having a drink or whatever to start, then I accept that as part of the paid time. Prep and clearing up in my head is different and not part of the paid time. I acknowledge that different providers see things differently but the ones that give good service that lasts at least the time I've paid for, are the most vfm and thus the ones I rate highest and am most likely to consider for repeat business.

[shagmore]

It would be from the tie you walk through the door to the time you leave. For leaving, once you have shot your load, not much point in hanging around unless you on for a 2nd pop in an hour meet.

[stayer]

I usually have a quick shower, and I consider that to be reasonable and also the start of my punt (which normally last 1.5-2 hours). I put my watch on to keep track of time. The end time is on departure, although sometimes a WG is happy to have a bit of a post-punt chat.

What I hate is a WG who considers the punt to start on your arrival but doesn't tell you. However, a WG once told me that the start time is "when we get onto the bed", which is sensible.

[snipertongue]

I usually like to book a minimum of 2 hours (and I like late punts), so that I don't have to think about the time, with resting and chatting in between (usually 2 pops nowadays, the younger years of multi-popping have gone). Also, I enjoy foreplay more now that I've gone into the grey years, gives me more time to ramp up to the better bit of the punt. And for some reason, apparently some WGs even seem to like it. Very odd...
And, because 2 hours is plenty of time, I easily bring up the time I need to leave and actually ask them, is it time? Some say, yes, some say "we still have time for some more fun", etc..., never been booted or called to attention, especially in the latter years.

However, there's a downside to longer punts. If you are not enjoying it, it's a path to purgatory...

On a side note, I have had the luck of, in a couple of really late punts (midnight or later), the SPs asking me if I wanted to stay over some more time, off the clock, but I believe that was just because we may have accidentally clicked and, they were certainly completely independent (one on her own flat and the other in a hotel room) and had the next day off. But that was twice in a lifetime, don't believe will ever happen again, though I wish it would...

[Malvolio]

Perhaps I have misunderstood this 

From my experience, generally speaking, turning up 5 mins early is not always welcomed.

Let say you have an hour appointment starting at 8.30-9.30pm and then you arrive 8.25 pm...Will the session still not finish at 8.25 pm, all things being equal of course?

That's why I would contact the WG with a text to ask if we can start early, rather than just ring the doorbell.

In your example, if I'd arrived at 8.25, I would accept the punt ending at 9.25, as I've had my hour that I paid for.

[sean70]

For me it starts as soon a she opens the door. If you take a shower that is out of your punt time unless the WG says otherwise. I have heard and read on here some WGs taking ages to go stash the cash and if that is the case then it has to be challenged. It has not happened to me so far.

Like some have said a few WGs like 5-10 mins post punt chat but I take the view your time ends at the time you have booked which equates to you being dressed and heading out the door.